A Little Trouble in Big China - A Chinese Warlord Quest

[X] Zhang Zuolin
-[X] Local power again: Keep dealing in industrial goods and continue reform direct control army under Xueliang with proper salaries and benefits to families. Reach out to British and see if they will grant some aid against growing Japanese Influence in Manchuria.
 
[X] Zhang Zuolin
-[X] Local power again: Keep dealing in industrial goods and continue reform direct control army under Xueliang with proper salaries and benefits to families. Reach out to British and see if they will grant some aid against growing Japanese Influence in Manchuria.
 
Alas, not all was well within Shanghai. The Tongs nearly topple Du at the mere mention of replacing their chief secondary income, opium, with some obscure Mexican grass.

@Dadarian, Marijuana isn't from Mexico. Or from America.

It came from Central Asia and India. And Marijuana is from the same plant that hemp is produced from, which is also cultivated in China for industrial purposes since Ancient...

...how the hell did opium outcompete marijuana in the first place if marijuana is in China literally thousands of years before opium? How the hell...I got an idea. Weird, weird idea.

Is "Little Trouble in Big China" happening in the same world as "Viva la Revolución: An Experimental Quest in Revolutionary Mexico"?

Also, in this part "Ties with elements of the Chinese National Party." Shouldn't it be "Chinese Revolutionary Party" by now?


[X] Du "Big-Eared Du" Yuesheng: Han mob boss who has a controlling interest in Shanghai and worked with elements of the Republicans. Ties with elements of the Chinese National Party.


- [X] Ask the Major and the Colonel to start training Tong members in how to war. To prevent friction between the two due to differences in military doctrine between the Americans and the French, there will be two training groups. Students will be rotated between the two groups so that the students will learn of two different doctrines of war and have a bigger repertoire of warmaking to choose from when the situation calls for it.

Start inserting or creating trustworthy agents in the lower rank bureaucracy of the Qing and the KMT so they can start subtly manipulating events and orders to create a long term stalemate situation between the Qing and the KMT while Shanghai powers up.

Secure yet more food sources along the coast to the north and the south with the aim to eventually have all fishing villages on the Mainland coast be secretly controlled by Shanghai.

Have Du Yuesheng supervise secret research and trials comparing the recreational effects of opium and marijuana, and secretly discuss with Chiang Kai Shek and selected Chinese scholars of Chinese history regarding connecting the long and ancient history of Marijuana in China and the short history of Opium importation in China to the current anti-foreign sentiment in China.

Research on this mythical breechloading flintlock rifle the American Major said the Americans had once adopted, and send the plans to the KMT to help them survive their shortage of ammunition.



And start inventorying how much weapons, ammunition, gunsmiths and ammunition factories the Shanghai Tongs actually have.
 
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I'll break down my answers for clarity.

1) Oh shit, didn't know. I totally thought the various cannabis plants were a new world plant (although cannabis indica should've timed me in). My bad, I'll rewrite that section. Result'll be the same tho for the year.
2) Because one is exceedingly more addictive than the other.
3) No, VLR and LTBC are in two different universes given how LTBC started after the time-split with VLR.
4) Fixed, ty.
 
[X] Du "Big-Eared Du" Yuesheng: Han mob boss who has a controlling interest in Shanghai and worked with elements of the Republicans. Ties with elements of the Chinese National Party.
- [X] Ask the Major and the Colonel to start training Tong members in how to war. To prevent friction between the two due to differences in military doctrine between the Americans and the French, there will be two training groups. Students will be rotated between the two groups so that the students will learn of two different doctrines of war and have a bigger repertoire of warmaking to choose from when the situation calls for it. Start inserting or creating trustworthy agents in the lower rank bureaucracy of the Qing and the KMT so they can start subtly manipulating events and orders to create a long term stalemate situation between the Qing and the KMT while Shanghai powers up. Secure yet more food sources along the coast to the north and the south with the aim to eventually have all fishing villages on the Mainland coast be secretly controlled by Shanghai. Have Du Yuesheng supervise secret research and trials comparing the recreational effects of opium and marijuana, and secretly discuss with Chiang Kai Shek and selected Chinese scholars of Chinese history regarding connecting the long and ancient history of Marijuana in China and the short history of Opium importation in China to the current anti-foreign sentiment in China. And start inventorying how much weapons, ammunition, gunsmiths and ammunition factories the Shanghai Tongs actually have.

@kilopi505 Connecting opium and anti-foreigner sentiment is a great idea. What are your thoughts on starting up weapons smuggling through our fishing ports? It would be incredibly profitable, give another way to control the war, and allow us to start building up Shanghai's armed forces.
 
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[X] Du "Big-Eared Du" Yuesheng: Han mob boss who has a controlling interest in Shanghai and worked with elements of the Republicans. Ties with elements of the Chinese National Party.
-[X] Kilopi505's Plan
 
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[X] Du "Big-Eared Du" Yuesheng: Han mob boss who has a controlling interest in Shanghai and worked with elements of the Republicans. Ties with elements of the Chinese National Party.
- [X] Ask the Major and the Colonel to start training Tong members in how to war. To prevent friction between the two due to differences in military doctrine between the Americans and the French, there will be two training groups. Students will be rotated between the two groups so that the students will learn of two different doctrines of war and have a bigger repertoire of warmaking to choose from when the situation calls for it. Start inserting or creating trustworthy agents in the lower rank bureaucracy of the Qing and the KMT so they can start subtly manipulating events and orders to create a long term stalemate situation between the Qing and the KMT while Shanghai powers up. Secure yet more food sources along the coast to the north and the south with the aim to eventually have all fishing villages on the Mainland coast be secretly controlled by Shanghai. Have Du Yuesheng supervise secret research and trials comparing the recreational effects of opium and marijuana, and secretly discuss with Chiang Kai Shek and selected Chinese scholars of Chinese history regarding connecting the long and ancient history of Marijuana in China and the short history of Opium importation in China to the current anti-foreign sentiment in China.

@kilopi505 Connecting opium and anti-foreigner sentiment is a great idea. What are your thoughts on starting up weapons smuggling through our fishing ports? It would be incredibly profitable, give another way to control the war, and allow us to start building up Shanghai's armed forces.

Still too early. Want to see the results of next turn before we try that.
 
Will the Tong's be amenable to supplying the Guomindang with weapons and ammunition ??
 
[X] Du "Big-Eared Du" Yuesheng: Han mob boss who has a controlling interest in Shanghai and worked with elements of the Republicans. Ties with elements of the Chinese National Party.

- [X] Ask the Major and the Colonel to start training Tong members in how to war. To prevent friction between the two due to differences in military doctrine between the Americans and the French, there will be two training groups. Students will be rotated between the two groups so that the students will learn of two different doctrines of war and have a bigger repertoire of warmaking to choose from when the situation calls for it.

Start inserting or creating trustworthy agents in the lower rank bureaucracy of the Qing and the KMT so they can start subtly manipulating events and orders to create a long term stalemate situation between the Qing and the KMT while Shanghai powers up. Secure yet more food sources along the coast to the north and the south with the aim to eventually have all fishing villages on the Mainland coast be secretly controlled by Shanghai.

Have Du Yuesheng supervise secret research and trials comparing the recreational effects of opium and marijuana, and secretly discuss with Chiang Kai Shek and selected Chinese scholars of Chinese history regarding connecting the long and ancient history of Marijuana in China and the short history of Opium importation in China to the current anti-foreign sentiment in China.

Research on this mythical breechloading flintlock rifle the American Major said the Americans had once adopted, and send the plans to the KMT to help them survive their shortage of ammunition.

And start inventorying how much weapons, ammunition, gunsmiths and ammunition factories the Shanghai Tongs actually have.
 
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[X] Du "Big-Eared Du" Yuesheng: Han mob boss who has a controlling interest in Shanghai and worked with elements of the Republicans. Ties with elements of the Chinese National Party.
- [X] Ask the Major and the Colonel to start training Tong members in how to war. To prevent friction between the two due to differences in military doctrine between the Americans and the French, there will be two training groups. Students will be rotated between the two groups so that the students will learn of two different doctrines of war and have a bigger repertoire of warmaking to choose from when the situation calls for it. Start inserting or creating trustworthy agents in the lower rank bureaucracy of the Qing and the KMT so they can start subtly manipulating events and orders to create a long term stalemate situation between the Qing and the KMT while Shanghai powers up. Secure yet more food sources along the coast to the north and the south with the aim to eventually have all fishing villages on the Mainland coast be secretly controlled by Shanghai. Have Du Yuesheng supervise secret research and trials comparing the recreational effects of opium and marijuana, and secretly discuss with Chiang Kai Shek and selected Chinese scholars of Chinese history regarding connecting the long and ancient history of Marijuana in China and the short history of Opium importation in China to the current anti-foreign sentiment in China. Research on this mythical breechloading flintlock rifle the American Major said the Americans had once adopted, and send the plans to the KMT to help them survive their shortage of ammunition. And start inventorying how much weapons, ammunition, gunsmiths and ammunition factories the Shanghai Tongs actually have.
 
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@Dadarian

How detailed are the plans supposed to be? Are voters to make it as concise as possible or add the kitchen sink too?
 
[X] Du "Big-Eared Du" Yuesheng: Han mob boss who has a controlling interest in Shanghai and worked with elements of the Republicans. Ties with elements of the Chinese National Party.
- [X] Ask the Major and the Colonel to start training Tong members in how to war. To prevent friction between the two due to differences in military doctrine between the Americans and the French, there will be two training groups. Students will be rotated between the two groups so that the students will learn of two different doctrines of war and have a bigger repertoire of warmaking to choose from when the situation calls for it. Start inserting or creating trustworthy agents in the lower rank bureaucracy of the Qing and the KMT so they can start subtly manipulating events and orders to create a long term stalemate situation between the Qing and the KMT while Shanghai powers up. Secure yet more food sources along the coast to the north and the south with the aim to eventually have all fishing villages on the Mainland coast be secretly controlled by Shanghai. Have Du Yuesheng supervise secret research and trials comparing the recreational effects of opium and marijuana, and secretly discuss with Chiang Kai Shek and selected Chinese scholars of Chinese history regarding connecting the long and ancient history of Marijuana in China and the short history of Opium importation in China to the current anti-foreign sentiment in China. Research on this mythical breechloading flintlock rifle the American Major said the Americans had once adopted, and send the plans to the KMT to help them survive their shortage of ammunition. And start inventorying how much weapons, ammunition, gunsmiths and ammunition factories the Shanghai Tongs actually have.

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[X] Du "Big-Eared Du" Yuesheng: Han mob boss who has a controlling interest in Shanghai and worked with elements of the Republicans. Ties with elements of the Chinese National Party.
- [X] Ask the Major and the Colonel to start training Tong members in how to war. To prevent friction between the two due to differences in military doctrine between the Americans and the French, there will be two training groups. Students will be rotated between the two groups so that the students will learn of two different doctrines of war and have a bigger repertoire of warmaking to choose from when the situation calls for it. Start inserting or creating trustworthy agents in the lower rank bureaucracy of the Qing and the KMT so they can start subtly manipulating events and orders to create a long term stalemate situation between the Qing and the KMT while Shanghai powers up. Secure yet more food sources along the coast to the north and the south with the aim to eventually have all fishing villages on the Mainland coast be secretly controlled by Shanghai. Have Du Yuesheng supervise secret research and trials comparing the recreational effects of opium and marijuana, and secretly discuss with Chiang Kai Shek and selected Chinese scholars of Chinese history regarding connecting the long and ancient history of Marijuana in China and the short history of Opium importation in China to the current anti-foreign sentiment in China. Research on this mythical breechloading flintlock rifle the American Major said the Americans had once adopted, and send the plans to the KMT to help them survive their shortage of ammunition.

Again, please include the inventorying! That is important!
 
[X]Sun Yat-sen
-[X] Negotiate with governments that have not colonized China (the Reds in Russia are sympathetic, the Dutch have not attemped colonization since the 17th century, the Spanish are having an exportation boom..., Siam is a native government...) for trade, and attempt to gain engineers and officers to better our industrial base and army. Subsidize the mechanization of the textile industry, and build state-owned cooperatives and companies. Begin negotiations with Shanghai for greater trade and better relationships, and keep an open mind towards them.
 
[X]Sun Yat-sen
-[X] Negotiate with governments that have not colonized China (the Reds in Russia are sympathetic, the Dutch have not attemped colonization since the 17th century, the Spanish are having an exportation boom..., Siam is a native government...) for trade, and attempt to gain engineers and officers to better our industrial base and army. Subsidize the mechanization of the textile industry, and build state-owned cooperatives and companies. Begin negotiations with Shanghai for greater trade and better relationships, and keep an open mind towards them.

The Kuomintang went far with the heavy support provided from the USSR, and it's the only plan supporting a faction I like. Sure.
 
[X]Sun Yat-sen
-[X] Negotiate with governments that have not colonized China (the Reds in Russia are sympathetic, the Dutch have not attemped colonization since the 17th century, the Spanish are having an exportation boom..., Siam is a native government...) for trade, and attempt to gain engineers and officers to better our industrial base and army. Subsidize the mechanization of the textile industry, and build state-owned cooperatives and companies. Begin negotiations with Shanghai for greater trade and better relationships, and keep an open mind towards them.
 
[X] Zhang Zuolin
-[X] Local power again: Keep dealing in industrial goods and continue reform direct control army under Xueliang with proper salaries and benefits to families. Reach out to British and see if they will grant some aid against growing Japanese Influence in Manchuria.
 
[X]Sun Yat-sen
-[X] Negotiate with governments that have not colonized China (the Reds in Russia are sympathetic, the Dutch have not attemped colonization since the 17th century, the Spanish are having an exportation boom..., Siam is a native government...) for trade, and attempt to gain engineers and officers to better our industrial base and army. Subsidize the mechanization of the textile industry, and build state-owned cooperatives and companies. Begin negotiations with Shanghai for greater trade and better relationships, and keep an open mind towards them.
 
Anyone else for Big Eared Du?!

Anyone else for the city state of Shanghai?!

Also, question. China also borders Afghanistan to the West. Does anyone have any appetite for Afghan produced weapons and mercenaries?
 
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