What Happens Next (Slay The Princess/RWBY)

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[X] Show him the whole of the Shifting Mound. He deserves it. You know it won't drive him mad, but it will take him some time to recover from and digest the information.
 
[X] Show him the whole of the Shifting Mound. He deserves it. You know it won't drive him mad, but it will take him some time to recover from and digest the information.

I'm just curious how Ozpin will try to explain what he saw to his allies.

 
[X] Show him the whole of the Shifting Mound. He deserves it. You know it won't drive him mad, but it will take him some time to recover from and digest the information.
 
[X] Show him only your heart as the Shifting Mound. He'll see less of your power, but he'll understand it more, understand you more
 
[X] Show him only your heart as the Shifting Mound. He'll see less of your power, but he'll understand it more, understand you more.

Mind breaking Ozpin even a little may be a bit of a risk. Especially considering how stressful the near future is going to be.
 
[X] Show him only your heart as the Shifting Mound. He'll see less of your power, but he'll understand it more, understand you more.
 
We aren't going to mind breck him QM words.
It won't brick him and he will recover, but I imagine it will be the sanity equivalent of a concussion and I don't want the guy in the driver seat of Beacon having that at any point in the near future.
 
Even if he will be *Mostly* fine seeing the whole of the SM, I think baby steps are best here. Knowing that our power level is not 'A Billion' but 'N+1' doesn't really provide much considering we are not planning to exercise even a fraction as much as the Brother Gods could, even if The Apotheosis alone could probably beat them black and blue.
 
[X] Show him the whole of the Shifting Mound. He deserves it. You know it won't drive him mad, but it will take him some time to recover from and digest the information.
 
We all know what actually happened, with the whole philosophical debate, but Ozpin is definitely assuming there was a bed involved.

Not the first time I made this kind of joke. :V

Our little couple is actually completely clueless on that topic in fact. :V

Mind breaking Ozpin even a little may be a bit of a risk. Especially considering how stressful the near future is going to be.
It won't brick him and he will recover, but I imagine it will be the sanity equivalent of a concussion and I don't want the guy in the driver seat of Beacon having that at any point in the near future.
Even if he will be *Mostly* fine seeing the whole of the SM, I think baby steps are best here. Knowing that our power level is not 'A Billion' but 'N+1' doesn't really provide much considering we are not planning to exercise even a fraction as much as the Brother Gods could, even if The Apotheosis alone could probably beat them black and blue.

It's not the equivalent of a concussion (those are really dangerous).

You are not mind breaking him in any way that would lead to lasting consequences on that part, the consequences are in how he sees you.

And who said you will never exerce your power? I explicitly told several times that there are situations that will lead to you deciding to go full *witness me and despair*, they are rare, but they do exists.

I am telling it now: You will go full Shifting Mound at least once in this quest, this is not an if, this is a when and how often.

Yes, you are there to live as mortals, but sometimes the best way to do so is going to be to erase any trace of the thing that could have stopped you from doing it with prejudice.

In fact, think about what the Princess wants of Ozpin right now, and what him accepting her truly would mean for her prospect of living as a person.
 
Our little couple is actually completely clueless on that topic in fact. :V
That would explain why she thinks you don't need an arena for kissing. What is a bed if not an arena for kissing (and some other stuff)? :V
In fact, think about what the Princess wants of Ozpin right now, and what him accepting her truly would mean for her prospect of living as a person.
This is the crux of it, I think: The Princess in all her multitude doesn't want to be accepted as just a person (un)like any other, nor does she want to be accepted as just the divine force that is The Shifting Mound.

She wants to be accepted as containing both. Temporarily focusing on one or the other is fine, sure, but as some point the players and the world have to come to terms with the rest of her.

We can't avoid going sicko mode forever, it's in our nature :V

Honestly I'm voting Shifting Mound mostly because if the choice is to refuse trust at this stage or to offer it fully, I'd rather give him that extra trust and take the consequences as they may. We have a whole Thorn for matters of trust after all, I'd say the Princess is built for it.
 
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Hmm. Since we are on the subject, I feel as if The Shifting Mound as well as The Long Quiet would be HEAVILY disappointed in the Brother Gods, and see them as quite irresponsible. Could be a Topic to bring up with Ozzy.
 
Hmm. Since we are on the subject, I feel as if The Shifting Mound as well as The Long Quiet would be HEAVILY disappointed in the Brother Gods, and see them as quite irresponsible. Could be a Topic to bring up with Ozzy.

Speaking of gods: notice that Oz didn't talk about two gods when he said you reminded him of those he saw in the past, he included the god of Faunus.

I wonder why?
 
I feel I should ask, will LQ reciprocate and show as much of himself as Princess does? His greater form is much less confusing
 
I feel I should ask, will LQ reciprocate and show as much of himself as Princess does? His greater form is much less confusing

Yes, in fact, your meeting will take place in the Long Quiet no matter what, with how much Oz sees of it depending on how much you decide to show yourself.

If you show the heart, all Ozpin will see will be the cabin.

If you don't, Opzin will see the full Long Quiet too before at the same time as the Shifting Mound.

Both cases will have your love taking back the form he took in the construct for the duration as an avatar.

What I said on Oz being able to witness the Shifting Mound applies to the Long quiet too, you are two halves of a whole, particularly when it comes to that.
 
I mean, I dunno if the Long Quiet is that much less confusing, but he's probably a little more bounded, being a prison and all that
 
Okay. I was busy earlier, but now I had some time. Thinking about our options further and with Nyarky's clarifications taken into account, I want to propose a write-in.

[] Show him a fragment in preparation of the whole. Today he shall meet The Stranger to get an idea of your being. Once accomodated to her, he shall see the Shifting Mound's heart for understanding of your nature. And when he has grasped what his mortal mind can, he shall behold the Shifting Mound in her entirety, as befits a mortal who can look a multiversal being and remain unbroken.


A little wordy, but I think I captured the essence of my idea well enough. Basically, it is "show him everything" but separated into steps to mitigate old Ozpin's migraines. It also feels more natural to me than showing only a part or immediately going full multiversal deity.

(This also gives the QM a bit of structure for later meetings and, perhaps, even a general setup for the Ozluminati members that are brought in on the secret)


Edit: And I missed that we have no write-ins here. Back to showing everything then.
 
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Okay. I was busy earlier, but now I had some time. Thinking about our options further and with Nyarky's clarifications taken into account, I want to propose a write-in.

[X] Show him a fragment in preparation of the whole. Today he shall meet The Stranger to get an idea of your being. Once accomodated to her, he shall see the Shifting Mound's heart for understanding of your nature. And when he has grasped what his mortal mind can, he shall behold the Shifting Mound in her entirety, as befits a mortal who can look a multiversal being and remain unbroken.


A little wordy, but I think I captured the essence of my idea well enough. Basically, it is "show him everything" but separated into steps to mitigate old Ozpin's migraines. It also feels more natural to me than showing only a part or immediately going full multiversal deity.

(This also gives the QM a bit of structure for later meetings and, perhaps, even a general setup for the Ozluminati members that are brought in on the secret)
Write-ins are barred for this vote:
No write-ins here, one of the two, what do you show Ozpin?
 
Sorry, no write-ins is here because the Princess already has a way to do the *will go step by step* in some ways, going for the heart allows her to test the waters, but risks Ozpin showing her something that will make her afraid to go farther later.

Hmm, how to say it, if you show your heart now, it is because the Princess is afraid to show her whole self, and it will take work to reach that point again, if you show all now, you are taking the risk of being rejected, but you are showing trust.

As for which one I personally favor, there is a hint in the update, I am sure you can find it if you look at all of it.

On a related topic, my favorite route is not the Thorn, but the Moment of Clarity. As for why I am telling that, that's for you to ponder, but there is a part of it that is relevant there.

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No matter the result, there is no wrong answer, there is one I personally favor, but the one you give will be your own no matter what.

Edit2, it had been some time:

Oh, and I am stealing that:
(This also gives the QM a bit of structure for later meetings and, perhaps, even a general setup for the Ozluminati members that are brought in on the secret)
 
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On a related topic, my favorite route is not the Thorn, but the Moment of Clarity. As for why I am telling that, that's for you to ponder, but there is a part of it that is relevant there.
The Moment of Clarity is unique in the sense that it has a cut timeframe of repetitions after seeing what is beneath The Wraith's mask. It fades back in on all choices having been tried and failed, all voices present, and only a single option left. If you had not already said there will be no mindbreak, that would be a hint going that way.

But without mindbreak, I imagine the name is telling here: there will be a moment of clarity for both sides. Either may not like or get shaken by what they see.


Either way, I am still in favour of going all-in. The mental image I have of the Princess is someone who wants to trust, and who is willing to extend that trust to someone who has done her no harm and made no motion to do so.
 
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