It is not instant and thus would be very hard to justify. Also you need some way for her coma to kill her if you want the turn of the wheel to fix it. I guess letting her dehydrate to death would do it, but that... would be even harder to justify.
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It is not instant and thus would be very hard to justify. Also you need some way for her coma to kill her if you want the turn of the wheel to fix it. I guess letting her dehydrate to death would do it, but that... would be even harder to justify.
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Ok you guys have to be tieing on purpose now. I have flipped multiple times to break a tie and whenever I do the vote immediately evens up again. Do you just not like updates?
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It's a long shot, but would engineering a situation where her coma takes her through the wheel resort her to at her mental age instead of her physical one?
The wheel can change your age, and it's (very very loosely) arguable that disjunction between body and soul would also be damage caused by the coma that it's resorting her from.
Pretty sure she was shot as a relatively young kid and Dresden estimated that she was a late teen when he saw her the first time. Missing a decade, especially a decade at that point in your life would be a significant issue. From her perspective it'd be something like going to bed 7-8 and waking up 17-18.
How do you even deal with that using mundane resources?
No, that is not a mechanism the Wheel has. You could de-age her with sufficiently powerful alchemy though as well as exalted crafting.
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It's possible that we might cure her just by balancing her chi using some tea.
No, way beyond what the tea can do.
Lol.
That would at best count as a +1 Awareness/Alertness item.
The juice isnt worth the squeeze basically.
Better to learn a charm or train an ability or forge a fetish or make an artifact you carry around than to go through the RnD and all the bullshit to make a bespoke cyberimplant for an Exalt.
Even SGI versions are looking at maybe a week max before they are dissolved and re-instantiated so Molly Prime gets their memories. So unless they keep implants through different lifecycles?
Its not worth the trouble.
Fair.
But that counts for a lot of other people, from Fae royalty to Senior Council-tier wizards. And most of them dont have shaping defenses either that we are aware of.
Maeve and the Leanansidhe surely didnt, and they were only successfully hit once in several hundred years.
No, I dont agree.
The QM is going to escalate as we get stronger, but we still have reliable baselines for what happens in the setting.
This is a reminder that if that shit existed already, the setting would look very different than it currently does.
Im not talking Yog's stop gap.
An antimagic talisman made with Enchantment 3, which Molly can either buy in the Brass Courts or make herself by emulating the product with Exalted Crafting, will subtract (successes rolled on its manufacture)dice from a magic attack that hits her.
Made with BSM and CCC active and a Craft dice pool of 18 without assistants, its the sort of bullshit that would subtract 15+ dice from a hostile's attack pool.
BEFORE they would get a crack at the Exalt's reflexive countermagic.
I dont really see how that would work out.
There are cyber implants for healing. There are alchemical healing potions and Fortune Path blessings that you can layer on the procedure. There are spirits to summon and bargain with. Healing/reviving a comatose person when you arent under time pressure shouldnt be an issue for our infernal medical care establishment.
The real issue here is that the girl was shot 3 years before Storm Front, and its been at least 6 years since.
According to Dresden in Death Masks, Amanda Beckitt looked to be late teens or early twenties physically in the hospital/care home he saw her, but her last memories are going to be that of a pre-teen.
The timeline puts her age when she was shot at 10-11.
Unless Brass Court medical care is good enough to literally turn back her physical age, which brings its own set of problems, she's going to be missing a decade plus of time.
And it doesnt change that her mother is a decade plus older, or that her father is dead.
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You would need alchemy that can heal Agg, since her coma is based on actual physical damage that is what you have to deal with. mechanically As for potions good enough to de-age someone those do not exist, Molly would have to make them herself.
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No more than having another person with just is a plus 1. Doesn't matter if the person happens to be wearable. It's basically a reroll. Don't know why you are minimizing it.
Alchemy that can heal Agg. So probably Alchemy 4/5, probably, judging from the other Paths. Maybe even 3.
And we can probably get a Whampire to donate blood for that as a base reagent, since they heal Agg.
Or use some of Molly's, since she also heals Agg.
De-aging her? Thats likely to be harder.
Doable, but harder, and probably requires either Alchemy 5ish or Exalted Crafting.
Restoring her to her original age puts her somewhere between Leech and Cindy.
Cant do anything about the parent situation besides finding her mother new employment.
Im not minimizing.
Thats how these things worked in Exalted, and how they appear to work in a lot of M20, which appears to be carried on here.
In ExWoD, a 5 dot Demonic Guide thats in your head gives bonuses to your stats, not rerolls.
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Which is a terrible example considering that a Demonic guide lives in your head and is limited to using your senses. Well a wearable body cam could have infera red, libar and night vision. But most importantly is looking where we aren't.
You're making strong assertions about something we don't have data on. It's not like people bouncing off their defenses would be worth reporting in most cases.
For all we know they have something close but not perfect, or truly inhuman dice pools that we can't match without our shaping defense.
Leansidhe getting infected was a based on a trick, getting her to not use her defenses until it's too late isn't the same thing as not having them.
Our baseline includes regular use of various categories of strategic rituals, and even minor talents being able to use thaumaturgy to blow people's hearts up. Evocation based combat isn't the favored mode of fighting for most practitioners, which is why wardens are rare.
Being better at magic and throwing around that weld shit is why the smaller and short lived council is capable of fighting a war with the red court in the first place.
That's bullshit, and I don't mean in the exalted sense.
A 3 dot enchantment turning off all other modes of magic is ridiculous, and one character having a gimmick item in a single book that never shows up again shouldn't be justification for introducing one.
The king of the white court had to strike a major deal with outsiders to get his, which he wouldn't have needed to bother with if someone like Madrigal could do nearly the same thing with jewelry.
••• An amulet warding against sorcery. Three times a day it subtracts dice equal to the successes on the Enchantment roll from spells targeting the wearer. It must be kept in a special jewelry box carved from a single crystal when not worn, or it loses one success permanently per night until it stops working.
Difference between exalted dice pools, and DC reducers, and those without. Molly turning out a factory worth of talismans that cause -10 success on enemy magic, would be once in a lifetime achievement for everybody else, the kind of thing Mab grabs for her personal regalia. Not something a lowlife like the White King, could even hope to have.
We're not playing WoD, we're using WoD mechanics to simulate the Dresden Files and in that context Madrigal is the only person to show that sort of antimagic ability without an involved backstory behind them.
The white king was a two millennia old monster with control over the vampire politics of the western world. He wasn't Mab, but he wasn't a pleb either.
These amulets would be everywhere if this was viable in setting, even if they didn't have exalt dice pools behind them.
Carrying a fistful of such items is game breaking.
Warden Swords are Anti-magic and powerfully so. Antimagic is something the White Council hoards, and works to keep a monopoly on for obvious reason.
Who said they are easy to get Anastasia Luccio was the only member of the entire White Council that could make warden swords.
As for game mechanics GM has hinted strongly that only people with the Sphere Natural (6 pt. Merit)
Sphere Natural (6 pt. Merit)
For a single element of magick – the Sphere of your choice –you enjoy an innate proficiency. The powers of that Sphere come to you more easily than usual, and you advance faster in that field of knowledge than you do in other Spheres. System-wise, you pay 70% of the usual experience cost, rounded up, when advancing in that Sphere. Naturally, such advancement costs even less when you're raising your Affinity Sphere.
For a single element of magick – the Sphere of your choice –you enjoy an innate proficiency. The powers of that Sphere come to you more easily than usual, and you advance faster in that field of knowledge than you do in other Spheres. System-wise, you pay 70% of the usual experience cost, rounded up, when advancing in that Sphere. Naturally, such advancement costs even less when you're raising your Affinity Sphere.
It not easy to find people with both Wizard talent, and luck into them having one or more 6 dot merits, of just the right combination to make anti-magic stuff.
Just because we have access to 5 billion people, all of whom have some training in magic does not mean the rest of the world does.
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Mab froze Maeve with a touch, the only reasen she even got to try and save against that was Nemesis, otherwise it would have been game over without a roll.
I don't even know if countermagic applies there, since that's just an expression of Mab doing what she does.
We definitly want anti-shaping sooner or later if only to be not completly helpless against high-end conceptual powers that the Feyqueens, the Dragons and possibly a few other things have.
Mab froze Maeve with a touch, the only reasen she even got to try and save against that was Nemesis, otherwise it would have been game over without a roll.
I don't even know if countermagic applies there, since that's just an expression of Mab doing what she does.
We definitly want anti-shaping sooner or later if only to be not completly helpless against high-end conceptual powers that the Feyqueens, the Dragons and possibly a few other things have.
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Did you roll a bunch of 10s? Because it went from 22 to 25 and some people pulled back Forge Empress from 22 to 19.
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You actually were not correct when you made this post. I updated the Tally when you said it and Paranoia was winning by 1.
Well Ego-Infused Pattern Primacy doesn't just work as a defense it also lets us fast heal including agg damage.
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Maeve only getting to try due to Nemesis likely was because Mab was acting in her role as Ruler of Winter and as a Fae Maeve literally couldn't do anything against that.
Fae are limited like that.