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A Little Trouble in Big China - A Chinese Warlord Quest

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Now that I think about it, I guess Mao could in theory get to Qing without risking a trek in the really hairy K-KMT territory by going through the Japanese-controlled lands of Fujian. IIRC they were not super great about annihilating partisans engaged in combat with them there, and it may be that the local support remains even while the partisans have gone underground and haven't been attacking the Japanese since the conclusion of the war. Though perhaps that might have been one of the things that the Japanese were now trying to become focused on, like how they were investing in armor to stump Zhang Xueliang's trenches. Still, even if that's more plausible, that'd leave Mao only with territory south of the Yangtze to bug unless he can get a bunch of partisans across/inspired on the other side of the well-patrolled mouth of the river. Not much room to run to should someone swoop in to bite him and his.
 
Kipeci said:
Ignoring condom bombs...

Now that I think about it, I guess Mao could in theory get to Qing without risking a trek in the really hairy K-KMT territory by going through the Japanese-controlled lands of Fujian. IIRC they were not super great about annihilating partisans engaged in combat with them there, and it may be that the local support remains even while the partisans have gone underground and haven't been attacking the Japanese since the conclusion of the war. Though perhaps that might have been one of the things that the Japanese were now trying to become focused on, like how they were investing in armor to stump Zhang Xueliang's trenches. Still, even if that's more plausible, that'd leave Mao only with territory south of the Yangtze to bug unless he can get a bunch of partisans across/inspired on the other side of the well-patrolled mouth of the river. Not much room to run to should someone swoop in to bite him and his.
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Isnt the other side of the mirror on both sides for a length of it British controlled?
 
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Isnt the other side of the mirror on both sides for a length of it British controlled?
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I'm pretty sure that's not formal control of land on both sides of the river. What it should be is that the major European colonial powers, US and Japan (and to a much lesser extent, China- probably Qing China) are having gunboats on patrol up and down the river to protect their trading interests; of these, the largest is the British. They can thus keep the area open for trade and respond quickly if anyone should try to attack foreign business along the Yangtze. They are likely not incredibly interested in letting communists cross the river, and on the lower Yangtze it should be even more controlled than areas like the vicinity of Wuhan.

That said, Zhejiang is still on the southern side of the Yangtze so Qing territory is accessible to communists without crossing that river- so long as the partisans are able to brave a trek through Japanese-held Fujian, anyway.
 
Or your folks can just disguise yourselves as ordinary passengers and hire Tong fishermen to transport them north 'to visit relatives'
 
The river issue is a serious one. It's one thing for some individuals to get passage and cross over, but for thousands of partisans in a small area there are just so many interactions that could notify authorities on either side or the staunchly anticommunist patrollers of the river. There may not be many local forces on the northern Qing side, but that's not the case on the K-KMT side that they start out on and an early discovery could easily result in the bulk of partisans being surrounded and destroyed on the southern side before a substantial number of combatants have been placed in the north.

Now, Mao could still be a big threat if he gets through even if the majority of the folks who accompany him get slaughtered; he had as few as 7,000 with him in 1935 after the Long March, which I think is less than even Du Yuesheng at this point! Still, he managed to build support & strength to win anyway when the Nationalists became preoccupied with fending off the brunt of Japanese invasion.

After all, Qing have a lot of threats to deal with right now, so they might not be able to focus too strongly on rooting him out immediately should he get through. Much of the northeastern warlords are tied up there to discourage one of their fellow warlords invading. The Japanese rule in Shanghai and Fujian on the southeastern edges of Qing. The K-KMT are now friends but may yet return to their republican ideals as their leftist enemies are destroyed in the south. Meanwhile, even as that socialist entity contracts, in the northwest Qing finds itself engaged in struggle against a new one that is more easily supported by the USSR. It seems that most anyone could jump in and threaten the Qing and expect a distracted response, given the threats it faces all around.
 
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    I'm sorry, but this is too large of a quest to do now that I am fully employed. I want to thank absolutely everyone for all that they have done, contributed, fought both together and against one another. This was one of my favourite projects and it could not have been completed without each one of you.

    I might make something much (much) smaller scale in the future, but until that time if you ever want to chat or need input I am more than willing to help.
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    This was one of the most enjoyable quests I've had the pleasure to read on this site; though I must admit that I regret to see it pass, I am glad that you've found a more secure footing. I think this has shown that even warlord China is better off without our collective scheming, but it was quite entertaining.
     
    Ah shit. The Dragon's Claw was just about to rip open the throats of the filthy traitors!

    Oh well I understand.

    Begins to plot a quest styled after this one
     
    And Comrade Mao was just about to destroy the Qing Reactionaries. :(

    Ah well, that's understandable. Good luck with everything!
     
    Dadarian said:
    I'm sorry, but this is too large of a quest to do now that I am fully employed. I want to thank absolutely everyone for all that they have done, contributed, fought both together and against one another. This was one of my favourite projects and it could not have been completed without each one of you.

    I might make something much (much) smaller scale in the future, but until that time if you ever want to chat or need input I am more than willing to help.
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    Well, at least you informed us rather than leave us hanging in the wind for several more years.

    ...I'm sad.

    Du Yuesheng can do antics no more.

    Just...sad.
     
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