Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)

[X] A deal's a deal, even with a monster, let him eat
-[X] While he's eating, target any vampires that are trying to get at civilians; if they're running away, instead focus on getting the civilians to safety.
 
Charisma+Empathy Base DC 6)
If we are wet and include a stunt with our kingdom somehow the DC for this is so low as to be auto success.

@DragonParadox I kind of feel like now that we are a ruler of more then 5 billion people Broken Seeker should count as a lesser Creature of Darkness as compared to us.
That's you need. One cut, diagonal 53.33 degree angle, shoulder to pelvis and the vampire is in two pieces

We should not just ask for the head. She is already nicely in two pieces.

[X] Shout at him that you are supposed to split the loot, he'll probably get a kick out of that (Charisma+Empathy Base DC 6)
-[x][Stunt] Let's flip a coin you get what it lands on "Heads or tails?"
 
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DragonParadox I kind of feel like now that we are a ruler of more then 5 billion people Broken Seeker should count as a lesser Creature of Darkness as compared to us.
I don't think CoD rules are based on who would win a popularity contest :p

How does the voting work for this quest?
If we have
"A" 10 votes
"B" 8 Votes
"B with Subpoint" 4 votes
Which one wins?
 
I don't think CoD rules are based on who would win a popularity contest :p

How does the voting work for this quest?
If we have
"A" 10 votes
"B" 8 Votes
"B with Subpoint" 4 votes
Which one wins?
I feel like asking for the head should have been written as a stunt because we honestly don't care which part we get we just want something that we will be able to use with the crafting charm.

Also considering that we seem to be deciding on being buddy buddy with Broken Seeker are there any other hunts we want to go on with him? We could even invite Maeve.
 
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Probably should be using Murder Is Meat on the vampire since it might stop BS from getting a power boost.
 
This is a really dumb time and place to pick a fight.

Broken Seeker is an old monster famous for betrayal that knows he pissed us off. Moreover, his misread of Molly's social cues has left him convinced she has a literal fetish for backstabbing.

There is no way he spent months playing games on his hunt for Dresden and then put himself in a tube with us far away from anyone he knows we care about without a plan of some kind. Even one as simple as his 13 minions set up to eat an orphanage if he doesn't make it home before dinner.

We're also still surrounded by enemies, and elder vamps should never be discounted. Immediately turning to infighting at the earliest technical opportunity is a cartoon villain level tactical and strategic failure.

And yes, the rep stuff is still in play. It's unjust, unfair, and stupid, but the supernatural world doesn't care about our opinions on fairness.Yet.

This shouldn't be a surprise, it works the same way with regular old humans. Go to a bank you owe money with a laundry list of understandable, but not legally relevant, reasons why you're late on your payments and see what it gets you.

Raging against the machine by shooting yourself in the foot spites no one but you.

We can kill this guy later.

[X] Shout at him that you are supposed to split the loot, he'll probably get a kick out of that (Charisma+Empathy Base DC 6)

[X] A deal's a deal, even with a monster, let him eat
We are at half essence, have taken damage, are surrounded by enemies and hostages, and in a flying plane fighting a shapeshifter who can fly away at any moment. I fail to see how picking a fight with our ally while all of this is going down could conceivably harm us or our interests. :p
 
This has as much validity as robbing a man thirty seconds after paying him for work done and claiming that you have upheld the letter and spirit of your contract.
Eh I mean he's right on the technicalities I completely agree with them there. So the fae at least would go we totally did what we promised. I still think it's not great for reputation and having fae agree with you on the validity is not a good sign. Also is a stupid fucking plan when surrounded, damaged, half full, hostages exist, and the enemy can fly away at any point and we can do jack shit to stop it.
 
I think trusting the guy known for betrayal to not, turn right around and go for Molly, right after he gets a major power boost is the dumb idea. People do get their is nothing stopping him from taking the power an just attacking us. It certainly what he is planning, he has managed to isolate Molly get her to spend energy, for the cause of powering BS up, their will never be a better opportunity for BS to try and take Molly's power.
 
Is there really any different between them doing that because he doesn't come home and as part of their usual activities?

If we let Broken Seeker go he is likely to kill a few orphanages worth of people before we see him again.
Ehhhh I get the feeling beings like them sometimes can sleep for several years at a time . If not decades. Given he definitely could.
 
Bruh the hostages will die then and it doesn't change the fact of all the other shit I listed.
I mean he would have to take extra actions to get at them and unlike the vamp they can't recharge blood points for him mid fight. So it would be a case of him taking a bigger chance of dying just for spite.
 
I think trusting the guy known for betrayal to not, turn right around and go for Molly, right after he gets a major power boost is the dumb idea. People do get their is nothing stopping him from taking the power an just attacking us. It certainly what he is planning, he has managed to isolate Molly get her to spend energy, for the cause of powering BS up, their will never be a better opportunity for BS to try and take Molly's power.
Major power boost is relative. Ortega ultimately wasn't that outstanding as far as red sorcerers go. Dangerous sure, but this wasn't Broken Seeker's secret key to unlimited power.

He's operating on as much if not more uncertainty than we are, it's unlikely he'll pick a fight he isn't sure he'll win. You don't get old in his business by being stupid, and bets like this aren't good for your health.

If he tries to strike first then we'll have to deal with it, but ultimately guaranteeing that fight happens right here and now isn't helpful for us.
I mean he would have to take extra actions to get at them and unlike the vamp they can't recharge blood points for him mid fight. So it would be a case of him taking a bigger chance of dying just for spite.
He's a demigod of torture and sadism, I wouldn't completely bet against that.

You're also ignoring any prep work BS has already done. He didn't have a lot of time, but he had enough and he already has our number on this.

This guy willingly entered an airliner he knew was masked from detection and far from the mortal world with an infernal exalt who wants him dead. One who would have taken a shot at it if it wasn't for his threats to the surrounding mortals and her friends.

Why would you assume he'd trust us enough to even show up without insurance?
 
This guy willingly entered an airliner he knew was masked from detection and far from the mortal world with an infernal exalt who wants him dead. One who would have taken a shot at it if it wasn't for his threats to the surrounding mortals and her friends.

Why would you assume he'd trust us enough to even show up without insurance?
Exalted level social rolls. They can be a hell of a drug. Also this is an amazing opportunity for him. Don't think he gets to eat god blood often.
 
Exalted level social rolls. They can be a hell of a drug. Also this is an amazing opportunity for him. Don't think he gets to eat god blood often.
He's potentially getting a taste of a taste given to a childe of the elders hoarding all the real power for themselves. It's probably pretty nice, but not risk your life and soul nice. Exalted socials are a hell of a drug, but if this guy folded that hard to super social dice he'd live in some fey's basement right now.

Not that he can't be social'd into bad ideas, just that getting an old monster to abandon the paranoia of ages isn't something that should come out as a side effect of one conversation.

Especially when the undertones of that discussion had heavy "I'd like to stab you" undertones.
 
I think your not understanding how important getting the god blood is to him, it would allow him to expand his portfolio, into new areas, godhood not bound to his broken oaths. Potential even expanding the area of what counts has his home turf to anywhere the reds have ever brought terror across the world.
 
If we Murder Is Meat Ortega, does her flesh lose its 'potency' as far as BS feasting on it is concerned?
We only promised to help him kill her, not serve him a meal. So we'd be completely within the bounds of our agreement if we stole the kill from under his nose and 'ate' it ourselves. Though it does increase the chances of the entire thing devolving into a fight, to be fair.
 
I think your not understanding how important getting the god blood is to him, it would allow him to expand his portfolio, into new areas, godhood not bound to his broken oaths. Potential even expanding the area of what counts has his home turf to anywhere the reds have ever brought terror across the world.
Based on what? We don't have any clear information on the mechanics involved here.

A second hand taste of blood from an entity he hasn't claimed control of is a tenuous link to work with, even if he could do what you're suggesting.
 
Unless Seeker pulls Correspondence 5 + spirit 5 effect out of his ass, godblood is nothing more than more potent/tasty meal for him
 
If we Murder Is Meat Ortega, does her flesh lose its 'potency' as far as BS feasting on it is concerned?
We only promised to help him kill her, not serve him a meal. So we'd be completely within the bounds of our agreement if we stole the kill from under his nose and 'ate' it ourselves. Though it does increase the chances of the entire thing devolving into a fight, to be fair.
I think it comes down to priorities. I'd like to deny him power, but this isn't a good place to pick a fight.

Using the meal to leverage him into "giving" us the survivors and bodies would be a convenient way to get them out alive. Which sounds more worthwhile than the essence we'd get from the meal.

Unless the god blood does something special for us if we eat it with MiM I don't see it as worth the fight.
 
[X] Murder is Meat the duchess, and let Broken Seeker try to betray US, instead of the other way around.

[x] You are still pretty fresh, screw deals, you could kill more than one old monster today


Letting the monster get a power up before we fight is a no. Trying to split the difference with the middle of the road option is bad too.
Letting him eat god blood was never part of our deal.

Best case would be Murder is Meat denies him whatever he needs, and then he can nominally betray us first, but either way we should act.
There was never really a future where we don't end up fighting. He is too much a thing of broken oaths, and I hope we are too moral a person to let such a monster go. Not when every day he is free is people murdered.

All our buffs are up. Murder is meat will give us more essence, we are ready to fight.
 
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