Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)

Welp, it's been two hours I have to say as a GM I have enjoyed all the conversation this sparked, but now lets get this show on the road.
Adhoc vote count started by DragonParadox on Feb 7, 2024 at 8:23 AM, finished with 267 posts and 29 votes.
 
Well, it's not as bad as I thought, with the early dusk and Harrowmont being potentially capable of handling Essence.

Still would have prefered not to spend the time of course, bit better than feared.
 
[X]Plan Cloudburst

I don't believe prep is wasting time.
In my experience playing and running games, prep has usually been the better choice (not always, just usually).

Also I think when it comes to usefulness vs timespent ratio for preparation, I think Molly has one of the best. Almost any amount of prep we do is going to be more effective than most other people's. Though to be fair, we don't have outsiders on our side, and we've just seen what some mind control can get you.

For what it's worth, I think we would probably come out on top using either of the competing strategies. It's really arguing over efficiency and tiers of outcomes rather than success/failure.
 
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[X]Plan Cloudburst

I don't believe prep is wasting time.
In my experience playing and running games, prep has usually been the better choice (not always, just usually).

Also I think when it comes to usefulness vs timespent ratio for preparation, I think Molly has one of the best. Almost any amount of prep we do is going to be more effective than most other people's. Though to be fair, we don't have outsiders on our side, and we've just seen what some mind control can get you.

For what it's worth, I think we would probably come out on top using either of the competing strategies. It's really arguing over efficiency and tiers of outcomes rather than success/failure.
That, and also another important point in the vote was tiredness as the current arc seems to last forever, so many of us want to finish things faster, even though it may not be as efficient.
 
Arc 11 Post 82: Stacked Deck
Stacked Deck

13th of January 2007 A.D.

It's four hours to sunset when the vampires can move, it's almost four hours to sunset and people are still dying outside. There's a temptation, if temptation such an impulse can be called, to set things spinning here and go now, like you did in Cleveland, strike hard, strike fast, strike from two angles, but it just doesn't add up. Absent knowledge of your enemy's plans you don't know how she would react, what else she can call on in the eleventh hour.

"Sunset isn't midnight..." you half whisper the words as you follow Harrowmont to an unremarkable door behind which hides a remarkable room.

It's like some whimsical bibliophile god had taken Bock Ordered Books and compressed it into the space of what must have once been a small teacher's lounge. Shelves climb up to the ceiling dark stained like the study of an old world aristocrat only the edges giving a hint as to the flakeboard hiding underneath, though one cannot really fault the reason those edges are visible: books on every surface that will carry then, heavy leather-bound tomes emblazoned with Latin script, collections a dozen volumes strong aligned like soldiers before battle all in the same uniform, dog eared encyclopedias, holy books from from all around the world.

Even just glancing at the scarce English titles would raise a few eyebrows: The Complete Dead Sea Scrolls: Seventh Edition, Natural Magic by Giambattista della Porta, The Galdrabók: An Icelandic Book of Magic. Latin titles that you could probably still read with a bit of focus mingle on the shelves with the familiar-strange shape of Greek lettering, the flowing artistry of Arabic script and other even more obscure tongues.

Between the books are trinkets, candles, carved bones and half-assembled apparatuses that might be arcane trinkets, desk toys or as you judge a bit of both. A slow fan, slightly askew moves above casting the contents of the room into streaks of light and dark.

Though thresholds have no power over you still you pause in the door to call the others over which gives Harrowmont time to turn around and clap causing a lantern on the desk overshadowed by all the other contents of the room to suddenly burst into tongues of flame cold blue burnt orange... and the precise green of your anima.

"Well that is a good sign, complementary colors," your host offers with a smile. "Be welcome travelers into my humble abode."

The goblin's stomach makes a loud growling sound, presumably of hunger then he shoots an acknowledgement, probably not the answer he had been looking for so, to compensate, your own thanks err on the side of flowery and esoteric both.

***​

By the time the others arrive, a few minutes late and looking a bit wan on Harry's part from an attempted shooting next to a Wendy's of all places defeated with a lucky veil, the personal library had been converted into occult laboratory: the carpet kicked aside to reveal a pair of concentric summoning circles false panels slid aside to reveal secret compartments filled with yet more trinkets, personal notebooks and books with blank covers.

"Come, come one and all, there is much work to be done and I fear little time in which to do it. The fate of this city, nay this country hangs now in the scales of fate and the fortune we might wrest from the world."

Harry opens his mouth, most likely to snark and you are not the only one to think to. Tiffany elbows him on the way in as she extends her hand: "Tiffany MacNeil, healer and scholar of Enochian."

Normally when a man is struck dumb at the sight of your companion you assume it is her looks, but from his expression on hearing the last word she might as well have the looks of the cyclops Polyphemus. "Truly?"

"Oh we are going to get along just fine," Lash's smile broadens to something telling indeed. "Hypothetically Doctor Harrowmont...?"

"Just plain Alexander Harrowmont for the moment, I don't have my doctor's degree as of yet madam," he interjects flattered and not caring who notices it.

She nods, continuing smoothly. "If I had a means to provide greater mental clarity at the cost of potentially straining the body would you take it?"

Alexander Harrowmont opens his mouth, but seems to recall the other company he has before he can speak, looking instead to Harry, more specifically to Harry's grey cloak.

"It might give you the worst headache of your life but that's about the worst of it, assuming you can stay conscious," the wizard explains, looking a little awkward himself, not that someone who isn't familiar with him would be able to tell. When Harry's awkward he tends to scowl more with makes the crease between his brows... Focus Molly.

Tiffany has access to mental enhancement (MANIPULATE FLESH) which can improve all mental stats, without cutting into her limited supply of Faith. Who takes advantage of it and how many times to you roll?

If someone is knocked out Tiffany can heal them with RESTORE FLESH, but that costs 1 Faith Point to use (Current Faith2/3)

[] Molly

[] Lydia

[] Tiffany

[] Adkin (Stamina ●)

[] Harrowmont (Stamina ●●)

[] Harry (Stamina ●●●)


OOC: I was tempted to roll through this, but if I made the wrong call on Harrowmont and then Tiffany rolls too high the whole plan goes down the drain or at the very least you lose the faith you could use for nerve gas immunity later.
 
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Edits made, the spell-check did not work for some reason and I only now realized, fixed. Sorry about that guys. :oops:
Hmm. Standard healing potions are an Alchemy 2 product, and heal 2 Bashing HLs immediately.

@DragonParadox
QUESTION
How many healing potions can Molly get off the shelf from Sanctuary?
Its Alchemy 2, so its not rare.

EDIT
Plus, if she's a strike team on standby for a couple days, she's almost certainly got medical care and supplies on standby.
 
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Trying to boost Adkin seems like a good way to cause him to have a stroke or worse, considering his age and apparent frailty.
 
Trying to boost Adkin seems like a good way to cause him to have a stroke or worse, considering his age and apparent frailty.
Its bashing damage, not lethal damage. He's not at that sort of risk.

Manipulate Flesh is Int + Medicine at DC6. Lash is Int 4 + Medicine 4, average 4 successes.
Nobody here can take that without suffering some damage; however, Molly and Lydia can ignore the hit, Molly will heal it, and if we scrounge up healing potions from a Sanctuary medkits, we can eliminate the damage.
 
Hmm. Standard healing potions are an Alchemy 2 product, and heal 2 Bashing HLs immediately.

@DragonParadox
QUESTION
How many healing potions can Molly get off the shelf from Sanctuary?
Its Alchemy 2, so its not rare.

Those to not come in potions, they come in obviously alien patches you slap onto the target. If you are fine revealing those you can get 24 on short notice, just keep in mind that you would be showing them off to among other Adkin who is an alchemist.
 
Hmm. Standard healing potions are an Alchemy 2 product, and heal 2 Bashing HLs immediately.

@DragonParadox
QUESTION
How many healing potions can Molly get off the shelf from Sanctuary?
Its Alchemy 2, so its not rare.

EDIT
Plus, if she's a strike team on standby for a couple days, she's almost certainly got medical care and supplies on standby.
@DragonParadox further question - how hard would it be to get a fortune 2 practitioner to come bless the proceedings?
Those to not come in potions, they come in obviously alien patches you slap onto the target. If you are fine revealing those you can get 24 on short notice, just keep in mind that you would be showing them off to among other Adkin who is an alchemist.
We are about to bring in several cyborg alien fire teams. I don't think this is the biggest revelation to come.
 
Those to not come in potions, they come in obviously alien patches you slap onto the target. If you are fine revealing those you can get 24 on short notice, just keep in mind that you would be showing them off to among other Adkin who is an alchemist.
Molly: "It's magic." <Insert Jazz Hands> "I don't gotta explain shit."
 
Those to not come in potions, they come in obviously alien patches you slap onto the target. If you are fine revealing those you can get 24 on short notice, just keep in mind that you would be showing them off to among other Adkin who is an alchemist.
Not a problem.
We are bringing cyborg troops with Sanctuary tech firearms into Vegas in a couple hours; bringing medical supplies is the least of our issues.

VOTE
[X]All
-[X]Get healing potions/patches from Sanctuary
-[X]And ask to prepare armor for those party members we're taking with us
 
@DragonParadox further question - how hard would it be to get a fortune 2 practitioner to come bless the proceedings?

We are about to bring in several cyborg alien fire teams. I don't think this is the biggest revelation to come.

Harrowmont himself has Fortune 3 among other things, but that would mean another ritual. For someone who can do it more off the cuff... 45 minutes to get the call out and get them and their equipment sorted, though the traditions of Sanctuary may not play nice with the powers invoked in the ritual.
 
…Is armor proficiency a thing? Or, rather, will wearing armor have any impact on spellcasting abilities if they are not accustomed to such?
 
…Is armor proficiency a thing? Or, rather, will wearing armor have any impact on spellcasting abilities if they are not accustomed to such?
Not an issue.
Dresden wore Charity-made steel chainmail under his trenchcoat when he went to Arctis Tor to rescue Molly.
And Lydia wore the same when we went to the Museum.

The QM will decide what armor is available/appropriate, but Molly has Arsenal 3 on her personal char sheet, and sufficient foresight to have sized unpowered equipment for her usual companions.
This is a prepared assault. I assume we're going in loaded for bear.

Fae Mail 3 equivalent(Armor 3, no Dex penalty).
Maybe even Sidhe Plate equivalent (Armor 5, no Dex penalty). Definitely not powered armor though; if anyone is operating power armor, its gonna be the cyborgs, and even that is questionable.
 
[X]All
-[X]Get healing potions/patches from Sanctuary
-[X]And ask to prepare armor for those party members we're taking with us
 
[X]Plan Cloudburst

I don't believe prep is wasting time.
In my experience playing and running games, prep has usually been the better choice (not always, just usually).

Also I think when it comes to usefulness vs timespent ratio for preparation, I think Molly has one of the best. Almost any amount of prep we do is going to be more effective than most other people's. Though to be fair, we don't have outsiders on our side, and we've just seen what some mind control can get you.

For what it's worth, I think we would probably come out on top using either of the competing strategies. It's really arguing over efficiency and tiers of outcomes rather than success/failure.
Prep time in general isn't a waste, but there are limits to all things. Sandra has repeatedly demonstrated that her prep game is on point and chronically surprised us with her resources. Note that she did exactly what we were just talking about prior to this and tried to mess with us again. It didn't do much, but the encounter table roll wasn't spectacular and Dresden rolled well to mitigate.

As appropriate for his entire lifestyle as being shot in a Wendy's parking lot would be it would have been very inconvenient.

The point was that there's an ever increasing amount of risk weighing in on time we spend doing things other than disrupting her primary operations. In what Sandra will use it for herself, the risk of a slip up making our actual assault less effective, and managing the aftermath.

If she has anything else cooking the closer we are to midnight when we engage her the less time we have to manage everything else.

This wouldn't be the first time we had these issues in this quest. The Will of Kakuri involved several points where we left the opposition alone to do their thing while we did ours and got played because they were being proactive.

So we should do prep, but giving hours to an enemy like this is a mistake.
 
Not an issue.
Dresden wore Charity-made steel chainmail under his trenchcoat when he went to Arctis Tor to rescue Molly.
And Lydia wore the same when we went to the Museum.

The QM will decide what armor is available/appropriate, but Molly has Arsenal 3 on her personal char sheet, and sufficient foresight to have sized unpowered equipment for her usual companions.
This is a prepared assault. I assume we're going in loaded for bear.

Fae Mail 3 equivalent(Armor 3, no Dex penalty).
Maybe even Sidhe Plate equivalent (Armor 5, no Dex penalty). Definitely not powered armor though; if anyone is operating power armor, its gonna be the cyborgs, and even that is questionable.
Unlike hypothetical mundane power armor anything from sanctuary would be filled with demons and therefore immune to techbane, so I don't see why not.

Especially since this isn't exactly a low profile event they need to look like locals for and is basically taking place in the riskiest battlefield the Courts have every faced.

As far as any of us know it's more likely than not that dying here is final in a way they don't really deal with. If I was the commander for this sort of operation I wouldn't want to just roll up in standard kit. First operation at the command of their living goddess in a realm that will keep your soul if you die there?

Yeah; bring the heavy flamer, best armor on the market, and wildest fever dreams of cheating bullshit the military industrial complex of a place calling itself the city of war can provide.
 
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