- Location
- Earth
Sun has Multi-Caster; Moon has Spell Cancel, though.
By the way, just as a heads-up: Abyss Knight is the second member of the top 10 you met so far.
Libra's Lament, a Magical Girl Quest [Complete]
- Thread starter Naron
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Sun has Multi-Caster; Moon has Spell Cancel, though.
By the way, just as a heads-up: Abyss Knight is the second member of the top 10 you met so far.
Woops, fucked up when scrolling up to double check my list of quotes
Either way, Multi-Caster isn't quite as powerful as it sounds against a single target, since each cast is a separate damage calculation.
One thing it does let you do though is cast spells at two different enemies simultaneously.
- Location
- St. Petersburg
Yggdrasil and Kibo are pretty transparently cooperating. Even if we forget what we just heard - that they share tech, - we have been repeatedly told that Yggs send the ones who don't share their ideals to Kibo. I presume there are defectors from Kibo to Yggs as well. World isn't kind enough to MGs for them to be at each other's throats, despite the differences in methods. The jury is out who is going to save the day, after all.
That Kibo don't share weapon research is understandable. They use it in self-defence, and Yggs practice that a bit too eagerly. Since their other arrangements hold, both sides understand and accept each other's position at the very least.
I want to know the history of Yggdrasil and how they came to settle in NA, but I guess that's what the Knight wants to tell us anyway. In this case I'd like to ask two questions.
[x] Ask what happened to the city.
[x] What was that about the raid in the north?
Did they find it empty, or...? And I guess I want to know whom they are raiding in the north. There aren't supposed to be any people left around here, are there?
[x] Find out your Affinities
[x] Explore why Rico gets brighter by day and you at night
That Kibo don't share weapon research is understandable. They use it in self-defence, and Yggs practice that a bit too eagerly. Since their other arrangements hold, both sides understand and accept each other's position at the very least.
I want to know the history of Yggdrasil and how they came to settle in NA, but I guess that's what the Knight wants to tell us anyway. In this case I'd like to ask two questions.
[x] Ask what happened to the city.
[x] What was that about the raid in the north?
Did they find it empty, or...? And I guess I want to know whom they are raiding in the north. There aren't supposed to be any people left around here, are there?
[x] Find out your Affinities
[x] Explore why Rico gets brighter by day and you at night
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- Location
- behind you
Maybe we can even ask about their goal in africa. Besides that nothing other came to mind.
The thing with our Affinities seems already locked. XD
Because of the other thing that we can do: Exploring town and meeting other MG´s is something we dont need to do or we will do anyway.
The thing with the brightness of our girls is something we can do anytime normally.
Receiving training and learn about history on the other hand are both things we can take, but we dont know if this our last chance for this things. Exspecially learning about history will be our last chance for a while, because maybe Kibo can us train or give us knowledge, too.
Thats why I think one of this two options are the best to pick.
What do you think of that?
The thing with our Affinities seems already locked. XD
Because of the other thing that we can do: Exploring town and meeting other MG´s is something we dont need to do or we will do anyway.
The thing with the brightness of our girls is something we can do anytime normally.
Receiving training and learn about history on the other hand are both things we can take, but we dont know if this our last chance for this things. Exspecially learning about history will be our last chance for a while, because maybe Kibo can us train or give us knowledge, too.
Thats why I think one of this two options are the best to pick.
What do you think of that?
We should ask about training. Nepgear is never getting the highest level of Skilled she can because she missed a training session in the beginning of the quest with Red Rose.
No, that's why Nepgear is never getting the second highest version.
The reason why she's never getting the highest version is
Goddess Grey: "Original Ability, Do Not Steal"
... Yes. I know. I thought that would be obvious for exactly that reason.
We don't know anyone to ask
- Location
- behind you
We know Igni, Iron, Mirror, Abyss Knight (more or less), Dragon Maid ..... that is enough for now.
[X] Find out your Affinities
[X] Meet more Magical Girls
[X] EXP plan:
-[X] Save it
[X] Meet more Magical Girls
[X] EXP plan:
-[X] Save it
- Location
- Ekaterinburg, Russia
I think I have a pretty interesting idea about what's going to happen later.
With Moonlight Scepter having Return and Levitate both, it's like a remote controlled drone. A healbot.
It's probable that we'll gain a Proxy Caster ability on it, allowing us to heal someone without being in close vicinity. Correction, with Target by Level, someone becomes a group of allies.
So we can send out scepter with our sister, and stay away from fighting.
Magical Girl Silver Hero, the Mana Cheat Hero, responds in kind.
"Triple, Genocide Rain! Double, Mana Blast!" The tidal surge of pure energy that surges down the choke point has more in common with a tsunami than a simple energy cannon.
(Genocide Rain: 3,000 Base Damage, No Dice, +3,000 Rain of Light, +3,000 Rain of Light, +3,000 Rain of Light, +3,000 Rain of Light, +3,000 Rain of Light, +3,000 Rain of Light, +3,000 Rain of Light, +3,000 Rain of Light, +3,000 Rain of Light, +3,000 Rain of Light, +300 Legendary Power = 33,300 Total Damage
Genocide Rain: 3,000 Base Damage, No Dice, +3,000 Rain of Light, +3,000 Rain of Light, +3,000 Rain of Light, +3,000 Rain of Light, +3,000 Rain of Light, +3,000 Rain of Light, +3,000 Rain of Light, +3,000 Rain of Light, +3,000 Rain of Light, +3,000 Rain of Light, +300 Legendary Power = 33,300 Total Damage
Genocide Rain: 3,000 Base Damage, No Dice, +3,000 Rain of Light, +3,000 Rain of Light, +3,000 Rain of Light, +3,000 Rain of Light, +3,000 Rain of Light, +3,000 Rain of Light, +3,000 Rain of Light, +3,000 Rain of Light, +3,000 Rain of Light, +3,000 Rain of Light, +300 Legendary Power = 33,300 Total Damage
Mana Blast: 20,000 Base Damage, +17,130 Mana Cheat Hero = 37,130 Total Damage
Mana Blast: 20,000 Base Damage, +16,987 Mana Cheat Hero = 36,987 Total Damage
174,017 Unified Damage
Echo of Peace: 113,111 Damage Reduction
Michael: 2,000 Base Resilience, No Dice, -1,500 Juggernaut, -1,000 No Room to Dodge, -2,000 Into the Jaws of Death = 2,500 Extra Damage
63,406 Total End Damage
Remember the Light)
Anastasia's Data Retrieval
"Can I fangasm now? I'm going to have a fangasm."
- Magical Girl Silver Hero
Miranda Feller
A.K.A. Mana Cheat Hero / Ms. More Spells Than Sense
Umm... nice to meet you! My name is Mi- Silver! My name is Silver Hero!
But you can all call me Silver. Lets be great friends, alright?- Stats
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Crystalwatcher's story seems to object.Woops, fucked up when scrolling up to double check my list of quotes
Either way, Multi-Caster isn't quite as powerful as it sounds against a single target, since each cast is a separate damage calculation.
One thing it does let you do though is cast spells at two different enemies simultaneously.
1) Silver Hero lacks any abilities that would synchronize her spells. Yet, when she cast her barrage, the spells automatically combined for Unified Damage. Meaning that they came up against the Resilience calculation once.
2) Silver Hero had Multi-Caster LVL 5 when she cast said barrage of FIVE (5) spells. Apparently, you need at least Multi-Caster LVL 2 to cast two spells simultaneously.
3) The same logic also goes for Omni-Caster I presume - that it needs LVL 2 to start working in earnest.
Ummm. Can you please state in no uncertain terms, which statement did you mean?
1) Nepgear is forever limited to Master Skill, because she missed a training session with Red Rose
---If so, please point me to the specific statement in CW's thread that disallows her from learning Inhuman Skill.
2) Nepgear is forever limited to Inhuman Skill, because she missed a training session with Red Rose
---If so, why would this be any different from the normal state of things - which is being limited to Inhuman Skill anyway?
What? What happened?
I agree with LightLan, his question has merit.
[X] Ask...
-[X] What do you plan to build for the future?
[X] Meet more Magical Girls
[X] Maybe someone here wants to train with you?
[X] EXP-Plan
-[X] Save it
While we could get our healing spell to LVL 10 and offer our assistance had we chosen "meet more magical girls" option and found something important that needed healing, I believe we're currently at a lull where we can afford to keep our XP before another crisis strikes.
Also, I don't think learning our Affinities is something Abyss Knight needs to be privy to.
We can see already what our themes are - gentle soothing moonlight and glorious scorching sunlight. Affinities we probably can do without yet.
P.S. The question I'd like to ask ought to delve into the entire "magical girls are born of humanity, how will magical girls be born once there's no humanity left?" can of worms. @Naron, if the question wins, please elaborate on this.
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Except he thought I was refering to
when he said that.
And you're lucky this was easy to search for or I would have just told you to go find it on your own if you really can't take our words for it:
Can only be upgraded in-story by picking the correct options.
You missed one of those options way back when Red Rose was still teaching you and locked it out. Meaning the highest you can get right now is the second from the top.
Inhuman Skill: 2 for 1 <----- What you missed out on.
Master Skill: 3 for 1 <----- What you can get.
Skilled: 4 for 1 <----- What you have.
I do hide stuff in here.
- Location
- Ekaterinburg, Russia
I am very grateful for your help.
I also notice that CW has explicitly said "right now" - which probably means that in the current in-story situation (Answerer preparations) we likely don't have time or opportunity to get to that level of skill (or didn't have one IRL year ago), but it isn't locked out for Nepgear's entire life.
1) Silver Hero is called the Mana Cheat Hero for a reason. The Old Guard are all experts at exploiting soft mechanics. She probably just knows how to cheat to make her own spells work that way even though they shouldn't.
What I described is how stuff is supposed to work under normal conditions.
2+3) Multi-Caster and Omni-Caster do in fact allow two spells at level 1 and three spells at level 2. Seems that either Silver Hero wasn't putting forth full effort there, or she can only unify them when doing less casts than she's capable of.
Alternatively, Crystalwatcher just wasn't paying very close attention to mechanics right there since he knew that Michael's ability would make it irrelevant.
- Location
- Ekaterinburg, Russia
Maybe you're right, and maybe you're wrong.
I'm going to go with my interpretation until the day when I need to write something about it in earnest - and I'll just ask him in Nepgear's thread when that day comes.
Until then (and barring quoted posts telling me otherwise), story post trumps guessing.
I'm actually double checking on Discord right now.
At the very least, in the past on Discord, it's been said that same calculation vs separate calculation is the main difference in a 1v1 fight between a spell having Double Cast and that spell having Multi-Caster (Lvl 1).
- Location
- Earth
How about you check? Eva's thoughts are on the front page, as they have been since PRIMORDIAL Awakening
I can see if that fits in... if it wins.
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- Location
- The Garden
It's not just Eva's thoughts anymore.
[X] Ask...
-[X] What do you plan to build for the future?
[X] Meet more Magical Girls
[X] Maybe someone here wants to train with you?
[X] EXP-Plan
-[X] Save it
Telepathy is cool.
[X] Ask...
-[X] What do you plan to build for the future?
[X] Meet more Magical Girls
[X] Maybe someone here wants to train with you?
[X] EXP-Plan
-[X] Save it
When you type it out like that it brings up a memory of Crystal saying that before. Or one of those three with the authority to say such anyway.
- Location
- Ekaterinburg, Russia
I'd forgotten it was there...
Actually, if you check the known cases of Double Cast and similar abilities, and the presented case of Multi-Caster, you will find that there is at least one difference.
Specifically, that Double Cast and the like all use the same Magic Modifier roll, while Multi-Caster grants separate rolls.
Additionally, that Double Cast are all the same spell, while Multi-Caster grants the possibility of mix-and-match.
In other words:
1) Yes, the separate calculation of damage of each proc is a fact.
2) No, there has yet to be evidence that they must go in as separate attacks - and it's even explicitly stated in the Multi-Caster description that it's "cast several spells simultaneously".
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