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Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)

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BoredMan said:
Please explain your logic to me.
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It's simple: people don't care about the amount of damage, as soon as there's any, Shintai.

Having more health don't change that.

BronzeTongue said:
I know we're probably going to let her speak, but please remember basically everyone they screw over at some point went made the argument - if only to themselves - that since they knew about the danger it didn't apply to them. Those guys are dead or worse than dead now.
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None of them are exalted, is the thing, they only thought they could do better, we can, with god's spy guy himself confirming it, we are able to do the impossible, so comparing on the basis of what is possible for others is flawed in and on itself.

[x] Yog
 
DragonParadox said:
Bleak Ice Talisman
Description: No light may shine upon this gemstone for it is crystalized from tears shed in the endless dark of Kakuri Wan and frozen by its enteral winds
Ability: Can Store up to 3 Yin Chi or 2 Essence*

*Usable by both Molly and Lydia, may not be usable by other Exalts, deepening on how their Essence is aspected
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So how many of these do we want to craft? Because I look forward to essence shortages being something of the past.

Incidentally this Jade and this conversation are now a useful focuses for asking questions about Lash.
 
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offhand if we got the curse an office or a movement charm what would be the most possibly damaging thing to curse? The war, red court feeding, internal stabilizing elements, their headquarters itself?
 
fictionfan said:
So how many of these do we want to craft? Because I look forward to essence shortages being something of the past.

Incidentally this Jade and this conversation are now a useful focuses for asking questions about Lash.
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You guys cannot quite make these, Molly has moral objections to tormenting the dead until they are without hope, but you can certainly make something. The easiest way to go would be to use the elements, they are all around you and familiar, a source of proper Jade, though you are going to need significant densities and power of an element. Let's just say it's a good thing you have those charms for surviving in inhospitable environs. Diving into a volcano, the heart of a hurricane, the crushing depths of the ocean etc... is a very direct way to get close to the elements.
 
DragonParadox said:
You guys cannot quite make these, Molly has moral objections to tormenting the dead until they are without hope, but you can certainly make something. The easiest way to go would be to use the elements, they are all around you and familiar, a source of proper Jade, though you are going to need significant densities and power of an element. Let's just say it's a good thing you have those charms for surviving in inhospitable environs. Diving into a volcano, the heart of a hurricane, the crushing depths of the ocean etc... is a very direct way to get close to the elements.
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We also traded for those black market connections. They should come in handy now.
 
offhand can we start making a crown question list and focuses? Because there's so much spare essence we don't use off screen where molly could reasonably ask hundreds of questions. I know I asked this and dp basically already okayed us doing this.
 
firefrog600 said:
offhand can we start making a crown question list and focuses? Because there's so much spare essence we don't use off screen where molly could reasonably ask hundreds of questions. I know I asked this and dp basically already okayed us doing this.
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When a focus is a scene it kind of has to be done in the moment.
 
DragonParadox said:
"We could go to my place... world," you fire back, realizing how that sounded, then realizing you do have an entire world to take him to, then quickly shoving the thought out of mind before it can run away with you.
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DragonParadox said:
and if you happen to be humming at the time, well it's not like Black Rider or Clippy are going to say anything about it.
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A whole new world
A new fantastic point of view...
 
firefrog600 said:
eh no it really doesn't countless focuses exist in the world and molly has spare time. There's a reason dp didn't just say we can't do it.
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Not that many focuses for asking questions about Lash who is so disconnected from the world that we can't even sense her when we are in the room with Harry Dresden.

[X] With wary hope - this is both a danger and an opportunity in equal measures. Perhaps, she can be redeemed. Perhaps, you might get some useful information out of her. And you'll never forget that she's a great danger
-[X] Talk to her
--[X] Empathy and etiquette excellencies
--[x]use the conversation as a focus to ask "What are Lash's motivation in talking to you."

We aren't in her presence right now. If we can't use NWS on her then she can't detect us using the crown. Better to have the most direct focus we can.

For this conversation it likely doesn't even matter if we anima flare it's unlikely she can even see us. It's already super impressive that she has managed to find a way to project her voice like this.
 
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fictionfan said:
Not that many focuses for asking questions about Lash who is so disconnected from the world that we can't even sense her when we are in the room with Harry Dresden.

[X] With wary hope - this is both a danger and an opportunity in equal measures. Perhaps, she can be redeemed. Perhaps, you might get some useful information out of her. And you'll never forget that she's a great danger
-[X] Talk to her
--[X] Empathy and etiquette excellencies
--[x]use the conversation as a focus to ask "What are Lash's motivation in talking to you."

We aren't in her presence right now. If we can't use NWS on her then she can't detect us using the crown. Better to have the most direct focus we can.

For this conversation it likely doesn't even matter if we anima flare it's unlikely she can even see us. It's already super impressive that she has managed to find a way to project her voice like this.
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you know there are infinite questions in the world and a near equal amount of focuses? Just you know that doesn't mean we can ask everything. the hundreds of questions I think we can ask in mollys large amount of spare time are not everything we can ask.
 
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firefrog600 said:
you know there are infinite questions in the world and a near equal amount of focuses? Just you know that doesn't mean we can ask everything.
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I feel like we are saying the same thing, but you are acting like you are arguing with me. Are we on the same topic? That is asking questions about Lash.
 
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Is Sandact6's stuff any better than Holden's stuff out of curiosity? I posted it earlier since people were complaining. It'd need some adaptation though.

Crafting Proficiencies
  • Alchemy - Construction of various potions or chemicals. From powerful life-extending drugs to perfume.
  • Architecture - The construction of buildings, bridges, roads, or other civil engineering projects on land. Includes both carpentry and masonry for the purposes of constructing buildings.
  • Art - Knowledge of how to make formal pieces of art in any medium, be it painted or sculpted. Note objects made with this ability are usually purely made for appearance. Can also be used for more practical applications, such as making maps.
  • Blacksmithing - Construction of items that require the heating and shaping of metal. May be used to create weapons or armour.
  • Ceramics - Durable and heat resistant materials made from clay/powders/or other fine materials combined with water. Examples include bricks, pottery, or porcelain.
  • Cooking - How to make food that is both delicious and safe to eat.
  • First Age Artifice - The character knows and understands the secrets of items from the First Age. Incredibly rare in the age of sorrows. Sometimes called "Magitech" by those in past ages. Often this proficiency is combined with others to make truly wondrous items.
  • Gardening - The tending to plants and their artistic arrangement.
  • Geomancy - Knowledge of how to construct manses on geomantically active demenses. Requires Architecture to learn.
  • Glassworks - Any items related to glass or fine crystal.
  • Jeweller - Creating fine jewelry or preparing stones (precious or mundane) for industrial/sorcerous use.
  • Leatherworking - Anything involving leather; making it from animals to fashioning it into fully furnished products.
  • Masonry - The art of working with stones or similar materials. From stone weapons, statues, or constructing buildings.
  • Mechanical - Knowledge of how to construct mechanical devices with multiple moving parts such as print presses, mills, or advanced clockworks. In Autochthonian or Modern/Sci-fi games this is also used for large industrial machinery.
  • Shipwright - Knowledge of how to construct seafaring ships.
  • Textiles - The weaving of various kinds of fabric to produce clothing, ship sails, upholstery, and other goods.
  • Woodworking - Anything related to the manipulation of wood such as building furniture, carving statues, or constructing buildings.
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First Age artifice is for stuff that would be setting breaking in the Age of Sorrows IIRC.

Modern Crafting Proficiencies:
  • Chemical (Organic/Inorganic) - Detailed knowledge of both organic or inorganic chemistry. This replaces Alchemy.
  • Cybernetics - How to build and design advanced electronic machinery from starships, robots, to cybernetic augmentations. This proficiency requires Electronics.
  • Electronics - How to design devices that involve electronic circuitry, including basic programming. This proficiency is for Modern/Sci-fi games only.
  • Energy - Knowledge of how to build and maintain various forms of energy and their uses. Note that manse reactors can be maintained with geomancy.
  • Starships - Knowledge of how to create and maintain interstellar vessels.
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Project Types:
  • Simple Project: Anything smaller than a man or whose complexity wouldn't take more than a day's worth of work. This can be preparing most types of food, simple furniture, makeshift weapons, or other such details.
  • Complex Project: Anything larger than a man or whose complexity would take more than a day's worth of work. This can range from military weapons (Both for show and use), furniture fit for an Emperor, or a lavish palace.
  • Artifact: Any type of artifact whom the chosen or other supernatural creators may wield.
  • Manse: A magical building capable of producing Hearthstones and a wide variety of powerful magical features.
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Artifacts require Magical Materials and if the artifact is 3 dots or more, at least one wondrous ingredient. Artifacts are in the 3e sense with homebrew evocations or using some tree in the book as a reference point. Artifact creation requires a charm and possibly a tutor, and first age artifice also essentially needs a tutor/charm and acquisition of the artifact charm.

Artifact Example Scenario
Example: Cynis Talasan wants to craft a Green Jade Daiklave with themes based on beauty and poison, so the player decides upon Spring Razor. Knowing these themes, the Storyteller says the required Magical Material is Green Jade, and would need Wondrous Ingredients that represented both poison and beauty (or both). For the themes of poison, the character makes a deal with their House family to gain access to the fangs of the terrible wood dragon Vasshir, a trophy from their Shogunate ancestors in the ages past. For beauty, Talasan secures the heart of a courtesan whose charms and seduction forced two Dragonblooded brothers to fight to the death. Vasshir's Fangs and the blood of a renowned courtesan are suitable wondrous ingredients for the project.

With the ingredients secured, the Storyteller asks the player on how they want to proceed. Since the player has a proficiency in gardening, the player says they will be growing the daiklave. The first obstacle involved would be planting the materials, so Talasan plants all the materials in his mansion estate with the best quality soil he can find. The next obstacle roll would be for caring for and maintaining the plant to keep it free of bugs and other pests. The last roll could be to protect the tree against the survivor of the two Dragonblooded who fought to the death, wanting to scour the earth for any remaining traces of the harlot who bewitched his sworn brother. Once all these obstacles are complete, the Storyteller says that the Spring Razor blossoms from a plant infused with green jade and gorgeous flowers.
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Example Textile Charm:

Textiles

Filigree to Steel Weaving

Cost: 5m 1WP; Mins: Craft 4 Essence 1; Type: Supplemental
Keywords: None
Duration: Instant
Prerequisite charms: Object-Strengthening Touch, a proficiency in textiles

Mere cloth turns aside blades like steel with the Exalt's hands. This charm supplements a crafting project to make a set of clothing. If successful the clothing gains the traits of light armour. Spotting this magical alteration is a difficulty 5 Perception + Awareness roll. If the Exalt creates a set of bulky clothing that would have a mobility issue, then such a thing could be counted as medium armour instead. Cloth produced by this charm could count as a magical ingredient.

Solar: Cloth made by the Solars almost always appears pristine. "Accidently" spilled wine just slides off. Any penalty of -3 that would result from dirty clothing is reduced to 0.

Lunar: A Lunar can weave two sets of clothes into one. The Lunar may design a second uniform the clothing is capable of shifting into. This only requires a moment of concentration and takes one action to finish shifting. The two sets of clothing can be anything, but they must both fit the same size individual.

Sidereal: Clothing the Sidereal crafts with this charm can be used with martial arts, even if the style normally bands armour, so long as the clothing has a mobility penalty of 0. Clothing is also very light and easy to move in.

Dragonblooded: Minimums are Craft 4 Essence 2. Gain the Balanced and Wood keywords. By holding a handful of cotton seeds and spending a moment to infuse them with essence, the Dragonblooded may plant the cotton seeds. These cotton plants will grow over time into natural fully woven cloth as if made by the parent charm. Depending on the gardening techniques used, different patterns can be made. This version of the charm takes longer, but results in dramatically more cloth. The Dragonblooded/their staff may use Gardening in place of Textiles when making the cloth.
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fictionfan said:
I feel like we are saying the same thing, but you are acting like you are arguing with me.
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I'm asserting that outside of player action time we can make a list of reasonable crown questions which molly could reasonably find answers too with relative ease. Then you know we get said answers. I mean even if the internet is too separated using the internet to find a location that isn't is well easy. We should probably have way more info than we do about the supernatural with the resources we have but molly seems always uninformed. I dont expect to know everything but writing down a hundred some questions we think are feasibly askable in the background seems a worthy goal. Like we could ask overarching questions about fae nature just by finding some fae and using them as focuses. Chicago alone apparently has like a 100,000 wyld fae or something. We could use a video about tupac to figure out he really died. We can use election info to discover whats rigged and whats not. We can use a video about a lost treasure or the video to find a museum that talks about it use our travel charms go to said museum and then ask a question about where said treasure is. We can use police records to discover whose dirty and whose not. Fuck we can look at the hundreds no thousands of unsolved cases and use the focus on them to discover what really happened. Heck we can discover whose in jail for crimes they didn't commit.
 
Oh fuck we could outsource questions to harry and dad of things that have gone unsolved in their life. Like sure some questions will take a while to find the focuses and questions answered can always lead to more questions. But, harrys a friend it'd be nice to help him with his many many questions and dads probably got a few.
 
firefrog600 said:
Oh fuck we could outsource questions to harry and dad of things that have gone unsolved in their life. Like sure some questions will take a while to find the focuses and questions answered can always lead to more questions. But, harrys a friend it'd be nice to help him with his many many questions and dads probably got a few.
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Speaking of which, we haven't yet informed Harry or taken any action about our list of traitors within the White Council, no?
 
fictionfan said:
For this conversation it likely doesn't even matter if we anima flare it's unlikely she can even see us. It's already super impressive that she has managed to find a way to project her voice like this.
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Given that she asked if you can hear her like someone on the other side of a telephone she at least wants you to think she cannot see you, Molly can roll perception+Empathy to figure out if that is the truth, but right now the vote includes 'just break the connection, do not talk' si I did not want to rush into Mote use for Social Combat.
 
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