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Get Jinxed: A Tale of Mental Instability and Poor Decisions (Arcane/League of Legends)
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That at least explains why people are possibly treating this as snitching.
Because my comparison to this is - well a friend and the friend's boyfriend are using a hang out with a third person as a makeout session. And someone else walks in. With the only cover story being it's for a play - when the someone in question is one of the managers for the local play house.
If this was Caitlyn's father it'd be a different story. But Cassandra knows what the tech is, the current amount of control people have over it (like yeah random nine year old using it without issues is not convincing) and deals with adults trying to trick her or outplay her on a daily basis.
Seraphine is already outed by the situation. This is just picking something to convince Cassandra to not tell anyone.
... I keep forgetting that the 11 year old is the reasonable person when it comes to the Hextech Research group.
ColdGoldLazarus
Contrary Quester, Spreadsheet Queen, Pink Flamingo
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- Challenger Deep
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- She/Her
[X][Seraphine] Deny Everything: What Magic? That Was Just My New Hextech Thing!
[ ][Seraphine] Ask Mrs. Kiramman to keep this secret.
Might approval vote for deny or ask to keep the secret, but currently leaning towards deny. We're eleven, even a bold-faced lie like that feels like something we can get away with lol. And it's a riskier option in some ways, but I did say last arc that I'd start taking the riskier angles once we're Jinx, so time to start putting my money where my mouth is on that front.
[ ][Undercity] Invite Caitlyn
[X][Undercity] Invite Seraphine and Caitlyn
As for the Undercity, I'm absolutely in favor of taking Cait no matter what - she's good backup, from an in-character standpoint; and she needs to get that walkabout for empathy-building, from a metagamey standpoint. If she sees the kind of shit the Enforcers get up to down there, too, that may help with the Cop talk later. And yeah, getting her to meet Ekko will be good on a lot of levels. New sister, meet my future boyfriend. Future boyfriend, meet my new sister.
(Need to figure out a good ship name for combination Timebomb, Boombox, Lightcannon, and maybe Shockgrenade. I'm firmly in favor of Pan Poly Jinx Harem in case it wasn't clear lol)
I'm more torn on Seraphine, though. On one hand, she's even younger than we are, still doesn't have a handle on her magic hearing, and the undercity is in a state of unusual turmoil that's going to hit her even harder than normal. Plus if someone directly goes after us, as much as I hate to say it, she might be kind of a liability for those reasons.
On the other hand, I don't like the idea of being someone who sticks our friends in a box for their own protection. And as far as age goes, by that logic Powder was too young for the undercity too. (Which now that I type that out loud isn't really incorrect per say, but still.) At the very least, one quick jaunt in and out won't be the end of the world for her, probably. And while Empathy isn't a problem for her the way it is for most Pilties, it still wouldn't hurt for her to see where her parents came from, good and bad and everything in between.
[ ][Seraphine] Ask Mrs. Kiramman to keep this secret.
Might approval vote for deny or ask to keep the secret, but currently leaning towards deny. We're eleven, even a bold-faced lie like that feels like something we can get away with lol. And it's a riskier option in some ways, but I did say last arc that I'd start taking the riskier angles once we're Jinx, so time to start putting my money where my mouth is on that front.
[ ][Undercity] Invite Caitlyn
[X][Undercity] Invite Seraphine and Caitlyn
As for the Undercity, I'm absolutely in favor of taking Cait no matter what - she's good backup, from an in-character standpoint; and she needs to get that walkabout for empathy-building, from a metagamey standpoint. If she sees the kind of shit the Enforcers get up to down there, too, that may help with the Cop talk later. And yeah, getting her to meet Ekko will be good on a lot of levels. New sister, meet my future boyfriend. Future boyfriend, meet my new sister.
(Need to figure out a good ship name for combination Timebomb, Boombox, Lightcannon, and maybe Shockgrenade. I'm firmly in favor of Pan Poly Jinx Harem in case it wasn't clear lol)
I'm more torn on Seraphine, though. On one hand, she's even younger than we are, still doesn't have a handle on her magic hearing, and the undercity is in a state of unusual turmoil that's going to hit her even harder than normal. Plus if someone directly goes after us, as much as I hate to say it, she might be kind of a liability for those reasons.
On the other hand, I don't like the idea of being someone who sticks our friends in a box for their own protection. And as far as age goes, by that logic Powder was too young for the undercity too. (Which now that I type that out loud isn't really incorrect per say, but still.) At the very least, one quick jaunt in and out won't be the end of the world for her, probably. And while Empathy isn't a problem for her the way it is for most Pilties, it still wouldn't hurt for her to see where her parents came from, good and bad and everything in between.
And that was before the recent trauma. At this point I think it's safe to say there is no truly reasonable person working on Hextech; we just have to hope our own brand of neurosis will balance out Jayce and especially Viktor rather than feeding theirs. XD
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Really? It's one of the first things I think about. Was pretty relieved with the Hextech situation update. Have to worry about what those two will get up to while Jinx is not there. It's nice that Jinx will achieve greatness as an engineer with or without Hextech and doesn't need to be as manic about it.
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- Head in the clouds
I underestimated how deep under the basement the two are in being bad at it. They are bad at it I knew that - I just underestimated how bad the other two are at safety.
Jinx still is the one wearing the safety crown hands down. I'm not saying she'll be good at it - it's just that the other two are worse
Torgamous
Aspiring Gynoid
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Hovering surrounded by lights is the one thing that all of Piltover knows Hextech can definitely do. The whole city saw Powder, Jayce, and Viktor do it by accident.
And, more to the point, it doesn't matter. Jinx's job is to cover for Seraphine until Seraphine decides she doesn't need covering. If the playhouse sponsor is on their side then she'll say "oh, yes, the play, of course," and if she's not then you don't get bonus points for confessing before she calls the cops. Stick to the story long enough and we can reasonably expect Viktor to back Jinx up on purpose because he sees what's happening and Jayce to back her up by accident because when asked he starts theorizing about how to do it.
If anything I expect Jinx to wear the safety crown harder now, just for unhealthy reasons. She's lost enough to her tech blowing up as is, she won't let Victor and Jayce go the way of Mylo and Claggor if she can help it.
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[X][Seraphine] Deny Everything: What Magic? That Was Just My New Hextech Thing!
[X][Undercity] Invite Seraphine and Caitlyn
Even if Kiramman know it's magic it is better for her if we give her plausable deniability. Also it's not our secret to share, if Seraphine wants to tell her that's up to her.
The line between Hextech & magic is ill defined, if we give Seraphine a Hextech focus at some point and she casts through it then we can just sell it as selectively useable Hextech rather than magic.
[X][Undercity] Invite Seraphine and Caitlyn
Even if Kiramman know it's magic it is better for her if we give her plausable deniability. Also it's not our secret to share, if Seraphine wants to tell her that's up to her.
The line between Hextech & magic is ill defined, if we give Seraphine a Hextech focus at some point and she casts through it then we can just sell it as selectively useable Hextech rather than magic.
[X][Seraphine] Deny Everything: What Magic? That Was Just My New Hextech Thing!
[X][Undercity] Invite Seraphine and Caitlyn
Big fan of this quest so far, just binged it. I have mixed feelings about getting Ekko out from Zaun. On one hand it makes things significantly safer for him and Benzo, but it does mean that we remove a primary opposing force to Silco.
[X][Undercity] Invite Seraphine and Caitlyn
Big fan of this quest so far, just binged it. I have mixed feelings about getting Ekko out from Zaun. On one hand it makes things significantly safer for him and Benzo, but it does mean that we remove a primary opposing force to Silco.
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ColdGoldLazarus
Contrary Quester, Spreadsheet Queen, Pink Flamingo
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- Challenger Deep
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- She/Her
Yeah. I kinda wonder if Ekko's not gonna be fond of that plan, either, to be honest. Seeing him in-person's still gonna be good, but I suspect it'll wind up being a weird indirect parallel of Canon!Ekko's failed early efforts to get Jinx away from Silco.
But maybe helping him (and Benzo!) set up the Firelights could help smooth things over.
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That primary opposing force to Silco didn't exist initially in canon and needed to be collected over time as people realized he really wasn't all that good for for the people of Zaun compared to the industry that could make Zaun a nation. Odds are the same is true here, and letting Silco consolidate faster is letting him consolidate less securely. Haste makes waste afterall.
Of course, jinx may favor less of a quiet exit than a light show with a fuck you finishing touch.
Frame it as less leaving Zaun and more denying Silco someone to make an example of while lowering his guard or getting away with challenging his power by showing his reach is limited. Move back in when his guard drops.
On a separate note, Magic seems a little emotions based and that has me wondering if it's a bad Idea to bring Seraphine after all. Thoughts?
Is this blabbing or just telling her to keep it a secret? At this point it's obvious what's going on. Saying it's Hextech when you don't have a gem won't change anything but give the woman a chance to exercise willful ignorance.
If you think this option is blabbing then the argue the rules option is an even greater admission of guilt.
This was described as in her head designing not actually putting it together. The last chapter she was saying how she wasn't allowed Hextech or Chemtech and had to make something outside both tech trees.
She's probably going to be used to avoid danger and it increases bond but she's very much a non combatant. It's a gamble bringing her and hoping nothing will happen. Cait at least has combat training but she's naive.
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I sorta prefer giving her an out rather than asking her to keep a secret or trying to convince her that magic is okay.
If we give her an out, she has plausible deniability.
If we ask her to keep the secret, from her perspective we're asking one of Piltover's rulers to keep a secret about that impinges on its core laws. We're asking even more if we ask her to betray those laws.
Even if she knows what's going on, or strongly suspects. There's a meaningful difference there, in politics and in life.
If we give her an out, she has plausible deniability.
If we ask her to keep the secret, from her perspective we're asking one of Piltover's rulers to keep a secret about that impinges on its core laws. We're asking even more if we ask her to betray those laws.
Even if she knows what's going on, or strongly suspects. There's a meaningful difference there, in politics and in life.
I would agree but on a character level Jinx is thinking of this and this vote will likely shape Jinx's opinions going forward. If I'm right this may gauge how much Jinx trusts her. I don't think an 11 year old with basic education is going to be thinking in these terms.
Edit: Going for Ekko doesn't mean he'll actually come with us. He may just get help escaping but decide he's needed for the fight and stay.
[X][Seraphine] Ask Mrs. Kiramman to keep this secret.
Honestly don't know who to invite to the undercity. Cait is a lock in but Seraphine is a risk she can help in sens in sensing threats but she has no experience roughing it. It may help their friendship but it's not worth the risk?
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ColdGoldLazarus
Contrary Quester, Spreadsheet Queen, Pink Flamingo
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- Challenger Deep
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- She/Her
Pyrotechnics Show, maybe? That covers Seraphine and Lux, at least; an explosion of light and sound.
Yeah, I don't think she'll necessarily be considering this as giving Cassandra an out; just lying to her and being pleasantly surprised when it seems to work.
birdmaster01
Big Tech's Strongest Soldier
First of all : Peak™
Second,is Jinxbowl still vaild even after it's expiration date ?
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Dark Abstraction
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- United States
[X][Seraphine] Deny Everything: What Magic? That Was Just My New Hextech Thing!
[X][Undercity] Invite Caitlyn
This is very much a situation where blaming hextech is a viable option; Jinx has hextech equipment in her lab right now (she started the scene working on it), and levitation and lightshows are explicitly something that hextech can do. The first instance of Hextech as an officially recognized thing was a huge explosion that caused a cloud of sparkles while making things float.
It might not be what the Hextech Trio are working on officially for the Piltover Council, but in the city of inventors it's entirely reasonable to expect side-projects, and Jinx is a child that recently underwent extreme trauma; deciding to work on a whimsical fun project that lets a friend float in a cloud of sparkles sounds like the kind of thing a kid would do to take their mind off sad shit and feel better by having fun. This is one of the best situations to blame hextech as the excuse to cover up Seraphine having done magic.
And this isn't some small cultural taboo like being gay or something, Seraphine doing magic is illegal, her very existence as a mage is illegal in Piltover. And Cassandra is a principled leader of the city that believes that the laws have valid basis for existing, there hasn't been nearly enough time or hextech proliferation to ease the concept of magic as something that can be harnessed safely. Asking her to keep the secret because it would be merciful and convenient for Seraphine's family is asking her to corruptly break one of the laws that underpin her society here for the personal interests of individuals she knows. It is not remotely a small request to make of her.
[X][Undercity] Invite Caitlyn
This is very much a situation where blaming hextech is a viable option; Jinx has hextech equipment in her lab right now (she started the scene working on it), and levitation and lightshows are explicitly something that hextech can do. The first instance of Hextech as an officially recognized thing was a huge explosion that caused a cloud of sparkles while making things float.
It might not be what the Hextech Trio are working on officially for the Piltover Council, but in the city of inventors it's entirely reasonable to expect side-projects, and Jinx is a child that recently underwent extreme trauma; deciding to work on a whimsical fun project that lets a friend float in a cloud of sparkles sounds like the kind of thing a kid would do to take their mind off sad shit and feel better by having fun. This is one of the best situations to blame hextech as the excuse to cover up Seraphine having done magic.
And this isn't some small cultural taboo like being gay or something, Seraphine doing magic is illegal, her very existence as a mage is illegal in Piltover. And Cassandra is a principled leader of the city that believes that the laws have valid basis for existing, there hasn't been nearly enough time or hextech proliferation to ease the concept of magic as something that can be harnessed safely. Asking her to keep the secret because it would be merciful and convenient for Seraphine's family is asking her to corruptly break one of the laws that underpin her society here for the personal interests of individuals she knows. It is not remotely a small request to make of her.
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Torgamous
Aspiring Gynoid
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No, she'll be thinking in these terms:
Because Seraphine is doing an illegal thing and her education was very clear that you never admit that to anyone who cares about the law.
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- Florida
[X][Seraphine] Deny Everything: What Magic? That Was Just My New Hextech Thing!
[X][Undercity] Invite Seraphine and Caitlyn
[X][Undercity] Invite Seraphine and Caitlyn
Inverted Fallecy
Beware the Dialogue that Spews Forth!~
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- Somewhere behind a Screen.~
[X][Seraphine] Ask Mrs. Kiramman to keep this secret.
[X][Undercity] Invite Caitlyn
[X][Undercity] Invite Caitlyn
