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Get Jinxed: A Tale of Mental Instability and Poor Decisions (Arcane/League of Legends)

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[X] Jayce and Viktor

Both options are very intresting, but I think the Kirammans would cause some issues with Jinx's mental state due to a lot of reasons, Victor is at least ah Zaunite like we are, also it could help stabilize them.
 
[X] The Kirammans

I feel like Cait and her dad might be able to get Jinx to eventually open up and talk about her issues, plus Jinx could stop Cait from becoming a bluebelly

Katahiraga said:
Can we still let jinx develope nonlethal weapons at least even if idiots use them they won't accidentally kill themselves and other people in the best case scenario, and if it falls into the wrong hands they shouldn't be able to abuse it too much in the worse case.
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Jinx does have that zap gun in Canon, we might be able to modify that design into a non lethal taser.
 
Tough choice. On one hand, I feel Power/Jinx has less ingrained issues wrapped up in Jayce and Victor than the Kirammans and Hextech offers a good mutual ground. On the other, we've already seen that those two have trouble keeping themselves afloat and can get too caught up in their own stuff to notice/listen to Powder (also, if/when Powder ever puts together that the Hextech blast set this mess in motion, she's going to have strong feelings toward those two).

The Kirammans are probably the better option for Powder's general stability and ability to function outside her passions, but I feel like the Jayce and Victor option can open the doors to the most interesting character development.

[X] Jayce and Viktor
 
Dopplerdee said:
[X] Jayce and Viktor

Both options are very intresting, but I think the Kirammans would cause some issues with Jinx's mental state due to a lot of reasons, Victor is at least ah Zaunite like we are, also it could help stabilize them.
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I don't think Jinx is going to initially gain stability disproportionately with either choice. Neither do I think stability is locked behind one choice or the other. Similarly, Chengar probably has some issues waiting with either choice. But we can guess at least one of them in regards to Jayce and Victor.
Chengar Qordath said:
Jayce Issues Roll
2d6: (2+4) Hextech Obsession (-4), Heimerdinger (-2) Something to Prove (-2) = -2
Failure
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We've been favoring Jinx as the trio's voice of reason.
Chengar Qordath said:
Jayce cleared his throat. "Let me take the lead on this. I'll explain that it was my experiment, and my decision to keep pressing forward despite knowing the risks. Hopefully, they'll overlook the explosion once they realize what we've accomplished, but if they don't it's better if only one of us gets the hammer dropped on them."

"We don't want the accident to overshadow everything we accomplished tonight. We just proved our work isn't some mad pipe dream, to something real and substantive. That's what we want the Council to leave this meeting thinking about, not the accident."
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And I think the project still needs us to be that. If we go with Jayce and Victor we'll end up just as fixated on Hextech as they are, which will make it harder to pass rolls to reign them in or resist siding with them on bad ideas.

I think the kiramman's can be good support for when we are not working Hextech, and Jayce and Victor can remain Hextech partners Powder confides in, and returns the favor when their Hextech madness runs awry. It's a better dynamic for the pair than making them her primary guardians and having them influence her too strongly.
Frozen Flame said:
Tough tough. On one hand, I feel Power/Jinx has less ingrained issues wrapped up in Jayce and Victor than the Kirammans and Hextech offers a good mutual ground. On the other, we've already seen that those two have trouble keeping themselves afloat and can get too caught up in their own stuff to notice/listen to Powder (also, if/when Powder ever puts together that the Hextech blast set this mess in motion, she's going to have strong feelings toward those two).
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I think the counter balance to the more direct conflict with those issues is those issues getting addressed less by them and at the same time some of their own issues start to bleed into Jinx. As you've noted, they can get wrapped up in their research and potentially neglect Jinx, which would be a terrible trait for Jinx to gain as an indirect result of going along with their distraction because she's not stable.

Also, Victor and Jayce adopting Jinx makes them family, which puts them under the abandonment and trauma issues anyway. Having them remain workmates and partners instead of leaves them as an alternative support group Jinx can lean on when things get tough with the Kiramman's and she needs a break. It's a more balanced and effective approach to her care post tragedy than having her workmates become her family and only interact with the Kiramman family on rare occasions.

Plus, we have the option of preventing Caitlyn from becoming a cop. We have better odds of that if we are interacting regularly with both. Caitlyn kind of wanders out of regular interactions with Jayce in canon. Being a middle man keeping them connected so we can possibly work together on the Caitlyn issue and save her from going down a dark path is worthwhile.
 
Randino Treviani said:
I don't think Jinx is going to initially gain stability disproportionately with either choice. Neither do I think stability is locked behind one choice or the other. Similarly, Chengar probably has some issues waiting with either choice. But we can guess at least one of them in regards to Jayce and Victor.
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I mean yeah, there are gonna be positives and negatives with both.
 
Why did Powder make her Mousers so lethal, in the first place if the most potential enemies are bullies, and desperate competing Zaun children and at most enforcers, tha Powder inrellectually knows killing is a very bad idea, in the first place?
 
Katahiraga said:
Why did Powder make her Mousers so lethal, in the first place if the most potential enemies are bullies, and desperate competing Zaun children and at most enforcers, tha Powder inrellectually knows killing is a very bad idea, in the first place?
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The (somewhat) irrational fear of being hurt as a result of past trauma is one hell of a motivator to do something you shouldn't. See the entirety of Jinx's actions post Ep. 3.
 
Katahiraga said:
Why did Powder make her Mousers so lethal, in the first place if the most potential enemies are bullies, and desperate competing Zaun children and at most enforcers, tha Powder inrellectually knows killing is a very bad idea, in the first place?
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A part instability on powders end and there being threats more dangerous than just bullies and such in cutthroat gang ridden Zaun for a young woman approaching puberty, and a part these being first gen successful prototypes in need of adjustment. Given a month or two, Powder would have probably decided that the bomb was a bit much when a bit of shrapnel can achieve equally good results and scaled them down.
 
spiderhellian said:
Truly, vote for what you'd rather read. Tactical considerations are a crapshoot, don't you know we're dealing with a jinx?
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Jinx may not be predictable, but other characters are. Jayce and Victor aren't going to see anything wrong with Powder working on Hextech as an outlet for grief, even when it leads to an obsession. We can predict them being busy, can predict them getting caught up in their work and potentially staying late on a night powder really needs to not be alone. We can also predict that even if we don't choose to be adopted by them here we'll still associate with the regularly as a Hextech partner and friend.

In the end, this is a choice whether to put Jinx's recovery mostly on Jayce and Viktor's shoulders knowing Hextech is going to keep them from being as attentive as we'd like given the situation, while the Kiramman's is putting her in a situation of having two support groups, allowing her to seek comfort from one or the other should things become tense or painful with one or the other.
 
Randino Treviani said:
I think the counter balance to the more direct conflict with those issues is those issues getting addressed less by them and at the same time some of their own issues start to bleed into Jinx. As you've noted, they can get wrapped up in their research and potentially neglect Jinx, which would be a terrible trait for Jinx to gain as an indirect result of going along with their distraction because she's not stable.

Also, Victor and Jayce adopting Jinx makes them family, which puts them under the abandonment and trauma issues anyway. Having them remain workmates and partners instead of leaves them as an alternative support group Jinx can lean on when things get tough with the Kiramman's and she needs a break. It's a more balanced and effective approach to her care post tragedy than having her workmates become her family and only interact with the Kiramman family on rare occasions.

Plus, we have the option of preventing Caitlyn from becoming a cop. We have better odds of that if we are interacting regularly with both. Caitlyn kind of wanders out of regular interactions with Jayce in canon. Being a middle man keeping them connected so we can possibly work together on the Caitlyn issue and save her from going down a dark path is worthwhile.
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I do agree that the Kiramman option is more balanced, and arguably reliable, option that lets Jinx interact with both groups and foster a wider support network as well a routine less likely to foster hyperfixiation. Jayce and Victor is very much the mystery box option that can lead to great things, terrible things, or anything in between.

But I think that having to take responsibility for Powder is the best way for Jayce and Victor to undergo character development and move away from their more self-destructive traits in a way that they couldn't if she was just the lab partner/friend. They might actually have to make choices between their research and Jinx and, as we saw in Arcane, those two only really learn when the consequences of their actions are slapping them right in the face. Which they could bond with Jinx over, potentially helping her with one of her main issues in a way that other characters might not be able to since they can't relate to her experiences in a way she might accept.
 
Frozen Flame said:
But I think that having to take responsibility for Powder is the best way for Jayce and Victor to undergo character development and move away from their more self-destructive traits in a way that they couldn't if she was just the lab partner/friend. They might actually have to make choices between their research and Jinx and, as we saw in Arcane, those two only really learn when the consequences of their actions are slapping them right in the face. Which they could bond with Jinx over, potentially helping her with one of her main issues in a way that other characters might not be able to since they can't relate to her experiences in a way she might accept.
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Or it can spiral out of control do to a few failed rolls and the occasional bad choice, the instability and their own obsession with Hextech leading to seeing nothing wrong with a focus on work, in which powder stops being the one grounding them and instead they become one mad science family of self destructive ambitions instead.

It's a very fine line to walk with a rather large way to fall, because fewer people, all of them too similar to clash much, can lead to an echo chamber effect of bad decisions being made, like with the Hextech experiment that was taken too far because Victor and Jayce are of too similar a mind when it comes to hextech. We'll be better to guide them to healthier habits deliberately as their more grounded do to things besides Hextech in Jinx's life workmate than we will as their adoptive child.
 
[X] Jayce and Viktor

Really close decision in my mind, but what clinched it is how this decision impacts personal relationships.

Being adopted by the Kirammans effectively makes Caitlyn our sister, which screws up her potential relationship with Vi. While being adopted by Jayce and Viktor might force the two of them to consider their relationship more closely rather than being fully distracted by Hextech. Its Viktor and Jayce, not Jayce or Viktor.
 
Ziv said:
Being adopted by the Kirammans effectively makes Caitlyn our sister, which screws up her potential relationship with Vi. While being adopted by Jayce and Viktor might force the two of them to consider their relationship more closely rather than being fully distracted by Hextech. Its Viktor and Jayce, not Jayce or Viktor.
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I have to point out that Caitlyn becoming an enforcer, something we can work against better and more often being adopted into the Kiramman's, is much more likely to be a deal breaker to a Vi who had Vander shot to death by enforcers after an altercation with them lead to her brothers deaths, than any sort of legal recognition of Caitlyn as Jinx's sister in a Piltover court of law. I feel like your splitting hairs here over a trivial legality when there are much bigger obstacles we can actively prevent that are likely to matter more at the end of the day.

As someone who's own aunt actually tried the have a baby to make a relationship work trick, as well as knowing a few other couples, I'm sorry to inform you that the additional stress of and responsibility don't necessarily bring people together. It's already going to be difficult for Jayce and Viktor to clamp down on their Hextech ambitions and be their as is. Odds are far more in favor of the sacrifices they make to look after Jinx keep them from spending time together and see them lost to their Hextech passion over any romantic passion do to having less time to work on it.
 
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