[X] Corax, the Shadow
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Hm, it might have been a more contested vote if the other two options were, say, Guilliman and Sanguinius. Guilliman being placed in the role of Lorgar's guide would have been just as ironic and hilarious as Corax being assigned this position. As for Sanguinius, well, it is self-explanatory.
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Now the real question can the Daemon primarch version of Logar interact with Corax
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Perhaps they would act as the metaphorical devil and angel over Lorgar's shoulder.
Hm, Lorgar does seem to have shifted his counterpart's position ever so slightly, which is impressive. As noted, Daemon Prince Lorgar went from saying that Chaos is inevitable and that the other Lorgar could not resist it forever to simply telling Lorgar that Chaos is inevitable and to save what little he can when the time comes.
If Lorgar interacts further with his Daemon Prince counterpart throughout this vision quest, one wonders if Lorgar can further shift his counterpart's position. With his Essence awakened, Lorgar has achieved true enlightenment and opened his eyes to cosmic truths. Perhaps he might be able to help his counterpart attain true enlightenment as well, at least help him reach one step closer to it.
This conflict is a social one, after all. It will be a disucssion and debate.
Hm, Lorgar does seem to have shifted his counterpart's position ever so slightly, which is impressive. As noted, Daemon Prince Lorgar went from saying that Chaos is inevitable and that the other Lorgar could not resist it forever to simply telling Lorgar that Chaos is inevitable and to save what little he can when the time comes.
If Lorgar interacts further with his Daemon Prince counterpart throughout this vision quest, one wonders if Lorgar can further shift his counterpart's position. With his Essence awakened, Lorgar has achieved true enlightenment and opened his eyes to cosmic truths. Perhaps he might be able to help his counterpart attain true enlightenment as well, at least help him reach one step closer to it.
This conflict is a social one, after all. It will be a disucssion and debate.
The Lion is tempting due to unbreakable will and how that virtue defends against the warp.
Corax is tempting, if I remember correctly he's the one that chased deamon Lorgar into a tower right? After whooping him. Intrigue is needed when facing a larger threat and is a scapal instead of a hammer when facing Chaos. Finding their shadows when they infiltrate is just as important. Some Primarchs didn't fall due to personal failing but their Children falling first and betraying them.
Corax is tempting, if I remember correctly he's the one that chased deamon Lorgar into a tower right? After whooping him. Intrigue is needed when facing a larger threat and is a scapal instead of a hammer when facing Chaos. Finding their shadows when they infiltrate is just as important. Some Primarchs didn't fall due to personal failing but their Children falling first and betraying them.
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[X] Corax, the Shadow
Yzarc
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I had all the Loyalist Primarchs as an option initially, but cut it to these three as Sang is as dead as Horus and Guilliman is in Stasis and not available. Vulcan is nowhere and the Khan is in the Webway.
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guys here is some extra context for why voting for Corax to lead Lorgar is extremely funny and ironic
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKMRmpCY0vQ
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKMRmpCY0vQ
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[X] Corax, the Shadow
Yzarc
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Updated both your sheet and that of Lorgar. Let me know if I missed something.
Will work on converting the Ebon Dragon charms and Prayer charms.
Then only Lorgar's Mythos powers are left. After the vision quest, you can directly purchase powers for Lorgar at 10xp each.
Can someone total how much xp was earned in the 3 turns?
Will work on converting the Ebon Dragon charms and Prayer charms.
Then only Lorgar's Mythos powers are left. After the vision quest, you can directly purchase powers for Lorgar at 10xp each.
Can someone total how much xp was earned in the 3 turns?
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[X] Corax, the Shadow
I can't not think of TTSD Corax from the Bro Trip webisodes.
That's reason enough to vote Corax. . .
I can't not think of TTSD Corax from the Bro Trip webisodes.
That's reason enough to vote Corax. . .
Hmm... looking at the MA charms I think Lorgar is very much a glass canon primarch wise. He can beat a more physically focused adversary, but he has to burn a lot of Essence. He is going to get mote tapped fast with only 10, so he wins in the first few rounds or not at all. That makes sense in terms of the narrative since Lorgar's power isn't intrinsic to his legend it is born of understanding and being able to conscious use his Mythos.
Yzarc
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Updated Lorgar's powers. Each cost 10xp but I am still determining how much xp Lorgar will get. Keep in mind that developing powers from Mythos is HARD. Normally, a Primarch has to go through hell and back to gain such powers.
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Does lorgar's redemption power works on pure demons as well?
Yzarc
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Yes. It does.
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How about demon weapons?
Yzarc
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You cannot debate with a Sword......well you can but Lorgar is not a Physical Primarch.
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I am thinking about end of Empire.
Seeing as we are about to have 60 odd XP to spend the following charms will be broken down into Buy Now/Buy Later/Buy as Needed, or in other words things I feel Lorgar needs or could really use right now, things which are nice to have but not really important at the moment and things which are more circumstantial which we probably only want if those circumstances seem likely
Buy now. This is Witchsight+ basically, it will keep him safe from being spied or attacked by de-materialized beings such as daemons and psykers while also giving him an edge in physical and social combat
Buy later, it will be very useful when he meets other primarchs and other movers and shakes of the Imperium, but while still on planet he can make due with mundane insights.
Buy later, second verse same as the first, he is already very very good at the socials and is unlikely to come up against people that he will need to lie detect with god-magic, but if he could get this off against his brothers or even the Emperor... ho boy. I mean Golden Boy isn't known for his stealth is what I'm going to say. Might work on a good roll
Buy now, we have a planet to organize and 70 people to do it with. Fan is also not that good at bureaucracy.
That planet we need to organize, we also need to uplift. Buy now and call him Papa Budget Smurf.
Buy later, I think we can figure out what we need to do to take over the planet without the charm and after that this will be useful in the Empire, especially if we go conquering. He's the social primarch so knowing what he needs to do to take a place with little or no violence is useful as all heck.
Buy as needed, it is a neat power, but circumstantial and will only come into its own once and if we plan to do big trades, probably after we meet the Emperor
If it were not for the Enuncia thing I would call this a pretty minor charm but as is and with that synergy, buy now. Each of the three words we can teach him on their own are as powerful as any of the stronger charms he can master.
Buy as needed, maybe he can make Mortarion not hate him as much as he inevitably will, but it is high risk high reward because if he notices...
Buy as needed, like the above but even more skeevy and liable to get him in trouble if noticed
Buy later, Chaos will be coming for us sooner rather than later and this is a good counter to some of their meddling, but I do not think we should worry about this until we actually have the planet
Buy now, this is what we would use to take the planet, motivate the slaves to rebel etc...
Very circumstantial, buy as needed. It makes more sense to use those rolls to grind down the intimacy with similar rolls than it does to go for a short term play like this unless you are in some kind of time crunch
OK, who let the Ebon Dragon into the kid's charms... Oh, it might have been us oops.
Useful but not immediately so. One should probably have a plot in mind before you take the cover-up charm so buy as needed.
This is a hilarious power for a nine foot tall giant, for that alone, buy later.
True Faith can already do most of this, buy as needed
This is basically a social excellency, we should definitely buy it later when we have the XP to spare.
Very useful for when we take the planet, there are going to be a lot of people with their own ideas about how to do things. Persuasion will be necesary so buy now
Only does anything once you get betrayed, this is the definition of circumstantial and not a circumstance we want to come about. Buy as needed.
Chaos and general betrayl protections on the other hand is useful and will continue to be so. Buy later.
Buy now. This is Witchsight+ basically, it will keep him safe from being spied or attacked by de-materialized beings such as daemons and psykers while also giving him an edge in physical and social combat
Buy later, it will be very useful when he meets other primarchs and other movers and shakes of the Imperium, but while still on planet he can make due with mundane insights.
Buy later, second verse same as the first, he is already very very good at the socials and is unlikely to come up against people that he will need to lie detect with god-magic, but if he could get this off against his brothers or even the Emperor... ho boy. I mean Golden Boy isn't known for his stealth is what I'm going to say. Might work on a good roll
Buy now, we have a planet to organize and 70 people to do it with. Fan is also not that good at bureaucracy.
That planet we need to organize, we also need to uplift. Buy now and call him Papa Budget Smurf.
Buy later, I think we can figure out what we need to do to take over the planet without the charm and after that this will be useful in the Empire, especially if we go conquering. He's the social primarch so knowing what he needs to do to take a place with little or no violence is useful as all heck.
Buy as needed, it is a neat power, but circumstantial and will only come into its own once and if we plan to do big trades, probably after we meet the Emperor
If it were not for the Enuncia thing I would call this a pretty minor charm but as is and with that synergy, buy now. Each of the three words we can teach him on their own are as powerful as any of the stronger charms he can master.
Buy as needed, maybe he can make Mortarion not hate him as much as he inevitably will, but it is high risk high reward because if he notices...
Buy as needed, like the above but even more skeevy and liable to get him in trouble if noticed
Buy later, Chaos will be coming for us sooner rather than later and this is a good counter to some of their meddling, but I do not think we should worry about this until we actually have the planet
Buy now, this is what we would use to take the planet, motivate the slaves to rebel etc...
Very circumstantial, buy as needed. It makes more sense to use those rolls to grind down the intimacy with similar rolls than it does to go for a short term play like this unless you are in some kind of time crunch
OK, who let the Ebon Dragon into the kid's charms... Oh, it might have been us oops.
Useful but not immediately so. One should probably have a plot in mind before you take the cover-up charm so buy as needed.
This is a hilarious power for a nine foot tall giant, for that alone, buy later.
True Faith can already do most of this, buy as needed
This is basically a social excellency, we should definitely buy it later when we have the XP to spare.
Very useful for when we take the planet, there are going to be a lot of people with their own ideas about how to do things. Persuasion will be necesary so buy now
Only does anything once you get betrayed, this is the definition of circumstantial and not a circumstance we want to come about. Buy as needed.
Chaos and general betrayl protections on the other hand is useful and will continue to be so. Buy later.
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he isn't a sword yet
At some point it might be useful to give Lorgar the Shapechange mutation, so he can adopt a more conventional human sized form.
Can we develop a charm (Gifts of Greater Glory?) to expand VEE to be able to grant him Mythos Powers?
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These are charm level powers. I think Fan would have to possess them to teach them like he does with Martial arts.
The canon Exalted Gifts of Greater Glory charm can explicitly grant charms the Infernal doesn't (or can't) know. Martial Arts are a specific exception.
Yzarc
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Not charms per say so no. Even otherwise, GoGG is a charm I am not sure to allow as it serves no purpose right now. You are locked in what Yozi you can take and need to unlock charms. Lorgar is limited by xp.
So that charm is something I would need to think about.