A Simple Transaction I
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I mean, I don't know if you are forgetting about the part where the curses are a 1/3 power while we are there, but let me just remind you of it.
Yes, the clock is ticking down for the Hunger Sated, but it also mitigates it heavily whether the life draining aspect or the number of days left until we need to find a Huntress Moon target. Also, we could just leave our companions behind and Sate ourselves near the end of the 21 days so...
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DarkSideBard
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If we take Artemisinin, then each Hunger Sated will give two months+ of Decimator Mitigation. If Decimation is active inside the Realm of Evening, then that means we could generate new mitigation target at the start/middle/end of each monthly Pillars stay and it would cover until the next Pillars stay, when we would do it again. Presumably this will last a while, and we could theoretically extend it by picking the longer duration Hunger Sated to massively reduce the rate at which our ability to generate new mitigation targets with Pillars loses effectiveness.
Since Hunger is used to fighting with one eye, we should be able to get away with having Gisena craft a cool eyepatch. That way, we get an artifact, get to take two-eyed advancements, have foes underestimate us, get to pull some Shonen Shenanigans, and Micro doesn't have to draw Hunger without an eyepatch! Everyone leaves happy.
Except people who wanted Rune King : )
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Would Hunger really take on the Doom of the Eighth-Grader without even receiving a Remittance in exchange? The behavioral alterations are bad enough, but what about the damage to his dignity? Gisena was just upgraded, there's no need to give her ammunition as well!
Aabcehmu
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Personally, if we have 21 days of free time at the end of the month, I wouldn't be opposed to having Gisena incorporate the Decimation Lens into an Artifact Eye for Hunger (as has been discussed in the discord, last I was aware), which won't have the exact same aesthetic as the eyepatch but IMO is still a bit more interesting than just having two plain eyes.
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There's even a bit of a mythological backing for it, from Balor, King of the Fomorians
[X] Pillars of Creation
[X] Artemisinin
[X] Direct Mitigation
[X] Artemisinin
[X] Direct Mitigation
Tyrant_Rayne
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Can it even be considered to be a proper artificial eye if it can't fire beams?
I think the idea is cool enough, plus an Eye would definitely cover realms none of our other artifacts are currently encompassing.
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If we do get our Eye back, we can just use our Decimation Lens as a scouter! Maybe it can even fire Decimation Beams. We'd have plenty of time to upgrade it with Pillars!
Aabcehmu
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Turning the Decimation Lens into a proper scouter is acceptable to me, but IMO creating an Eye of Ruin that channels some of our Power of Ruin to harness the Decimation in addition to serving as a lens for determining Huntress' Moon targets would still be better.
Man, I just started thinking about what we could actually do.
How powerful is the Realm of Evening, could we make hyper intelligent loyal creatures that have no desire other than to do research for us, times thousands? If all they did was report an endless stream of data to Gisena, could that hyper speed her up?
I'm still holding out for a Praxis Technique for our final (for now) Accretion slot, maybe we can build on the Tears' discount to make Refinement of Quickness properly spammable. Grace-crafting's probably the best use of Gisena's downtime, that or single-shot Artifacts to spoof Apocryphal scaling. We're ahead of the curve for now, but shouldn't get too comfortable on our laurels. Augustine was the closest call Hunger's had yet, with the possible exception of Vanreir.
Well, we're three picks and twelve Arete away from weaponizing the Affliction one way, but this reminds me that Versch has a Grand Decimation attack. Come to think of it, there was a style of mitigation associated with the Armament too:
Man, it's been a while since we received a thread participation bonus...
Aabcehmu
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It's good mitigation, true, but, like. 4-picks are not fun, and making them a reliable source of Decimator mitigation seems like it's going to increase the odds of us voting for them more often, which in turn means we'll following Dying Gang for longer than we otherwise would.
Also, dangit, I just realized that Rihaku just pulled a "Four-bear" pun in an actual vote.
Alright, hear me out, I've been thinking what if we make something like a theme park and have a race of people inside that.....
[X] Pillars of Creation
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OK, now that that's out of the way, some discussion. I haven't read the discussion after page 1664 yet, so I'm not entirely sure what to put for the other votes. Still, I'll clarify my thoughts before doing so. I don't want to vote for other things that take Arete if we don't have enough to afford everything I vote for, as that may somehow contribute to them getting more votes than Pillars and preventing us from getting the one thing I've been most in favor of since I voted to lock it in back at the Springs.
So my Decimator vote will probably be Artemisinin, even though my first choice for where to direct excess Arete is Foremost Blade. I'm directly assuming we're going to get Fisher King at some point even if it stays at full price, so I definitely DO NOT want to spend a Mitigation of all things on it.
For the Apocryphal, I don't know whether Direct Mitigation or Golden Hour is better, but what I do know is that I'm not sure I'd pick Serendipity over the other two even if there wasn't an extra cost, so there is no way it's worth it when there is one.
Finally, in terms of our last pick, I wouldn't be too upset if Elder Sign displaced Foremost Blade for using 12 Arete, so if we somehow generate another 24 the only way I wouldn't say take it and Blade is if Rihaku adds another 25 cost option that's better than the two combined. If we don't, I'll probably end up voting for Iridescence simply because I don't remember what all our 1-pick, 0-Arete options are.
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OK, now that that's out of the way, some discussion. I haven't read the discussion after page 1664 yet, so I'm not entirely sure what to put for the other votes. Still, I'll clarify my thoughts before doing so. I don't want to vote for other things that take Arete if we don't have enough to afford everything I vote for, as that may somehow contribute to them getting more votes than Pillars and preventing us from getting the one thing I've been most in favor of since I voted to lock it in back at the Springs.
So my Decimator vote will probably be Artemisinin, even though my first choice for where to direct excess Arete is Foremost Blade. I'm directly assuming we're going to get Fisher King at some point even if it stays at full price, so I definitely DO NOT want to spend a Mitigation of all things on it.
For the Apocryphal, I don't know whether Direct Mitigation or Golden Hour is better, but what I do know is that I'm not sure I'd pick Serendipity over the other two even if there wasn't an extra cost, so there is no way it's worth it when there is one.
Finally, in terms of our last pick, I wouldn't be too upset if Elder Sign displaced Foremost Blade for using 12 Arete, so if we somehow generate another 24 the only way I wouldn't say take it and Blade is if Rihaku adds another 25 cost option that's better than the two combined. If we don't, I'll probably end up voting for Iridescence simply because I don't remember what all our 1-pick, 0-Arete options are.
Man, still don't know how muscle wizard ever lost this vote. With the realm of the evening though, the hour isn't yet too late to transition! We can still take our body as a Panoply artifact and really get the whole punch show on the road.
Let's not pretend we haven't been avoiding 4-picks - and we'll continue avoiding them like a goddamn plague. For all the risk memes (and truisms, tbf, even though a lot of whys and other details get lost and smoothed out by memery) the thread is pretty particular in how it wants its risks; in small % dosages, stretched out over a period of time, with plentiful opportunities to mitigate it into the ground by spamming arete.
The thread does not like risks we cannot buy our way out off by spamming arete. The thread is not going to go for a 4-pick fights with over-50% death chance, Vanreir seared himself into our subconscious pretty effectively.
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