Rihaku
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I recall you've already written one! With the Staff of Mage...
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I recall you've already written one! With the Staff of Mage...
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[X] True Champions
Note that Aeria is getting her mahou shoujo powerup soon, which will probably synergize with boosting her Rank and stats. If we're lucky, we might end up with three Hunger tier combatants from this.
Note that Aeria is getting her mahou shoujo powerup soon, which will probably synergize with boosting her Rank and stats. If we're lucky, we might end up with three Hunger tier combatants from this.
OctarineShrike
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True Champions is at least conditionally good for SMRT.
We're intelligence 23 with a 1.6 multiplier. That's 36.8 Intelligence
True Champions gives us an additional 50% to intelligence in the presence of our party
Intelligence 23 with a 2.1 multiplier is 48.3 Intelligence when with the entire group, diminishing the intelligence multiplier by .1 for each party member not with us until we're back at 1.6 when we're alone.
(Edit: That 50% buff applies to wisdom too though, November Sky doesn't buff Wisdom).
November Sky for Comparison takes us to 27 with a 1.6 multiplier, that's 43.2 Intelligence Unconditional
Pfff, as if she would take advantage of this Rank. She would be higher Rank than Hunger once she gets her ??? box.
EDIT: I actually know which is the best option to synergize with her ??? box, but I am not allowed to say.
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[X] True Champions
Been hoping to get both of these EFBs for a really long time, here's hoping it works out this time. Making the others combat relevant to us, especially Gisena, is pretty great investment given how great her Nullity is and the possibility of a Grace Singularity, and the actual buffs to ourselves from it getting it aren't exactly insubstatial. Plus we benefit from a lot of normal picks and don't have to fight a 3 Pick without rerolls.
Edit: And dont forget those incredible rank gain boosts, which given that we're liable to start fighting Republican armanents is probably a amazing investment. It also helps us deal with Decimation and gives us 10! Accursed Favor. It's good to remember that just 1 is worth a Minor Remittance.
Been hoping to get both of these EFBs for a really long time, here's hoping it works out this time. Making the others combat relevant to us, especially Gisena, is pretty great investment given how great her Nullity is and the possibility of a Grace Singularity, and the actual buffs to ourselves from it getting it aren't exactly insubstatial. Plus we benefit from a lot of normal picks and don't have to fight a 3 Pick without rerolls.
Edit: And dont forget those incredible rank gain boosts, which given that we're liable to start fighting Republican armanents is probably a amazing investment. It also helps us deal with Decimation and gives us 10! Accursed Favor. It's good to remember that just 1 is worth a Minor Remittance.
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- Omniverse #1345
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- Mid-Atlantic
@Byzantine
I remember you knowing things pretty well, in the before time, before I lost track.
If I want to vote for smart, what should I vote for?
I remember you knowing things pretty well, in the before time, before I lost track.
If I want to vote for smart, what should I vote for?
Birdsie
Sharp Talons Cleave The Worthy
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[X] True Champions
Ring of Essence is funny. Hunger can get something that costs 1 Jade for the price of me writing for one day. I'll always be here to bring the Arete in.
As for the fourth rule, when the original Games in Silver happened, a group of entities (because that was before the big bang; there wasn't a universe yet, everything was more conceptual than physical,) created the System and used it to win, and proud of themselves for breaking one of Arcadia's rules, as a part of their victory prizes they decided to engrave themselves into the fabric of reality (which is why humanity is so pervasively common in all universes,) and added in a new rule: humanity rules.
Ring of Essence is funny. Hunger can get something that costs 1 Jade for the price of me writing for one day. I'll always be here to bring the Arete in.
Your portrayal of Arcadia is scarily accurate. I won't say it's spot-on, but I could see this playing out. The level of self-deprecating humor and concealed depressive undertones match.
As for the fourth rule, when the original Games in Silver happened, a group of entities (because that was before the big bang; there wasn't a universe yet, everything was more conceptual than physical,) created the System and used it to win, and proud of themselves for breaking one of Arcadia's rules, as a part of their victory prizes they decided to engrave themselves into the fabric of reality (which is why humanity is so pervasively common in all universes,) and added in a new rule: humanity rules.
[X] Majesty
Ring of Essence is great but Ruling Ring still seems more versatile and I'd rather hold out hope for the Ringwar because I actually want to participate in that plotline. Also, not having the compounding effect of Emperor Red makes me a little leery of spending so much on it, particularly as it locks us out of Fisher King which we've already invested in.
Bloodwraith 2.0 is soooooo damn tempting though. Finally, Second Stage might be worthy of the name! If we had gotten First Flare, maybe Ring of Essence might be more appealing since I figure the millenia of experience in operating a Ring of Power would probably factor into mastering Essence more quickly, but alas.
Majesty is great value - allows us to cap off Fisher King and push that Arete sink out of our mind, while Sword in the Stone guarantees most of the combat power we need in a serious encounter and should hopefully suffice for immediate Rank needs, given it doubles OaF's Rank and ISH boosts. That it handily resolves any moral quandries over Decimation procs is even better, particularly given it enhances our empire-building abilities which are probably necessary in the long-run since we lack Stranglethorn.
But man, oh man, is Exalted Battle Array so, soooooooo cool! And interesting to boot, unlocking even more Praxis runes and showing us the sheer potential of the Imperial Praxis! Look at that, one technique that gives us even more power than SiTS in a truly desperate fight, while also letting us get more Armaments?
Why have one Armament that's equal to 4 peer-level Armaments when you can just suborn 4 Armaments?! How awesome.
It'd definitely be interesting to go on a trip to find and conquer the Aporcryphal Armament. And Attramemnar is waiting for us after all... but we don't even know if the Apocryphal Aramament exists and who knows what the Indenture Armament even is...
I'd definitely pick up Exalted Battle Array if people were interested but it does diverge from our current plans. That it incentivizes grabbing Refinement of Battle also kindles a hope in me that we will finally have another Praxis training session, but given how my faint hopes of having one in the Realm of Evening haven't quite panned out, I'm not sure.
Majesty builds on our existing methods and just solves most issues and plain offers more value now so I'll roll with that for the time being. Here's to hoping that Accursed Favor lives up to the hype! (which it obviously will)
Ring of Essence is great but Ruling Ring still seems more versatile and I'd rather hold out hope for the Ringwar because I actually want to participate in that plotline. Also, not having the compounding effect of Emperor Red makes me a little leery of spending so much on it, particularly as it locks us out of Fisher King which we've already invested in.
Bloodwraith 2.0 is soooooo damn tempting though. Finally, Second Stage might be worthy of the name! If we had gotten First Flare, maybe Ring of Essence might be more appealing since I figure the millenia of experience in operating a Ring of Power would probably factor into mastering Essence more quickly, but alas.
Majesty is great value - allows us to cap off Fisher King and push that Arete sink out of our mind, while Sword in the Stone guarantees most of the combat power we need in a serious encounter and should hopefully suffice for immediate Rank needs, given it doubles OaF's Rank and ISH boosts. That it handily resolves any moral quandries over Decimation procs is even better, particularly given it enhances our empire-building abilities which are probably necessary in the long-run since we lack Stranglethorn.
But man, oh man, is Exalted Battle Array so, soooooooo cool! And interesting to boot, unlocking even more Praxis runes and showing us the sheer potential of the Imperial Praxis! Look at that, one technique that gives us even more power than SiTS in a truly desperate fight, while also letting us get more Armaments?
Why have one Armament that's equal to 4 peer-level Armaments when you can just suborn 4 Armaments?! How awesome.
It'd definitely be interesting to go on a trip to find and conquer the Aporcryphal Armament. And Attramemnar is waiting for us after all... but we don't even know if the Apocryphal Aramament exists and who knows what the Indenture Armament even is...
I'd definitely pick up Exalted Battle Array if people were interested but it does diverge from our current plans. That it incentivizes grabbing Refinement of Battle also kindles a hope in me that we will finally have another Praxis training session, but given how my faint hopes of having one in the Realm of Evening haven't quite panned out, I'm not sure.
Majesty builds on our existing methods and just solves most issues and plain offers more value now so I'll roll with that for the time being. Here's to hoping that Accursed Favor lives up to the hype! (which it obviously will)
Also, I want to say thank you to all miners who busted their ass to get us almost 20 Arete. And the result for good work is more work. Keep pumping Arete, daddy Hunger needs to buy everything
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I'm not entirely sure. In terms of obvious +'s it's clearly November Sky + Fisher King. But True Companions isn't a bad choice either.
Everything else is out of the running for smarts, though.
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- Pindorama
True Companions will give the greater boost to Int while we have all of our Companions, while November Sky gives the greater base boost and can be relied on even when Hunger is alone. Contrary to True Companions however, Sky doesn't boost our Wisdom at all.
Also wow, there is a Seraph's Favor Advancement!
This time, a Conjunctional One.
So... The Praxis comes from Odyssial making Sorcery not just available to anybody in the Exalted setting, but omniversally available? So that's what the Lathe of Heaven or Infinite Singularity Husk or some of Odyssial's ambitions in the Age of Dreams was? Like a super-duper ambitious Salinan Working?
I'm sorry, did I say "40+ arete-costing build votes"? I meant 50 Arete.
50 is the new 25.
This time, a Conjunctional One.
Huh. It's the Exalted sorcery spell Unity of the Closed Fist.
So... The Praxis comes from Odyssial making Sorcery not just available to anybody in the Exalted setting, but omniversally available? So that's what the Lathe of Heaven or Infinite Singularity Husk or some of Odyssial's ambitions in the Age of Dreams was? Like a super-duper ambitious Salinan Working?
He didn't just want to give Sorcery to everyone.
And, equally, he didn't want to give free (and immediate) access to Solar Circle Sorcery to everyone.
But he did want to make it possible for anyone to strive for and try to obtain. And he wanted it universally applicable/available. Not just in Creation, not just in the Wild, but on an ontologically width that stretched out into eternity.
Where others, like the Cauldronists, wanted to make another Creation ("With blackjack! And hookers!") better than the Primordials did... Odyssial wanted to make an existence, a reality, better than this one. He didn't just want to make a physical world more suitable for human life. He wanted a world -- in the sense of "existence" or "reality" -- more suitable for human life and goodness and justice and fairness.
Hence, the similarity to Sorcery. In the sense of how the Primordials came up with/used Sorcery as a sort of universal or at least shareable set of Charms between each other, and which they used in part to create Creation. Odyssial was inspired by Sorcery in how it was shareable between Primordials, and how they made something that was embedded (or that they embedded into) reality or the rules of reality.
And, equally, he didn't want to give free (and immediate) access to Solar Circle Sorcery to everyone.
But he did want to make it possible for anyone to strive for and try to obtain. And he wanted it universally applicable/available. Not just in Creation, not just in the Wild, but on an ontologically width that stretched out into eternity.
Where others, like the Cauldronists, wanted to make another Creation ("With blackjack! And hookers!") better than the Primordials did... Odyssial wanted to make an existence, a reality, better than this one. He didn't just want to make a physical world more suitable for human life. He wanted a world -- in the sense of "existence" or "reality" -- more suitable for human life and goodness and justice and fairness.
Hence, the similarity to Sorcery. In the sense of how the Primordials came up with/used Sorcery as a sort of universal or at least shareable set of Charms between each other, and which they used in part to create Creation. Odyssial was inspired by Sorcery in how it was shareable between Primordials, and how they made something that was embedded (or that they embedded into) reality or the rules of reality.
lol
I'm sorry, did I say "40+ arete-costing build votes"? I meant 50 Arete.
50 is the new 25.
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It's probably good to also point out that based on the wording of Wondrous Winterland, November Sky only gives us the bonus to mental stats while in the Realm of Evening itself.
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- Omniverse #1345
Fisher King does come with a base ++Wisdom though, so getting it alongside November Sky would improve it some.
So a lot of this depends on hiw we choose to operate.
Rihaku was asked and answered above - it boosts Hunger and Adorie at all times. Everyone else only gets the boost while present in the wonderland.
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- Pindorama
@Rihaku, we only have 2 of our 4 Defining advancements set. Doesn't that mean we'd be able to buy both Fisher King and Ring of Essence?
Adorie will dunk on Gisena with the extra +++++APP. Also don't forget that 20 APP unlocks the YA route
Rihaku
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No, your ability to buy one Defining Advancement piecemeal is from taking Trinity for Core Panoply. It's not inherent or repeatable.
Lealope
Not yet invincible
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Man, I desperately wish we could take this. It's so nice and so powerful.
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- Pindorama
So would the picks and the Arete we put on Fisher King be gone or would we just need to find another foe that qualified for the Advancement to buy the rest of it?
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- US
Hey @Rihaku, we have 4 DA slots and have 2 DAs (Uttermost and Inherit the World), so why do we need extra DA slots to get Fisher King after Ring of Essence? (Unless if you meant that the 4th slot is reserved for SJUC since that's the only slot-expander we know about. In which case, ignore this.)
Even after piecemeal spending is burnt for purchasing Ring of Essence, 3 picks of FK has been paid already so the 2 remaining required picks falls in the threshold for Always Forward, so I think it should work?
(I could be completely wrong right now, of course.)
EDIT: NVM, just noticed you already responded to this.
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Rihaku
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Actually, Gisena has the equivalent of 22 +s in that Attribute, with the potential for more from Graces! How overpowered.
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- Europe
[X] True Champions
Some kind of scaling for our companions is essential or they'll become completely useless, which this provides. Hungers Rank -1 means a specialized hard working companion can at least vaguely keepnup. So I basically have to vote for it.
I'll have to campaign hard for Retinue if there's ever an AST 2.
She seems to support at least the idea of a gentler word, given her description of the Eight Divisions, so maybe she'll get lucky and her life can trend positive in time.
Some kind of scaling for our companions is essential or they'll become completely useless, which this provides. Hungers Rank -1 means a specialized hard working companion can at least vaguely keepnup. So I basically have to vote for it.
I'll have to campaign hard for Retinue if there's ever an AST 2.
Ouch, I was sort of hoping I was just being dramatic, because writing her hammers my compassion buttons the entire time.
She seems to support at least the idea of a gentler word, given her description of the Eight Divisions, so maybe she'll get lucky and her life can trend positive in time.