- Location
- Someplace USA
Ridcully continuing to eak out crucial resources and minor advantages for the Eldar and the Sane.
The Long Night Part Three: Bonfire at Dawn (45k)
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Robinton
Probably petting Schrödinger's cat
- Location
- Scientifically proving a miracle
...I may be paranoid, but why couldn't it have been four or six?
Khorne still likes Jane, I see. (Mostly joking)
That last sentence sounds disturbingly like "This freed up a notable amount of Eldar to be fed to the Dragon." Not a cheerful thought.
- Location
- Omniverse #1345
I believe Durin has stated that Khorne would get off his throne for Jane, if she fell. Yeah. It won't stop him from trying to kill her, of course. I'm pretty sure he considers that flirting.
- Location
- madison
i see Khorne got Jane a small valentines day gift.
so my gut reaction to the flashpoints
so probably psykers and jagers? maybe some helguard. You know its a shame we don't deploy our psyker hunters. I almost wonder if we should start a branch for external deployment.
well major psyker deployment here and i'm trying to remember who has banishment runes.
shoot, Legio Vulpix is a titan legion. well, guess we're going to be sending our crusher and titan divisions here. also our titan hunters.
I strongly suspect that this time they are expecting a similar defense, so we might wann change up the approch. Then again, we might be able to spare more titans this time.
we're not going to be holding this time, we're holding back a bit to regenerate our forces. On the plus side that does mean our titans are going to be free to fight Vulpix and defend Cardian.
- Location
- The Netherlands
well all the helltroopers just got those on their weapons
That does rather beg the question of how we're gonna keep enforcing our telepatica policies as the ratio of psykers to non-psykers keeps rising. Sure we're probably not gonna see oops all psykers by the end of the quest, but like once you hit 10+ percent of the population it's gonna get complicated logistically, and possibly politically.
- Location
- colombia
Is gonna need a update
But i say we are on good track,a 90% ish percent of our psykers pass
And only 5% ish of them turn into chaos and harn stuff before being put down
I honestly see us reaching 95-98% pass rates by quest end
And 70% sucesfull putting down rates
At that point we can consider ourselves a psyker faction,and put more and more assets into psykers hands
- Location
- Europe
What are the chances of Be'lakor's assasins trying a decapitation strike on the High council, to at least kill Rotbart and take vengence on our attacks on the Kingdom of Confusion?
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Thozmp
Gets my kicks above the waistline, Sunshine.
The most horrible of thoughts. Jane completes the Witch Hunter, and ascends after a period of time, and Khorne tries to Isha Jane.
Nurgle has jealously, thats why he did that. Khorne would try and kill her. Because thats how he shows love.
Funny thing is.. With Jane's Transcendent being what it is Khorne can't forcibly corrupt Jane.
So his only option for corrupting her would genuinely BE trying to Isha Jane.
New questions and answers. Already huh.
1) How much of Ophelia's deployed forces are Tjapa crusade reinforcements, rough percentage?
1) 50%
2) they do
but a low one
3) Has Avernus worked with Unreality at all? I'd think it might be able to make use of the gribblies, maybe?
3) not really
4) Broadly speaking, is Unreality something that can really be worked with?
4) ditto
5) Can our Psyker do this?
5) yes but it would be a really bad way to kill someone
transmuting their blood to acid would be easier, and still a pretty ineffeient way
6) Are the Karthid, a praying mantis people briefly mentioned here and here alone with no other writeup, canon?
6) yes
7) Speaking of that omake, it's only listed as partly canon. What parts are noncanon? The Long Night Part One: Embers in the Dusk: A Planetary Governor Quest (43k) Complete Sequel Up
7) a few details about orkwings (their powers are not actualy fueled by emotion more then normal), The Dugr
8) Do you have a description of the Questing Beast Sir Pellinore was after, besides it being elusive? Was it even the same creature between encounters?
8) its a Unicorn
or rather, various different unicorns
9) could Maximal work with the people of Avernus, the Child of hate and develop a biological weapon that can be used against chaos space marines?
9) yes
10) its own specility
11) Do the Skinks have Cabals that research new Cataclysm Spells?
11) no
beyond them
12) omake question for the sect of united stars, would the Crons have allowed them to die on their own terms? Essentially species wide ritual suicide
12) not unless they were quick about it
13) Is Ishiro close enough to the Trust that it'd be viable for us to send forces to help the Triumvirate-aligned Orks win that civil war?
13) yes
14) Was Armstrong or anyone else from Kobas a clone directly made from Tranth, or were they just of that genetic line?
14) just of the line
15) How close is Lucius to breaking his record of longest continuous period spent without dying since he first got that blessing?
15) half a dozen centuries off
16) "Frederick, does N-Steps ahead let you predict the questions about to be asked?"
16) no
17) Out of curiosity, what's the largest human Titan that's used at this time?
17) Callamuys uses Imperators
18) How does the Dragon respond to the AO showing up a front? Is there anything that it can throw at him that slows him down?
18) it treats him as a annoynce and yes
19) Has AO gained any new traits fighting the Dragon?
19) unknown
1) Were the Necrons who destroyed the Sect of United Stars acting on the Silent King's orders, or were they just overly purge-happy and did it at a time while he and other Necron upper leadership were not really paying attention and didn't care enough to stop them?
1) Silent Kings Orders
1) Is there an explanation for why the Realm of the Fathers was not purged while the Sect was, if the idea was to get rid of genestealer descendants?
1) not as close to one of the final breakout attempts
1) Would the Tyranids have been able to subvert the Sect if they had gotten close enough, even though the genestealers would have been fully aware of and opposed to what was going on and likely with divine support?
1) unknown
2) do you have anything about the culture of the dynast who killed them fleshed out?
2) no
2) around what time where the sect killed?
2) shortly after being introduced
4) We have a timeline issue. The War in the Void ended by the Second Grand Conclave, and the Sect was only mentioned to convert to Faust after the Grand Ritual. Those two events are really close together, and the omake was actually written over two IRL years after the update saying the Nids were dead. Might want to reroll cause of death there.
4) still necrons, just not the silent king
It was a very high DC survival roll for anything tyranid related
1) Overzealous/paranoid purgers destroying what didn't actually need to be destroyed, basically?
1) sort of
More survivors or an incdibly brutal war deciding to get rid of something that has a one in a million chance of restarting it p
1) Did the Realm of the Fathers just get lucky there, or did them being insane lower the survival DC?
1) got lucky
1) Same for the Brood, or does them being significantly Kroot influenced reduce the DC a lot?
1) them being kroot reduced the DC a lot
they scan as a lot less nid more native biomonster
3) When the Doomed One showed up in the War in Heaven, was it exclusively on the side of the Old Ones' forces or random bystander groups caught in the crossfire, or did it sometimes help the Necrons/C'tan too when they were doing last stands?
3) always against the necrons
1) Did it just never show up when the Necrons were making last stands against the other side, or did it appear and still fight against them?
1) just never show up
its the lack of their Sa precence
it could not see their last stands
1) Is that also the case for blank species in general, or would a properly living race with intact souls be able to trigger a manifestation?
1) unknown
I will point out that manifestations in the materium before the Grand Ritual made it easier
happened maybe a dozen times
in tens of millions of years
4) How many Cityback Behemoths would we need for a breeding population?
4) hundreds
5) Is xenos using human tech still heresy these days (like it was back during the Quartok reverse-engineering scandal), or are the laws more lenient now?
5) more leinet now
6)Were Rotbarts wild ideas seen in universe as his way to vent out stress?
6) mostly
7) Maximal's opinion on these in terms of viability?
a) Improving Navigators further.
b) Improving existing psyker's power (Particularly minor psykers)
c) Improving existing psyker's control (Especially trainees)
d) Psygenetic Augmentation for Helguard+ compatible with Nynye Alkahestry?
7a) viable
7b) not how it works
7c) ditto
d) very, very hard
for B and C, he might be able to engineer psykers be he could not boost the power or control of existing psykers
2) So boosting other stats yes, boosting psychic power/control no?
2) yes
its theoretically possible
he just is not good enough to do it
reminder he trait makes the impossible possible, not allow him to do the near impossible
1) Could our Vortex weaponry be notably improved by our greater understanding of psychic creators?
1) no
3) What happened to the Sahaar, that species of small lizard xenos that was in the region when the Warp storm dissipated?
3) pert
2) Do I file their obituary under Thousand Lights or minor apocalypses?
2) maybe make a few file of idependents
as they dont really fit either
5) If I remember correctly this place got destroyed by the Drukhari. How much of the tech and psychic disciplines were they able to save? The Long Night Part One: Embers in the Dusk: A Planetary Governor Quest (43k) Complete Sequel Up
5) not much
6) If the Primordial Sea is the 4th wall, does that mean Chaos is Chaos by author fiat?
6) yes
1) Are angyls just a smidge harder to summon than daemons of other gods with equivalent power because of what the Coalition did?
1) no
1) Is it really more of a Triumvirate deva and the Doomed One are a tiny bit easier to summon than other Warp entities of equivalent power thing?
1) not really
1) With what we know now was Tjapa's attempt to lay claim to the veil doomed to begin with?
1) sort of
he could never have got total ontrol of it
he could have got more control of it
2) With how trait gain works in Embers, is Aria needing to reinvent the wheel as it were when it comes to Ka to her benefit when it comes to getting Ka traits quickly? Or are the Imperial Trust's other Ka users who are able to simply make use of her findings having a much easier time raising their Ka control?
2) not saying
3) How strong would a soft capped Aria (that is, 60 in combat + Ka & Sa power & control but no transcendent traits) be in comparison to the Great Gods of chaos?
3) not in their leuge
4) Is Time Amok to let artillery shoot twice as fast useful? Especially the new Macro-Artillery
4) no
5) Does Avernus meet the definition of "Old One"?
5) it does not
6) Can Time Amok be casted on ships, most notably PDR-SDRs, effectively doubling their firepower?
6) no
7) Can I suggest renaming the Angyl Prince of that flashpoint to something else, to avoid confusion with the Ophelian general who's still attacking Caridian?
7) intentional, Tjapan resue a lot of the same names
8) Could Tamai make a "Winner's keepers, losers weepers" ritual to buff defenders on Demon Worlds against chaos trying to retake them?
8a) Or would a more generic Defiance Ritual work better given Ruick's domains?
8) probebly
a) likely would
9) Typos: Threadmark has a missing space
9) thanks
10) Does trying to grow Warproot with the Primal or ka require a feasibility first, or can we jump straight into it next turn now that we have a supply to work with?
10) it will be an option next turn
11) Is the creation of the Star of Light and Hope during Be'lakor's binding of the gods a valid Cataclysm spell base?
a) Have they managed to give it a shorter name yet?
11) yes
a) no
12) Is there an additional conceptual advantage if a Cataclysm spell is cast by someone who was involved in the original spell it was based on?
12) unknown
13) Second paragraph incorrectly copied from prior turn, I think:
14) Do I count the shrine and slayer fairies as two different peoples, or lump them together as Deepwood Fairies?
14) lump them together
15) do any of our hell troopes have banishment runes applies for this deployment to the unchained front?
15) all of the ones ont he front do
16) Is the Western Front, once again, guaranteed to fall if we don't choose to have Avernites hold it with no one else besides the locals being willing or able to contribute anything?
16) yes
17) Does Muspelsheim get Psykers nowadays from immigrants reintroducing the genes?
17) a few
18) Is Sorcery flatly harder against The Eldar and Triumvirate because they don't subcribe to the Narrative of Sorcery?
18) not really
19) Is examining Frederick's fief on Asgard a Knowing Avernus or Knowing the Trust action?
19) eiter
20) Helltrooper APA should be at 20/28 years rather than be completed.
20) thanks
2) Did we already check with the Slayer Fairies during our diplomacy and trade deals with the Shrine Fairies, and find that there wasn't anything they could offer us?
2) you did
3) Are Ork invocations of 'Moar Dakka' a viable Cataclysm Spell base?
3) no
1) Do we have a Cataclysm spell Slann plugging away at integrating culture spirit IFF right now?
1) yes
1) Would Kop'eep'aste work as a name for them? (It's a riff off how Cataclysm spells fundamentally call on the echoes of something else. I originally wanted to use a pun for "echo", but thought it might sound too similar to Ekkeko the crafter)
1) it would
2) Is the next update the Unchained campaign or High Council meeting?
2) unchained
3) Are the trees summoned by Gardener's Warcry different species, or are they consistently the same type of tree every time the spell is cast, no matter by whom?
3) speices varies by caster and planet
1) With how psychic creaters are best at burst-based power effects, how much firepower could a PA that's basically just a gun output?
1) you mean psychic archetecture?
it sucks as burst effects
1) I meant a psychic creator effect, oops
1) depends on scale and type
but you have seen them
they are called D Weapons
1) Are the other Chaos gods paying attention to Tjapa and Be'lakor at all at this point, or have they completely forgotten already and are just ignoring them to continue a Great Game of four?
1) they are but not enough
2) what kind of powers are best suited for converstion to psychihc creators? high control low power, high power low control, etc?
2) lower control powers
3) Does the Rain-Calling Frog's charging power work with psychic creators, or does it need an actual psyker?
3) needs an acutal psyker
4) How many civilians remain on the western front?
4) tens of billions
4) For reference, is that still only partly evacuated, or is that sector more like a ghost town outside of the garrisons at this point?
4) partially evacuated
at around 25% of the inital pop left
5) Actually, at a base, what could Maximal achieve with a psy-biological augment?
5) relaibly giving poeple access to an Avernite psychic power as an innate psychic power
with limits of course
1) So remember when Vlad told us about some powerful healing herbs on the southern continent, and we later asked him to fetch some for healing Guilliman? Is that something we can more easily acquire samples of now, or are they still just as difficult to get?
1) you can ask the Skinks for some
they grow them
(the southern continent is the lizard continent)
1) Can we only acquire just enough for examinations, or could we also swing it into a trade deal where we get enough to potentially start growing them too if we figure out how?
1) you cold get enough to start trading
2) Have Maximal's discoveries on the Psyker Genome been transmitted to Cawl and Emps? If so, how have they responded?
2) yes
rather impressed
3) Is it an I Paragon that's something along the lines of 'make people think you have an (other stat) Paragon' or 'make people think you have an I Transcendent' plausible?
3) yes
5) What percentage of Quartus Guard has Power Armour?
5) a fifth
their grenadier eqiuvilents
6) Will Hajek have a narrative advantage over Lord-Militant Aurulius if he deploys to Caridian again? (From winning the first time)
a) Which way does the advantage/disadvantage of Hajek vs Lord-Militant Aurulius swing from both being known to the other now (in generalship style)?
6) a minor one yes
a) hard to predict
1) Is it possible for us to acquire tissue samples from the Anatolian(either old or new body)?
1) no
you are told he is genetically standard though
1) 50%
2) In that case do the Night Lords background rolls even have the potential to ever be relevant at all? Or did you give them some sort of bonus on account that their intrigue was so unbelievably good that even the QM didn't know what they were up to?
2) they do
but a low one
3) Has Avernus worked with Unreality at all? I'd think it might be able to make use of the gribblies, maybe?
3) not really
4) Broadly speaking, is Unreality something that can really be worked with?
4) ditto
5) Can our Psyker do this?
5) yes but it would be a really bad way to kill someone
transmuting their blood to acid would be easier, and still a pretty ineffeient way
6) Are the Karthid, a praying mantis people briefly mentioned here and here alone with no other writeup, canon?
6) yes
7) Speaking of that omake, it's only listed as partly canon. What parts are noncanon? The Long Night Part One: Embers in the Dusk: A Planetary Governor Quest (43k) Complete Sequel Up
7) a few details about orkwings (their powers are not actualy fueled by emotion more then normal), The Dugr
8) Do you have a description of the Questing Beast Sir Pellinore was after, besides it being elusive? Was it even the same creature between encounters?
8) its a Unicorn
or rather, various different unicorns
9) could Maximal work with the people of Avernus, the Child of hate and develop a biological weapon that can be used against chaos space marines?
9) yes
10) Is that its own specialty, or just a Wind or High Magic specialist?
10) its own specility
11) Do the Skinks have Cabals that research new Cataclysm Spells?
11) no
beyond them
12) omake question for the sect of united stars, would the Crons have allowed them to die on their own terms? Essentially species wide ritual suicide
12) not unless they were quick about it
13) Is Ishiro close enough to the Trust that it'd be viable for us to send forces to help the Triumvirate-aligned Orks win that civil war?
13) yes
14) Was Armstrong or anyone else from Kobas a clone directly made from Tranth, or were they just of that genetic line?
14) just of the line
15) How close is Lucius to breaking his record of longest continuous period spent without dying since he first got that blessing?
15) half a dozen centuries off
16) "Frederick, does N-Steps ahead let you predict the questions about to be asked?"
16) no
17) Out of curiosity, what's the largest human Titan that's used at this time?
17) Callamuys uses Imperators
18) How does the Dragon respond to the AO showing up a front? Is there anything that it can throw at him that slows him down?
18) it treats him as a annoynce and yes
19) Has AO gained any new traits fighting the Dragon?
19) unknown
1) Were the Necrons who destroyed the Sect of United Stars acting on the Silent King's orders, or were they just overly purge-happy and did it at a time while he and other Necron upper leadership were not really paying attention and didn't care enough to stop them?
1) Silent Kings Orders
1) Is there an explanation for why the Realm of the Fathers was not purged while the Sect was, if the idea was to get rid of genestealer descendants?
1) not as close to one of the final breakout attempts
1) Would the Tyranids have been able to subvert the Sect if they had gotten close enough, even though the genestealers would have been fully aware of and opposed to what was going on and likely with divine support?
1) unknown
2) do you have anything about the culture of the dynast who killed them fleshed out?
2) no
2) around what time where the sect killed?
2) shortly after being introduced
4) We have a timeline issue. The War in the Void ended by the Second Grand Conclave, and the Sect was only mentioned to convert to Faust after the Grand Ritual. Those two events are really close together, and the omake was actually written over two IRL years after the update saying the Nids were dead. Might want to reroll cause of death there.
4) still necrons, just not the silent king
It was a very high DC survival roll for anything tyranid related
1) Overzealous/paranoid purgers destroying what didn't actually need to be destroyed, basically?
1) sort of
More survivors or an incdibly brutal war deciding to get rid of something that has a one in a million chance of restarting it p
1) Did the Realm of the Fathers just get lucky there, or did them being insane lower the survival DC?
1) got lucky
1) Same for the Brood, or does them being significantly Kroot influenced reduce the DC a lot?
1) them being kroot reduced the DC a lot
they scan as a lot less nid more native biomonster
3) When the Doomed One showed up in the War in Heaven, was it exclusively on the side of the Old Ones' forces or random bystander groups caught in the crossfire, or did it sometimes help the Necrons/C'tan too when they were doing last stands?
3) always against the necrons
1) Did it just never show up when the Necrons were making last stands against the other side, or did it appear and still fight against them?
1) just never show up
its the lack of their Sa precence
it could not see their last stands
1) Is that also the case for blank species in general, or would a properly living race with intact souls be able to trigger a manifestation?
1) unknown
I will point out that manifestations in the materium before the Grand Ritual made it easier
happened maybe a dozen times
in tens of millions of years
4) How many Cityback Behemoths would we need for a breeding population?
4) hundreds
5) Is xenos using human tech still heresy these days (like it was back during the Quartok reverse-engineering scandal), or are the laws more lenient now?
5) more leinet now
6)Were Rotbarts wild ideas seen in universe as his way to vent out stress?
6) mostly
7) Maximal's opinion on these in terms of viability?
a) Improving Navigators further.
b) Improving existing psyker's power (Particularly minor psykers)
c) Improving existing psyker's control (Especially trainees)
d) Psygenetic Augmentation for Helguard+ compatible with Nynye Alkahestry?
7a) viable
7b) not how it works
7c) ditto
d) very, very hard
for B and C, he might be able to engineer psykers be he could not boost the power or control of existing psykers
2) So boosting other stats yes, boosting psychic power/control no?
2) yes
its theoretically possible
he just is not good enough to do it
reminder he trait makes the impossible possible, not allow him to do the near impossible
1) Could our Vortex weaponry be notably improved by our greater understanding of psychic creators?
1) no
3) What happened to the Sahaar, that species of small lizard xenos that was in the region when the Warp storm dissipated?
3) pert
2) Do I file their obituary under Thousand Lights or minor apocalypses?
2) maybe make a few file of idependents
as they dont really fit either
5) If I remember correctly this place got destroyed by the Drukhari. How much of the tech and psychic disciplines were they able to save? The Long Night Part One: Embers in the Dusk: A Planetary Governor Quest (43k) Complete Sequel Up
5) not much
6) If the Primordial Sea is the 4th wall, does that mean Chaos is Chaos by author fiat?
6) yes
1) Are angyls just a smidge harder to summon than daemons of other gods with equivalent power because of what the Coalition did?
1) no
1) Is it really more of a Triumvirate deva and the Doomed One are a tiny bit easier to summon than other Warp entities of equivalent power thing?
1) not really
1) With what we know now was Tjapa's attempt to lay claim to the veil doomed to begin with?
1) sort of
he could never have got total ontrol of it
he could have got more control of it
2) With how trait gain works in Embers, is Aria needing to reinvent the wheel as it were when it comes to Ka to her benefit when it comes to getting Ka traits quickly? Or are the Imperial Trust's other Ka users who are able to simply make use of her findings having a much easier time raising their Ka control?
2) not saying
3) How strong would a soft capped Aria (that is, 60 in combat + Ka & Sa power & control but no transcendent traits) be in comparison to the Great Gods of chaos?
3) not in their leuge
4) Is Time Amok to let artillery shoot twice as fast useful? Especially the new Macro-Artillery
4) no
5) Does Avernus meet the definition of "Old One"?
5) it does not
6) Can Time Amok be casted on ships, most notably PDR-SDRs, effectively doubling their firepower?
6) no
7) Can I suggest renaming the Angyl Prince of that flashpoint to something else, to avoid confusion with the Ophelian general who's still attacking Caridian?
7) intentional, Tjapan resue a lot of the same names
8) Could Tamai make a "Winner's keepers, losers weepers" ritual to buff defenders on Demon Worlds against chaos trying to retake them?
8a) Or would a more generic Defiance Ritual work better given Ruick's domains?
8) probebly
a) likely would
9) Typos: Threadmark has a missing space
Last; growth; Helheim; Missing break to next item
army's
Callamus
Tranth
targets
analyze
pretty
Assassins
Avernus
9) thanks
10) Does trying to grow Warproot with the Primal or ka require a feasibility first, or can we jump straight into it next turn now that we have a supply to work with?
10) it will be an option next turn
11) Is the creation of the Star of Light and Hope during Be'lakor's binding of the gods a valid Cataclysm spell base?
a) Have they managed to give it a shorter name yet?
11) yes
a) no
12) Is there an additional conceptual advantage if a Cataclysm spell is cast by someone who was involved in the original spell it was based on?
12) unknown
13) Second paragraph incorrectly copied from prior turn, I think:
13) it is
14) Do I count the shrine and slayer fairies as two different peoples, or lump them together as Deepwood Fairies?
14) lump them together
15) do any of our hell troopes have banishment runes applies for this deployment to the unchained front?
15) all of the ones ont he front do
16) Is the Western Front, once again, guaranteed to fall if we don't choose to have Avernites hold it with no one else besides the locals being willing or able to contribute anything?
16) yes
17) Does Muspelsheim get Psykers nowadays from immigrants reintroducing the genes?
17) a few
18) Is Sorcery flatly harder against The Eldar and Triumvirate because they don't subcribe to the Narrative of Sorcery?
18) not really
19) Is examining Frederick's fief on Asgard a Knowing Avernus or Knowing the Trust action?
19) eiter
20) Helltrooper APA should be at 20/28 years rather than be completed.
20) thanks
2) Did we already check with the Slayer Fairies during our diplomacy and trade deals with the Shrine Fairies, and find that there wasn't anything they could offer us?
2) you did
3) Are Ork invocations of 'Moar Dakka' a viable Cataclysm Spell base?
3) no
1) Do we have a Cataclysm spell Slann plugging away at integrating culture spirit IFF right now?
1) yes
1) Would Kop'eep'aste work as a name for them? (It's a riff off how Cataclysm spells fundamentally call on the echoes of something else. I originally wanted to use a pun for "echo", but thought it might sound too similar to Ekkeko the crafter)
1) it would
2) Is the next update the Unchained campaign or High Council meeting?
2) unchained
3) Are the trees summoned by Gardener's Warcry different species, or are they consistently the same type of tree every time the spell is cast, no matter by whom?
3) speices varies by caster and planet
1) With how psychic creaters are best at burst-based power effects, how much firepower could a PA that's basically just a gun output?
1) you mean psychic archetecture?
it sucks as burst effects
1) I meant a psychic creator effect, oops
1) depends on scale and type
but you have seen them
they are called D Weapons
1) Are the other Chaos gods paying attention to Tjapa and Be'lakor at all at this point, or have they completely forgotten already and are just ignoring them to continue a Great Game of four?
1) they are but not enough
2) what kind of powers are best suited for converstion to psychihc creators? high control low power, high power low control, etc?
2) lower control powers
3) Does the Rain-Calling Frog's charging power work with psychic creators, or does it need an actual psyker?
3) needs an acutal psyker
4) How many civilians remain on the western front?
4) tens of billions
4) For reference, is that still only partly evacuated, or is that sector more like a ghost town outside of the garrisons at this point?
4) partially evacuated
at around 25% of the inital pop left
5) Actually, at a base, what could Maximal achieve with a psy-biological augment?
5) relaibly giving poeple access to an Avernite psychic power as an innate psychic power
with limits of course
1) So remember when Vlad told us about some powerful healing herbs on the southern continent, and we later asked him to fetch some for healing Guilliman? Is that something we can more easily acquire samples of now, or are they still just as difficult to get?
1) you can ask the Skinks for some
they grow them
(the southern continent is the lizard continent)
1) Can we only acquire just enough for examinations, or could we also swing it into a trade deal where we get enough to potentially start growing them too if we figure out how?
1) you cold get enough to start trading
2) Have Maximal's discoveries on the Psyker Genome been transmitted to Cawl and Emps? If so, how have they responded?
2) yes
rather impressed
3) Is it an I Paragon that's something along the lines of 'make people think you have an (other stat) Paragon' or 'make people think you have an I Transcendent' plausible?
3) yes
5) What percentage of Quartus Guard has Power Armour?
5) a fifth
their grenadier eqiuvilents
6) Will Hajek have a narrative advantage over Lord-Militant Aurulius if he deploys to Caridian again? (From winning the first time)
a) Which way does the advantage/disadvantage of Hajek vs Lord-Militant Aurulius swing from both being known to the other now (in generalship style)?
6) a minor one yes
a) hard to predict
1) Is it possible for us to acquire tissue samples from the Anatolian(either old or new body)?
1) no
you are told he is genetically standard though
Turn Four Flashpoints
- Location
- Alice Springs, Australia
Turn Four Flashpoints
The Zortheon Uprising
The Zortheon Uprising is a revolutionary group in a recently conquered Hive World now deep behind Theocracy lines. Its location and environment will allow you to smuggle only small amounts of aid to this world. Still, the addition of Avernite elites should be able to make the tyrants fear the dark and need to deploy notable forces to keep the uprising contained. This is a fight for those who can hide in the twisting passages of the underhives and for quality over quantity.
Victory here will tie up a significant number of enemy forces keeping the Hivee World under control and allow you to bleed off some of their elites.
Defeat will free up much of the current garrison, allowing for them to return to the frontlines.
Minimum Forces: No minimum
Other functional forces: Helguard+ Infantry, up to 10 Corps total
Encouraged Forces: Primaris Execution Forces, Battle Psyker Corps, Riksjeager, Psyker Choir, Cataclysm Casters, Helguard Infiltrator Corps
Discouraged Forces: Anything else
The Princes Challange
Angyl Prince Aurelius, who, with the aid of shadowy sorceries, has been able to offer a challenge via battle to regain control over Tankor III, which was once his daemonworld. This battle will be fought via proxies on the world without either side being able to twist the world in its favour, and a loss here will be a blow against the Deva World Network as a whole and provide a staging ground deep within Unchained territory to its foes.
This will be a field battle against an Angylic Host on a Warp-touched world, so Helltroopers and over should be deployed given their Runes of Banishment.
Victory here will cripple an Honoured Angyl Prince.
Defeat here will weaken the Deva World Trading Network and provide the enemy a secure staging ground/warp bypass deep within Unchained territory.
Minimum Forces: 200 Corps 1 General
Other functional forces: any, up to 500 Corps total
Encouraged Forces: Helguard Beastmaster Division, Battle Psykers
Discouraged Forces: PDF, Infiltrator Corps, Light Agressor Corps, Boarding Corps, Primal Agressor Corps
Battle of Kolora Minor
At Kolora Minor Warmaster Elapix the Dutiful marches on an Unchained Hive world whose defences have yet to recover from the uprising.
This will be a field battle against a Black Imperium army, including the Legio Vulpix so a large number of anti-Titan forces would be advised. The Uncahined have enough forces nearby to bulk up your numbers while a detachment of Blood Angels should be enough to deal with the enemy Astartes.
Victory here will cripple one of the finite number of intact Black Imperium Task Forces that follow the Tyrant.
Defeat here will see an entire Hive World of the Unchained captured by the forces of Chaos.
Minimum Forces: 200 Corps 1 General
Other functional forces: any, up to 500 Corps total
Encouraged Forces: Jomsjaeger Corps, Titans (any type), Crusher Corps, Aggressor Corps, Armoured Corps, Ground Patrol Corps,
Discouraged Forces: Urban Corps, Infiltrator Corps, Landing Corps, Light Agressor Corps, Boarding Corps, Primal Agressor Corps
The Battle of Caridian
Lord-Militant Aurulius is not the type to give up, as he has gathered another army and is having a second try to destroy Caridian. This will require a similar kind of force as the First Battle of Caridian, though hopefully, you will be able to win it without causing too much more damage to the agri-world food production.
Victory here will see another enemy field army crushed.
Defeat here will result in either a massive amount of naval assets will be tasked with ferrying food supplies to the sector, or an entire sector starving.
This will be a field battle against what is considered an elite force by this war's standards, so it is a perfect place for Crusher and Hellflame formations and a poor place for stealth formations.
Minimum Forces: 200 Corps 1 General
Other functional forces: any, up to 1000 Corps total
Encouraged Forces: Crusher Corps, Aggressor Corps, Helflame Corps
Discouraged Forces: Infiltrator Corps, Light Agressor Corps, Boarding Corps,
The Defence of the Western Front
Another wave of assaults is coming to the Volaghos Sector. However, this time holding it is less critical as much of the population has already died or been evacuated, and the next sector in has started to be fortified.
You can play this defence in two main ways: deploy a massive force and weather the assault, or deploy a smaller force and make the attackers bleed for every world they take, limiting their ability to push deeper into Unchained territory.
If you want to hold the front, you will want to deploy everything you can to it and expect to take severe losses doing so. Halting the crusade in its tracks like this would both protect a significant portion of the Unchained from conquest and remove a notable amount of the reinforcements that the Shadowlord has gained by pulling out of the Black Imperium from the board.
If you want to make them bleed, you will conduct a mix of fortified strongpoints that you can evacuate via Tallship and harassment campaigns. Doing so would weaken the crusade to allow it to be dealt with later and limit immediate losses, most likely to a single sector.
[] Western Front: Hold
Minimum Forces: 3000 Corps, 3 Generals
Other functional forces: any,
Encouraged Forces: Everything
Discouraged Forces: Nothing
[] Western Front: Bleed
Minimum Forces: 500 Corps of Urban Corps, Infiltrator Corps, Light Agressor Corps, Stealth Air Corps, Skitrii Corps, 1 General
Other functional forces: any, up to 1000 Corps total
Encouraged Forces: Infiltrator Corps, Light Agressor Corps, Stealth Air Corps, Primal Corps, Cataclysm Psykers, Primaris Execution Forces
Discouraged Forces: Heavy Agressor Corps, Landing Corps, Crusher Corps, Knights, Titans, Armoured Corps, Air
Avernite Military Forces
The Zortheon Uprising
The Zortheon Uprising is a revolutionary group in a recently conquered Hive World now deep behind Theocracy lines. Its location and environment will allow you to smuggle only small amounts of aid to this world. Still, the addition of Avernite elites should be able to make the tyrants fear the dark and need to deploy notable forces to keep the uprising contained. This is a fight for those who can hide in the twisting passages of the underhives and for quality over quantity.
Victory here will tie up a significant number of enemy forces keeping the Hivee World under control and allow you to bleed off some of their elites.
Defeat will free up much of the current garrison, allowing for them to return to the frontlines.
Minimum Forces: No minimum
Other functional forces: Helguard+ Infantry, up to 10 Corps total
Encouraged Forces: Primaris Execution Forces, Battle Psyker Corps, Riksjeager, Psyker Choir, Cataclysm Casters, Helguard Infiltrator Corps
Discouraged Forces: Anything else
The Princes Challange
Angyl Prince Aurelius, who, with the aid of shadowy sorceries, has been able to offer a challenge via battle to regain control over Tankor III, which was once his daemonworld. This battle will be fought via proxies on the world without either side being able to twist the world in its favour, and a loss here will be a blow against the Deva World Network as a whole and provide a staging ground deep within Unchained territory to its foes.
This will be a field battle against an Angylic Host on a Warp-touched world, so Helltroopers and over should be deployed given their Runes of Banishment.
Victory here will cripple an Honoured Angyl Prince.
Defeat here will weaken the Deva World Trading Network and provide the enemy a secure staging ground/warp bypass deep within Unchained territory.
Minimum Forces: 200 Corps 1 General
Other functional forces: any, up to 500 Corps total
Encouraged Forces: Helguard Beastmaster Division, Battle Psykers
Discouraged Forces: PDF, Infiltrator Corps, Light Agressor Corps, Boarding Corps, Primal Agressor Corps
Battle of Kolora Minor
At Kolora Minor Warmaster Elapix the Dutiful marches on an Unchained Hive world whose defences have yet to recover from the uprising.
This will be a field battle against a Black Imperium army, including the Legio Vulpix so a large number of anti-Titan forces would be advised. The Uncahined have enough forces nearby to bulk up your numbers while a detachment of Blood Angels should be enough to deal with the enemy Astartes.
Victory here will cripple one of the finite number of intact Black Imperium Task Forces that follow the Tyrant.
Defeat here will see an entire Hive World of the Unchained captured by the forces of Chaos.
Minimum Forces: 200 Corps 1 General
Other functional forces: any, up to 500 Corps total
Encouraged Forces: Jomsjaeger Corps, Titans (any type), Crusher Corps, Aggressor Corps, Armoured Corps, Ground Patrol Corps,
Discouraged Forces: Urban Corps, Infiltrator Corps, Landing Corps, Light Agressor Corps, Boarding Corps, Primal Agressor Corps
The Battle of Caridian
Lord-Militant Aurulius is not the type to give up, as he has gathered another army and is having a second try to destroy Caridian. This will require a similar kind of force as the First Battle of Caridian, though hopefully, you will be able to win it without causing too much more damage to the agri-world food production.
Victory here will see another enemy field army crushed.
Defeat here will result in either a massive amount of naval assets will be tasked with ferrying food supplies to the sector, or an entire sector starving.
This will be a field battle against what is considered an elite force by this war's standards, so it is a perfect place for Crusher and Hellflame formations and a poor place for stealth formations.
Minimum Forces: 200 Corps 1 General
Other functional forces: any, up to 1000 Corps total
Encouraged Forces: Crusher Corps, Aggressor Corps, Helflame Corps
Discouraged Forces: Infiltrator Corps, Light Agressor Corps, Boarding Corps,
The Defence of the Western Front
Another wave of assaults is coming to the Volaghos Sector. However, this time holding it is less critical as much of the population has already died or been evacuated, and the next sector in has started to be fortified.
You can play this defence in two main ways: deploy a massive force and weather the assault, or deploy a smaller force and make the attackers bleed for every world they take, limiting their ability to push deeper into Unchained territory.
If you want to hold the front, you will want to deploy everything you can to it and expect to take severe losses doing so. Halting the crusade in its tracks like this would both protect a significant portion of the Unchained from conquest and remove a notable amount of the reinforcements that the Shadowlord has gained by pulling out of the Black Imperium from the board.
If you want to make them bleed, you will conduct a mix of fortified strongpoints that you can evacuate via Tallship and harassment campaigns. Doing so would weaken the crusade to allow it to be dealt with later and limit immediate losses, most likely to a single sector.
[] Western Front: Hold
Minimum Forces: 3000 Corps, 3 Generals
Other functional forces: any,
Encouraged Forces: Everything
Discouraged Forces: Nothing
[] Western Front: Bleed
Minimum Forces: 500 Corps of Urban Corps, Infiltrator Corps, Light Agressor Corps, Stealth Air Corps, Skitrii Corps, 1 General
Other functional forces: any, up to 1000 Corps total
Encouraged Forces: Infiltrator Corps, Light Agressor Corps, Stealth Air Corps, Primal Corps, Cataclysm Psykers, Primaris Execution Forces
Discouraged Forces: Heavy Agressor Corps, Landing Corps, Crusher Corps, Knights, Titans, Armoured Corps, Air
Avernite Military Forces
Lord- General Rakes
General Hajek
General Herman
General Strumpf
General Ozolinsh
General Ericsson
Grandmaster Xavier
ChampionOakheart
General Hajek
General Herman
General Strumpf
General Ozolinsh
General Ericsson
Grandmaster Xavier
ChampionOakheart
| Battle Psykers | 73 |
| Primaris Execution Forces | 90 |
| Psy-knight Corps | 32 |
| Battle Psyker Corps | 41 |
| Psyker Choir | 3,457 |
| Cataclysm Casters | 1,884 |
| Heljeagers | 56 |
| Lifeguard Corps | 1.7 |
| Jomsjaeger Corps | 8.6 |
| Riksjaeger Corps | 13.8 |
| Tranth Patten Titan Battlegroups | 17.8 |
| Callamus Titan Battlegroups | 14.6 |
| Sky Dragon Corps | 0.02 |
| Helguard | 113 |
| Helguard Urban Corps | 26 |
| Helguard Aggressor Corps | 47 |
| Helguard Infiltrator Corps | 11 |
| Helguard Stealth Air Corps | 6 |
| Helguard Crusher Corps | 11 |
| Helguard Beastmaster Division | 6 |
| Helguard Hellflame Corps | 6 |
| Helltrooper | 722 |
| Helltrooper Heavy Agressor Corps | 237 |
| Helltrooper Light Agressor Corps | 237 |
| Helltrooper Landing Corps | 68 |
| Helltrooper Boarding Corps | 34 |
| Helltrooper Air Superiority Corps | 34 |
| Primal Agressor Corps | 101 |
| Skitrii Corps | 13 |
| 3,442 | |
| PDF Urban Corps | 1,948 |
| PDF Rapid Reaction Corps | 122 |
| PDF Ground Patrol Corps | 122 |
| PDF Aerial Patrol Corp | 122 |
| PDF Armoured Corps | 122 |
| Knight Corps | 0.7 |
| Tech Guard Corps | 1,006 |
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- Location
- Alice Springs, Australia
some nice glimpses of the Avernites at war
you have managed to cut to the heart of The Long Night with this Haiku
birdmaster01
Big Tech's Strongest Soldier
[Cancelled] Go join the brushfire wars that dot the Kingdom of Brass and Skulls
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- Location
- Australia
That threadmark was from January. The sidequest has already concluded.
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Shard
One and Many
- Location
- Malaysia
[X] Plan Shard's Okay Force Distribution
Force Distribution: As here
Front Notes
Zortheon Uprising: Choirs and Cata Casters are at basically the cap for helpfulness.
Prince's Challenge: Narrative is super important on a Daemonworld; PDF wind up as faceless masses. Firepower, 1000 Choirs would have been enough to take out like half of the locations on Valinor.
Caridian Pt 2: Aurulius' given reason for losing the 1st Battle of Caridian is unreasonable number of psykers, to which the counter is massed Astartes to which the counter-counter is massed Riksjaeger.
Western Front Pt2: Is there even a counter to a Primal Corps appearing behind you and dropping 20 volcanoes on your army before leaving?
Stunts
Zortheon Uprising: Rogue Alphas were the terror of Avernus once, especially empowered by the Chaos Gods. Cataclysm Psykers and Psyker Choirs was all the problems of that, in a mastered manner. Oh boy there were a lot of them.
Prince's Challenge: It was the Gilded Skies over again. But this time the battlefield was so very different. An Angyl Prince was no substitute at all for the 1st Circle Archangyls that had brought Dis so low. Not when Hysh Cataclysm spells were tossed with wild abandon.
Kolora Minor: Titans, as a rule, are ponderous and slow. In a titan duel between legions this might not matter much, except when Cataclysm psykers casted multiple Unbending Walls and started dividing the giant legion into small, bite-sized pieces while Bridge of Shadows relocated divisionsnto exploit. Then it mattered a lot.
Battle of Caridian 2: Lord-Militant Aurulius had returned, and General Erwin Hajek was there to meet him again. The warp expected the same outcome as the first battle, already giving him a minor advantage. Plus he had more forces available than the first time around. That should reduce casualties.
Western Front Pt 2 (Bleed): All that were left were the ones too old, who let the younger take the spots on the evacuation vessels. The ones too stubborn to leave. The ones who had seen the face of the Ophelian Theocracy and were prepared to give up everything to prevent it.
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Plan Notes:
- No general on the uprising because fundamentally it's very tiny.
- Maxed forces on every front except the Daemonworld.
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The Force distribution is about 80%ish done, there will be some edits, but here's the plan as is.
There's not enough forces to hold the Western Front again (nor a lot of reason to do so really), but on the upside it does mean that we have the forces to very cleanly crush all the other Flashpoints.
Force Distribution: As here
Front Notes
Zortheon Uprising: Choirs and Cata Casters are at basically the cap for helpfulness.
Prince's Challenge: Narrative is super important on a Daemonworld; PDF wind up as faceless masses. Firepower, 1000 Choirs would have been enough to take out like half of the locations on Valinor.
Caridian Pt 2: Aurulius' given reason for losing the 1st Battle of Caridian is unreasonable number of psykers, to which the counter is massed Astartes to which the counter-counter is massed Riksjaeger.
Western Front Pt2: Is there even a counter to a Primal Corps appearing behind you and dropping 20 volcanoes on your army before leaving?
Stunts
Zortheon Uprising: Rogue Alphas were the terror of Avernus once, especially empowered by the Chaos Gods. Cataclysm Psykers and Psyker Choirs was all the problems of that, in a mastered manner. Oh boy there were a lot of them.
Prince's Challenge: It was the Gilded Skies over again. But this time the battlefield was so very different. An Angyl Prince was no substitute at all for the 1st Circle Archangyls that had brought Dis so low. Not when Hysh Cataclysm spells were tossed with wild abandon.
Kolora Minor: Titans, as a rule, are ponderous and slow. In a titan duel between legions this might not matter much, except when Cataclysm psykers casted multiple Unbending Walls and started dividing the giant legion into small, bite-sized pieces while Bridge of Shadows relocated divisionsnto exploit. Then it mattered a lot.
Battle of Caridian 2: Lord-Militant Aurulius had returned, and General Erwin Hajek was there to meet him again. The warp expected the same outcome as the first battle, already giving him a minor advantage. Plus he had more forces available than the first time around. That should reduce casualties.
Western Front Pt 2 (Bleed): All that were left were the ones too old, who let the younger take the spots on the evacuation vessels. The ones too stubborn to leave. The ones who had seen the face of the Ophelian Theocracy and were prepared to give up everything to prevent it.
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Plan Notes:
- No general on the uprising because fundamentally it's very tiny.
- Maxed forces on every front except the Daemonworld.
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The Force distribution is about 80%ish done, there will be some edits, but here's the plan as is.
There's not enough forces to hold the Western Front again (nor a lot of reason to do so really), but on the upside it does mean that we have the forces to very cleanly crush all the other Flashpoints.
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- Location
- Omniverse #1345
[X] Plan Shard's Okay Force Distribution
- Location
- USA
[X] Plan Shard's Okay Force Distribution
[X] Plan Shard's Okay Force Distribution
- Location
- Elsewhere
[X] Plan Shard's Okay Force Distribution