Doomed Wombat
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The Long Night Part One: Embers in the Dusk: A Planetary Governor Quest (43k) Complete Sequel Up
- Thread starter Durin
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- madison
I have no idea what you mean by CR damage number, and that mess of a formula scares and confuses me. so I'm just going to slot 20 and up armor as something to hit with a spinal accelerator.
Doomed Wombat
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It does say certain chance, but never underestimate the idiocy of the single minded.
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- Sweden
Depends, does memetic Imperium accept bad luck as an excuse for failure? Still, they might fail their insight check horrible and go crusading against the nearest Eldar instead.
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Doomed Wombat
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Shard
One and Many
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- Malaysia
@Durin
1. Is a write-in target of 'Targets of Opportunity' a valid one? Basically we just try to get the best casualty ratios we can. I imagine this would be the Light Fleet First.
2. The bonii difference between Subtle and Blatant, is it like +100, +200, etc.
3. How does Rotbart estimate the outcome of the final naval battle above Avernus, with the current fleet numbers?
(Looking it things it looks like we're kind of vastly and horribly outnumbered, though I might be wrong.)
4. Is it possible, with the blatant option, for them to not realize we have their entire battleplans anyway?
a. And if they realize, to stick with the plans anyway? (per Horatio)
b. They'd be disorganized if they changed or abandoned their plans? (per Horatio)
5. Ridcully is presumably still providing Divination support?
1. Is a write-in target of 'Targets of Opportunity' a valid one? Basically we just try to get the best casualty ratios we can. I imagine this would be the Light Fleet First.
2. The bonii difference between Subtle and Blatant, is it like +100, +200, etc.
3. How does Rotbart estimate the outcome of the final naval battle above Avernus, with the current fleet numbers?
(Looking it things it looks like we're kind of vastly and horribly outnumbered, though I might be wrong.)
4. Is it possible, with the blatant option, for them to not realize we have their entire battleplans anyway?
a. And if they realize, to stick with the plans anyway? (per Horatio)
b. They'd be disorganized if they changed or abandoned their plans? (per Horatio)
5. Ridcully is presumably still providing Divination support?
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- Berkeley
Guys.
One thing to remember is just how scary our orbital defenses are. I recall a single defense station being favorably compared to a battle ship, and we have a lot of them with proportional support at the lower size levels. On top of that we have our mobile navy, our tech edge, a tiny minefield, and support fire from the very significant anti-orbital weapons on our cities. Plus their plans, insanely talented commanders, and the best mortal Seer in the galaxy there to ensure that they're going to be trading ships at a worse ratio than raw strength numbers suggest.
One thing to remember is just how scary our orbital defenses are. I recall a single defense station being favorably compared to a battle ship, and we have a lot of them with proportional support at the lower size levels. On top of that we have our mobile navy, our tech edge, a tiny minefield, and support fire from the very significant anti-orbital weapons on our cities. Plus their plans, insanely talented commanders, and the best mortal Seer in the galaxy there to ensure that they're going to be trading ships at a worse ratio than raw strength numbers suggest.
Shard
One and Many
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- Malaysia
They have A LOT of numbers to throw into the grindfest.
Shard
One and Many
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- Malaysia
[X] Plan Wreck the Fleet
-[X] Medium- use everything but your armored warships to inflict as much damage as possible via ambushes and harassment tactics, be willing to accept some major clashes- This will inflict a significant amount of damage and not need Admiral Sarnow to be too blatant about using the information that Ridcully is providing him.
-[X] Primary: Light Forces- The Light forces will be those that are trying to seek out your ambushes, and so will be the easiest targets. - Attacking the Light forces will be the easiest option and will reduce the Abomination Fleets ablity to deal with future harassment.
-[X] Secondary: Targets of Opportunity - Try to cause as much damage as possible to the Abomination's overall navy, at the best possible casualty ratios.
-[X] Make blatant of the information that Ridcully has gained form the enemies plans- Massive bonus and certain chance of them realising you have the plans.
So, here's the logic.
They have A LOT of ships, ships that are defending transports, etc. We should be maximizing casualty ratios in our favor.
-[X] Medium- use everything but your armored warships to inflict as much damage as possible via ambushes and harassment tactics, be willing to accept some major clashes- This will inflict a significant amount of damage and not need Admiral Sarnow to be too blatant about using the information that Ridcully is providing him.
-[X] Primary: Light Forces- The Light forces will be those that are trying to seek out your ambushes, and so will be the easiest targets. - Attacking the Light forces will be the easiest option and will reduce the Abomination Fleets ablity to deal with future harassment.
-[X] Secondary: Targets of Opportunity - Try to cause as much damage as possible to the Abomination's overall navy, at the best possible casualty ratios.
-[X] Make blatant of the information that Ridcully has gained form the enemies plans- Massive bonus and certain chance of them realising you have the plans.
So, here's the logic.
They have A LOT of ships, ships that are defending transports, etc. We should be maximizing casualty ratios in our favor.
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HanEmpire
Delicious
The Orbital Defences won't amount to much here because the Abominationists are headed to Avernus proper. Our concentration of void defences is at Deiphobe, and what's over Avernus is going to get rolled over real quick.
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- Alice Springs, Australia
pretty much advance to Avernus, clear the defences and land armies. then have some of the fleet escort the transports out of the system for the second wave while the rest maintain position above Avernus
1. yes
2. closer to +100
3. that your fleet would be either wiped out or driven back but not before inflicting massive damage, while horribly out numbered you have a tech advantage which helps. as do orbital defences and cities.
4. yes, they could think that you are predicting them at every step by another method. a traitor perhaps.
a. that is a possiblity depending on the General
b. yes they would be
5. he is, and if they make new plans there is a good chance he will get those to. he is pretty much an Abomination Fleets worst nightmare in situation requiring complex tactics. when their plans can be summed up as charge or hold there is little that he can do
Doomed Wombat
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@Durin
1. Will he also be providing rerolls/boni to the raiding fleet? He could in against Garkill so I imagine that would be the case here.
2. How do one of our Defence Cruisers compare weight wise? Heavy Cruiser Battlecruiser?
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- Berkeley
Might be fun to have the stealth elements sucker-punch the transports on their way out. Will almost certainly be easier to get close to them (especially if we manage to do disproportionate damage to their light elements) and might end up forcing them to face defeat in detail with their fleet.
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- Brazil
Wouldn't it be much bette to slay many billions of invaders while still in their transports? Especially their bullshit possessed Titan Legion?
Their objective is to kill Saint Lin. Why are you focusing on their warships? They are disposable.
Doomed Wombat
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Presumably its so our cities can focus fire on the transports while they're coming in and reduce the amount of Orbital bombardment they can do and allow our fleet to get more raiding on.
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- Asia
Shit, there is a second wave ?
Okay, we gotta take out those transports and Mass Conveyors.
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- madison
I think we underestimated just how large their fleet was, though thankfully orbital bombardment is super nerfed.
Shard
One and Many
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- Malaysia
Altered my vote.
Their objective, though, is to defend their transports as best as possible. By destroying those distracted defenders, we'll make it easier to destroy those transports later.
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- Asia
[X] Plan: Priorities
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- Someplace USA
Ya limiting them to their really heavy combatants might be a pain in terms of orbital control but keeping a second wave away is more important especially as if they do try and rage quite via battleship ram Avernus will give fucks.