It Belongs to a Museum

[X] [STAFF] Stranded Valkyrie
Good synergy with current exhibits, OLD ONES

[X] [STAFF] Lie of Aenarion
Fits our favourite type of student to a T, including the potential to be the doom of their people.

Our old students have been around for centuries by this point. They will keep.

[X] [AELSA] Princess
[X] [AELSA] Governor
Aelsa (daaaw, we already have a pet name for her) needs a solid power base before we can move on to more contentious avenues of development...

[ ] [AELSA] Widow
Soon.
 
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[X] [STAFF] Stranded Valkyrie
for our exoteric needs, and as someone with an actual clue what is going on in Lustria.
Fjolnir has an actual clue as to what is going on in Lustria. Detailed is one step from Minutiae, which is as good as it gets barring being the top expert in the world in a specific slice of a topic. Sure, we'd get something from moving to the Valkyrie, but I'm not really interested in mundane experts at this point.

It won't be amazing if we don't have any ability to source relics from the Citadel of Dusk in the meantime. There's still lots of things we need to get from that Contact.
Eh, we've got the Tide on staff still. And we won't necessarily lose that access immediately. And I don't imagine there'll be a loss without a corresponding gain.

[ ] [STAFF] Ibn Naggazar
The world is such a judgemental place. Look, Ibn Naggazar's father had it coming. That Ibn used his father's skin to bind his masterpiece and his soul to fuel the magics within it was both justified and fair. And as far as you know the original copy of the Book has only consumed those that sought to remake a victim of the lad. And the copies? Copies of great books just seem to happen. You know for a fact that the Books of Nagash were crawling with magics that were supposed to make them impossible to replicate, but you couldn't go a decade without tripping over someone looking to add a new branch to that family tree, and more often than not they succeeded.

What Ibn Naggazar wants more than anything is a place to pursue his true passions of recreational alchemy and light daemonology without closed-minded authorities trying to kick down his door and forcing him to use and feed his book some more. Giving him a place to do so would be doing him a long-overdue mercy, and the world a perhaps undeserved one.
Knowledges: Alchemy (Detailed), Daemonology (Surface), Elementalism (Surface), Necromancy (Surface), Grey Magic (Surface)
Rare Capabilities: Daemonology
Contribution: Black Book of Ibn Naggazar (Centerpiece)
Well well, that is a storied relic! There's sound reasons to go for the Black Lion, or one of the more experienced magic users... but I hear the sweet siren song of BÖÖK, and it cannot be denied.

[X] [STAFF] Ibn Naggazar

...I suppose I should also vote for corrupting the princess if I'm voting to acquire the cursed daemonic tome written on human skin, then?

EDIT: I've been convinced that she's not in a hurry, and that it might work better if she has a chance to consolidate her power first.

[X] [AELSA] Widow
[X] [AELSA] Governor
 
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[X] [STAFF] Black Lion
[X] [STAFF] Ibn Naggazar

[X] [AELSA] Businesswoman
[X] [AELSA] Governor
 
[X] [STAFF] Lie of Aenarion
[X] [STAFF] Bahr
[X] [STAFF] Ibn Naggazar
[X] [AELSA] Governor

Welcome to old and potentially new students! But not you, yet Aelsa.
 
New student? yes plz

[X] [STAFF] Lie of Aenarion

[X] [AELSA] Widow

Gonna be real, the 'we should wait' options sound like when Boeny had to clarify "no getting it done sooner is better than later" for the initial vote. Giving her power and agency means she has less time to futz about with the already dead and likely kinda chill soul of her husband.
The difference for that vote was that waiting would mean that her husband's soul would degrade. She would also have time to grow used to his absence. That is not the case with waiting now, she feels his presence whenever she visits the tomb, if anything her ambition to raise him will grow as time passes rather than fade. The cost to waiting on teaching her necromancy is more likely that she will seach for alternate teachers rather than grow wary. But I trust her elven view of time to give us some decent leeway on that front so long as we're building her resources & scouting necromancers/necromantic knowledge. Encouraging the natural elven perfectionist streak when it comes to raising her husband would be best, it would be a shame for him to return as a rotting corpse or skeletal husk rather than a true lordly form that can enjoy life's pleasures in its undeath.
 
[X] [STAFF] Lie of Aenarion
[X] [STAFF] Bahr
[X] [STAFF] Ibn Naggazar
[X] [STAFF] Barrow King
[X] [AELSA] Princess
 
The difference for that vote was that waiting would mean that her husband's soul would degrade. She would also have time to grow used to his absence. That is not the case with waiting now, she feels his presence whenever she visits the tomb, if anything her ambition to raise him will grow as time passes rather than fade. The cost to waiting on teaching her necromancy is more likely that she will seach for alternate teachers rather than grow wary. But I trust her elven view of time to give us some decent leeway on that front so long as we're building her resources & scouting necromancers/necromantic knowledge. Encouraging the natural elven perfectionist streak when it comes to raising her husband would be best, it would be a shame for him to return as a rotting corpse or skeletal husk rather than a true lordly form that can enjoy life's pleasures in its undeath.
Good point. For that matter, it's probably better if Aelsabrim has the chance to consolidate her power prior to performing actions that will weaken her politically. Governor makes quite a lot of sense, from that angle.
 
Technically speaking I think being a proper Princess on Ulthuan proper gives more political oomph than Governor of a colony, in Ulthuani political consensus, anyways.
 
[X] [AELSA] Princess

I really want to take a look at those sunken cities.

[X] [STAFF] Stranded Valkyrie

I just think they're neat.
 
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[X] [STAFF] Lie of Aenarion
[X] [STAFF] Bahr
[X] [STAFF] Ibn Naggazar
[X] [AELSA] Governor

Lie - they're a protagonist, and a potential new student.
Bahr - I kinda want to do an exhibit about his many betrayals
Ibn Nahhazar - the way Paht described him is so full of copium that I think I got heavy metal poisoning.

Any of those.

Governor - turning the Citadel into a proper colony is cool.
 
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I found myself looking through the options to see how many were canon ( not all, but most of them) and one stood out at the end:

4. Khar-mel the Djinn
"If she does have one weakness it is her thirst for knowledge. Adventurers who claims that they are undertaking a quest in search of ancient lore may well secure Khar-mel's services."

If the wiki is even slightly accurate, then suddenly, I can see why she and Pahtsehken got along. And why she might become intertwined as staff for a museum. Very much kindred Spirits.

honestly that would be quite touching. subverting a title so ominous with something so personal. Like mathy adopting a cat called morr.
I hadn't even thought of it in that regard, but yeah. Subverting a destiny hanging over someone by deliberately playing into it at every opportunity would be a neat note.
 
One big thing to keep in mind is what we've discovered an entire new dimension for Staff since the last. They're our main support for Leads that aren't just raid targets. This gives a lot of extra oomph to the Valkyrie, but it also cushions the anemic knowledge-pile of the Lie of Aenarion. As a YA protag they are instantly qualified for any and all Leads.

[X] [STAFF] Lie of Aenarion

For Aelsabrim I'm kinda down to reshuffle what she is. Like, we already have a banger Lustria exhibit that's just missing some more magic. Will more dinosaur bones or some minor beasts ever actually be the most interesting thing to vote for in future votes? Probably not.
So I don't think the chaotic option actually risks the loss of that much worth worrying about.

[X] [AELSA] Widow
 
[X] [STAFF] Lie of Aenarion

Too good to pass up. I've dreamed of something like this for a long time.

[X] [AELSA] Widow

Since we did play around with this idea in the first place and it won then.
 
It can be argued that the Lizardmen are also improving, due to the evolution of the Red-Crested Skinks and the Cult of Sotek.
I think the lizardmen genuinely can be argued to be declining, because their civilization really, really is having trouble with the slow and seemingly irreversible loss of "remember how this cool old shit worked." There's a reason that Xantalos' very successful 'Lizardmen Quest' started with a core mechanic of quite rapidly enabling the lizardmen to recover a great deal of lost power and knowledge so that they could start rebuilding on their new world, because that is not how things normally work for lizardmen.

The Cult of Sotek is at least a viable path forward for the lizardmen that doesn't rely on the dwindling presence of the slann and the permanently if slowly decreasing number of Old One relics in the world, but I'm not sure I'd go so far as to say the lizardmen as a whole are getting better-off.

The Elf calling themself Aenureir of Korumel is a bright but withdrawn child, their skin tanned and their hair beginning to grow out of a neglected mohawk. They're unable to fully keep their curiosity from bubbling up below their protective shell of bitterness, and they carry themself with the sort of complete confidence that comes from knowing that their doom is too great to come without proper foreshadowing.

...

[ ] [STAFF] Bahr
Ah, Bahr. Bahr the Betrayer. You had lost touch with him after he betrayed Copher for Arkhan, but apparently since then he betrayed Arkhan for the Lahmians, the Lahmians for the Tzeentchians, the Tzeentchians for the Skaven, and then all of the above to each other and to anyone else that would pay for the privilege. Six cults, four gangs, three Clans, and somehow a Beastherd tore each other apart in the streets of the wolf-blessed mountain-city of Middenheim as Bahr fled it with a wagonload of treasures and a headful of secrets. Now he's looking for somewhere to keep his things and pursue his studies in peace in between going out there to do it all again, and as it turns out, over his long life you're the only teacher he hasn't had reason to betray. You don't see any reason for that to change, as unlike the rest of them, you've never tried to dictate what your students do with the knowledge that you impart.
Knowledges: Necromancy (Detailed), Daemonology (Detailed), Tzeentch (Surface), Witchcraft (Surface), Skaven (Surface), Empire (Surface)
Rare Capabilities: Necromancy, Daemonology



[ ] [STAFF] Ibn Naggazar
The world is such a judgemental place. Look, Ibn Naggazar's father had it coming. That Ibn used his father's skin to bind his masterpiece and his soul to fuel the magics within it was both justified and fair. And as far as you know the original copy of the Book has only consumed those that sought to remake a victim of the lad. And the copies? Copies of great books just seem to happen. You know for a fact that the Books of Nagash were crawling with magics that were supposed to make them impossible to replicate, but you couldn't go a decade without tripping over someone looking to add a new branch to that family tree, and more often than not they succeeded.

What Ibn Naggazar wants more than anything is a place to pursue his true passions of recreational alchemy and light daemonology without closed-minded authorities trying to kick down his door and forcing him to use and feed his book some more. Giving him a place to do so would be doing him a long-overdue mercy, and the world a perhaps undeserved one.
Knowledges: Alchemy (Detailed), Daemonology (Surface), Elementalism (Surface), Necromancy (Surface), Grey Magic (Surface)
Rare Capabilities: Daemonology
Contribution: Black Book of Ibn Naggazar (Centerpiece)
You just HAVE to laugh. :D
 
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[X] [STAFF] Lie of Aenarion

Youths of today shouldn't be saddled with destinies that are too heavy for them to carry, let's make sure they have an environment where they get to be just kids and do kid stuff like roughhousing and raising undead abominations without worry.


[X] [AELSA] Widow

I get that people want Aelsabrim to shore up her political power before jumping off the deep-end, but at the same time an argument can be made that it is better for her to join the Dhark side of fate while she is still ignorable. A mayor caught in a scandal causes less of a stir than a prime minister caught in the same scandal, after all.

... That is not an argument that I am making, I just vote Widow because I want Aelsa to be properly reunited sooner rather than later.
 
I think the lizardmen genuinely can be argued to be declining, because their civilization really, really is having trouble with the slow and seemingly irreversible loss of "remember how this cool old shit worked." There's a reason that Xantalos' very successful 'Lizardmen Quest' started with a core mechanic of quite rapidly enabling the lizardmen to recover a great deal of lost power and knowledge so that they could start rebuilding on their new world, because that is not how things normally work for lizardmen.

The Cult of Sotek is at least a viable path forward for the lizardmen that doesn't rely on the dwindling presence of the slann and the permanently if slowly decreasing number of Old One relics in the world, but I'm not sure I'd go so far as to say the lizardmen as a whole are getting better-off.
Also, there might be long-term societal downsides to having a prominent and growing part of the religion and culture be centered around "sacrifice lots and lots of people to our God of bloodthirst and devouring of enemies."
 
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[X] [STAFF] Lie of Aenarion

Much as I've wanted Old One lore, I've wanted to adopt an elfling since midway though the K8P campaign. True we would be doing it as Uncle Lion But the Unreasonably Pedagogical not Mathilde Weber, shadowmancer extraordinaire, but that is fine too. The Tide of Skjold and our Bard are going to be really pumped at her Mighty Doom (TM) and they are not going to understand what the fuss is.
 
Technically speaking I think being a proper Princess on Ulthuan proper gives more political oomph than Governor of a colony, in Ulthuani political consensus, anyways.
There's a balancing act for the ideal case there. Yeah, you want political oomph, but you also want a degree of "out of sight, out of mind".

"Yeah. she's doing necromancy, but, you know, she's doing it OVER THERE, and the forces we would generally use to dislodge a necromancy in southern lustria are kind of under her control" as opposed the pheonix king being able to pop over for a cup of tea with a side detour of "Knock that dark magic the fuck off or else."
 
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