Dadarian
The King of Queen's
- Location
- Queen's on the Shore
A Little Trouble in Big China - A Chinese Warlord Quest
DanBaque
Let's Have Fun
- Location
- Occupied Catalonian Countries
- Pronouns
- He/Him
Would you accept Exterminatus's option:
As meaning that he wll not fight over his command over the military being taken away? Or should the plan be modified?
Dadarian
The King of Queen's
- Location
- Queen's on the Shore
- Location
- Ural, Russia, Earth
After some thinking I decided to postpone the Revolution. Considering lack of support in-thread and undetermined support in-game, it'll just turn into useless bloodbath.
Yat-Sen and Co. are surely more competent than idiots from Russian Interim Government were.
[X] Chen Duxiu: Han Leader of the CPC.
-[X] Shore up support for the CPC to ensure it takes a prominent place in the new village and city councils.
-[X] Continue anti-Japanese propaganda on KMT, Warlords and Qing territory. Paint the Imperial government and Warlords who refused to fight Japanese as cowards and traitors. "Today they gave up Manchuria, tomorrow they'll give up YOU! Only the KMT-CPC United Front support people of Manchuria in their plight and continue to fight for freedom of China!"
-[X] Prop up a partisan movement in Japanese-occupied regions, including (with Soviet help) Manchuria. Concentrate on disrupting the Japanese logistic. Organise close coordination and intel-sharing with the Republic Army and the Fengtian Clique.
-[X] Sponsor an education of the talented youth in Soviet Union. China needs industry and military specialists, and the CPC needs ideology and propaganda specialists.
Yat-Sen and Co. are surely more competent than idiots from Russian Interim Government were.
[X] Chen Duxiu: Han Leader of the CPC.
-[X] Shore up support for the CPC to ensure it takes a prominent place in the new village and city councils.
-[X] Continue anti-Japanese propaganda on KMT, Warlords and Qing territory. Paint the Imperial government and Warlords who refused to fight Japanese as cowards and traitors. "Today they gave up Manchuria, tomorrow they'll give up YOU! Only the KMT-CPC United Front support people of Manchuria in their plight and continue to fight for freedom of China!"
-[X] Prop up a partisan movement in Japanese-occupied regions, including (with Soviet help) Manchuria. Concentrate on disrupting the Japanese logistic. Organise close coordination and intel-sharing with the Republic Army and the Fengtian Clique.
-[X] Sponsor an education of the talented youth in Soviet Union. China needs industry and military specialists, and the CPC needs ideology and propaganda specialists.
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VoidZero
Passing Flan 布丁魔王
- Location
- Anywhere but RL
I like this, the CPC will find warmer reception now and post war (if it happens) Fengtian clique land than Zuolin-era. Maybe you want to check up on the young CPC members studying in Soviet land, give them money to expand your CPC pull.
- Location
- Florida
[X]Tang Jiyao
[X] Plan: Gambit
[X] Plan: Gambit
- Jiyao will attempt to negotiate an alliance with the Zhili, offering protection, cooperation and their autonomy in exchange for usage of their troops and resources.
- Jiyao will also reach out to the "other" KMT members, promising support and aid against the Japanese in exchange for a suitable candidate to replace Sun Yat Sen, either one of the Right KMT or a Centrist or Moderate
- Form up a military academy to bolster the Officer Corps while looking improve existing equipment and logistics
- A brand new Espionage and security apparatus will be created for local intelligence and beyond
- If progress is not made with the Left-KMT, resources and aid will instead flow north to aid in fighting the Japanese with an understanding from Wu Peifu and Zhang Xueliang
VoidZero
Passing Flan 布丁魔王
- Location
- Anywhere but RL
Errrr, Qing and aligned is not involved in this war yet. So good luck with getting Wu's blind eye, his predecessor did just get beaten to death.
- Location
- Florida
We shall see.
Battle of Jehol; 1923
Dadarian
The King of Queen's
- Location
- Queen's on the Shore
Beautiful wiki box, it's now threadmarked. That said, the elections weren't rigged per say, the military simply leaned a certain way and the vote went a certain way.
I'll give it another 24hrs given the slow down in votes.
DanBaque
Let's Have Fun
- Location
- Occupied Catalonian Countries
- Pronouns
- He/Him
Thanks!
Just edited this question in a moment ago, apologies for repeating myself, but I think you haven't seen it:
- Do the Japanese know that the Left-KMT have an airforce theoretically capable of bombing their navy?
Dadarian
The King of Queen's
- Location
- Queen's on the Shore
No, but that is a pretty heady theory given where you are right now.
- Location
- USA
- Pronouns
- He/Him
New
[X]Tang Jiyao
[X] Plan: Gambit
[X]Tang Jiyao
[X] Plan: Gambit
- Jiyao will attempt to negotiate an alliance with the Zhili, offering protection, cooperation and their autonomy in exchange for usage of their troops and resources.
- Jiyao will also reach out to the "other" KMT members, promising support and aid against the Japanese in exchange for a suitable candidate to replace Sun Yat Sen, either one of the Right KMT or a Centrist or Moderate
- Form up a military academy to bolster the Officer Corps while looking improve existing equipment and logistics
- A brand new Espionage and security apparatus will be created for local intelligence and beyond
- If progress is not made with the Left-KMT, resources and aid will instead flow north to aid in fighting the Japanese with an understanding from Wu Peifu and Zhang Xueliang
- Location
- US
- Pronouns
- He/They
[X]Tang Jiyao
[X] Plan: Gambit
[X] Plan: Gambit
- Jiyao will attempt to negotiate an alliance with the Zhili, offering protection, cooperation and their autonomy in exchange for usage of their troops and resources.
- Jiyao will also reach out to the "other" KMT members, promising support and aid against the Japanese in exchange for a suitable candidate to replace Sun Yat Sen, either one of the Right KMT or a Centrist or Moderate
- Form up a military academy to bolster the Officer Corps while looking improve existing equipment and logistics
- A brand new Espionage and security apparatus will be created for local intelligence and beyond
- If progress is not made with the Left-KMT, resources and aid will instead flow north to aid in fighting the Japanese with an understanding from Wu Peifu and Zhang Xueliang
August 9th, 1925
Dadarian
The King of Queen's
- Location
- Queen's on the Shore
August 9th, 1925
Teal - Qing Empire
Dark Teal - Qing-aligned Warlords
Light Green - KMT Government
Dark Green - KMT-aligned Warlords
Yellow - Japan
Soviet Red - Russia
Soviet Brown - Mongolia
Pink - Great Britain
Blue - France
Orange - Netherlands
Dark Teal - USA
Baby Teal - Fengtian Clique
Dark Teal - Qing-aligned Warlords
Light Green - KMT Government
Dark Green - KMT-aligned Warlords
Yellow - Japan
Soviet Red - Russia
Soviet Brown - Mongolia
Pink - Great Britain
Blue - France
Orange - Netherlands
Dark Teal - USA
Baby Teal - Fengtian Clique
Before getting to the momentous occasions of the year, first the equally important events, although less spectacularly impressive. Within Zhuhai, the Tongs get the gang back together, importing what gangsters who aren't hiding for brothel duties on the border with Macao. This brothel, following Du's ethical and health standards, would be an excellent source of both much needed income and of implanting passive spies within Macao, of individuals whose lips were just a tad too loose. They spoke little of the Japanese, obviously giving little attention to the warfare to the north and the farther north. These spies did allow intelligence to be spread to the KMTs (should the pay for it), especially given the lack of border control between the Zhuhai Tong and the KMT proper. This was good given the positive reports returned by the Taiwanese gangs, who were still both in connection to, and totally loyal to, the Zhuhai Tongs.
The planned clinic would be put off in lieu of not enough funds, which left Du with an exceptional amount of time for his own endeavors. Du took this time to learn how to sail, gleefully learning all the required skills in a location many would call paradise. However, his thoughts over how to create a syncretic idea marrying capitalism and communism are known only to him, expounding on his lonesome to the open seas of the world.
One idea of Du's that did pop up during his time on the ocean was the creation of a saltern, or a sea salt factory. Hurrying off back to Zhuhai, Du put his plan into action, and built not only one, but three saltern factories. This was applauded as the Chinese always needed more salt in their diet, and the industry proved to be very lucrative. Lucrative enough to hire a couple thousand new members to the Tong within Zhuhai, more than enough to defend their lands against bandits and the police, should they ever come.
Within the Qing, Prince Chun begins an extensive effort within the Empire to get a mind about the state of the Empire. Although he was very quietly warned by the now adult (and fully educated) Emperor not to tamper with the Imperial Body by seeking to change his education, the Prince made numerous important discoveries. The first being that the Banner Armies were not under any centralised control, rather were controlled almost entirely by warlords. Further these warlords were held to only nominal loyalty to the throne, with fewer loyalists every year and most attached to their autonomy and their pay cheque. This prompted the Prince to create the Imperial Guard, which although not necessarily a fulsome body yet, is an actual army loyal entirely to the Emperor.
Further, the Prince found that although the administration was more than enough to manage the nation, it also actually was both bloated and corrupt. Fake bureaucrats, family run offices, and entrenched spies are all found to be part and parcel of the bureaucracy from Xinjiang to the Yellow River Delta. Chun managed to expunge some of it out and replaced with competent and loyal bureaucrats, however it could not be guaranteed to be gone without another, proper look.
This allowed Chun to engage with many of the warlords from a position of strength, with a loyal army at his back and a bureaucracy that won't be paralysed in the meantime and at a minimal bribe. Most of the warlords immediately were brought into the fold, with the Ma and the Xinjiang Cliques not making a peep in hopes of avoiding notice. However the area of primary interest became the Zhili Clique, which has been shafted from leadership positions for years. Negotiations with Wu would take a wild turn after it was discovered that parallel negotiations were being conducted with elements of the Right-KMT. This gave the impetus to Chun to convince Wu, at the cost of the integration of both Zhili and Anhui cliques into one under Marshal Wu, to stay in the Qing.
Modernisation attempts would not go nearly as well, as it was found that the nation was nearly as archaic as it was during the opium wars. Mechanisation was nowhere as close to anywhere in the Republic or Manchuria, healthcare was nearly medieval, and many villages were lucky to have both roads and animals. This would be shocking, as it showed just how much a paper tiger, both economically and militarily the Qing was without it's warlords. While basic mechanisation and industrialisation began in some cities such as Nanjing and Beijing, it would take years to reach the Qing's neighbours.
Within the Right-KMT, as a result of the success of Prince Chun, their overtures to Wu Peifu failed. However they did manage to gain further contacts within the Qing, and secured an ear to the Prince should they ever need or want to use it. This left the Rightist KMT in a positive enough position that it engaged in minor internal development. This was done primarily in the form of the creation of a pair of officer academies in Kunming and Kanchow. Further the Office of Military Reconnaissance was created in Kunming, acting as the hidden eyes, ears, and daggers of the Rightist KMT. They quickly proved themselves effective by quietly locating and disposing of Communist provocateurs trying to come up to preach communist propaganda and slur the Rightists for their lack of participation.
Perhaps the most momentive occasion within 1925 would be the passing of the President-Marshal, having passed away due to liver cancer on the 12th of March. This event was widely mourned throughout the Leftist-KMT, especially in locales such as Hunan and Changsha where public displays of grief were both common and exceedingly public. A funeral procession, marching from Changsha to Zhongshan, was said to be conducted under Japanese sniper fire along some roads and contain hundreds of thousands of men, women, and children. The members of the Chinese Communist Party wore black banners about their heads and arms, a practice taken up by (the sometimes ignorant) partisans trained by the CPC within places like Fujian and Manchuria.
However, to properly expound on the fallout of the President-Marshal's death, one must take into account the preamble into his growing illness and passing. This preamble can be divided into three sections, insofar as they all immensely interconnect and interweave within the social fabric of the Republic's politics. These sections being: succession, the communists, and the rightists.
The succession was a matter of much concern, as the very divided troika circled the dying President-Marshal's powers. The first to be challenged would be Borodin, who had accrued much power in the army, and was the single strongest individual within the Republic. Be it whatever the reason, in the game of chicken which is power, Borodin blinked. When Borodin was confronted and it was demanded he be moved from de facto generalissimo to a location where he would be in charge of cripples and the sickly, Borodin agreed. It is unknown why this occurred, but Borodin willingly gave up his powers, which were handed over to the card carrying fellow communist Zhang Guotao, and proceeded to spend the vast majority of his time tinkering with the various (and expanding) support battalions within the NRA. From engineering/labour battalions, to hospital/triage, to signalling/communication, Borodin put his back into it and formulated the Republic's army support structure into one of the most extensive (and some would argue modern) in the world.
This alarmed numerous individuals within the Right-KMT and even more moderate members of the KMT, as it seemed that the Communist-KMT cooperation only intensified, especially in the military. Guotao strode confidently through the waves of such worries, as he sought a twin pronged approach. Having (similar to Borodin before him) absolute authority in the decision making of the NRA, combined with the extensive cooperation of the CPC militias, Guotao first prong was through the creation of a Fabian doctrine of delaying tactics, massed warfare, and partisan engagement both in front of and behind enemy lines. Officers were source internally in many units as the militias were just told to elect their officers if one could not be provided. This would be needed, as refugees would by and large take into the military, filling recruitment offices and nearly breaking the supply chains so delicately crafted by Borodin.
The second prong was through absolutely tremendous spending on numerous, expansive projects. Be it the integration of what few militias were fleeing from Right-KMT territory into the army, the establishment of yet another officer school in Changsha, fortifications seemingly built in every village larger than two cattle and a spitoon, or the evacuation of civilians deemed to be in locations too close to the front. Thanks to the financial structures (what were left following the fall of Canton) made by Liao Zhongkai, the Republic managed to make, steal, or barter enough funds in order to get much of these projects. However reports indicated that spending was reaching record levels, most notably in building materials for fortifications and pay cheques to volunteer civilian labour battalions. Further it is only thanks to the extensive industrialisation of Hunan and Changsha (even if it was made entirely by hand) by Liao Zhongkai that allowed an 88 into (almost) every recruit. Those that weren't working on rifles were reverse designing planes so the final vision of the President-Marshal of a proper air force would be vindicated before the world.
The dutiful Zhongkai would see, finally, vindication for his tireless and often thankless work, when the President-Marshal declared him the official successor. This would be confirmed in a closed vote of "KMT" members, where Left-KMT members voted by and large to appoint Zhongkai as the next President of the Republic following the death of Sun Yat-sen. A few of the delegates, either scared of the de-facto communist nature of Zhongkai or 'convinced' by the Right-KMT (who were themselves barred from voting) voted for Chiang Kai-shek as the next president before storming out of the convention centre and fleeing north to join with the Right-KMT. The next President of the Republic of China (Changsha) would be none other than Liao Zhongkai.
It would seem to many that Zhongkai would not be the only winner of the passing of Sun Yat-sen. Democratisation efforts within the many villages and communes of China would see them quickly preyed upon by communist provocateurs, who would agitate (often to great success) the adoption of the village into the Party, promising pride, education abroad, and equality. The CPC would receive a further boost when the Republic offered to allow women to have the vote in villages that allowed it, those that weren't scared out of their minds at the very idea of a women having equal rights as men sung the praises of the Communist Party in their influence upon both the late and current President.
The next most important thing to happen in China would be the ten-week Jehol offensive, conducted by the Japanese in the vain attempt to finally break the Fengtian and crush the remnants beneath their boots. But thanks to a combination of seemingly endless material support from the Rightist KMT, the Qing, and the USSR, this would not come to be. Trenches were held, sometimes by the barest of margins, while Colonel Max Bauer oversaw the modernisation of Xueliang's massed artillery formations. The IJA, with no armoured spearhead and limited artillery, could not break through lines. Although the death toll was tremendous, the Second Battle of Jehol was yet another victory, held thinly by the Fengtian. This would prove to be the last embarrassment by the IJA, as Prime Minister Korekiyo would meet with Zhang Xun in late July. Following a hushed series of negotiations (and thanks in large part to Prince Chun's centralisation measures) the Emperor himself signed the peace treaty. Manchuria would be given over to the Manchukuon state, who engaged furiously and ferverishly with bandits across the north, both Japan's inspectorates of Fujian and Chinese Shanghai recognised, and the war with Japan was over. Although humiliating to many within the Qing, in truth the reforms had shown just how weak the internal Qing structures were, and how utterly unprepared they were for a war. This would come to as a shock to the rest of the nation, as partisans and the IJA would routinely fight in running battles throughout the shanty-towns, rice paddies, and many rivers of Canton and Fujian. The Fabian tactics and partisan support being so strong in these areas that the IJA and elements of the IJN were unable to engage in aggressive movements well into the summer.
Who do you support?
Changsa-KMT China:
Liao Zhongkai: Han Politician, Left-KMT, President of the Republic of China, Special Plenipotentiary of Industry of the Republic of China.
Mikhail Borodin: Russian expat and general of the KMT. Borrowed from the Soviets until 1927.
Tang Shaoyi: Han politician, Left-KMT, Special Plenipotentiary of Diplomacy of the Republic of China.
Kunming-KMT China:
Li Liejun: Han General, Warlord of the Jiangxi Clique, and KMT-aligned warlord.
Tang Jiyao: Yunnanese Warlord, Leader of the Yunnan Clique, and KMT-aligned warlord.
Lu Rongting: Zhuang General, Warlord of the Nanning Clique, KMT-aligned warlord.
Liu Xiang: Han General, Warlord of the Sichuan Clique, KMT-aligned warlord.
Chiang Kai-shek: Han Leader of the Kemingtang. ex-Political Governor of Shanghai.
Bai Chongxi: Hui Warlord, ex-leader of the Landowner Revolt in Guangdong.
Fengtian Clique:
Xu Shichang: Han statesman, propaganda minister.
Zhang Xueliang: Han General, the Young Marshal, Leader of the Fengtian Clique.
Qing China:
Duan Qirui: Han General, Leader of the Anhui Clique, and disgraced member of the Imperial Court.
Ma Fuxiang: Hui Warlord, Leader of the Ma Clique. Noted reactionary.
Yang Zhengxin: Han General, Leader of the Xinjiang Clique. Noted monarchist.
Wu Peifu: Han General, Leader of the Greater Zhili Clique, Marshal of the Qing. Powerful member of the Imperial Court.
Zhang Xun: Han General, Leader of the Manchu Restoration Movement, member of the Imperial Court. Lord of the Privy Seal.
Prince Chun: Manchu Prince, father of the Qing Emperor. Prime Minister of the Qing.
Manchukuo:
Zhang Zongchang: Han Warlord, former bandit, "Basest Warlord in China", and leader of the Japanese puppet state of Manchukuo.
Tong Zhuhai:
Du "Big-Eared Du" Yuesheng: Han mob boss who has a controlling interest in Shanghai and worked with elements of the Republicans. Ties with elements of the Chinese Revolutionary Party (Kemingtang).
Communist Party of China:
Chen Duxiu: Han Leader of the CPC.
Zhang Guotao: Han General of the CPC-KMT, Commander-and-Chief of the Republic of China.
Mandatory Vote
Do you recognise publicly the Emperor's Peace with China?
Add vote [ ] Yes/No to your plan please.
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Dadarian
The King of Queen's
- Location
- Queen's on the Shore
Your faction specifically. So for example the KMTs could recognise it but the CPC might continue to fight or vice versa.
DanBaque
Let's Have Fun
- Location
- Occupied Catalonian Countries
- Pronouns
- He/Him
Provisional plan:
[X]Liao Zhongkai
-[X] Plan Peace for Victory
-[X] Do you recognise publicly the Emperor's Peace with China? Yes
1. The Left-KMT financial situation is disastrous. This situation must be quickly reformed:
-- A tax reform, as the tax system in the Left-KMT is antiquated, based on old Qing methods, and inefficient. Set up: a strong georgist, land-value tax, a small VAT tax, a medium-to-large progressive tax, a medium capital gains tax, anda medium marginal income tax. All other taxes in use will be abolished once the new ones are applied.
-- Various unexplored or unexcavated ore deposits will be rented out (for up to 12 years, and a written promise that the contract will likely be theirs afterwards) to anyone willing to invest in them. If the buyers are Chinese workers willing to create mining cooperatives, they will be allowed to use them with a smaller rent, and buy them outright or in stages.
-- Reform the Chinese Central bank to be more efficient and work better, and to combat inflation while still using the silver yuan. At the same time, it will create a new unit of currency, named the Republican Chinese Dollar, which will be accepted as legal tender by the Goverment, but not convertible to silver (fiat money). It will be accepted as legal tender for taxation (to show confidence in it), and initially given the same value as the silver yuan. It will not be printed on a massive scale, to avoid high inflation.
-- Besides all this, if the government is threatened by bankruptcy, then temporarily costs and payments will be slightly cut, particularly in industrial development.
2. Chinese civilian industry is woeful. It is in dire need of an expansion (this shall all be done with the aid of what Soviet engineers and knowledge can be gained):
- Create a hydroelectric industry in China (run-of-the-river and dams), with both the army engineers and civilians working to create them (maintanance and occupation shall only be done by civilian workers). The new sources of electricity will be used to electrify the industry ( military factories first).
- Continue mechanization of agriculture, funded by both the state when financially possible and the farmers and communes themselves, who will be subsidized.
- Have the Bureau of Infrastructure create factories where train engines and railroads can be built, with the first railroad built going from the factories of Canton to the mines that supply it. If it is possible, begin creating a polycentric rail network that unites all the mayor industrial and trade centers in Left-KMT China and the mines that supply them.
3. Now that the war with Japan is over, the conditions of the Chinese people must rise:
- Labor rights will be expanded thoroughly, with these conditions: 8-hour, 5 day workweek, a month of paid vacation plus 15 day holidays around the year, complete freedom of association, the illegalization of labour under 12, the right of collective bargaining, prohibition of child labor, the right to strike, and a living wage, enshrined in law.
In the case of military factories/ workplaces that produce war materiel, strikes are also legal, but only after negotiation has been attempted. The aim of this reform, besides bettering the conditions of the industrial working class, is to make sure that any product made in Chinese factories (such as bullets, rifles…) does not have flaws/is more reliable due to the worker not being exhausted and distracted, even though production as a whole will be lowered. The other aim is to gain more civilian support for Liao Zhongkai (and the Left-KMT), the architect and promoter of this reform. In order for factories to still be filled, there will be calls for chinese from the Qing and the Right-KMT (or anywhere else) to come work in the Left-KMT where it is plentiful and conditions are great.
- As workers shall have more free time, townhall/city square open-air literacy classes shall be given to those who desire it by any literate volunteer. The KMT will ask (and organize) its members to participate, both in the learning and the teaching. (Soong Ching-Ling)
- Presidential and legislative elections will also be held, with the old independent special committee reformed to be sure of impartiality. Liao Zhongkai will campaign as candidate under the KMT banner.
4. Reform the KMT party , in preparation for the upcoming elections, to gain as many votes for the Left-KMT as possible:
- Shift the KMT organization to be even more of a mass party, permitting all sorts of people to join, for a very small fee, that can be waived if the member is found to be of low-income. This will also be used to propagate KMT ideas into the countryside and increase the membership as much as possible, as it is the KMT that proposes that peasants can have true revolutionary spirit.
- Recreate the Tongmenghui within Qing China, creating a secret society and resistance movement linked to the Left-KMT. Hanyang 88s and other arms will be smuggled over if possible.
- Liao Zhongkai will create a pressure group of members of the KMT that are more left-leaning (not necessarily communist, can be sindicalist, anarchist, councilist... or just more left-leaning than the avergae KMT) than the rest and want to keep and expand democracy, called the Revolutionary Comitee of the KMT. Naturally, if a right-wing pressure group forms, it will be allowed, but watched in case it has something to do with the Right-KMT.
- In order to not alienate the anarchist democratic groups, the anarchists that were chased out of Guangzhou by the Japanese invasion (in OTL they where chased out by the KMT, but since no order like that was given, and no internal repression has been done, I'm assuming they were still in their spaces) will be allowed to return to the neighbourhoods that they controlled, as long as they continue to pay their taxes. This will also be used to keep the anarchist members of the KMT (examples: 1, 2, 3, 4) in it and happy, as their influential relationship with the Chinese student education groups in Tokyo and Paris will allow for more chinese to be sent to study there, and more knowledge to be sent to China.
- If the Right-KMT does not participate in the elections, they shall be lambasted due to their little love of democracy and Chinese unity.
5. Have Tang Shaoyi negotiate with all powers outside of China for more trade deals and greater investment: (Tang Shaoyi)
- Conditions for the investment will be made welcoming, with slightly lower taxes and tarriffs (if you invest) for this year.
-Negotiations with the Soviet Union shall be continued now that they can, with aid being asked for once again, in this case for experts in the mechanization of agriculture, aid for the creation of railways and train engines and constructing civilian industry, the selling/gifting of spare artillery, airplanes, trucks... And as always, officers to teach at Whampoa. Offer raw materials, food, and whatever China can supply that they are in need of (not workers).
6. Now that the war is over, the armaments industry must be reformed:
-- Standardize small arms production, choosing the Howell as the rifle for the Army (and, though at second-place, also for the militias), while other rifles are given to the militias or kept in storage (in cities/fortified towns) when they are no longer needed.
-- Reform the armaments industry to ensure the reliability of its production, especially ammunition.
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@Dadarian
- Does the Left-KMT have the ability to create railroads?
- Is there a lot of unemployment in KMT China? That is, would industrial production suffer due to lack of manpower once the new labor rights are in, or would the only new problem be a much higher cost?
- Can the Left-KMT communicate with its part of Sichuan, and the Right-KMT with Jianxi province (held by a warlord)?
-Does Manchuria (the part given to Japan) include the territory Xueliang still holds?
- Just to make sure: will the Japanese abandon Canton after the peace is accepted?
[X]Liao Zhongkai
-[X] Plan Peace for Victory
-[X] Do you recognise publicly the Emperor's Peace with China? Yes
1. The Left-KMT financial situation is disastrous. This situation must be quickly reformed:
-- A tax reform, as the tax system in the Left-KMT is antiquated, based on old Qing methods, and inefficient. Set up: a strong georgist, land-value tax, a small VAT tax, a medium-to-large progressive tax, a medium capital gains tax, anda medium marginal income tax. All other taxes in use will be abolished once the new ones are applied.
-- Various unexplored or unexcavated ore deposits will be rented out (for up to 12 years, and a written promise that the contract will likely be theirs afterwards) to anyone willing to invest in them. If the buyers are Chinese workers willing to create mining cooperatives, they will be allowed to use them with a smaller rent, and buy them outright or in stages.
-- Reform the Chinese Central bank to be more efficient and work better, and to combat inflation while still using the silver yuan. At the same time, it will create a new unit of currency, named the Republican Chinese Dollar, which will be accepted as legal tender by the Goverment, but not convertible to silver (fiat money). It will be accepted as legal tender for taxation (to show confidence in it), and initially given the same value as the silver yuan. It will not be printed on a massive scale, to avoid high inflation.
-- Besides all this, if the government is threatened by bankruptcy, then temporarily costs and payments will be slightly cut, particularly in industrial development.
2. Chinese civilian industry is woeful. It is in dire need of an expansion (this shall all be done with the aid of what Soviet engineers and knowledge can be gained):
- Create a hydroelectric industry in China (run-of-the-river and dams), with both the army engineers and civilians working to create them (maintanance and occupation shall only be done by civilian workers). The new sources of electricity will be used to electrify the industry ( military factories first).
- Continue mechanization of agriculture, funded by both the state when financially possible and the farmers and communes themselves, who will be subsidized.
- Have the Bureau of Infrastructure create factories where train engines and railroads can be built, with the first railroad built going from the factories of Canton to the mines that supply it. If it is possible, begin creating a polycentric rail network that unites all the mayor industrial and trade centers in Left-KMT China and the mines that supply them.
3. Now that the war with Japan is over, the conditions of the Chinese people must rise:
- Labor rights will be expanded thoroughly, with these conditions: 8-hour, 5 day workweek, a month of paid vacation plus 15 day holidays around the year, complete freedom of association, the illegalization of labour under 12, the right of collective bargaining, prohibition of child labor, the right to strike, and a living wage, enshrined in law.
In the case of military factories/ workplaces that produce war materiel, strikes are also legal, but only after negotiation has been attempted. The aim of this reform, besides bettering the conditions of the industrial working class, is to make sure that any product made in Chinese factories (such as bullets, rifles…) does not have flaws/is more reliable due to the worker not being exhausted and distracted, even though production as a whole will be lowered. The other aim is to gain more civilian support for Liao Zhongkai (and the Left-KMT), the architect and promoter of this reform. In order for factories to still be filled, there will be calls for chinese from the Qing and the Right-KMT (or anywhere else) to come work in the Left-KMT where it is plentiful and conditions are great.
- As workers shall have more free time, townhall/city square open-air literacy classes shall be given to those who desire it by any literate volunteer. The KMT will ask (and organize) its members to participate, both in the learning and the teaching. (Soong Ching-Ling)
- Presidential and legislative elections will also be held, with the old independent special committee reformed to be sure of impartiality. Liao Zhongkai will campaign as candidate under the KMT banner.
4. Reform the KMT party , in preparation for the upcoming elections, to gain as many votes for the Left-KMT as possible:
- Shift the KMT organization to be even more of a mass party, permitting all sorts of people to join, for a very small fee, that can be waived if the member is found to be of low-income. This will also be used to propagate KMT ideas into the countryside and increase the membership as much as possible, as it is the KMT that proposes that peasants can have true revolutionary spirit.
- Recreate the Tongmenghui within Qing China, creating a secret society and resistance movement linked to the Left-KMT. Hanyang 88s and other arms will be smuggled over if possible.
- Liao Zhongkai will create a pressure group of members of the KMT that are more left-leaning (not necessarily communist, can be sindicalist, anarchist, councilist... or just more left-leaning than the avergae KMT) than the rest and want to keep and expand democracy, called the Revolutionary Comitee of the KMT. Naturally, if a right-wing pressure group forms, it will be allowed, but watched in case it has something to do with the Right-KMT.
- In order to not alienate the anarchist democratic groups, the anarchists that were chased out of Guangzhou by the Japanese invasion (in OTL they where chased out by the KMT, but since no order like that was given, and no internal repression has been done, I'm assuming they were still in their spaces) will be allowed to return to the neighbourhoods that they controlled, as long as they continue to pay their taxes. This will also be used to keep the anarchist members of the KMT (examples: 1, 2, 3, 4) in it and happy, as their influential relationship with the Chinese student education groups in Tokyo and Paris will allow for more chinese to be sent to study there, and more knowledge to be sent to China.
- If the Right-KMT does not participate in the elections, they shall be lambasted due to their little love of democracy and Chinese unity.
5. Have Tang Shaoyi negotiate with all powers outside of China for more trade deals and greater investment: (Tang Shaoyi)
- Conditions for the investment will be made welcoming, with slightly lower taxes and tarriffs (if you invest) for this year.
-Negotiations with the Soviet Union shall be continued now that they can, with aid being asked for once again, in this case for experts in the mechanization of agriculture, aid for the creation of railways and train engines and constructing civilian industry, the selling/gifting of spare artillery, airplanes, trucks... And as always, officers to teach at Whampoa. Offer raw materials, food, and whatever China can supply that they are in need of (not workers).
6. Now that the war is over, the armaments industry must be reformed:
-- Standardize small arms production, choosing the Howell as the rifle for the Army (and, though at second-place, also for the militias), while other rifles are given to the militias or kept in storage (in cities/fortified towns) when they are no longer needed.
-- Reform the armaments industry to ensure the reliability of its production, especially ammunition.
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@Dadarian
- Does the Left-KMT have the ability to create railroads?
- Is there a lot of unemployment in KMT China? That is, would industrial production suffer due to lack of manpower once the new labor rights are in, or would the only new problem be a much higher cost?
- Can the Left-KMT communicate with its part of Sichuan, and the Right-KMT with Jianxi province (held by a warlord)?
-Does Manchuria (the part given to Japan) include the territory Xueliang still holds?
- Just to make sure: will the Japanese abandon Canton after the peace is accepted?
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- Ural, Russia, Earth
"Today they gave up Manchuria, tomorrow they'll give up YOU!"
Truly, the Qing proved their cowardice and callous disregard for the People's strife, just as Communists predicted.
The CPC says "No peace for the agressor!" The war will continue until the last Japanese soldier leaves the Chinese soil...
...or until the last Communist militiaman dies. Whatever comes first.
Now, when I think about it, it may be beneficial to accept the loss, make sure the brunt of the blame lies on the Qing and concentrate on the Right-KMT.
Truly, the Qing proved their cowardice and callous disregard for the People's strife, just as Communists predicted.
The CPC says "No peace for the agressor!" The war will continue until the last Japanese soldier leaves the Chinese soil...
...or until the last Communist militiaman dies. Whatever comes first.
Now, when I think about it, it may be beneficial to accept the loss, make sure the brunt of the blame lies on the Qing and concentrate on the Right-KMT.
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- Meycauayan, Bulacan, Philippines
@Dadarian, what happened to the Saltern? The ridiculously easy to establish Saltern?
What happened to the books and compasses from Chiang Kai Shek?
What happened to passing intelligence to the KMT?
What happened to the renaming of the Shanghai Tong into the Zhuhai Tong?
What happened to the Taiwan based Shanghai Tong?
What happened to the Tong spy network in the Qing Empire? Did the Zhuhai Tong get any intel from inside the Empire?
What happened to recruiting from Zhuhai? How many joined? How many women joined?
How many prostitutes do the brothel have? How many of them are Tong members?
Did the Zhuhai Tong attend Sun's funeral procession? Zhongshan is the neighboring town to the north of Zhuhai.
What happened to all the M1819 Hall Rifles made by the KMT?
What happened to the books and compasses from Chiang Kai Shek?
What happened to passing intelligence to the KMT?
What happened to the renaming of the Shanghai Tong into the Zhuhai Tong?
What happened to the Taiwan based Shanghai Tong?
What happened to the Tong spy network in the Qing Empire? Did the Zhuhai Tong get any intel from inside the Empire?
What happened to recruiting from Zhuhai? How many joined? How many women joined?
How many prostitutes do the brothel have? How many of them are Tong members?
Did the Zhuhai Tong attend Sun's funeral procession? Zhongshan is the neighboring town to the north of Zhuhai.
What happened to all the M1819 Hall Rifles made by the KMT?
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- Denmark
It seems that prince Chun did a decent job this turn, though I will admit that attempting to change the emperors education, when he is a adult, is not the most promising venture. I find it kind of funny, that it is Qing China that negotiation a peace with Japan, yet they are one of the only factions not to be at war with Japan.
I made my first version of prince Chuns next plan and I would love some constructive criticism on it. Do you have any good ideas to deal with Qings warlords or do you have any good ideas for improving Qings industry or any other ideas of how my plan good be better?
@Dadarian How well did prince Chun do with the western powers? Since you did not write about it, then I am assuming that it was not a overwhelming succes, but I would still love to know more about it. Also, how do the emperor fell about Changsa-KMT and the Fengtian Clique? I would love to avoid making the same mistake I made with Cao Kun. And lastly, what is the big different between what is showed as Qing China on the map and what is showed as Qing Qing-aligned Warlords?
[X] Prince Chun
-[X] Yes, prince Chun recognize the peace deal.
-[X] Plan: Lets become a real tiger
I made my first version of prince Chuns next plan and I would love some constructive criticism on it. Do you have any good ideas to deal with Qings warlords or do you have any good ideas for improving Qings industry or any other ideas of how my plan good be better?
@Dadarian How well did prince Chun do with the western powers? Since you did not write about it, then I am assuming that it was not a overwhelming succes, but I would still love to know more about it. Also, how do the emperor fell about Changsa-KMT and the Fengtian Clique? I would love to avoid making the same mistake I made with Cao Kun. And lastly, what is the big different between what is showed as Qing China on the map and what is showed as Qing Qing-aligned Warlords?
[X] Prince Chun
-[X] Yes, prince Chun recognize the peace deal.
-[X] Plan: Lets become a real tiger
- Prince Chun attempts to tie the warlords closer to the emperor and the central government in an attempt to minimize internal division in Qing China. This includes Fengtian Clique and its leader Zhang Xueliang, whom Prince Chun invites back to the imperial court. He will also try to get in contact with the upper members of the Cliques the warlords leads, so that he also can attempt to create loyalty amongst them.
- Prince Chun attempts to make contact with different warlords and representatives of Kunming-KMT China to see if there was a potential for a temporal alliance against Changsa-KMT China and the communists. While doing that prince Chun will also see if any of the warlords would be willing to shift side and swear loyalty to the emperor.
- Prince Chun continues to cleanse the bureaucracy of the incompetent and disloyal, with his goal being to create a loyal, competent, streamlined and modern bureaucracy.
- Prince Chun will attempt to improve the military situation of Qing in three different ways. The first way, is to continue improving the Imperial Guard with an focus on it being the elite core of the Imperial Army. The second way, is by starting to raise regular troops as part of a new command lead by loyal officers, which will be responsible for guarding the part of Qing, which are not under the control of a warlord. Since the biggest threat towards Qing is the KMT, then they are meant to primarily guard border towards them, especially the border to C-KMT. The third way, is that Prince Chun will work on creating a central command to increase the ability for the different armies to work together. Wu Peifu, as a marshal of Qing, will of course a part of central command group of generals, who will lead the Imperial Army. Prince Chun will also invite Zhang Xueliang and his veteran soldiers from the Fengtian Clique to help train both the Imperial Guard and the new garrison troops, and to help establish a central command.
- Prince Chun attempts to start the modernization of Qing China with the focus on improving and expanding the industry, especially the military industry, the infrastructure and the education system. Prince Chun will invite experts from Fengtian Clique to help with the industrialization process. The improvements of education in Qing China ought to be inspired by the western universities, especially its knowledge about the natural sciences. The infrastructure improvements are to be focused on the connection between the different industrial areas and the raw ressource extraction areas, with a secondary focus on supply lines for the military.
- Prince Chun will attempt to create better connections to the western powers, especially Germany, while feeling out the possibility of a stronger working relationship in the hope of getting support for modernization of Qing both in areas of general industrialization and in the modernization of the armed forces, including the army, navy and perhaps even an airforce.
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- Canada
unless I'm looking at the wrong spot the Fengtian Clique has a tan colour
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Passing Flan 布丁魔王
- Location
- Anywhere but RL
[X] Zhang Xueliang
-[x] Yes, bitterly accept Qing throne's negotiated peace
-[x] Square zero
-[x] Yes, bitterly accept Qing throne's negotiated peace
-[x] Square zero
- Negotiate with Prince regent for faction survival and mutual cooperation. Zhang faction will exchange military and industrial development know-how for everything that it needs. Emperor, and the Prince regent by extension, will be guiding the direction of Zhang's political weight.
- Continue military modernization and reward the military for loyalty. Welcome the German officers officially and sound them out about sending more officers for massive expansion of Fengtian military academy; they, their support staff, and family are of course paid salary and given visa equivalent.
- Send out international invitations and hiring advertisements for expansion of the Zuolin technical university and additional branches in medical and civil developments. (Xu Shichang's job)
- Work with the business and industry for investment and upgrades for Zhang enclaves' industrial sector and further cooperation with Germans. Focus will be on producing more advanced weapons and improving effectiveness of existing weapons. Flood non-Wu militaries within Qing with cheap and old weapons, sold at rate slightly above cost.
- Work with the business, military, and industry to setup the Zhang industrial investment and development corporation. Hire/invite the loyal but now poor business and industrial people into the fold. This corporation will make money by investing into Qing's budding industry as well as providing consultation services for industrial development and selling industrial goods. Investment and development consultation services will be limited to Qing and foreign entity for the time being, this means Wu faction, Japan, USSR, and groups the Emperor doesn't like are declined. Industrial goods can be said to include weapons and ammunition, buyer will not be checked but have to pay in cash or cash equivalent.
- Conduct public relationship campaign, ensuring all personnel worked and working for Fengtian clique had and will continue to be paid and taken care for. Reinforce their love and loyalty for Zhang Xueliang with mentions of promises kept and vow that Xueliang will lead them back to Manchuria with their head held high. (Xu Shichang's job)
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