Noted.

Granted, in the context of the galaxy's status and timeline, any civilization that started traveling between the stars during that era I specified and is still active might as well be a contemporary. They're going to have a mastery of the Secrets that far outstrips everything else besides the Shiplords.
Whilst true, it's unlikely that the Shiplords would consider such races contemporaries, as it's not just about technology. After the Consolat died they went on a major teacher kick, after all. Which worked...until it didn't.

But the fact is that the Shiplords do consider the Neras just that.
 
And caught up.

*waves*

Honestly the weird thing about the Neras is quite simple: How the blip do they have inbuilt, seemingly naturally existing, first secret drives! ...Because the first secret didn't even exist when they evolved. When they started to move among the stars. And I would think it was a direct gift of the Consulat, but they died in the process of forging the secrets. So... How?
 
Since they predate the Secrets, the answer is presumably some really extreme mastery of the Second Secret to modify their own basic biology.

Themselves and the Shiplords being the only species around that know they didn't originally have that feature.
 
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Since they predate the Secrets, the answer is presumably some really extreme mastery of the Second Secret to modify their own basic biology.

Themselves and the Shiplords being the only species around that know they didn't originally have that feature.

I've started wondering if they maybe figured something else out, since the implication seems to be everything else (like AI) that's accomplished with secrets is something the Consolot figured out how to do themselves.

Hmm, actually I wonder if that's all the secrets are - a way to prove you can handle a certain type of knowledge, and then shortcuts to get it working (with the caveat that the proof aspect is clearly unpatched). I wonder if there is (or was intended to be) an aspect to each secret about teaching how to do it without the crutch the secret represents, that know one has figured out because most people seem to be more Shiplord than Consolot before they die or ascend
 
Update's done. Flowed really well, but I need to make sure that it didn't flow somewhere that might trap me, so need to wait for my betas. Post to be later on tonight or tomorrow, all going well.

I'll toss up the interludes vote alongside it, if I remember.

And caught up.

*waves*
Hey! Been watching you munch your way through, happy to see you make it.

As for your questions? Well, they're very good ones. And with that, my mysterious QM quota is met for the month.
 
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Origin 4 - Secret Flows
It had taken meeting other members of the galactic community, such as it existed, for humanity to truly realise how gifted your race was where the Secrets were concerned. To wield the Fifth and Sixth before even the first Tribute Cycle returned hadn't been without precedent, but it had still been a shock. Unravelling the truth of the Third Secret in so few years had been another, though the reaction to that was probably only just beginning to propagate across your allies.

You'd not thought much of it at the time, given the help of the Luminary in providing a functional Emitter to support Arcadia's research efforts. Now, though, you wondered why. The Fifth and Sixth's discovery had been built upon decades of steady process in their relevant fields, spurred on by the examples of Practice. But the Third…there'd been no great investment of time, nor effort, into that field. Not since long abandoned experiments of the mid-21st century.

There'd been the example of an Emitter, true, but part of the process of discovering the Third Secret had been taking that knowledge and going all the way back to first principles. A process that, from the records later transferred by your now-allies, should have taken most of a century, at minimum. Against that record, Mary had led Arcadia's teams to success in less than ten years. And there, in her, was the singular point of unity in each situation.

And that made you wonder. Your oldest friend had long since grown into the title Daughter of Secrets, the epithet now hers by right. But it had come from her parentage. Her mother and father unlocked the First Secret together, offering humanity the stars and dooming your people to the Week of Sorrows in the same moment. Mary had inherited the fullness of both their genius, but the title remained. And in a world of Practice, where every human could subtly influence the fabric of reality, could that mean something?

Could the very title that had hounded her in her early years have helped create or shape the ascendant genius whose work had more to do with humanity's continued existence than almost anything in post-Sorrows history? It was possible, at least theoretically, but proving its existence was proving challenging. And that was only half the question. Assuming you were right, there'd been a shift since arriving here at the Consolat Origin, from the undeniably swift to something so obvious that it just couldn't be ignored.

"Look," you sighed, rapping your knuckles on the table. The blow rang louder than you'd intended, but it cut the steady hum of competing voices entirely.

You'd commandeered the Magi's conference room for this meeting, despite it being a little big for the affair, and the colourful sprawl that the chamber looked down on was just as beautiful as it'd been a few weeks ago. It was just that none of the four of you present had focus to spare for it right now. Diagrams and formulae were scattered across the air between you, interlinking in some places, fiercely separate in others. And not one of them had given you the answer you were looking for, even after hours of work.

"We can circle this issue as many times as we want to," you went on, cutting through the temporary silence your action had won. "But the fact remains that actually testing what we think is going on here is going to require significant preparation to be safe. We worked that out yesterday."

"I, for one, can already hear the objections to doing any sort of deliberate, complex Practice within this star system, let alone this planet," Mir said. There was a faint strain on his sharp features, a tightness around the eyes that you'd done your best to soothe on the journey to this planet. Faded from that height for now, thankfully, but still potent. "I don't need my Focus to know the sort of argument that's going to cause. And you all know I'm right."

"None of us are gainsaying that," Vega replied, laying a gentle hand on your comrade's shoulder. For all their similar age, the pale-haired Harmonial seemed far older in the moment. "And the possibility of going outsystem for this is worthy of consideration. The problem-"

"Is that we don't know how much time we really have, I know," Mir sighed. From almost anyone else, the words would have been snapped, maybe even harsh. THe worst you got from him was simple resignation to the difficulties of the task at hand. "Four days each way to the Stellar Exclusion Zone, and then whatever time we need to do this."

"Which just brings us back to the question of what you want to do," Mary pointed out, the words more than a little challenging. "I can follow most of what's been suggested here, but…I'm me." Those words had a different feeling to them today, and you weren't sure how much your friend liked that. Something you filed away for now, though, in recognition of the broader issue.

"Oh. Oh goodness," you breathed, shaking your head. "You're right." The 'of course' went without saying, this time.

Mary smiled faintly, her green eyes flickering with gentle amusement. She'd heard the words left unspoken. "So what are you three wanting to do to confirm this hypothesis, Mandy?" She asked. "I assume it will need me, as well."

"That's correct." It took several moments for you to properly arrange your own thoughts, something that only sharpened Mary's point. "Though please understand that I'm…heavily simplifying here."

Your friend's quick nod was all you needed to continue.

"One of the clearest points we can agree on here is that, whatever is going on here, it's incredibly subtle. Enough that if you are the heart of it, Mary, none of us ever noticed. Not during the Metaconcert event, or any time after. Our understanding of the web of Practice between humanity is still quite limited, but something that we've always wondered is how much it's doing without conscious notice."

"So we needed a way to effectively screen out any interference, and make the experimental space as calm as possible." You snapped the fingers of one hand to point at the singular man in the room. "Which is where Mir's Focus becomes critical."

"It's possible that Vega could smooth things out with her Focus," Mir added, shifting a little stiffly under your attention. "But if we're trying to examine this web, Amanda could use the help. And I certainly can't support her there."

"Why not bring Elil in on this, then?" Mary asked. The lines around her eyes crinkled in focus, and a touch of confusion. "He's not busy this cycle, is he?"

"He's not, no," you replied. "But we've been trying to keep Insight Focused away from study of the Practice-links between humanity ever since we realised they were there. Overload avoidance."

Mary winced. "Ah." She didn't need any more explanation than that. Trying to apply the abilities of Insight-Focused to the Secrets had never once ended well for humanity. Practice hadn't been seen as the same, and recent discoveries had shown how true that was, but close enough that no one had wanted to risk it.

The man's Focus could be impossibly valuable in the coming days, and you wouldn't risk him on this. Not when you already had a good idea of what to do. If it didn't work, then maybe you'd have to ask your friend to try something dangerous. You hoped it wouldn't come to that.

Brushing those thoughts aside for now, you went on. "Once Mir calms the space around us, and around you, Mary, Vega and myself will link our senses." Something that was only possible thanks to the seemingly inviolate Harmonic link that bound your Heartcircle together. "The aim is for a half-trance, bringing our mental impressions close enough to the web to properly examine it, but without the risk of any larger energy discharge.

"After that?" You grimaced. "We want to try and examine your presence within humanity's web, kinda like an input/output test. See where it connects, how it does so, and the way in which your soul integrates any energies. It's a poor explanation, as it's so much more than that, but it's all I've got."

Your dark-haired friend's expression softened, her green eyes gentle. "I'm going to guess that any of our scanners won't be detailed enough for this."

You shook your head. "I really doubt it. I've seen their output. It's nothing compared to what I've seen myself, and if you really are some sort of…invisible nexus, I guess? We need that level of analysis. That said, point every single sensor you've got at this anyway. We could be wrong."

"And it could also catch anything the two of you miss," Mary nodded, before glancing at Vega. "Has Mandy gotten it about right?" She asked, grinning. The expression transformed her, brilliant humour stripping away all the tension and fatigue, at least for a moment. Meanwhile you sputtered, your indignant reply mauled to death by laughter.

"Essentially," Vega said smoothly, her own lips quivering. "She missed our risk estimate, but you'd know how she is with those."

"Everyone's a critic." You rolled your eyes, flicking a hand at the air between you to clear the projections. Two different outlines replaced them. "But it leads to the decision we need to make."

"Put simply, there are two options," you explained. "We can prepare the ground here as best we can, something that will take several days at least." In the air, the outlines formed into an image of stars, and an image of the world you were standing on. "Or we can do this on the Adamant, outsystem. Which will take eight days, minimum."

"And the relative risk?" Mary asked.

"There's a valid concern that the nature of this star system might interface with what we want to do in an unexpected fashion." Vega said, leaning forward to rest her elbows on the table. "The problem is that it's impossible to say how that could happen, if it even does. I'm confident that I can handle that sort of harmonisation, but it's something we need to think about."

"And if something…louder happens," you added, humour fleeing from your face. "The Midnight Dreaming has a truly excellent sensor package. The Shiplords will detect any large-scale energy burst that we can't contain."

"Then why are we even considering doing this here?" Mary asked. Or at least began to, the words cutting off in a sound of frustrated realisation. "...it's because of how much faster things have become, now that we're here. Isn't it? You think that if we examine me here, where the effects of what might or might not exist around or within me are so much stronger, it'll be easier to find."

"Yes." There was no point in you denying it. The time pressure had only been part of the issue, and it had come up as a result of this one. "Whatever has allowed our people to do what they've done, it's strengthened here. Now, it's possible that we're entirely wrong about your part in things. But even then, you were still at the head of every discovery of a Secret since the Sorrows. If anyone has been touched by this in a way we can find, it's you."

"And outsystem?"

"Safer, at least in terms of detection if anything goes wrong," you said. Mary twirled two fingers sharply, a hurry-up gesture if you'd ever seen one. "But we're concerned that it'll be harder to pinpoint anything out there."

"Ultimately we feel this should be your choice, Mary," Vega added softly. "It's your soul we're going to be examining here. Where we do it, that should be up to you."

"Even if it risks you missing something?" your friend asked, glancing between the three of you.

"Doing it here could risk far more, if we can't control any rogue outbursts," Mir reminded her. "I don't think that'll happen, but that's no guarantee."

Mary blew out a breath, strands of dark hair dancing for a moment as she shook it. "You really know how to give me a hard one, Mandy." There wasn't any accusation in her voice, thankfully. But you winced, all the same.

"I know," you sighed. "I'm sorry."

"It's okay," she told you a moment later. Pushing herself back from the table, she came to her feet in a single, smooth motion. "You've made plenty of hard decisions. I can handle this one. Though, if you'd be okay helping me a little?"

"Of course," you nodded, already halfway to your feet. She shot you a grateful smile.

"Thanks."

You are presented with two options to investigate what you believe to be going on here. Both will involve Practice, as the mundane tools of humanity are still lacking in this field. Other options might exist, and you're free to suggest them, but these are the ones that are there right now.
[] The risk is worth it. Prepare a space on the Consolat Origin itself to the best of your shared ability, and attempt to unravel the truth here. Just hope you don't get anything wrong, because if you do, there'll be no going back.
[] Too much is still at stake. Go outsystem aboard the
Adamant for this investigation. It'll be safer, but it'll also take you away from the source of your accelerated workflow. And cost days of precious time away from the Consolat homeworld. (Will noticeably extend the length of the turn)
[] Write-in?
 
Well, you're getting it a bit later in the day than planned, but I'm pretty sure it's still the 30th somewhere. Thanks to @Coda for checking this for me, any remaining errors are all my fault. Wrote most of this today and it just...flowed, in a way that I haven't felt for ages. Doubt I'll be able to hold onto that, but we'll see.

I hope you enjoy it, and wish you all happy voting.

And now I sleep - oh god why did I stay up this late.
 
[X] The risk is worth it. Prepare a space on the Consolat Origin itself to the best of your shared ability, and attempt to unravel the truth here. Just hope you don't get anything wrong, because if you do, there'll be no going back.

Are we really willing to back down now, after we have come so far? Learned so much? Yes the risks are great, but when haven't they been in the course of history since the Sorrows? Given just how effective the team we have here is, and how much the discussion of Mary's potential importance to their search stuck a spark in my mind, I believe we have no choice but to commit here.

Especially with the fact that I'm getting shades of the Consolat in their description of Mary. I can't help thinking that there is even more of a Connection here, and that Amanda and the others will find something profound when they search Mary's soul.

Also I'm wondering if the search being done here, on the Consolat homework might cause a sympathetic reaction with any traces of the Consolat that might remain. It is worth the risk to take the leap. I just hope it will work out.
 
Honestly what makes me interested is if we get caught how the consolat AI would react; if it is intact at all it's likely to become very interested in us. And this system is very clearly still theirs, even after all that time. If it wants us alive to figure out wtf then the shiplords get to pound sand.

We shouldn't exactly bank on this, though.

But chances are whatever happened here turned the entire system into some kind of nexus of souls or whatever a weak point between where the power of potentials comes from and the physical universe is called, which is letting Mary tap into the well of potential more than should normally be possible. It's also possible whatever the hell the echo of the consolat left noticed someone that has a fucking chance and is naturally assisting in a manner none of the previous ones who attempted it were able to benefit from.

[X] The risk is worth it. Prepare a space on the Consolat Origin itself to the best of your shared ability, and attempt to unravel the truth here. Just hope you don't get anything wrong, because if you do, there'll be no going back.
 
[X] Too much is still at stake. Go outsystem aboard the Adamant for this investigation. It'll be safer, but it'll also take you away from the source of your accelerated workflow. And cost days of precious time away from the Consolat homeworld. (Will noticeably extend the length of the turn)

No. We don't know enough and some of the possible consequences are too risky.

We don't know how this invisible nexus works ordinarily.

We don't know if this boost is coming from whatever the Consolat had done to create the Secrets trying to fix itself in which case it might try to consume Mary or even the whole of Humanity if we do this inside the Consolat home system.

And the Consolat home system itself could be too loud for us to actually be able to properly examine this invisible nexus.

Go outside the half-completed Secrets machine to examine if Mary is an invisible nexus of some sort.

And now I sleep - oh god why did I stay up this late.

Because you didn't go to sleep at 5-6 PM? Duh. :V
 
[X] The risk is worth it. Prepare a space on the Consolat Origin itself to the best of your shared ability, and attempt to unravel the truth here. Just hope you don't get anything wrong, because if you do, there'll be no going back.

I'm willing to take this leap.
 
Hmm...

If we go outsystem, our Magi will have more time to scrape the Archive.

How long do we expect that to take?
 
Hmm... tough choices. Origin might have the strongest signal to tease out any links or might drown out the links. Might provoke unwanted reactions, but might also eat too much of our time to travel out.
 
[X] Too much is still at stake. Go outsystem aboard the Adamant for this investigation. It'll be safer, but it'll also take you away from the source of your accelerated workflow. And cost days of precious time away from the Consolat homeworld. (Will noticeably extend the length of the turn)
 
"After that?" You grimaced. "We want to try and examine your presence within humanity's web, kinda like an input/output test. See where it connects, how it does so, and the way in which your soul integrates any energies. It's a poor explanation, as it's so much more than that, but it's all I've got."
Given the way Secrets work, I'd also be looking the possibility that the effect is extremely extrinsic, having more to do with her "location" in the web than her soul's I/O ports
 
[X] The risk is worth it. Prepare a space on the Consolat Origin itself to the best of your shared ability, and attempt to unravel the truth here. Just hope you don't get anything wrong, because if you do, there'll be no going back.

I trust Snowfire to make it interesting either way.
Or perhaps just in his dice. ;)
 
[X] The risk is worth it. Prepare a space on the Consolat Origin itself to the best of your shared ability, and attempt to unravel the truth here. Just hope you don't get anything wrong, because if you do, there'll be no going back.

Aaargh, tough one. This is pretty dumb decision, but then, we're currently flying through Shiplord space wearing an overcoat and a fake moustache, walking up to strangers and going "Hello, my fellow Shiplord! It is I, another Shiplord! Isn't it a fine day to be a Shiplord? Let us discuss the deepest cultural mysteries of us Shiplords, the details of which I am entirely aware of already, of course! As I am a Shiplord!" So this kind of decision-making is right in our wheelhouse, really.
 
Because you didn't go to sleep at 5-6 PM? Duh. :V
Don't you go and bring logic into this!
Hmm...

If we go outsystem, our Magi will have more time to scrape the Archive.

How long do we expect that to take?
I'm guessing you mean how long will the archive scrape take? It's a good ways in, but you've found that the sheer size of the thing is starting to strain your storage capacity. There's going to be an option next turn to expand the Magi's server farm, which is also expected to be of use when you get around to digging at the old university's archives.
Given the way Secrets work, I'd also be looking the possibility that the effect is extremely extrinsic, having more to do with her "location" in the web than her soul's I/O ports
And here we see an example of how Amanda knows what she's doing, but I don't 😅
currently flying through Shiplord space wearing an overcoat and a fake moustache, walking up to strangers and going "Hello, my fellow Shiplord! It is I, another Shiplord! Isn't it a fine day to be a Shiplord? Let us discuss the deepest cultural mysteries of us Shiplords, the details of which I am entirely aware of already, of course! As I am a Shiplord!"
Hey, hey, it's not that bad. You've got the ability to cheat hard enough for that to actually work, after all.
 
[X] The risk is worth it. Prepare a space on the Consolat Origin itself to the best of your shared ability, and attempt to unravel the truth here. Just hope you don't get anything wrong, because if you do, there'll be no going back.

Does anyone seriously believe the dice won't favour us for this?
 
[X] The risk is worth it. Prepare a space on the Consolat Origin itself to the best of your shared ability, and attempt to unravel the truth here. Just hope you don't get anything wrong, because if you do, there'll be no going back.

Does anyone seriously believe the dice won't favour us for this?
I feel a nat 1 a-coming 🎵
 
Don't you go and bring logic into this!

I didn't. This is a story about the nature of souls and the consequences of actions. Literally logic's warm and toasty study with a fireplace.

[X] The risk is worth it. Prepare a space on the Consolat Origin itself to the best of your shared ability, and attempt to unravel the truth here. Just hope you don't get anything wrong, because if you do, there'll be no going back.

Does anyone seriously believe the dice won't favour us for this?

My objection comes more from the fact that I expect a penalty on actually learning what Mary's deal is because we learn how she interacts with the Consolat's home system instead.
 
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