The God Diversion
- Thread starter Birdsie
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GildedSergeant
Tarnished Gold and Rattling Bones
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So it looks like the top two votes have full disclosure, we should probably figure out how we want to deal with the attention. Sol's predictions and connections should let us tell who's only interested in us for our power, but we might have issues if our upperclassmen try to pick a fight or play games with us
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[X] Plan Grand Caster Says no to Harems
Romance is a horrific idea for someone as mentally fucked as Sol. Birdsie has stated multiple times why Sol does not think dating is a good idea, and none of those factors have changes significantly. Sol needs friends, not the commitment that comes from a significant other. He barely has the will to do things for himself, let alone someone else. Even opening up to the idea with casual dates is a bad idea, teenage romance is messy and a lot of work. More work than I think sol is able to put in.
Romance is a horrific idea for someone as mentally fucked as Sol. Birdsie has stated multiple times why Sol does not think dating is a good idea, and none of those factors have changes significantly. Sol needs friends, not the commitment that comes from a significant other. He barely has the will to do things for himself, let alone someone else. Even opening up to the idea with casual dates is a bad idea, teenage romance is messy and a lot of work. More work than I think sol is able to put in.
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I think the Grand Caster plan should probably specify to only remind Penelope of Damien if Solomon believes this will go well. I don't think it's obvious from our vantage whether he would believe this; Sure, Penelope has the power to go for a suitable solution, but Would she use them like that, or in some other way which unexpectedly makes the situation worse somehow? Would she settle for the greatest impact she is totally confident won't backfire, or just aim for the greatest impact?
I'm also generally inclined against the leap-to-romance direction of Grand Caster without 'Says no to Harems', but it's not really a tactical thing, so there's not much to say there.
I think on the whole, I'd consider best something like...
[X] Plan Investigateandbond-And-Explore-And-Head-Off-Problems-and-get-a-cool-outfit-and-maybe-Remedial-and-remember-the-cups-discount-exists
-[X] Full disclosure
-[X] Exploration
--[X] Join the Club
-[X] Ask Samantha for a cool outfit with whatever optimisations have been suggested or Solomon thinks best. Also teleport places when Solomon feels like it (Maybe this can develop into a technique or something but I doubt it), but don't move from the dorm to a tower unless Solomon thinks Harrison would come with.
-[X] Bonding: Penelope
--[X] Ask Penelope to investigate the Apostles
--[X] If Solomon confidently believes Penelope can effectively handle (or at least definitely not worsen)the Damien situation given however much advice he can currently give, remind her of the Damien situation and give any useful advice.
-[X] If Penelope has not been reminded of the Damien situation, Bonding: Damien. Otherwise, Classwork: Remedial.
-[X] If the Cups Discount can be accumulated across turns for a single cumulative or pending action, apply it to Improve Curriculum. (or, in the highly unlikely event it's permanent, linear, and no greater than 5, apply it to Bonding). Otherwise, apply it to Exploration, unless Exploration - Join The Club costs 10 Will (it's Slightly ambiguous) and you took Remedial Classwork, in which case apply it to that.
(Harrison has been a fine roommate and passive social actions are a good thing. Honestly, it might even be worth it if he did resume his originally-advertised forced activities; we can now handle the Will cost better and it helps action economy, since it doesn't cost Actions.and with Eldritch doing exercise probably wouldn't cost as much Will anyway)
I'm also generally inclined against the leap-to-romance direction of Grand Caster without 'Says no to Harems', but it's not really a tactical thing, so there's not much to say there.
I think on the whole, I'd consider best something like...
[X] Plan Investigateandbond-And-Explore-And-Head-Off-Problems-and-get-a-cool-outfit-and-maybe-Remedial-and-remember-the-cups-discount-exists
-[X] Full disclosure
-[X] Exploration
--[X] Join the Club
-[X] Ask Samantha for a cool outfit with whatever optimisations have been suggested or Solomon thinks best. Also teleport places when Solomon feels like it (Maybe this can develop into a technique or something but I doubt it), but don't move from the dorm to a tower unless Solomon thinks Harrison would come with.
-[X] Bonding: Penelope
--[X] Ask Penelope to investigate the Apostles
--[X] If Solomon confidently believes Penelope can effectively handle (or at least definitely not worsen)the Damien situation given however much advice he can currently give, remind her of the Damien situation and give any useful advice.
-[X] If Penelope has not been reminded of the Damien situation, Bonding: Damien. Otherwise, Classwork: Remedial.
-[X] If the Cups Discount can be accumulated across turns for a single cumulative or pending action, apply it to Improve Curriculum. (or, in the highly unlikely event it's permanent, linear, and no greater than 5, apply it to Bonding). Otherwise, apply it to Exploration, unless Exploration - Join The Club costs 10 Will (it's Slightly ambiguous) and you took Remedial Classwork, in which case apply it to that.
(Harrison has been a fine roommate and passive social actions are a good thing. Honestly, it might even be worth it if he did resume his originally-advertised forced activities; we can now handle the Will cost better and it helps action economy, since it doesn't cost Actions.
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Yeah I dislike most of the riders on grand caster even if I agree with the individual actions. Asking penny for help is fine, but building the wizard tower in fortuna (something we don't know how easy it would even be for us or if it will cut into our exploration time), and the whole romance thing don't really sit right with me. Having a roommate has been fine, and like you said it could open up more passive action opportunities. Im concerned building the wizard tower might take up the bulk of our exploration time, when I would rather just get a look at what fortuna is like and explore with the club.
Rihaku
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As always, waifu wars are a bombshell of engagement, huh...
My impression is that Sol does know his classmates reasonably well and has had numerous casual conversations with them (as we see him having with Josh, Francis, Damien, Samantha etc throughout the updates), though not nearly as many as a social butterfly like Harrison or Penny would. If @Birdsie confirms that Sol has literally never talked to Chloe before I will adjust Grand Caster.
Good idea, I've added a rider addressing the Cups discount and inviting Harrison to hang out with or move into the Sanctum with us, however Sol and he prefer. The Sanctum should be way comfier than the dorm and given their Aspects shouldn't impose any meaningful mobility restrictions on them.
The greater issue may be that even if he knows it's primarily for his power, he may accept or be socially steamrolled into a relationship anyway, given what happened with Grace. Or at the very least we may be forced to spend Will fending off something we could have trivially pre-empted by being proactive.
My impression is that Sol does know his classmates reasonably well and has had numerous casual conversations with them (as we see him having with Josh, Francis, Damien, Samantha etc throughout the updates), though not nearly as many as a social butterfly like Harrison or Penny would. If @Birdsie confirms that Sol has literally never talked to Chloe before I will adjust Grand Caster.
Good idea, I've added a rider addressing the Cups discount and inviting Harrison to hang out with or move into the Sanctum with us, however Sol and he prefer. The Sanctum should be way comfier than the dorm and given their Aspects shouldn't impose any meaningful mobility restrictions on them.
The greater issue may be that even if he knows it's primarily for his power, he may accept or be socially steamrolled into a relationship anyway, given what happened with Grace. Or at the very least we may be forced to spend Will fending off something we could have trivially pre-empted by being proactive.
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A relationship requires active action, though? Even if a person keeps saying 'hey let's be friends', I'd think the path of least Will would be to ignore them, or at most to cast a spell to mute and repel them. I don't really see how it would take Will to not date someone.
If you were concerned about someone walking into Solomon's dorm on a contrived pretence and asking to borrow all his new magic toys and not return them, I could maybe see the argument that it might take will to stop them (though even then, I'd expect Solomon to throw them out/not let them in or something, without a Will cost. Not like the fight against the Eldritch Thing cost us Will!), but for this, even less so.
(Plus, you're not just arguing for a Will cost, you're arguing for a Will cost comparable to 30. If it's 5 Will, that's not enough to justify the action.)
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The idea that Sol will get brute forced into a relationship just does not fit his character in any way. He is quite adept at dodging anything he thinks is too much work, especially if he thinks it's a bad idea overall. The amount of work a relationship would entail is more than enough reason for him to avoid it without a will cost.
Rihaku
The Internet
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The association with a long term commitment that will require repeated investment vs someone taking candy he didn't even like is an extreme stretch. One requires zero input on his part afterwards, and the other requires a continuous investment of time and energy. It's a baseless claim.
[X] Plan Grand Caster Says no to Harems
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Rihaku
The Internet
Again you've dodged the main issue:
"It certainly seems possible that, given Full Disclosure, Sol may end up passively acquiescing to a relationship he doesn't mind, but we very much do, and which would not be as healthy for him as with a less exploitative partner...
Let's just accept Birdsie's original words: if he didn't think it would end calamitously, he'd 'settle for anything.' This implies a far greater degree of motivation (or desperation) than your optimistic reframing."
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You assume Sol doesn't want a relationship; Birdsie has already disproven this. Sol will accept many relationships including ones we think are bad for him, which means we'll have to spend Will defusing that. "A gold-digger that occupies Sol's time and attention while providing limited tactical, strategic, or emotional support" may well be a wholly acceptable relationship in Sol's perspective; it's suboptimal but far from calamitous. Better to be proactive and control his destiny.
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- God Diversion lore..
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Birdsie: You guys need more self-confidence
Be more like Mutant Master
That guy's oozing with confidence
He had the balls to raise his hand in class and say, "My Role should remake my genetics to conform to the standard of 1940s Germany."
Birdsie —
The Mastermind could almost swear
he'd heard him humming 'Im Wald, Im Grunen Walde' under his breath once.
All the Supervillains were pretty concerned about Mutant Master.
Except Trevor.
Trevor was cleaning his guns and thinking about all the ways he could make the world a better place.
ArcanaVitae —
I'm guessing that Mutant Master ain't around no more.
Birdsie —
He's been imprisoned in 2000, escaped in 2002 with the help of a couple of his comrades, then was captured once more in 2017 with the help of the Traveler.
ArcanaVitae —
Huh that's acutally pretty sucessful considering that he's a Supervillian.
questionable —
im surprised that chloe didn't go for any social aspects
Birdsie —
Honestly if you ignore the fact that he's basically a closeted neo-Nazi (?) Germanophile, Mutant Master isn't that bad
Had a chad moment where he made Olympian's son into a Mutant just to prove a point.
Something-something, "We're not so different you and I. Meant to lead humanity to greatness with out power."
_brightwing —
Penny's brother?
Birdsie —
"That's surely what the Educator meant in making us."
Birdsie —
Yes, older brother.
questionable —
i don't think we should ignore that
Birdsie —
One of two.
Both of the brothers inherited some powers from their parents
which is what made Penny (who didn't) such an anomaly.
It convinced Olympian she was fated for Enrollment.
_brightwing —
Clearly this means Sol must now beome Lord Voldemort
Birdsie —
Honestly Mutant Master if he were free at the time of the Metaphysician's Streak
probably would've become one of his sworn followers.
Similar ideologies of, "people can't be trusted with their own self-determination and governance." Just different motivation and ways of going about it.
_brightwing —
Who has commited more war crimes?
ArcanaVitae —
Acutally how many siblings does Penny have?
Birdsie —
Between Mutant Master and the Metaphysicist, or between the Supervillains?
_brightwing —
the former two
Birdsie —
Two older brothers and that's it.
Olympian learned his lesson.
ArcanaVitae —
That's ominous. But I suppose having a Reality Warper give birth would be terrifying for everyone invovled.
Birdsie —
Nah, the Continuum confers extremely fine control.
In fact, Lady Justice finds it difficult to deploy extremely powerful effects.
She put all her points in precision work and variety.
She's also advanced science by leaps and bounds.
ArcanaVitae —
Honestly fair given that Reality Warping is OP enough and has potent consequences to backlash.
Birdsie —
She's way better than any mere particle collider.
Discovered entirely new aspects of quantum physics, although most of them can't be replicated with modern science (yet.)
ArcanaVitae —
Powers have to be really useful for stuff like that.
Birdsie —
Well, that's a lie.
_brightwing —
We should have gone Christmas and went high tech
Birdsie —
They can be replicated with Thematic science in areas where such Thematics rule.
People in Argentina really having fun.
ArcanaVitae —
If Reality Warping wasn't the problem then what lesson did the Olympian learn?
Birdsie —
Hard Science Fiction spread over most of South America.
ArcanaVitae —
Your kids can and will be used against you?
Birdsie —
No.
Changing the diapers of a kid who can melt through the ceiling with laser vision is top priority.
Unless you want a leaky bathtub.
ArcanaVitae —
F in the chat.
_brightwing —
So South America is essentially Wakanda now
Birdsie —
He lived that Incredibles 2 Bob life.
ArcanaVitae —
So many sleepless nights must've been had.
That poor man.
He didn't deserve that.
.....
Birdsie —
They call him the Paragon Exemplar.
The First of the Enrolled.
The Greatest Hero in the World.
But the name he's proudest of above all else
is
"Dad."
ArcanaVitae —
that is so sweet.
_brightwing —
Penelope must have been a breathe of relief.. and worries for the future
Birdsie —
For a second, he was almost hopeful.
Then realized what it actually means.
ArcanaVitae —
Yeah on one hand yeah no sleepless nights on the other oh shit Enrollment kinda is chaotic.
Birdsie —
"Well, darling, look on the bright side - we won't have to save for college."
Lady Justice, 2008
Free Education.
ArcanaVitae —
Actually now that Penny has been Enrolled.
What are her parents and siblings reactions?
_brightwing —
I really want another Penny POV
Getting inside her head after her dreams getting realised like this unexpectedly
Birdsie —
Olympian's made a public address he'd like the next Class to enter to show to her and her Classmates.
Older brother is proud she'll surpass him, younger brother's still sulking in prison.
R' —
How is lady justice of all people even remotely hurting for money
Birdsie —
It's a joke, Rihaku.
ArcanaVitae —
The younger brother is in prison? Is he the mutant one?
Birdsie —
Fell onto the wrong path. Eventually turned himself in.
It was on the news.
R' —
It's too bad we won't be able to pay her to appear in our Penny's Mom video
ArcanaVitae —
That sucks but at least he's trying to turn over a new leaf.
Birdsie —
It's a shame neither of them was Enrolled, they would've been interesting as Enrolled.
R' —
Anyway, I thought penny and chloe were friends
ArcanaVitae:
Also from the fact that there was a public address by him that likely means it's well known that Penny is Enrolled.
How did the world and other Enrolled react to the possibility of the children of Enrolled becoming Enrolled themselves?
Birdsie:
You aren't certain. The Architecture is muddy. Curious, scared. The world is torn, as it usually is.
_brightwing:
Man I'm keeping my fingers crossed for Drone Villain's daughter to pop up in Gothic Horror class.
R':
We should go full Gandalf
And start smoking a pipe
_brightwing:
Smoking is the kabbalistic path to untold powers over the cosmos
ArcanaVitae:
Wizard Smoking is cool.
_brightwing:
Hmm, I should get around to compiling my notes on Tikkun
ArcanaVitae:
Elminster and Gandalf do it.
John Constantine does it too.
_brightwing:
(although Gandalf kinda be cribbed from the Hermit card)
ArcanaVitae:
But he's not a good role model
_brightwing:
I am the secret fire..
Birdsie:
Finally, you guys understand the secret of wizardry.
Habit is the basis of all ritual.
_brightwing:
Does that mean we should make it a habit for Sol to go on dates?
Birdsie:
If she did, she'd be a scientist who makes Gothic drones.
ArcanaVitae:
Actually, could Sol make potion cigs?
Birdsie:
Anyway, Drone Villain is simply carving out a function within his Enrollment to share it with his daughter, sort of like Arcane Induction.
And have it pass fully onto her when he dies from old age or w.e.
(It's fine, he's insured himself with an afterlife.)
ArcanaVitae:
Being able to talk to the dead is a thing. He probably got the really good package too.
Birdsie:
"He's in a better place, sweetie."
Hades: "Well, yeah."
"Pretty much."
ArcanaVitae:
Now I'm just imagining Drone Villain causing shenanigans in the Afterlife.
And Hades not knowing whether to feel amused or annoyed.
But at least it gets him a break from the paperwork.
Actually, are there any Enrolled currently in Hades's Afterlife?
_brightwing:
Drone Villain be sending out drones from the afterlife.
He has a sacred pact to fulfill for the Olympian.
ArcanaVitae:
Hephaestus is happy to have help in the tech department.
_brightwing:
Olympian attending his funeral and letting out a weary sigh
Birdsie:
His daughter can take over the work.
Theirs shall be the Lineage of Drone.
ArcanaVitae:
Even from the Afterlife, I shall haunt you!!!!! The Olympian vaguely hears.
_brightwing:
Poor Penny..
Birdsie:
What if you're in a TV show
and every time someone says 'Justice' it flashes over to a title card
That becomes increasingly more luminous each episode.
"That's right, I'm..."
JUSTICE
"We want him caught! We want-"
JUSTICE
Penny's on that Invincible grindset
At least her dad's better than Omniman
ArcanaVitae —
THINK PENNY THINK!!!!!!
_brightwing —
I am stealing this for a future newspaper
ArcanaVitae —
The world is lucky Olypmian is such a cool dude.
_brightwing —
Where Olympian chastizes her for becoming part of Sol's harem
ArcanaVitae —
But that's part of the reason he fits the Role so well.
Birdsie —
Olympian really picked the name
and then some group of Greek geeks came out of nowhere 'bein like
"AND THEN ALONG CAME ZEUS, HE ZAPPED"
ArcanaVitae —
That must've been really awkward.
Birdsie —
Well they fought
ArcanaVitae —
For both the Greek Class and Gabriel
Birdsie —
And Olympian had to hold up the skies like Atlas for a second
But they ended up shaking hands
And everything is fine now
ArcanaVitae —
....... Did they acutally start a fight over nameing rights!?!?!?!!?!
Birdsie —
He's got the honor of calling himself Olympian of Olympus
Birdsie —
Unironically yes
He was called to Mt. Olympus and made to stand before the court to explain himself
ArcanaVitae —
I fucking love this quest.
Birdsie —
His argument of, "I picked it first," fell on deaf ears.
They demanded he rename himself
He considered it
Then said
"No."
Then Enrolled did what Enrolled do
ArcanaVitae —
Greek Class do be petty like that. But to be fair it likely has a thematic effect on him.
Birdsie —
It was all about Thematics
They were fighting over XP
It's their Theme to be petty fucks
It's his Theme to stand his ground and make his name something worth aspiring to
He ended up arguing to them why he should keep the name
And pretty much convinced them
and infected the Greek Theme with Superhero
It's still the Greek Theme but has a more positive valence
ArcanaVitae —
What a boss.
Magical_Duck —
Does Pen's Blindness Tech require her to remove her eye balls or just blind herself?
ArcanaVitae —
That's acutally probably how most Enrolled conflicts start isn't. Theme Clashes.
Birdsie —
He did that while holding up the sky
And being assaulted from every side
with the power of the Gods
The Armies of Ares, the Inventions of Hephaestus, the Wrath of Hera, etc.
ArcanaVitae —
Gabriel holdling up the Sky.
Birdsie —
Olympian is simply like that.
He Endures, then he Powers Through.
ArcanaVitae —
Olympian is Him.
He's the Will Monster for a Reason.
Birdsie —
I need you to understand something
Imagine you're some rando kid living a boring life in the early 1990s
The world's boring and mundane, full of war and petty conflict and crime and bad comic books
And then one day
for the first time in forever
you and your classmates are kidnapped by a man who promises you everything that's impossible
He says, "You can be Heroes"
If you take up this burden
Your classmates are scared
Who is this man? What does he want? What does he mean?
But you realize you have an opportunity to change the world
To, one step by another, wring what's bad out of it and make more of what's good
You are being offered this
And Gabriel decided that he'd risk it
And he stood at the center of the class
And told them it is worth the risk
From the very first moment
He embodied his Theme
Even before the discussion of Roles came up, he was a Super Man.
No one knew what Enrollment meant
what was actually being offered, if the Educator could be trusted
But Gabriel Storm decided he would become the Olympian and climb that mountain of the Gods
ArcanaVitae —
Image
Magical_Duck —
And he took the world by Storm
ArcanaVitae —
Gabriel gets better and better the more I hear about him.
Birdsie —
He's the Olympian for a reason.
ArcanaVitae —
Is there anyone that could give Gabriel a go in how much of an absolute boss they are.
I mean not just as an Enrolled but as a person?
(Besides Meta)
_brightwing —
This kinda reminds me of how Harrison stood up in right after enrollment, a shadow of him
ArcanaVitae —
Harrison is our classes's version of Gabriel. Harrison is the dude who can surpass the Will Monster.
Magical_Duck —
I ask because I wonder if Sol can make a potion of Blindness and Restore Blindness to allow her to activate when she wants?
_brightwing —
That will just nullify her sacrifice
ArcanaVitae —
Wouldn't work if you restore the Sight she looses the bonus. There's a Techqniue that already does that without extranal help.
_brightwing —
It's fine though, even if she is blind.. She'll still be able to See
I'm envisioning burning orbs smouldering in her sockets
barely covered up by cloth
Magical_Duck —
I know
But "It has the same effect as Blindfold of equivalent level, although enhanced"
So until she levels Blindfold she can use it for this
_brightwing —
might be her balance aspect at work
Removing the boon if her eyes are restored
Magical_Duck —
Also if she restores her Eyes and Loses the boon, does she loses level due to losing the discount?
Birdsie —
Sure. The Heartsmith, The Fearless Bogatyr, the Terraformist (before his depression), The Lone Ranger, the Youth Who Went Forth To Learn What Fear Was, some others.
Plenty of chads and girlbosses.
ArcanaVitae —
Look forward to seeing them and learning more about them.
What was the Terraformist like before the Depression and Break Up?
_brightwing —
ArcanaVitae —
Also what Class does The Lone Ranger Belong to?
_brightwing —
Interesting, they're Storybook so we should be able to meet them
Magical_Duck —
Weird West?
Birdsie —
Wanted to make the world a better place.
ArcanaVitae —
I can see him pulling that off, it's really fitting given his Role too.
Birdsie —
Nah, Wild West.
Aspect: Big Iron
Magical_Duck: How do the two wests get along?
คຖ໓rē ¢hค໐Ş: I like this one!
Birdsie: They're in two different wests, so. Only a couple made a trek across the Atlantic to go into the other one. The US Government isn't super supportive of the Wild West, though. It'd rather have, like Texas back, please?
คຖ໓rē ¢hค໐Ş: Too wild?
Birdsie: And the bits of New Mexico?
ArcanaVitae: Texas must love the Weird West. That's actually a really potent way to spread thematics. Must've gotten a lot of XP from that.
Magical_Duck: Is there not an overlap in Roles?
_brightwing: I love how Enrolled wrecks world politics.
Tyrant_Rayne: Honestly, they should just be happy that there even is a US Government after everything that happened.
_brightwing: I wonder if we'll get around to taking over Europa.
Birdsie: The Government Man disapproves of your attitude.
คຖ໓rē ¢hค໐Ş: Why is there even a government after everything?
ArcanaVitae: Actually, how many Enrolled work for various Governments? That doesn't really seem to be something people would do unless they have a Role involved in that.
Magical_Duck: The Second Coming is just around the corner.
ArcanaVitae: And I mean non-Enrolled Governments.
ArcanaVitae: People know there is a Bible Class given that they are 3rd Years. People are going to freak out.
คຖ໓rē ¢hค໐Ş: Maybe some just believe it's a good thing to do, civilized way or something.
Magical_Duck: Bible Class is likely gonna clash with the Gods of Ancient Babylon as well.
Birdsie: US is fucking swarmed with Themes. Teeming with them. Although only a few are competitive.
Magical_Duck: Roman Empire is a coin toss.
Tyrant_Rayne: There's probably already conflicts going on about whether or not to declare the whole class heretics or something.
Magical_Duck: I do wonder what the Once and Future King will do, though?
คຖ໓rē ¢hค໐Ş: I feel like after the apocalypse, many people are going to look at them nervously.
Tyrant_Rayne: So exactly how powerful is the guy who has the Jesus Role? Like in overall potential. Could he break into the top 10?
Magical_Duck: Hey Birdsie, how many Knights of the Round table are there?
คຖ໓rē ¢hค໐Ş: What kind of people are in Bible Class anyway?
ArcanaVitae: Jesus would have a lot of Thematic Power Ups from going on a Cross or Dying now that I think about it. That would be his equivalent of Hanging Himself or Blinding Himself.
Magical_Duck: Because is Jesus not himself the Once and Future King, with 12 Disciples/Knights?
คຖ໓rē ¢hค໐Ş: Shouldn't he let others do it?
Birdsie: Enrolled, or Knight-Enrolled specifically? I'd have to check, but it was a similar number to Superheroes and Supervillains.
Magical_Duck: Either. Just wanted to check what number you went with. Just stumbled upon a Jesus-Arthur connection.
Birdsie: 30.
Magical_Duck: Ah. Would the O&FK kneel to Jesus?
Magical_Duck: I do wonder if he has some Roman in him?
Birdsie: Man, the US is such a mess. Just for myself, I put together a map of territories affected Thematically. God, what a mess. And it'll be even worse once you graduate.
Basically, write off anything with too-thick a color as 'no longer under US' control except the East Coast. And the light green spilling from Los Angeles. That's just alien sightings zones and places where UFOs crash sometimes, pretty much.
ArcanaVitae: Tarot Class is US, right? Where is the Class from? Penny is there, so maybe New York?
Birdsie: New York, yes. This'll be the first time a second Theme emerges from the same location.
Magical_Duck: Gothic Horror will be London, I bet it. That or a small town in the south of Italy.
BunnyLord: Could you drop a key just to say what color's who? Some are obvious, but it'd be handy to have.
Birdsie: West Coast & Center: Magenta is Oregon, dark gray is Horror Movies, Green is Aliens, that spot in Vegas is Action-Archaeology, and Yellow is Wild West. Denver, Colorado has Highschool Drama.
East Coast: Red is Supervillains, Blue is Superheroes, White is Philosophy, Gray is Noir, and Green is Video Games.
ArcanaVitae: I'm guessing that the Camelot Class is the one with the most Knights. But who are notable non-Camelot Class Knights?
Birdsie: The Knight (Medieval Theme).
ArcanaVitae: Tarot Class is weird like that, with Sol having superpowers and Penny being the child of an Enrolled.
Birdsie: "Times a'-changin', Jackie."
Addio: Oregon consumed by the Trail to Oregon Class, huh?
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wow the u.s. has had 1/4th of all the enrolled classes thats bonkers. Heck no idea who got mars colonization most of them have fucked off they might of been from the u.s. though. Technically steampunk could be the u.s. since it was created there but its more likely to be europe especially England or germany.
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[X] Plan Grand Caster Says no to Harems
I have a general preference for this outcome over Grand Caster. I can't say Rihaku's concerns are totally ridiculous, but I don't put as much stock in them as he does.
I also think the line Rihaku keeps repeating is taken a bit out of context- 'If he didn't think it would be utterly calamitous' is as much a statement of emphasis about how bad things were for Solomon as it is about his actual standards, and I don't think 'settle for anything' can be reliably extrapolated to 'settle for someone who is definitely only in it for his power'; conscious exploitation might not fall under 'anything'. It seems selfevident he wouldn't settle for a relationship where they steal all his Coffee Jello, force him to exercise more than Harrison would've, and [insert more downsides here], but that relationship just sucks, it doesn't seem particularly likely to cause mutual calamity, given Solomon for some reason accepted it in the first place.
There is probably a range of detriment from relationships such that Solomon would not care, and we would, and Solomon would accept because it's within his range of standards. But that doesn't mean this range of detriments includes conscious exploitation, or literally every kind of relationship.
Of course, I still moreso support...
[X] Plan Investigateandbond-And-Explore-And-Head-Off-Problems-and-get-a-cool-outfit-and-maybe-Remedial-and-remember-the-cups-discount-exists
...but it's probably not going to win.
I have a general preference for this outcome over Grand Caster. I can't say Rihaku's concerns are totally ridiculous, but I don't put as much stock in them as he does.
I also think the line Rihaku keeps repeating is taken a bit out of context- 'If he didn't think it would be utterly calamitous' is as much a statement of emphasis about how bad things were for Solomon as it is about his actual standards, and I don't think 'settle for anything' can be reliably extrapolated to 'settle for someone who is definitely only in it for his power'; conscious exploitation might not fall under 'anything'. It seems selfevident he wouldn't settle for a relationship where they steal all his Coffee Jello, force him to exercise more than Harrison would've, and [insert more downsides here], but that relationship just sucks, it doesn't seem particularly likely to cause mutual calamity, given Solomon for some reason accepted it in the first place.
There is probably a range of detriment from relationships such that Solomon would not care, and we would, and Solomon would accept because it's within his range of standards. But that doesn't mean this range of detriments includes conscious exploitation, or literally every kind of relationship.
Of course, I still moreso support...
[X] Plan Investigateandbond-And-Explore-And-Head-Off-Problems-and-get-a-cool-outfit-and-maybe-Remedial-and-remember-the-cups-discount-exists
...but it's probably not going to win.
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[X] Plan Grand Caster Says no to Harems
[X] Plan Investigateandbond-And-Explore-And-Head-Off-Problems-and-get-a-cool-outfit-and-maybe-Remedial-and-remember-the-cups-discount-exists
I am functioning on a very basic principle derived from Rihaku over on Discord - clearly, if we don't have the screentime to interact with Damien we definitely don't have it for interacting with Chloe.
[X] Plan Investigateandbond-And-Explore-And-Head-Off-Problems-and-get-a-cool-outfit-and-maybe-Remedial-and-remember-the-cups-discount-exists
I am functioning on a very basic principle derived from Rihaku over on Discord - clearly, if we don't have the screentime to interact with Damien we definitely don't have it for interacting with Chloe.
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From an OOC perspective and an attention time perspective, its more productive and emotionally engaging to just date either Penny or Harrison or even Damien instead of dating someone the thread has never seen before.
If people really want to date someone to protect Sol from falling into the same trap Solomon did, you could do far worse than the Nuclear Powered Maiar.
If people really want to date someone to protect Sol from falling into the same trap Solomon did, you could do far worse than the Nuclear Powered Maiar.
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sol's able to tell the color of underwear someones wearing based on eye blinks he honestly knows more about some of his classmates than they know about themselves.
Asides rihakus vote lets sol choose which one he wants if he actually chooses.
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No that's literally an example birdsie gave this is the kind of life solomons lived most of his life.
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That is indeed what Grand Caster allows! It's Sol's choice whether to ask Penny or Chloe on a casual date, but only time and their actual interactions will tell if they have meaningful chemistry.
It's a shame that so much info is locked behind splintered Discord convos because the clarifications we got there informed much of this vote - Sol, despite his seeming indifference, is actually extremely interested in romance (as expected for a teenager) and was held back by his precognition and lack of Will. His classmates are enrolled so he can't precog them nearly as well and he just got a bunch of Will. It'll be tough for him, but one of the first steps to overcoming despair is simply acting on one's desires.
If we stifle his desires despite now coming into a surfeit of Will, that leads to a different kind of character development that I'm not enthused about. In this quest, Sol has always been decisive when he is stirred to action so this sudden hesitation in the social realm would be a step backwards.