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A Catgirl's Last Chance for High School Romance - COMPLETE

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Votes are pretty heftily in favor of the 'angry' option, and I get that, I really do, but I also want to urge people to reconsider. Is it worth trying to reason with someone unreasonable? Probably not. Is Mom being an emotionally abusive fuckhead? Absolutely. But after how the rest of the day went, I think Hanako's in a good enough place to be able and willing to take the moderate option, and not likely to want to ruin said day. If @Artificial Girl is allowing write-ins here, plan logiccosmic seems like the best way to go; either she submits to the logic of our argument and we get to go, (yes this means we have to keep putting up with her BS later, but pick your battles and all that) or she remains stubborn but with the shaky ground she stands on exposed. Plus, dad is an influencing factor, and he may be more likely to take our side if we aren't blowing up at everything. It's not quite a win-win, but we're certainly going to get to keep the moral high ground and be more likely to succeed than if we give in to rage.

The anger is deserved, to be sure, but we've still got too much to lose right now. Better to give her plenty of rope to hang herself with than get dragged down to her level.

AKuz said:
I just want to mention that HOLY SHIT, AKANE IS THE BEST GIRL, and a true bro friend.
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Amen, Akane is a treasure!
 
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[x] No. Hanako, stay calm. You have to be reasonable about this. Just... try and explain it to her. You already made a commitment and you need to keep it. You're sorry if you'll miss your grandparents this year but you told Live Out Loud you'd be there and you can't unreliable. Surely she'll listen to reason.
 
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[X] No. Hanako, stay calm. You have to be reasonable about this. Just... try and explain it to her. You already made a commitment and you need to keep it. You're sorry if you'll miss your grandparents this year but you told Live Out Loud you'd be there and you can't unreliable. Surely she'll listen to reason.
 
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It's been pointed out already, but there is no 'correct' option here. If Hanako gets angry, she's 'being irrational'. If she tries to explain it calmly, she 'clearly doesn't care all that much'. If she agrees with her mother, her mother straight-up wins.

So, uh, I haven't actually experienced this situation before but it's been described to me before and I'm finding a bit difficult to actuslly vote on it...
 
PhDEevee said:
It's been pointed out already, but there is no 'correct' option here. If Hanako gets angry, she's 'being irrational'. If she tries to explain it calmly, she 'clearly doesn't care all that much'. If she agrees with her mother, her mother straight-up wins.

So, uh, I haven't actually experienced this situation before but it's been described to me before and I'm finding a bit difficult to actuslly vote on it...
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Personal experience is why I went with calm. A blow up is just going to be used to get us in trouble with dad and dismissed.

We can dance around 'clearly doesn't care that much' - we've got ways to maneuver. Blowing up is a head on attack against an entrenched position, unless we go SL2. If we can hit SL2 we've got 3 solid minutes where we can faceroll Momjin Buu.
 
After a little while have rethought my vote
[X] No. Hanako, stay calm. You have to be reasonable about this. Just... try and explain it to her. You already made a commitment and you need to keep it. You're sorry if you'll miss your grandparents this year but you told Live Out Loud you'd be there and you can't unreliable. Surely she'll listen to reason.
 
[X] No. Hanako, stay calm. You have to be reasonable about this. Just... try and explain it to her. You already made a commitment and you need to keep it. You're sorry if you'll miss your grandparents this year but you told Live Out Loud you'd be there and you can't unreliable. Surely she'll listen to reason.
 
[x] No. Hanako, stay calm. You have to be reasonable about this. Just... try and explain it to her. You already made a commitment and you need to keep it. You're sorry if you'll miss your grandparents this year but you told Live Out Loud you'd be there and you can't unreliable. Surely she'll listen to reason.


Alright, yes, she is going to pull bullshit with us, she is going to have an answer for everything we bring up to counter her arguments and go for an emotional argument and guilt trip. Discuss and stall until either dad gets home, because its obvious she did this without consulting him, or she blows up from your own stubbornness preferably in front of dad.
 
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[x] No. Hanako, stay calm. You have to be reasonable about this. Just... try and explain it to her. You already made a commitment and you need to keep it. You're sorry if you'll miss your grandparents this year but you told Live Out Loud you'd be there and you can't unreliable. Surely she'll listen to reason.
-[x] No Mom - I can't miss this. You said 'you were thinking.' Sounds like it's pretty up in the air, and it's not like it's not too early to reschedule our visit. They aren't going to be offended if we have to move it, they love us.
-[x] Use: Counterguilt - Keeping your word is important too. I promised them, and they are counting on me to make it. I don't want to be someone people can't rely on! That'd really hurt my friends.

Being angry when dad is available is plan B.
 
Artificial Girl said:
Also Osamu arrives in costume is looking for you in the front room, so the two of you come piling out, you looking embarrassed and Erika a little flushed but nothing too obvious. You hope.
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Abort Abort they all know everyone knows mom's going to know

Also, this is so obviously a ploy on her part; I'm a little disappointed that she's this bad at it.

[X] No. Hanako, stay calm. You have to be reasonable about this. Just... try and explain it to her. You already made a commitment and you need to keep it. You're sorry if you'll miss your grandparents this year but you told Live Out Loud you'd be there and you can't unreliable. Surely she'll listen to reason.

beowolf said:
I can't remember, is this a quest that allows write-ins?
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Artificial Girl said:
It does not.
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And yet, people keep voting for the versions with write-ins tacked on that will split the vote...
 
Is it a bird? Is it a plane? No, it's the other shoe falling on Hanako's head. Thanks Hanako's mom.

Now, what to vote? My first instinct was to vote for trying to reason with mom, then I remembered that Hanako is an emotional teenager and how I would have responded to something like that at that age, with anger. But then I read the other responses that argued in favor of the more moderate refusal because Hanyako has been having a good day and is less likely to loose her temper at mom's bullshit shenanigans. And I guess they convinced me.

[X] No. Hanako, stay calm. You have to be reasonable about this. Just... try and explain it to her. You already made a commitment and you need to keep it. You're sorry if you'll miss your grandparents this year but you told Live Out Loud you'd be there and you can't unreliable. Surely she'll listen to reason.
 
[X] No. Hanako, stay calm. You have to be reasonable about this. Just... try and explain it to her. You already made a commitment and you need to keep it. You're sorry if you'll miss your grandparents this year but you told Live Out Loud you'd be there and you can't unreliable. Surely she'll listen to reason.
 
[X] No. Hanako, stay calm. You have to be reasonable about this. Just... try and explain it to her. You already made a commitment and you need to keep it. You're sorry if you'll miss your grandparents this year but you told Live Out Loud you'd be there and you can't unreliable. Surely she'll listen to reason.
 
[X] No. Hanako, stay calm. You have to be reasonable about this. Just... try and explain it to her. You already made a commitment and you need to keep it. You're sorry if you'll miss your grandparents this year but you told Live Out Loud you'd be there and you can't unreliable. Surely she'll listen to reason.
 
[X] No. Hanako, stay calm. You have to be reasonable about this. Just... try and explain it to her. You already made a commitment and you need to keep it. You're sorry if you'll miss your grandparents this year but you told Live Out Loud you'd be there and you can't unreliable. Surely she'll listen to reason.
-[X] No Mom - I can't miss this. You said 'you were thinking.' Sounds like it's pretty up in the air, and it's not like it's not too early to reschedule our visit. They aren't going to be offended if we have to move it, they love us.
-[X] Use: Counterguilt - Keeping your word is important too. I promised them, and they are counting on me to make it. I don't want to be someone people can't rely on! That'd really hurt my friends.
 
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Artificial Girl said:
I should note that write-in votes aren't accepted unless specifically noted. Like I get the desire to try and add some more detail to the vote options but unless specified, please refrain from doing so.
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Rather than marking it as Policy, how about something like Policy: No Write-In? That way, it'd be obvious with one glance at the threadmark!

(well, two. Or three. Gotta switch tab after all)
 
[X] You're angry. God, you are so angry. You were having a good day up until now and now she has to spring THIS crap on you? You're going on the camping trip and you don't care about going to visit your grandparents or about being the good kid! You're tired of being the good kid. You already made plans and she's not going to take that away from you!

I'm angry, sorry if it was me in this kind of situation I could not help getting angry, no matter the kind of day I had. You peopleft are underestimating how strongly mood can shift in an instant. There's no other vote I can give.
 
[X] You're angry. God, you are so angry. You were having a good day up until now and now she has to spring THIS crap on you? You're going on the camping trip and you don't care about going to visit your grandparents or about being the good kid! You're tired of being the good kid. You already made plans and she's not going to take that away from you!

 
[X] No. Hanako, stay calm. You have to be reasonable about this. Just... try and explain it to her. You already made a commitment and you need to keep it. You're sorry if you'll miss your grandparents this year but you told Live Out Loud you'd be there and you can't unreliable. Surely she'll listen to reason.
 
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