Burden of the Emerald Empire (A Legend of the Five Rings Tale)

@sidestory
If you had chosen Shinjo-chan, then this would play out in a different way. The Clans all have their motivations and interests, but how those play out varies based on choices you make.
Aside if you want both, then you're going to need to come up with a title for one of them. They can't both hold the title of Imperial Advisor because of the hierarchy nature of Rokugan. (It'd be like having two Emerald Champions, it just doesn't work)
He's attempting approval voting.
 
Aside if you want both, then you're going to need to come up with a title for one of them. They can't both hold the title of Imperial Advisor because of the hierarchy nature of Rokugan. (It'd be like having two Emerald Champions, it just doesn't work)

Do we have something like a royal Investigator/Inqusitor that investigates corncerns of the royal familie using only legal methods or does this fall under the role of the Kizoku ?

Because if not then I would suggest something like that for Kitsuki Akane given that the main reason we prefer her before the Doji is that we don't trust the other clans (especially the Mantis) not to screw us over

As for the Hierachy I would think to make it either a position within our council or make it the chief subordinate/agent of the Emerald Champion
 
Do we have something like a royal Investigator/Inqusitor that investigates corncerns of the royal familie using only legal methods or does this fall under the role of the Kizoku ?

Because if not then I would suggest something like that for Kitsuki Akane given that the main reason we prefer her before the Doji is that we don't trust the other clans (especially the Mantis) not to screw us over

As for the Hierachy I would think to make it either a position within our council or make it the chief subordinate/agent of the Emerald Champion
That falls under the remit of the Emerald Champion. (Technically the Scorpion are supposed to do this...but well Scorpion)
 
That falls under the remit of the Emerald Champion. (Technically the Scorpion are supposed to do this...but well Scorpion)

Ah okay, I kinda imagined him to be more of a judge and settle disputes between clans, nobles and what not else and didn't think he would have time to be the royal policemen as well and investigate royal concerns as well

E: say does the Emerald Champion also write the laws that he enforces ?
 
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Ah okay, I kinda imagined him to be more of a judge and settle disputes between clans, nobles and what not else and didn't think he would have time to be the royal policemen as well and investigate royal concerns as well

E: say does the Emerald Champion also write the laws that he enforces ?
No the Emperor's write the laws that the Emerald Champion enforces.
The Emerald Champion is an interesting position because it's gradually been decoupled from a lot of areas through the centuries in recognition of the time crunch. He used to be functionally, the Jade Champion, Imperial Treasurer and Imperial Chancellor.
 
No the Emperor's write the laws that the Emerald Champion enforces.
The Emerald Champion is an interesting position because it's gradually been decoupled from a lot of areas through the centuries in recognition of the time crunch. He used to be functionally, the Jade Champion, Imperial Treasurer and Imperial Chancellor.
Its also interesting because theoretically he's the guy who duels in the Emperors place and really he shouldn't have been doing that governing, just fighting.:p
 
So... the crane and the Dragon are both non-terrible choices. The dragon is quite a *lot* better for our relations balance, however (their one independent penalty bounces off of the mantis lock at 20, as opposed to the two independent penalties that the Crane are sporting). Her basic issues are a strong dislike for the Scorpion and the Unicorn. Doji Fumiko, on the other hand, has a bit too much focus on the courts (and a dislike for those who do not play its games) and her abilities fall apart if anyone ever wants to hurt her (or us) badly enough to take a wound themselves.

Dragon is the obvious defensive pick. It leaves us in a better position wrt relations right now, and it leaves us more prepared to spot things (and thwart them) before they become problems. She's apparently really good at doing her thing while not offending people. It also pushes the Kitsuki method, which is handy for rooting out corruption in general.

Crane is the proactive choice. The Crane pick makes things happen - constructing and executing on plots. Hmm....

For me? We're already a reasonably competent courtier ourselves, and our wife-to-be will grow into one. I don't see any major cultural changes we want/need to make except perhaps to drive the Justice/Compassion thing for the wife, and she'd be better spearheading that herself (and when she does, having the Kitsuki method watching her flanks will likely be pretty useful). I think the defensive pick is the right one, here.

[x] Kitsuki Akane
 
For the record, it leaves us in a less bad position. Since we lose relationship with all other clans who we passed over.
First, "better, relative to the other options" rather than "better, relative to current state". Second, pertinent locks are pertinent. Being able to bump on both the Dragon and the Mantis will open up further options in the future for trying to drag ourselves out of this hole.
 
Lay your weary head to rest
Not feeling up to writing an update tonight. Have fluff instead.
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Your shoulders feel like knotted rocks for all the good that the hot bath had done. While for now everything was going apace, the weight of the Empire still felt immeasurable. When was the last time you had truly slept without worrying long into the night about this or that? You were enduring, reliable...you would do your duty.

As you listen to the Otomo representative, Mochika, that was his name once again petition you to build another castle in one of the non aligned lands so that they could move out of the Crane lands. You can feel your head ache beginning to build. By all the gods, the Crane had been nothing but gracious hosts and it still wasn't enough for this arrogant tool?

You wanted to tell him to go kill himself, wanted to just go grab some shochu and ignore this.
But, you can't. Annoying you isn't technically a crime, and you can understand the desire to have your own home, free of commitments from others. Understand, that the Otomo being reliant on the Crane actively reflected on your prestige.

Even so, you just wanted to rest, just wanted to let your head fall down and sleep while listening to the midnight winds...

Finally you give some vague words and reassurances and dismiss the man before retreating into your inner quarters, the one place you could say you wouldn't be accosted by someone needing something.

And Kaname is there...lovely. You put on your 'Emperor does not in fact want to snap and kill something face' and approach her as she doesn't seem to notice you. Hmm might need to rename that face.

"Shiba-san, to what do I owe the pleasure?" You ask.

Gods, why couldn't you get one moment of peace?

"Ah..." She turns around and kowtows as is proper.

"Forgive me Tenno, I didn't think you would be back for some time." She says.

"...I do keep late hours, but your own chambers are comfortable enough aren't they?" You ask.

She looks up.
"They are...but...I wanted to understand the chambers I would be in if I wed." She says softly.

"You...intend to share my bed regularly?" You are surprised.

While there is the marriage bed, typically...that bed is only for when you are amorous with each other. Outside it the Empress can and often does keep her own rooms and beds. Officially so that if Heaven's forbid something happened to you, she could be safe. Unofficially, it was so the Empress didn't have to watch her husband sleep with his concubines. While the Toturi had not really indulged in the practice. Tradition was it's own keeper.

"...Um hai. I know...I know you don't, particularly like me, but I do want us to have a good marriage...and keeping separate from you, doesn't help with that."

You stop for a moment...don't like her? While that wasn't entirely true....but you could see how she came to that conclusion. You had after all spend much time with her debating and convincing her she was wrong with her. You gesture her to stand up.

"Shiba-san, it's not that I don't like you, it's just..."

She stands up and looks at you.
"That I'm too outspoken, to set in my justice and beliefs, I don't...bend like most people do. I understand Mikado, but I am who I am."

Unspoken in her eyes, was that she believed you regretted that decision, and a part of you did. Another part of you resolved that you would change things.

"You are Shiba-san...but you are growing, and I do like you, I just want what's best for everyone." You say quietly.

Kaname shifts, feeling awkward.
"I know my Emperor, that is why I want to try and make this a good marriage, you walk so alone, and it does not seem...right that you should do so."

You let out a chuckle internally. You were the Emperor, the Empire was your burden and yours alone.
"That so?"

"Hai." She says simply.

"And how do you intend to do that?" You ask wryly.

"I...if my Emperor permits...would show you." She says.

You raise an eyebrow, but nod as she gestures for you to sit on the futon. You do so, wondering if the naive Kaname is really that naive if she's going to do...that. Instead of 'that' she kneels behind you and you feel strong, but feminine hands on your back and shoulders.

They dig into your muscles, working out the knots with an implacable determination. She's good at this, you wonder when the Shiba Ryu began teaching that. Did she go out and learn this herself? If so from...oh that feels so nice...it hurts but it feels nice. You feel yourself leaning back into her, leaning into Kaname's warm fingers, in many ways this is scandalous beyond compare. Yet, you find the touch of her soothing, the feeling of someone taking care of you, not because you're the Emperor but because your just a man...is oddly liberating.

You can hear her softly singing humming an old lullaby that you can only vaguely remember your mother humming to you when you were young. The back rub continues as you find yourself slowly relaxing more and more into Kaname's arms. You are tired...and you find that her hums and hands are only making the siren call of Yume-do stronger.

"...You are..talented, Shiba-san" You say.
Your eyes are drooping as you fight going to sleep. You need to stay up to...was she always this comfortable?

You feel her still for a moment.
"If it pleases you, please call me Kaname" She says softly.

"...Hai Kaname-chan" you mumble.

You feel her pet your hair, as finally mercifully, sleep comes to you, no worrying no nightmares, just sleep.
 
I'll be honest, this is more what I was hoping for when we did so well on the previous roll. Glad to see that the two are growing more comfortable with each other.
 
Hmm let's run a tally. Broadly you've chosen to go with Kitsuki Akane.
Adhoc vote count started by gman391 on Jun 26, 2017 at 3:50 PM, finished with 37 posts and 10 votes.

  • [x] Kitsuki Akane (Locks Dragon relations to minimum 30 for two years. +5 Crab, -5 Mantis, Crane Focus Discernment
    [X] Doji Fumiko (Locks Crane Relations to minimum 30 for two years. +5 to Lion relations. -5 Scorpion and Crab Focus: Diplomacy)
    [X] Kitsuki Akane
    [X] Kitsuki Akane (Locks Dragon relations to minimum 30 for two years. +5 Crab, -5 Mantis, Focus Discernment
    [x] Ide Kazue (Locks Unicorn relations to minimum 30 for two years. +5 to Mantis. -5 Phoenix Focus: Balanced)
    [x] Bayushi Kaukatsu (Locks Scorpion relations to minimum 30 for two years. +5 Phoenix, Scorpion Relations. -5 Lion. Focus Subterfuge)
    [X] Doji Fumiko & Kitsuki Akane

Adhoc vote count started by gman391 on Jun 26, 2017 at 3:51 PM, finished with 37 posts and 10 votes.

  • [x] Kitsuki Akane (Locks Dragon relations to minimum 30 for two years. +5 Crab, -5 Mantis, Crane Focus Discernment
    [X] Doji Fumiko (Locks Crane Relations to minimum 30 for two years. +5 to Lion relations. -5 Scorpion and Crab Focus: Diplomacy)
    [X] Kitsuki Akane
    [X] Kitsuki Akane (Locks Dragon relations to minimum 30 for two years. +5 Crab, -5 Mantis, Focus Discernment
    [x] Ide Kazue (Locks Unicorn relations to minimum 30 for two years. +5 to Mantis. -5 Phoenix Focus: Balanced)
    [x] Bayushi Kaukatsu (Locks Scorpion relations to minimum 30 for two years. +5 Phoenix, Scorpion Relations. -5 Lion. Focus Subterfuge)
    [X] Doji Fumiko & Kitsuki Akane
gman391 threw 6 10-faced dice. Reason: Waiting Game Total: 36
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Year 1: The Imperial Chancellor's Warning
-Kitsuki Akane

You place the files back down. You know that the Crane and Scorpion will both scream bloody murder if you don't choose them. However....Kitsuki Akane offers a unique insight, set of variables, and perhaps most importantly, can keep Yoritomo Hiroko in check for you. Taking that particular burden off your shoulders.

With that in mind, and the fact that the Dragon are arguably the one Clan that doesn't have eternal vengeance sworn upon them by one of the other Clans. The War of Silk and Steel was a war. But the Dragon don't do the whole vendetta thing.

The Crane and Scorpion are strong candidates...and you can only hope and pray that the Crane manage to actually win the contest they designed so they would always win, instead of failing to like they had for the last fifty odd years or so. Although, granted, the Yasuki winning was entirely your father's fault.

That left the Scorpion upset, but on the other hand...you suspect the Scorpion had some sort of long term game plan involved that let them lose here to win somewhere else. You'd deal with that when it came.

Steepling your hands, you look around.
"I have made my decision, we will have Kitsuki Akane-san as our Imperial Advisor." You declare

"As you will Mikado" The rest of the council echoes as one.

"Now on to other business..." You say.

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7th Day of the Horse

"My Emperor, Bayushi Kaukatsu-sama's appointment has arrived Your herald announced.

Now came the consequences of your choice you supposed. What would the Scorpion want? Could you afford not to give it to them? Could you afford to not not give it to them. The Imperial Legions were still weak relatively speaking a war was not in your interests, maybe if you had put that over rebuilding...
Bah the die is cast, and all you can do is live with it. You had to give your Imperial Chancellor the time of day, even if you excluded him from your inner councils.

"Send him in then" You say.

You place the admittedly boring document on the Seppun accounts, and lean back slightly, establishing your authority through posture.

An old man walks into the room, even as you watch him approach and kowtow, your senses strain to feel for more of them, than 'exists' and find nothing but empty space. You suppose that one does not get to be an old Scorpion by not knowing how to disappear at need.

Silence fills the room, Kaukatsu is prepared to wait you out, to make you come to him. You are the Emperor of all Rokugan, and yet he dares to make you wait. Another reminder of how far the office had fallen.

However, two can play at that game. So you lean back, waiting. You are young, but you are not impatient. The Earth is your guide as well as the Air. Long minutes trickle past, as neither of you bends. Finally he breaks first.

"My Emperor, forgive me for not realizing your intent, allow me to thank you for this audience and assure you that the Scorpion remain loyal servants of the Empire." Kaukatsu says, his voice at odds with his appearance.

It's young, cold, the voice of a calculated killer, not someone who looks like he should be retiring to be a simple monk.

"I am assured of such by Lord Bayushi, but I thank you Bayushi-san for the reaffirmation. You may rise."
You reply.

"Thank you. I am of course distressed that you did not see fit to use me as your advisor, but I understand the appeal of Kitsuki-san. That is however, not what drove me to seek this audience."

Liar, you know he's lying, he knows you know, and you both know that you can't call him out on it...not without cause.

"What then Bayushi-san drives my Imperial Chancellor to seek an audience with me?"

"If I may approach you, Holy Tenno, I will show you what brings me to seek an audience with you." He says.

You nod slightly, and watch warily as he approaches, you can feel your Seppun guards tensing in the air. The Hantei had died when a Scorpion approached them...was this a new attempt? It was madness, yet madness was only rarely admitted as such.

Kaukatsu hands over a small stack of papers from his kimono, slowly, carefully to show no hostile intent. You take them and begin reading it over quickly. What was this?

Letters, witness testimony, ledgers, troop movement records. All of them pointing at a conspiracy at the very heart of the Empire. Moto Chagatai and Naizen seeking to over throw you and put in place someone who would be more pliable to their interests, your little brother....someone who would make the rest of the Empire fund their ambition. Chagatai to be lord of the East and take even the Jewel of the Desert Medinaat-al Salaam. While Naizen was the lord of the West, and given free reign to do whatever he willed in the Ivory Kingdoms. The Lion were to be driven into strife with Ikoma Otemi framed for the murder of his charge. The Crane and Crab sent back to war until one was finished...and the Scorpion would burn, having revealed their treachery by murdering you and your young wife to be.

It was breathtaking in sheer audacity...and at the heart of their plans they were guided by two men one you'd never heard of Susumu, and one you had, only briefly. Usharo, a former Otomo who was cast down for his crimes. The two men working together to turn the Clans against the Throne.

If this was true, then it was treason on a scale not seen since the Scorpion coup...if it was true. Kasuga Taigen was far from the most skilled Kizoku you could have...but to miss this? No one was that incompetent were they? It was all very convenient for the Scorpion, you'd have to dismiss Hiroko and with her your main reason for choosing Akane was gone, you would look somewhat foolish, and the Scorpion and Crane could divide things among them as wise protectors of their young monarch.

You put the documents down and look at Kaukatsu.

"I apologize for upsetting you my Emperor...but this had to be brought to your attention."

"Why has my Kizoku not found any hints of this?" You ask.

Kaukatsu shrugs. "I would say that it is because the Scorpion have always been the masters of the shadows. This is what we were commanded to do. Practice does make perfect"

In other words, his suggestion is that Taigen is an incompetent idiot. Which...you don't think is entirely fair, but if this is true...is the one that most would come to.

Yet, it all comes down to that question doesn't it? Is Kaukatsu showing you the truth like a loyal Samurai...or has he fed you an exceedingly well created forgery in order to gain what he wanted through other means?

"Leave me, Bayushi-san, I must consider this on my own." You say at last.

"Of course my Emperor" The old Scorpion again kow-tows leaving you entirely alone in your office.

The question of whether to believe him or not, still rings in your head....you have to make a decision.

[] Believe Bayushi Kaukatsu
[] Do not believe Bayushi Kaukatsu

AN: Next update will contain a policy vote. What that vote is depends on this choice.
 
On one hand, slavishly loyal Scorpion.

On the other, disloyal Scorpion who takes massive advantage of their Clan's reputation for the former. We must remember Atsuki, and Shoju.

So, what do you all think?
 
In character OTL the Unicorn took advantage of the loss of the previous emperor when he had no children (and the Kolat messed with his message of declaring his half-brother heir) with the intent to put his half brother on the throne, and ended up allied with the Mantis clan with Naizen believing it was the shortest way to resolve the situation one way or the other. Now with an actual Emperor on the throne I cannot see the Unicorn pulling this, not even Chagatai would have dared it would lack legitimacy and would have united the other clans against them and that is a fight they cannot win. Working together to maneuver against another Clan for position yes, that sort of thing happens often. All clans have their own agenda and seek to push it and you get constant attempts in the fields of combat, in the Winter Court and lesser courts, amongst the artisans and many more areas of conflict to try and gain advantage for your Family and for your Clan.

Interestingly enough OTL, Kaukatsu was Chancellor at the time if I am remembering correctly and was working with the Unicorn until he and some other members of the court were killed when a portal to Gaki-Do opened and the Hungry Dead came forth.

[X] Do not believe Bayushi Kaukatsu

Wait... Susumu and Usharo... oh oh... yeah not going to say anymore.
 
Personally I'd have been asking "Why did you not bring this before me earlier?"


My read on the situation:
- This man is not Scorpion Paragon loyal to us. If he were Paragon levels of loyal, he would have mentioned something about this before now, rather than waiting until he could spring it on us at a time where it would cost us additional political capital to do the thing he wants us to do. It takes *time* to put this sort of thing together. "You should make me your advisor. See this thing I have established for you" is a fairly compelling argument, after all. Whether or not this is accurate, he *is* playing us.
- He's put in a fair bit of effort to build to this interaction one way or the other. Investigations to this level are not trivial. Forgeries to this level are also not trivial. The forging would probably be the easier of the two.
- At an OOC level, the fact that Susumu is mentioned, when our PC would have no reason to know who he was, makes me inclined to think that there's at least *something* there. It's entirely possible that he's taken a few pieces from a few different plots and stitched them together into something else, rather than crafting from whole cloth.
- The plot has three primary focii. The Lion heir to be killed and his regent framed for it, the Crab and Crane sent back to war, and us assassinated, with the Scorpion either framed or guilty of the assassination, found out (or "found out"), and burned to the ground (again).
- The Unicorn and Mantis *are* plotting something... though we don't know exactly what.
- This is the sort of thing that happens from time to time in Rokugan, and "Spider scheming" is exactly the sort of thing that *makes* it happen.
- Admitting openly that we believe this thing is a terrible idea. Ignoring this thing is *also* a terrible idea.
- Given that we've been told the plans, by the Scorpion, no less, much of this is shot already. The Scorpion aren't going to try to assassinate us when they know they're going to get stabbed in the back, if they try to start up the Yasuki war again, we can intervene to a degree, and we can absolutely intervene if the current Lion Heir dies to prevent his regent from being implicated.
- OOC, if this plot *is* being run by Susumu/Usharo, it almost certainly has radically different objectives than it pretends to. IC... why would they be scheming on behalf of the Mantis and Unicorn?

@gman391 - it doesn't look like there's a write-in here. My actual reaction was something along the lines of "it's not completely trustworthy, but I suspect there's at least some truth here. Take quiet steps to protect against this and investigate further, but don't act too openly". Is that not reasonable?
 
@Sirrocco
My intent was that the next vote would be to give nuance to the options either way. However, if you want to write in, I'll allow it. It's really only on policy votes (Indicated by the coloured options) where I'll reject write ins as a rule.
 
[X] Partially believe Bayushi Kaukatsu
-[X] On the one side, this degree of evidence about something this shocking is something you cannot afford to ignore. On the other, it is clear that Bayushi Kaukatsu is clearly playing this game for his own benefit, rather than yours, and the Scorpion are capable of... artistic interpretations of reality. We should start taking steps to discern the truth further... but do so quietly. A bit of judiciousness also improves the narrative, even if every word is true. If we dismiss Hiroko immediately, then we look like fools, both for choosing her and for choosing Kitsuki Akane. If Kitsuki Akane manages to uncover a scheme or two, though, resulting in Hiroko's dismissal... well, that's a rather different story. We can give the Bayushi appropriate acclaim alongside her for their part in uncovering it, and the other Clans most certainly will not object to us looking for confirmation before taking the Scorpion at their word.
-[X]...and if it turns out that he *is* correct (or largely so), then perhaps he would be interested in the position of Kizoku? Failure at this level would give us plenty of reason to rid ourselves of Kasuga Taigen, and Bayushi Kaukatsu would certainly have proven himself worthy of the job.

Yeah... the write-in, it is too thorough. I'm going to leave it there, though, under the theory that you can pay attention to what you like, and strip the rest down for potentially useful parts (or discards). I admit that I don't know where "Chancellor" fits in the overall structure of Rokugan. I just notice that he's not part of our court. I certainly wouldn't have meant it as a demotion.
 
Imperial Chancellor is an odd duck because its one of the few Imperial titles not appointed or gained through a tournament, rather its an elected position by the rest of the Clan Champions. Which is why he's not on the council. In practice the Imperial Chancellor is the back up back up Emperor serving when there is no designated regent, and being the voice of the Clans to the Emperor. Since the latter role requires a unified voice, it comes into play rarely. The former however is more common, particularly in the 12th century. Giving him a second job is hardly an insult as Kaukatsu would not be required to give up the Chancellorship.

This is a slight alteration from the canon interpretation where the Imperial Chancellor worked like the Imperial Advisor in this quest, and the Imperial Advisor is just an informal title for the Emperor's Court advising person and somehow controlled access to the Emperor.

So yeah hope that sorts things out

@Sirrocco
That's literally the planned Air Option in the next vote.
 
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The Scorpion are liars. They are polite enough to tell us this to our faces. We should probably believe them.

[X] Do not believe Bayushi Kaukatsu
 
Imperial Chancellor is an odd duck because its one of the few Imperial titles not appointed or gained through a tournament, rather its an elected position by the rest of the Clan Champions. Which is why he's not on the council. In practice the Imperial Chancellor is the back up back up Emperor serving when there is no designated regent, and being the voice of the Clans to the Emperor. Since the latter role requires a unified voice, it comes into play rarely. The former however is more common, particularly in the 12th century. Giving him a second job is hardly an insult as Kaukatsu would not be required to give up the Chancellorship.

This is a slight alteration from the canon interpretation where the Imperial Chancellor worked like the Imperial Advisor in this quest, and the Imperial Advisor is just an informal title for the Emperor's Court advising person and somehow controlled access to the Emperor.

So yeah hope that sorts things out

@Sirrocco
That's literally the planned Air Option in the next vote.
Cool. Is that the Air Option for "believe" or "don't believe"?

Also, you may take my vote for whichever one that is, if I don't manage to get back here before votes close.
 
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All right then.

[X] Believe Bayushi Kaukatsu

Because it *is* plausible, and ignoring it altogether is... worrisome. Approaching it judiciously is, I think, the wiser path.

Also, Air is unlikely to upset the Crane, who are our low clan for the moment, and believe/air means we're at least taking the Scorpion seriously, which should help keep them above water. Keeping the Unicorn placated might start to be a bit of a trick soon, but if they're not actively plotting against us yet, then we still have at least a bit of space to work with (twitch) and if they are actively plotting against us, then their apparent clan rating is not so important for right now.
 
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