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A Champion in Earth Bet [Worm/Original Setting]

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Anaja said:
The whole point is to stop them from getting ready, prevent their preparations and build up, and to engage them on our terms rather than their own.
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Pretty much, yes.
Jack Slash has known this fight was coming for a while, and has been spending weeks trying to juggle two goals - "stay ahead of the manhunt" and "prepare for the Slaughterhouse's grand finale". Every single time you guys have elected to hunt down the Nine, it effectively removed one of the nasty surprises he was hoping to spring on you by the end.
That doesn't mean there won't be nasty surprises. Both Jack and the Simurgh made sure of that.
But it does mean, there'll be far less than in the worst-case scenario.
 
[X][Bastion] The PRT can lose important political capital no matter what it does. See if you can convince Bastion to save them the trouble and do the responsible thing himself.
Let's see if he has any integrity left.

[X][Guild] Focus efforts on the Slaughterhouse Nine. Forcing them into a final battle early denies them further chances to prepare and gather forces.
They need to be engaged on our terms and not theirs. Theirs costs too many lives.

[X][Guild] Take further shots at the Novo Império cartel - the other Brazilian cartels will smell blood in the water and focus on their weakened rival, rather than on your own efforts with the Brasilia government.
The government needs time to stabilize. Let's grant it.

[X][Avatar] Spend extra time on Guild work, whichever missions the Guild goes for.
 
sun tzu said:
As far as your quick research into the matter suggests, Bastion probably doesn't have the virulence and hatred one might find in members of the Freedom Congress, Empire 88, or other such groups. Rather, his is the more subdued bigotry of people who assign far more of a human's inclinations and abilities to ethnicity than is reasonable, unthinkingly treats those different as uniform members of their category rather than individuals, resents being required to be polite while decrying it as "political correctness", and assume that he they are "good guys" because there are people out there who are far worse.
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Ah, so he's got several markers of the 'authoritarian personality'. Not optimal?

Also, I forget - is this the story where the Three Blasphemies are from another Earth, and are assassinating public figures for crimes committed by the iterations of them in the Blasphemies' plane of origin but not necessarily the ones they're targeting?
 
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GardenerBriareus said:
Also, I forget - is this the story where the Three Blasphemies are from another Earth, and are assassinating public figures for crimes committed by the iterations of them in the Blasphemies' plane of origin but not necessarily the ones they're targeting?
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Nope.
This is the story where the Three Blasphemies are three bio-Tinkers who, working together, figured out how to grant themselves the powers of other parahumans by taking parts of their brains and grafting them to themselves.
 
dcd said:
Those things were a clear and present danger to all of humanity(other than the Japanese ultranationalists,possibly,but their plans would stillhave been immensly destructive).
Don't read too much into it.I'm simply concerned the Avatar might end up deciding the best way to protect humanity is to institute some sort of police state.
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So jumping in with the others i find it really weird that when its time for the Avatar to move against the neo-nazi organization that you are concerned about the Avatar interfering in human affairs despite all the interfing in human affairs he has already done.
 
Looks like we have a consensus on hunting the Slaughterhouse Nine and talking to Bastion, but some disagreement on whether the Guild should begin laying the foundations of a war with Gesellschaft or continue its war with Novo Império, and whether the Avatar should spend extra time in Mexico or in Belo Horizonte.
Vote stays open for a while longer.
 
I would recommend that we wait just a little longer before starting a fight with Gesellschaft. They aren't going anywhere, but if we keep the cartels busy with a power struggle then Brazil will be less likely to need us to intervene again. Granted, they might still need or ask for some help, but they're probably not going to need our help, because they'll have been able to solidly regain their footing and stability.
 
One would argue in favor of Belo Horizonte and the Novo Imperio cartel. The situation in South America is far from stable, and the steps taken thus far are nothing more than the starting phase. Neglecting it now could well cause the state of affairs to regress to its previous level. Furthermore, the efforts in Africa are nowhere near complete. The situation there is far from ideal. With the Guild already dividing attention between these two long-term projects, adding the Gesellschaft now does entail a risk of overextending. Stop, consolidate, and once the circumstances in Africa and South America are on firmer ground, then open the third front regarding Gesellschaft.
 
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The cartels in Brazil and Gesellschaft are both problems, but they're not the same immediate problems to demand our attention.

Gesellschaft is terrible and horrible, but they don't seem to be up to anything especially terrible outside of their norm. The same awful evil as usual, and maybe slightly less effectively since the European Brigade has improved a bit since we showed up.

The cartels need to be handled now though. We just shook up Brazil, and now it's settling into a new norm of our creation. We took this on ourselves, and we now have a duty to see it go as well as we can. It's not our eternal responsibility, but it is for the moment. Let's do this right.
 
Anaja said:
Gesellschaft is terrible and horrible, but they don't seem to be up to anything especially terrible outside of their norm. The same awful evil as usual, and maybe slightly less effectively since the European Brigade has improved a bit since we showed up.
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I think it depends on how much the European Brigade has improved (which I'm not sure of), but you do make a good point otherwise. Not planning on changing my vote, but now I'm less certain about it.
 
[X][Bastion] The PRT can lose important political capital no matter what it does. See if you can convince Bastion to save them the trouble and do the responsible thing himself.
[X][Guild] Focus efforts on the Slaughterhouse Nine. Forcing them into a final battle early denies them further chances to prepare and gather forces.
[X][Guild] Try to recruit more South-American heroes to work with Brasilia's government.
[X][Avatar] Help with mankind's space programs. It's a symbol of hope and progress.

We'd be the most likely to convince Bastion of what needs to be done, The Slaughterhouse is obvious, more South-American heroes to take up the slack is always good, and Bet really needs to not have all its eggs in one basket.
 
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[X][Bastion] The PRT can lose important political capital no matter what it does. See if you can convince Bastion to save them the trouble and do the responsible thing himself.

[X][Guild] Focus efforts on the Slaughterhouse Nine. Forcing them into a final battle early denies them further chances to prepare and gather forces.

[X][Guild] Take further shots at the Novo Império cartel - the other Brazilian cartels will smell blood in the water and focus on their weakened rival, rather than on your own efforts with the Brasilia government.

[X][Avatar] Spend extra time on Guild work, whichever missions the Guild goes for.
 
GhostAngel21 said:
That...is a very good point sir. Shoot, I didn't even think about that. Can we get an update? How well prepared is the European Brigade?
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Well, it currently has associate members in the strongest ice cape in Italy, a rising star Tinker, some of the most famous independents in Paris, a quasi-invulnerable villain who wants to turn his life around, and is in talks with gaining assistance with France's A-team and Triumvirate/Pentagon equivalent. So assuming that last one goes through, I'd say pretty darn well.
 
storysmith112358 said:
Well, it currently has associate members in the strongest ice cape in Italy, a rising star Tinker, some of the most famous independents in Paris, a quasi-invulnerable villain who wants to turn his life around, and is in talks with gaining assistance with France's A-team and Triumvirate/Pentagon equivalent. So assuming that last one goes through, I'd say pretty darn well.
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Ok, as far as things go, that's pretty good. But what i'm slightly worried about is, how cohesive are they? Do they function and work well together, that kinda thing, Having so many A-Listers won't mean much if we can't properly utilize them in a working strike force.
 
[X][Bastion] You're not in charge of the PRT, and the PRT wouldn't like you overstepping your authority. Best to trust them to handle it.

[X][Guild] Focus efforts on the Slaughterhouse Nine. Forcing them into a final battle early denies them further chances to prepare and gather forces.
[X][Guild] Begin working toward the Gesellschaft's downfall - the organization nurtures white supremacist gangs across several continents.

[X][Avatar] Help with mankind's space programs. It's a symbol of hope and progress.
 
[X][Bastion] The PRT can lose important political capital no matter what it does. See if you can convince Bastion to save them the trouble and do the responsible thing himself.

[X][Guild] Focus efforts on the Slaughterhouse Nine. Forcing them into a final battle early denies them further chances to prepare and gather forces.

[X][Guild] Take further shots at the Novo Império cartel - the other Brazilian cartels will smell blood in the water and focus on their weakened rival, rather than on your own efforts with the Brasilia government.

[X][Avatar] Spend extra time on Guild work, whichever missions the Guild goes for.
 
BelligerentGnu said:
Hey, @sun tzu, random curiosity question - how might the Madame Lustucru operation have played out if we'd picked BBR?
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On one hand, Bleu-Blanc-Rouge wouldn't have been able to gather information in person like the Avatar did.
On the other hand, he'd have seen the "cause as much horrific damage as possible" plan coming from a mile away and prepared for it. He'd have arranged the Guild in proper position to intercept Cache-Cache and dismantle the traps, as well as take out Lustucru without really giving her a chance to fight back.
 
sun tzu said:
he'd have seen the "cause as much horrific damage as possible" plan coming from a mile away and prepared for it.
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sun tzu said:
He'd have arranged the Guild in proper position to intercept Cache-Cache and dismantle the traps, as well as take out Lustucru without really giving her a chance to fight back.
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It's interesting to note how diverse and useful each and every one of the Champions are. They're all like unique pieces on a chess board. Each one with its own purpose and strengths that can be used in a scenario and acheieve victory with its own means. While BBR is by no means the most poweful, he is easily the most tactical, and that makes up for his lack of sheer firepower. And he's nothing to sneeze at in a fight either. While he's not the type to blow up Endbringers, he's more so the guy to come up with a complex multi-layered plan, throw a grenade, defeat 50 guys, tare down their artillery, slice up their tanks, and then have the grenade explode. He's a one man army, and a part of me is really curious to know what a fight between him and Jack of All Trades would be like.
 
I don't think I could do that fight justice without a lot of effort, but Bleu-Blanc-Rouge and Jack Of All Trades definitely have faced against each other at least once, and very likely more than that.
 
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