[x] [Royce] Decline, Write to Jeyne and suggest having Eldric sent to the Citadel or some other means of removing him from succession when he comes of age.
[X] [Feast] Talk to
-[X] Alicent Hightower
-[X] Isembard Arryn
 
I will say, if you guys want to talk with Steffon now that's fine but I feel like some of you think you need to talk to him right away and like, you guys have an entire trip to interact with him. This is the third stop of sixteen total.
I just feel like it'd be nice to get a baseline for the dude here and then we can just keep an eye out the rest of the trip for him doing anything that stands out.

As for Isembard, the Gulltown Arryns are rich, and that's potentially useful, but that feels like it'd get use from a full meeting action like the one we passed up, not just, mingling at a party.
 
I'm just more interested in what jeyne will think on the opinion of one of Rhaenyra future children having an actual chance at becoming heir of the vale.
If you're inclined to think cynically (and assume she doesn't know about what Lyseni priestesses get up to), Jeyne has taken several steps towards discouraging Rhaenyra from having children.
 
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Did she? I mean Rhearyra as heir of the iron throne is obligated to have children in the future, in order to strengthen her claim.
 
[X] [Royce] Decline, Write to Jeyne and suggest having Eldric sent to the Citadel or some other means of removing him from succession when he comes of age.
[X] [Feast] Talk to
-[X] Isembard Arryn
 
Honestly, the child will grow up to be an asshole, and considering that Jeyne and Rhaenyra are directly responsible of the death of his father I would rather not risk it...
[X] [Royce] Decline, Write to Jeyne and suggest having Eldric sent to the Citadel or some other means of removing him from succession when he comes of age.
[X] [Feast] Talk to
-[X] Alicent Hightower
-[X] Isembard Arryn
 
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[X] [Royce] Write-in (Subject to QM Approval) Agree to write Jeyne, but only to ask what she plans to do with Eldric. In the letter to Jeyne, mention that Eldric is her closest present relation and that you are not worried about him inheriting, provided he is raised right, but that you would be equally unopposed to him being raised to be sent to the Citadel, as long as the matter is sorted.
[X] [Feast] Talk to
-[X] Alicent Hightower
-[X] Isembard Arryn
 
[X] [Feast] Talk to
-[X] Alicent Hightower
-[X] Isembard Arryn


[X] [Royce] Write-in (Subject to QM Approval) Agree to write Jeyne, but only to ask what she plans to do with Eldric. In the letter to Jeyne, mention that Eldric is her closest present relation and that you are not worried about him inheriting, provided he is raised right, but that you would be equally unopposed to him being raised to be sent to the Citadel, as long as the matter is sorted.

Edit: I suppose this is the last chance we have to talk to Isembard while we have the rest of the journay to talk to Steffon Redfort. As long as we don't forget him.
 
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[X] [Royce] Write-in (Subject to QM Approval) Agree to write Jeyne, but only to ask what she plans to do with Eldric. In the letter to Jeyne, mention that Eldric is her closest present relation and that you are not worried about him inheriting, provided he is raised right, but that you would be equally unopposed to him being raised to be sent to the Citadel, as long as the matter is sorted.

[X] [Feast] Talk to
-[X] Alicent Hightower
-[X] Isembard Arryn
 
[X] [Royce] Write-in (Subject to QM Approval) Agree to write Jeyne, but only to ask what she plans to do with Eldric. In the letter to Jeyne, mention that Eldric is her closest present relation and that you are not worried about him inheriting, provided he is raised right, but that you would be equally unopposed to him being raised to be sent to the Citadel, as long as the matter is sorted.

[X] [Feast] Talk to
-[X] Steffon Redfort
-[X] Isembard Arryn
 
It's utterly bizarre to watch how people were dead set on having to "deal with the Edric situation" and now opting to be so non-committed that they are doing nothing.

It's a bit of a weird situation since it went poorly in canon, so it feels like it needs attention. But anything reasonable would have been pretty fine and it's not clear why Jeyne didn't handle it. If it was because Arnold was never tried or the situation was fraught enough that she'd have been risking another civil war in doing so, then maybe we've already changed that. But it's not clear that's why she didn't handle it. Another possibility is that the oaths to not inherit (Wall, Citadel, Sept) are I think all voluntary? You can force someone at swordpoint to swear the oaths, but if they're unwilling you do have to be willing to kill them.

I do like some aspects of Eldric as heir - he's the legal heir, so there's no question as to inheritance. He's young enough that Jeyne could basically raise him herself. He's not even going to remember his dad, and his father's sins aren't his. However, discussion in the last post about what to do here convinced me it was more mixed - there is a bigger risk of him (or people on his behalf) trying to jump the line of succession, even if he doesn't remember his dad he's still likely to hold a grudge that we took knowing his dad from him. And our future vassal picking their own successor is good precedent for us, them feeling like they're unable to is bad precedent. I still think him being the heir is pretty sensible, but I don't think it's worth alienating Jeyne by messing in her succession if she doesn't feel that way. So long as she doesn't just ignore the issue.

I think Royce (Rhea or her dad) getting him is ridiculous though. They raised the last one to rebel, and the same incentives would exist for Rhea.
 
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[X] [Royce] Decline to get involved. This is Jeyne's business, not yours.
[X] [Feast] Listen to the Knights
[X] [Feast] Talk to
-[X] Isembard Arryn
 
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[X] [Royce] Agree to Write to Lady Jeyne Arryn
-[X] Suggest having Rhea Royce foster Eldric
[X] [Feast] Talk with the Former Arnold Supporters.
[X] [Feast] Talk to
-[X] Isembard Arryn
 
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Dear Father,



Today I find myself caught in a whirlwind of emotions, a sea of uncertainties that overwhelms me at this point in my life. The decision I have made, although necessary, weighs on my heart like a stone slab. I have acted in the name of justice, of the duty that belongs to me as an heiress, but I cannot help but feel that this burden is taking me away from what I once considered a noble purpose.



Eldric Arryn's fate has become a mind-consuming dilemma. This boy, who does not yet understand the complexities of the world around him, has become a pawn in a power game he never chose. His father, Arnold, has been a man of transgressions; their actions have left deep scars in the Valley and called into question the legitimacy of my own position. In his arrogance, Arnold dared to challenge not only his mistress, but also the very essence of our existence, the idea that a woman can rule with wisdom and justice.



The irony is cruel: while Eldric is innocent of his father's sins, I am forced to make a decision that condemns him to be a symbol of the mistakes of a previous generation. Is this the legacy I want to leave? Is this the justice that you and my mother expected me to stand for? The image of Eldric, a little boy with hopeful eyes, haunts me. In his eyes, I see a future that might be bright, but is destined to be darkened by his father's actions.



With each passing day, I wonder if my actions are really fair. Am I not perpetuating the cycle of pain that Arnold started? Am I not condemning a child to live under the shadow of his father, a man whose ambition led him to ruin? My heart is torn between my duty to the Valley and my compassion for Eldric. In my sleepless nights, I find myself pondering the implications of my decision. The burden of the crown is heavy, but the burden of consciousness is even more overwhelming.



I have made the decision to suggest that Eldric be removed from the line of succession, but this conclusion has not been easy to reach. Deep down, I long for peace and justice, but this path seems to be paved with cruel and painful decisions. If these are the kinds of decisions expected of me, I wonder if I am up to the responsibility that comes with governing.



I remember your words, Father, about the need to be firm, to make decisions that can sometimes seem cruel. But is cruelty really necessary? Couldn't there be another way to address this conflict? I am trapped in a labyrinth of morality, where every choice seems to take me farther away from the light and closer to the darkness.



The truth is that I feel that the weight of the crown has changed me, it has made me harder and less compassionate. I have seen how power can corrupt even the purest intentions, and I fear that, in the end, I will be no different from those who came before me. The image of my mother, Aemma, trying to balance her role as queen and mother, haunts me. The history of our families is full of men who have made decisions in the name of "justice," but have often forgotten the humanity behind those decisions.



I have considered the possibility that, by stripping Eldric of his right, he might be securing peace in the Valley. But at what cost? History has shown that the sacrifices of the innocent never lead to true order. Blood spilled in the name of power only breeds more conflict and resentment. Looking at Eldric, I can't help but feel like I'm condemning a child for his father's sins. In my heart, I rebel against this idea, but political logic seems to dictate that this is the only option.



The irony of this situation is not lost on me. I have fought against Arnold's transgressions, and now I find myself in a position where I must decide the fate of his son. Is this what it means to be a queen? Is this the legacy I want to leave for future generations? I'm overwhelmed with a sense of responsibility, and in the midst of all this, I'm also gripped by despair.



I have observed the reaction of those around me, the nobles of the Valley, who expect me to make a decision that will benefit them and ultimately maintain order. But what about the order that is based on injustice? What about the order that ignores a child's suffering? In my heart, I feel like I'm caught in a web of expectations that slowly suffocates me.



Father, I am writing this letter to you not only to explain my decision, but also to look to you for guidance. I've seen you make difficult decisions in the past, and I've often wondered if you've ever doubted the fairness of your actions. Have you ever felt that the weight of the crown has made you forget what it is to be human? I want to learn from you, but I also want to find my own path, one that is not marked by desolation and hopelessness.



The reality is that life is full of difficult choices, and there is not always a clear answer. I feel lost in this labyrinth of ambitions and responsibilities, and in my search for justice, I wonder if I am doomed to repeat the mistakes of those who came before me. The history of the Valley is a history of struggles and sacrifices, and I fear that, in the end, I too will become a tragic figure, caught in the web of ambition and power.



Right now, as I write these words, I feel like a bystander in my own life, observing how the choices I make affect not only my future, but also the future of others. The responsibility of governing is a weight I'm not sure I can bear, and the thought that Eldric could become a pawn in this game fills me with deep sadness.



Life is a cycle of decisions, and while I know that sometimes difficult decisions need to be made, I can't help but wonder if this is the only way forward. History is full of heroes and villains, of those who have made sacrifices in the name of order, but also of those who have been condemned for their actions.



Father, I write to you in the hope that you will be able to illuminate my path, that you will be able to offer me some perspective that will help me reconcile duty with compassion. If this is the legacy you have left me, I want to find a way to do it on my own terms, to ensure that my reign is not marked by injustice or the suffering of the innocent.



Life is full of nuances, and I feel like I'm stuck in a black-and-white world, where decisions are difficult and consequences are severe. At this moment, I wonder if there is any hope that future generations can learn from our mistakes, that they can find a path that is not marked by ambition and pain.



Please, Father, when you receive this letter, reflect on my words. I hope you can offer me the clarity I seek, the understanding I need to meet this challenge. Life is a complicated journey, and while I am willing to take on my responsibilities, I will do so in the hope that the future can be brighter and fairer for everyone.



With love and respect,



Rhaenyra

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[X] [Royce] Decline, Write to Jeyne and suggest having Eldric sent to the Citadel or some other means of removing him from succession when he comes of age.
[X] [Feast] Talk to Alicent Hightower
[X] [Feast] Talk to Isembard Arryn
 
[X] [Royce] Write-in (Subject to QM Approval) Agree to write Jeyne, but only to ask what she plans to do with Eldric. In the letter to Jeyne, mention that Eldric is her closest present relation and that you are not worried about him inheriting, provided he is raised right, but that you would be equally unopposed to him being raised to be sent to the Citadel, as long as the matter is sorted.
 
[X] [Royce] Write-in (Subject to QM Approval) Agree to write Jeyne, but only to ask what she plans to do with Eldric. In the letter to Jeyne, mention that Eldric is her closest present relation and that you are not worried about him inheriting, provided he is raised right, but that you would be equally unopposed to him being raised to be sent to the Citadel, as long as the matter is sorted.
 
[X] [Feast] Talk to
-[X] Alicent Hightower
-[X] Isembard Arryn

[X] [Royce] Write-in (Subject to QM Approval) Agree to write Jeyne, but only to ask what she plans to do with Eldric. In the letter to Jeyne, mention that Eldric is her closest present relation and that you are not worried about him inheriting, provided he is raised right, but that you would be equally unopposed to him being raised to be sent to the Citadel, as long as the matter is sorted.

i don't want it to seem like Rhaenyra is the type of Queen that's heavy handed about influencing a vassal's succession, but i also don't want Jeyne to leave (another) succession crisis around as a potential problem for later.

it doesn't even have to be her kid! if she genuinely doesn't ever want to, she is in a place to do that. she just needs to make it official and plan Edric's education accordingly. she can also push that onto a loyal bannerman (although i'm not sure who's left). i think that would be considered a mark of favor? or something
 
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Dear Father,



Today I find myself caught in a whirlwind of emotions, a sea of uncertainties that overwhelms me at this point in my life. The decision I have made, although necessary, weighs on my heart like a stone slab. I have acted in the name of justice, of the duty that belongs to me as an heiress, but I cannot help but feel that this burden is taking me away from what I once considered a noble purpose.



Eldric Arryn's fate has become a mind-consuming dilemma. This boy, who does not yet understand the complexities of the world around him, has become a pawn in a power game he never chose. His father, Arnold, has been a man of transgressions; their actions have left deep scars in the Valley and called into question the legitimacy of my own position. In his arrogance, Arnold dared to challenge not only his mistress, but also the very essence of our existence, the idea that a woman can rule with wisdom and justice.



The irony is cruel: while Eldric is innocent of his father's sins, I am forced to make a decision that condemns him to be a symbol of the mistakes of a previous generation. Is this the legacy I want to leave? Is this the justice that you and my mother expected me to stand for? The image of Eldric, a little boy with hopeful eyes, haunts me. In his eyes, I see a future that might be bright, but is destined to be darkened by his father's actions.



With each passing day, I wonder if my actions are really fair. Am I not perpetuating the cycle of pain that Arnold started? Am I not condemning a child to live under the shadow of his father, a man whose ambition led him to ruin? My heart is torn between my duty to the Valley and my compassion for Eldric. In my sleepless nights, I find myself pondering the implications of my decision. The burden of the crown is heavy, but the burden of consciousness is even more overwhelming.



I have made the decision to suggest that Eldric be removed from the line of succession, but this conclusion has not been easy to reach. Deep down, I long for peace and justice, but this path seems to be paved with cruel and painful decisions. If these are the kinds of decisions expected of me, I wonder if I am up to the responsibility that comes with governing.



I remember your words, Father, about the need to be firm, to make decisions that can sometimes seem cruel. But is cruelty really necessary? Couldn't there be another way to address this conflict? I am trapped in a labyrinth of morality, where every choice seems to take me farther away from the light and closer to the darkness.



The truth is that I feel that the weight of the crown has changed me, it has made me harder and less compassionate. I have seen how power can corrupt even the purest intentions, and I fear that, in the end, I will be no different from those who came before me. The image of my mother, Aemma, trying to balance her role as queen and mother, haunts me. The history of our families is full of men who have made decisions in the name of "justice," but have often forgotten the humanity behind those decisions.



I have considered the possibility that, by stripping Eldric of his right, he might be securing peace in the Valley. But at what cost? History has shown that the sacrifices of the innocent never lead to true order. Blood spilled in the name of power only breeds more conflict and resentment. Looking at Eldric, I can't help but feel like I'm condemning a child for his father's sins. In my heart, I rebel against this idea, but political logic seems to dictate that this is the only option.



The irony of this situation is not lost on me. I have fought against Arnold's transgressions, and now I find myself in a position where I must decide the fate of his son. Is this what it means to be a queen? Is this the legacy I want to leave for future generations? I'm overwhelmed with a sense of responsibility, and in the midst of all this, I'm also gripped by despair.



I have observed the reaction of those around me, the nobles of the Valley, who expect me to make a decision that will benefit them and ultimately maintain order. But what about the order that is based on injustice? What about the order that ignores a child's suffering? In my heart, I feel like I'm caught in a web of expectations that slowly suffocates me.



Father, I am writing this letter to you not only to explain my decision, but also to look to you for guidance. I've seen you make difficult decisions in the past, and I've often wondered if you've ever doubted the fairness of your actions. Have you ever felt that the weight of the crown has made you forget what it is to be human? I want to learn from you, but I also want to find my own path, one that is not marked by desolation and hopelessness.



The reality is that life is full of difficult choices, and there is not always a clear answer. I feel lost in this labyrinth of ambitions and responsibilities, and in my search for justice, I wonder if I am doomed to repeat the mistakes of those who came before me. The history of the Valley is a history of struggles and sacrifices, and I fear that, in the end, I too will become a tragic figure, caught in the web of ambition and power.



Right now, as I write these words, I feel like a bystander in my own life, observing how the choices I make affect not only my future, but also the future of others. The responsibility of governing is a weight I'm not sure I can bear, and the thought that Eldric could become a pawn in this game fills me with deep sadness.



Life is a cycle of decisions, and while I know that sometimes difficult decisions need to be made, I can't help but wonder if this is the only way forward. History is full of heroes and villains, of those who have made sacrifices in the name of order, but also of those who have been condemned for their actions.



Father, I write to you in the hope that you will be able to illuminate my path, that you will be able to offer me some perspective that will help me reconcile duty with compassion. If this is the legacy you have left me, I want to find a way to do it on my own terms, to ensure that my reign is not marked by injustice or the suffering of the innocent.



Life is full of nuances, and I feel like I'm stuck in a black-and-white world, where decisions are difficult and consequences are severe. At this moment, I wonder if there is any hope that future generations can learn from our mistakes, that they can find a path that is not marked by ambition and pain.



Please, Father, when you receive this letter, reflect on my words. I hope you can offer me the clarity I seek, the understanding I need to meet this challenge. Life is a complicated journey, and while I am willing to take on my responsibilities, I will do so in the hope that the future can be brighter and fairer for everyone.



With love and respect,



Rhaenyra

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Thank you very much for making this. I may or may not make this canon I'm still undecided but I really appericate you writing this.
 
[X] [Feast] Talk to
-[X] Alicent Hightower
-[X] Isembard Arryn

[X] [Royce] Write-in (Subject to QM Approval) Agree to write Jeyne, but only to ask what she plans to do with Eldric. In the letter to Jeyne, mention that Eldric is her closest present relation and that you are not worried about him inheriting, provided he is raised right, but that you would be equally unopposed to him being raised to be sent to the Citadel, as long as the matter is sorted.
 
[X] [Royce] Write-in (Subject to QM Approval) Agree to write Jeyne, but only to ask what she plans to do with Eldric. In the letter to Jeyne, mention that Eldric is her closest present relation and that you are not worried about him inheriting, provided he is raised right, but that you would be equally unopposed to him being raised to be sent to the Citadel, as long as the matter is sorted.

I don't know why but I was expecting one of the suggestions to be that *we* foster Eldric. Not that I think that that would be a good idea, necessarily.
Since none of the options are that big of a swing, I think it would be silly for Rhaenyra to suggest anything that out of pocket and so I am pretty indifferent to what is done other than just something is.
I would prefer that that "something" is not condemning someone innocent of any crime, other than who there father is, to the wall.

[X] [Feast] Talk to
-[X] Alicent Hightower
-[X] Isembard Arryn
-[X] One of the Serving Girls
(approval cuz it's funny)
 
[X] [Royce] Write-in (Subject to QM Approval) Agree to write Jeyne, but only to ask what she plans to do with Eldric. In the letter to Jeyne, mention that Eldric is her closest present relation and that you are not worried about him inheriting, provided he is raised right, but that you would be equally unopposed to him being raised to be sent to the Citadel, as long as the matter is sorted.

[X] [Feast] Talk to
-[X] Alicent Hightower
-[X] Isembard Arryn
 
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