Any-hoo, I'm gonna start writing up the Perks for Sable, but in the meantime we've got one last section...

Extras.

This is where everything else that isn't mechanical comes into play-- because believe me, there's still some stuff Sable's gonna need before he's finished. First things first, as with his fellows, Phenom Sable needs Motivation. A Motivation is... well, I really don't need to explain it. You all know what it is. There's no real mechanical benefit, it just looks cool.
[ ] Write-in Phenom's Motivation

Next up, colour scheme. Jaegers need a distinctive look to them, and Phenom's no exception. After all, what would Romeo Blue be without its distinctive blue, or Crimson Typhoon if it weren't red? Phenom also belongs to those jaegers with a colour in their name, so this is partially already nailed down. Still, there's a bit of give.
What's Phenom Sable going to look like?
[ ] Dark brown-grey, like his name says
[ ] Some other muted, greyish colour (specify which)
[ ] Pitch black
[ ] Other (write-in)

You can also add in what you'd want as secondary colours or markings.


Third off, you're gonna need a theme song. Because, well, giant robot wrestler.
[ ] Write-in (Make sure it's suitably awesome)

Finally, if you can think of any other distinguishing features I've missed, feel free to write them in here.
[ ] Write-in
[ ] Nothing else needed

And that'll be it, and I can fully write up Part 2 of the Downtime posts.
 
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Yay! Now we can stop arguing over pretty much completely subjective things!

So, what more do we think we'll need for establishing a second city? I'm guessing enough resources to build portals between the two locations, and the necessary generators, and maybe some walls, defensive rail-guns, etc.
resources for the transport, and enough to upgrade the city stats to something other than nothing. Also we'll need to decide which Jaeger we're stationing there as its home base.
 
[X] Motivation: Bear Hug All Kaiju...TO DEATH!

[X] Pitch Black w/Bright shiny Silver highlights, accents, and markings

I have a gut feeling that tells me there's definitely something we need for other distinguishing features, but I'm not quite sure what that is right now...

So, what more do we think we'll need for establishing a second city? I'm guessing enough resources to build portals between the two locations, and the necessary generators, and maybe some walls, defensive rail-guns, etc.

I'm inclined to think that before we establish a second city, first we need to 1) Get Phenom Sable at least up to max Mk III status and 2) Kill the Mt. St. Helens Breach.

But yes, we also need a breachgate system between the two cities, some kind of power setup, and probably some kind of shatterdome (because ideal scenario is we have one Jaeger at one location and two Jaegers at the other in case both are attacked at the same time).
 
[ ] Write-in Phenom's Motivation
[e]Motivation: CHOKESLAM THE APOCALYPSE

[ ] Some other muted, greyish colour (specify which)
[x] Colors: Charcoal Grey, silver highlights.

Finally, if you can think of any other distinguishing features I've missed, feel free to write them in here.
[] Shoulder decal

for the record, I have a couple other ideas for the shoulder decal if people don't like that one.

Edit: Decal changed after feedback.
[x] Extra Details: Shoulder decal
 
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resources for the transport, and enough to upgrade the city stats to something other than nothing. Also we'll need to decide which Jaeger we're stationing there as its home base.
Do we really need to station a Jaeger there, if we have a working portal between the locations? Deploying via the portal should work fine. I thought that was the whole point of researching such a thing.
I'm inclined to think that before we establish a second city, first we need to 1) Get Phenom Sable at least up to max Mk III status and 2) Kill the Mt. St. Helens Breach.
...Why? Making Phenom stronger I get (though I think requiring him to match our current Jaegers is a bit much) , but why do we need to kill the Breach? I would think that more than enough Kaiju have come through it to keep us busy even after it's been shut down. Not to mention the possibility of additional Kaiju being born/created in Anteformed areas (terraformed, but for Anteverse life).

I don't think destroying the portal would decrease the number of Kaiju we need to handle, but would more likely increase it, at least in the short-term, as the Kaiju Masters try and eliminate us before we can destroy more Breaches. So why should we do that first? Why not get ourselves in a better place, in-terms of firepower, first? Having two cities will greatly aid in increasing our total firepower.
But yes, we also need a breachgate system between the two cities, some kind of power setup, and probably some kind of shatterdome (because ideal scenario is we have one Jaeger at one location and two Jaegers at the other in case both are attacked at the same time).
Unless our scanner techs severely screw the pooch, I think we'll likely have enough time to deploy via portals. I suppose I could be wron, though, and, aside from the cost, I can see deploying a Jaeger out there anyway, just for safety. Not sure I'd call it a hard requirement, though.
 
Do we really need to station a Jaeger there, if we have a working portal between the locations? Deploying via the portal should work fine. I thought that was the whole point of researching such a thing.
Portal works for groundbound cons, not for Jaegers or airforce/navy.

Edit: Wait, no, it's just Jaegers that can't use it.
Generates a stable, shielded, artificial Breach. As long as it is powered, and there is at least one Receiver within 60 kilometers of it, anything of Superheavy size or smaller may pass through the Breach-Gate.

Additionally, the Breach-Gate may link with a single Amplified Receiver. The maximum range of an Amplified Breach-Gate is 85 kilometres.

Requires a Mark III+ Jaeger Reactor (or equivalent) to power it. May be activated or deactivated in an instant.
 
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Oh, you're right! Just let me make one little edit to the post...

That is a good point, thought not what I had in mind.

That said, what qualifies as "suitably awesome"?

Do we really need to station a Jaeger there, if we have a working portal between the locations? Deploying via the portal should work fine. I thought that was the whole point of researching such a thing.

Yes.

Because 1) It means we can always be assured to have at least one at each site in case both cities are attacked at once; 2) We can not afford to assume the Breachgate network is flawless and that it will never suffer any kind of problem when we need it the most.

...Why? Making Phenom stronger I get (though I think requiring him to match our current Jaegers is a bit much) , but why do we need to kill the Breach? I would think that more than enough Kaiju have come through it to keep us busy even after it's been shut down. Not to mention the possibility of additional Kaiju being born/created in Anteformed areas (terraformed, but for Anteverse life).

I don't think destroying the portal would decrease the number of Kaiju we need to handle, but would more likely increase it, at least in the short-term, as the Kaiju Masters try and eliminate us before we can destroy more Breaches. So why should we do that first? Why not get ourselves in a better place, in-terms of firepower, first? Having two cities will greatly aid in increasing our total firepower.

Do you want to give me another, better qualifier of when to actually go after a breach? Something definitive that isn't in the distant, unplannable for future?

Something that will give me reason to not get concerned that we won't develop a thinking that leads to putting off actually killing breaches indefinitely?
 
Anyway, to defend my choice of charcoal grey over black: If/when fyr or whoever manage to put together an "official" lineart for Phenom, I plan on colorizing it like I did for jagd's pic. And grey is just... easier to work with than pitch black. Black doesn't like shadows and highlights much.
 
Portal works for groundbound cons, not for Jaegers or airforce/navy.
...Then we should fix that, because f*ck that noise. At least for airforce and Jaegers. Navy seems a bit more tricky. But I consider 'can send the majority of our forces to either city via portal if attacked' a minimal requirement for building another settlement.
Yes.

Because 1) It means we can always be assured to have at least one at each site in case both cities are attacked at once; 2) We can not afford to assume the Breachgate network is flawless and that it will never suffer any kind of problem when we need it the most.
Yeah, I suppose that's fair enough.
Do you want to give me another, better qualifier of when to actually go after a breach? Something definitive that isn't in the distant, unplannable for future?

Something that will give me reason to not get concerned that we won't develop a thinking that leads to putting off actually killing breaches indefinitely?
Call it...9-to-12 Jaegers available for the action? With...oh, I dunno, three Mark 0's equating to one Jaeger. Maybe 4-to-1 or 5-to-1, depending on how good Mk. 0's actually are. Note that I'm counting any allied Jaegers we can rope into this rodeo. KRAUN's probably good for at least 4 Jaegers. Might be able to get Waltz in on the action, as well, but I won't count on it. Maybe we can pull in the Aussie AI douchebags, but I really, really doubt it.

Look, mate, we can't even handle Oblivion Bay right now. When we're trying a quick raid, not even reconquest. Thinking we can take a Breach with our current Jaegers is under-estimating the Kaiju Masters severely. I assume they're guarding that thing way more than Oblivion Bay. Like, two+ Sword Kaiju. And making a push and failing would be worse than not pushing at all, by a lot. So...

Edit: Having some more intel on the opposing order of battle would probably modify my estimate. As would being able to somehow prevent them from just sending an army through the portal when we're attempting to take it.
 
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...Then we should fix that, because f*ck that noise. At least for airforce and Jaegers. Navy seems a bit more tricky. But I consider 'can send the majority of our forces to either city via portal if attacked' a minimal requirement for building another settlement.
See edit. I double-checked the stats and it works for anything not a Jaeger.

[X] Colors: Metallic black with shiny golden accents.
Two things: Black doesn't come in metallic, and I'd really like to save gold highlights for when I finally achieve my dream and get Revolver Shogun up and running.

I sure do, I even have a few of them. Thank god Syndicate standing is so much easier to farm than Quills standing.

Anyway, the first one is the best of the lot in my opinion, but the sixth works as well.
Better than the one in my current vote?
 
See edit. I double-checked the stats and it works for anything not a Jaeger.
I consider all our land Con's to be equal to...maybe 80% of a Jaeger? So that still leaves the majority of our forces unable to use portals.

...Have we considered sending Jaegers through lying down?
 
Two things: Black doesn't come in metallic, and I'd really like to save gold highlights for when I finally achieve my dream and get Revolver Shogun up and running.
You're gonna make me go looking through car colors just to find the right kind of paint for Phenom ain't ya? :V

I just meant a shiny black that reflects the light in a way that's pleasing to the eye. As for the gold, I just like lots of gold everywhere. I wouldn't mind having two jaegers with gold details. :V

Better than the one in my current vote
Yeah, but I really like your pick as well. For a bunch of edgy bastards, Red Veil has some really good looking emblems.
 
There's a reason we delayed making a second city until after we had a spare Jaeger to station there semi-permanently.
 
There's a reason we delayed making a second city until after we had a spare Jaeger to station there semi-permanently.
Well, yeah. Otherwise, it seems unlikely that we'd have enough forces to effectively protect both it, and Seattle. That doesn't mean we still shouldn't be able to send our Jaegers from one to the other in a reasonable span of time. Sh*t happens.

I honestly don't feel comfortable with having a single Jaeger defend a city, even with conventional back-up. It's damn near having a single point of failure. I'm not even entirely comfortable with just the portals, which are also a single point of failure. Because Murphy is a cruel, unforgiving bastard. I'm mostly only accepting it so we can get Mk 0's, which will help fill the void, and are something I think we really need.

And I wasn't kidding when I asked "have we considered sending them through lying down?" That seems like it could work. Obviously, we'd need some sort of specialized vehicle to do it, but that's a lot easier than enlarging the portal.
 
I think at some point we'll need to bite the bullet and either make a Breachgate capable of transporting the Jaegers or just build a giant railway to carry them there.
Railway would be easier, and the sweet Big O reference would also be worth it.

You guys, your furthest available city is still close enough for support from Seattle to arrive relatively quickly. Can we get some more input of Sable stuff?
 
I honestly don't feel comfortable with having a single Jaeger defend a city, even with conventional back-up. It's damn near having a single point of failure.
TBF, Tacit managed fairly well for quite a while, and our cons have proven themselves quite capable of eating lower category kaiju for breakfast.
 
I think at some point we'll need to bite the bullet and either make a Breachgate capable of transporting the Jaegers or just build a giant railway to carry them there.
What are the dimensions of a Jaeger? And, more specifically, are their shoulders/torso (or widest point, not sure if Jagdwaifu's hips are wider than her shoulders) wider than the portal? If not, hey, look, we could maybe send the through lying down.
Railway would be easier, and the sweet Big O reference would also be worth it.

You guys, your furthest available city is still close enough for support from Seattle to arrive relatively quickly. Can we get some more input of Sable stuff?
Ah, okay. That makes it better. Especially since I assume we're going with the closest one. In that case, I'd be up for building ourselves a maglev train system, or something similar, instead.

And I am terrible at aesthetics. I leave that to people who know what the hell they're doing, thank you. I suppose I could contribute to the theme song, though. Lemme just look at the examples really quick...

Edit: I find your theme songs insufficiently metal. *Begins considering possible Metal Gear Rising: Revengence mixes*.
 
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Railway would be easier, and the sweet Big O reference would also be worth it.

You guys, your furthest available city is still close enough for support from Seattle to arrive relatively quickly.
Relatively quickly, yes, but even with the Meganeura moving at 1.2 Km per turn, that's still between 30 and 60 turns for our Jaegers to arrive in the nearest cities. That's still very fast by most standards and the 'neura is made for endurance over speed, but not quite fast enough if we want to be safe unless we make sure to improve the scanners' range a lot.


It occurs to me that another solution for the response speed problem is to simply improve the Meganeura's speed. Some kind of hypersonic transport Superheavy would be perfect until we can make long-range Breachgates that can transport Jaegers. Hell, if we go the Superheavy route we can probably use the same technology that goes into the Allegorica for the propulsion and open up a way to make a true air battleship in the future.

...It says a lot about us that when presented with the age-old problem of quickly transporting troops through our territory, the first solution we came up with and put into practice was not making railways or improving our air-transports, but to use barely-understood technologies to rip apart space-time and then use that as a gate.

:V
 
It occurs to me that another solution for the response speed problem is to simply improve the Meganeura's speed. Some kind of hypersonic transport Superheavy would be perfect until we can make long-range Breachgates that can transport Jaegers. Hell, if we go the Superheavy route we can probably use the same technology that goes into the Allegorica for the propulsion and open up a way to make a true air battleship in the future.
I am now picturing Tacit using the air-carrier from The Avengers as a flying surfboard to cross the ocean back to Japan.
 
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