Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)


Photo?

a man lowering a camera. He must have been filming the sunset or something.

Video, same thing really.

Also, if that guy was *filming the sunset* I have a bridge to sell, that feels like a setup.

Actually, protecting the masquerade is not our job, we did nothing criminal on camera and these kinds of things are usually considered fakes anyway when they go public.
We don't have to do anything about this.

[X] Move on

Problem: this reeks of being a set up, the masquerade doesn't even enter into account there, the most likely result is not in any way related to it, it's related to the bad of fanatics being fired up and us maybe being accused of attacking someone.

[X]Yog
 
So, the next month I think we should spend on Cauldron. We have a lot of things that are relatively urgent
Put them in contact with Murphy - if the situation is left to simmer, Murphy is almost bound to investigate herself
Handle the Ants of God (the fanatics, if I remember the name correctly) - they are real and clear danger
Improve their defenses (raise wards / forge gods) - see Ants of God situation
Deal with Olivia's godly ancestor - we did promise to help her get a handle on her magic by Christmas

And that's 4 out of 6 actions per month. Given that we'll want to visit our kingdom, and probably won't want to miss school, that's one more than we can afford, unless we either finish Last Station this month or put it on hold
 
So, the next month I think we should spend on Cauldron. We have a lot of things that are relatively urgent
Put them in contact with Murphy - if the situation is left to simmer, Murphy is almost bound to investigate herself
Handle the Ants of God (the fanatics, if I remember the name correctly) - they are real and clear danger
Improve their defenses (raise wards / forge gods) - see Ants of God situation
Deal with Olivia's godly ancestor - we did promise to help her get a handle on her magic by Christmas

And that's 4 out of 6 actions per month. Given that we'll want to visit our kingdom, and probably won't want to miss school, that's one more than we can afford, unless we either finish Last Station this month or put it on hold
I also think we should give the Order a bit more attention, but focusing fully 2/3rd of our AP next month on them seems excessive, IMO. I doubt in the only one who feels that way, given the other draws we have in our time.

2 AP of attention would still be quite a lot, and more palatable to vote on.
 
The big thing I want is that alchemy lab that half's the cost of the path to the 4th level, just 7-8XP. Then all that is left is 12 xp to get Alchemy 5. And then it philosophers stones, and Celerity potions for everyone.
 
[X] Have Liz get back inside and out of potential firing lines
[X]
Ask Thomas to go up there and persuade him to hand over the camera
-[X] Have him check if the man is a random witness or an accomplice. If he's a random witness, convince them they witnessed something mundane, like a movie being filmed. If he's an accomplice, detain him for questioning and signal you
[X] See if you can identify sniper's getaway vehicle
-[X] If it's identified and starts getting away, have Harry hex it / stop it.
[X] Restrain the sniper using MHM so we don't leave fingerprints
-[X] Have Clippy run facial recognition on him.
 
So, the next month I think we should spend on Cauldron. We have a lot of things that are relatively urgent
Put them in contact with Murphy - if the situation is left to simmer, Murphy is almost bound to investigate herself
Handle the Ants of God (the fanatics, if I remember the name correctly) - they are real and clear danger
Improve their defenses (raise wards / forge gods) - see Ants of God situation
Deal with Olivia's godly ancestor - we did promise to help her get a handle on her magic by Christmas

And that's 4 out of 6 actions per month. Given that we'll want to visit our kingdom, and probably won't want to miss school, that's one more than we can afford, unless we either finish Last Station this month or put it on hold
We should probably also deal with Helen's troubles.
 
We should probably also deal with Helen's troubles.
I also think we should give the Order a bit more attention, but focusing fully 2/3rd of our AP next month on them seems excessive, IMO.
We still never talked to Odin about what he knows regarding our power. We could be missing some important context that would change the way we operate simply because we haven't prioritized speaking with him. Not to mention we still owe him vehicles.
 
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... An unpopular decision, but... Delay kingdom by one more turn. Buy splintered gale incarnation. Get out of AP hell.
No, AP hell is eternal.
AP Hell is an external necessity of the Quest Format.

If there weren't always more things that we want or need to do than we can do, then the choice of actions becomes meaningless.
AP Hell, just like the research-backlog in those kind of quests, must be eternal.
 
No, AP hell is eternal.
AP Hell is an external necessity of the Quest Format.

If there weren't always more things that we want or need to do than we can do, then the choice of actions becomes meaningless.
AP Hell, just like the research-backlog in those kind of quests, must be eternal.
We clearly need to develop Hell of Eternal Crunchtime charmset.
 
I think i vaguely remember reading that shadow sorcery can be used to give your self temporary Arcane rating. Can someone check that for me.
 
... An unpopular decision, but... Delay kingdom by one more turn. Buy splintered gale incarnation. Get out of AP hell.

Nope, not only because of Artemis argument, but also because people had a problem with splintered gale anyway, so I don't think a plan with it is that likely to pass, may as well assure the kingdom, and discuss that charm later, when it isn't competing for the big chunk of XP we just kept in reserve just for our own hell.
 
I really don't want to involve her, though. Thomas, Harry and us are trained combatants. Maybe use MHM to tie him up? Right now, if the witness is a random witness and not an accomplice, she's not really connected to this.
MHM requires concentration, if we're holding him down we'll take action penalties to do anything else personally.

Liz is already involved, so I don't see value in trying to insulate her.

It's not like if the authorities do get involved they're going to be so gullible as to buy whatever line we sell forever, especially since she herself doesn't have super socials and will be talked to separately in such a case. The ant men clearly know her and likely want her dead, so it's not like tying up the dude gets her in any deeper from that end. The white council might force a soul gaze, but she hasn't used a lick of magic on anyone mortal tonight so she's fine there too.



this might well be something we can get Murphy to help with - if the sniper is a human, and there are fingerprints on his rifle ( @DragonParadox is the sniper wearing gloves?) that should be something SI could use to hold him.
We really don't want to bring her in at this point. Attempted murder investigations are big deals, especially when someone is hanging around pulling professional looking hits with sniper rifles in a major city.

Which means Liz gets pulled into a police department while being hunted, and in the Dresden Files that typically ends with the place getting knocked over. We also don't want them digging into her contacts while we're actively disappearing them, that would raise a lot of questions on its own.

We can't just toss a guy and a rifle at them and run away, if this goes anywhere it'll go straight into our business too.

Better to do this in house, and work out what to do with him afterwards.
So, the next month I think we should spend on Cauldron. We have a lot of things that are relatively urgent
Put them in contact with Murphy - if the situation is left to simmer, Murphy is almost bound to investigate herself
Handle the Ants of God (the fanatics, if I remember the name correctly) - they are real and clear danger
Improve their defenses (raise wards / forge gods) - see Ants of God situation
Deal with Olivia's godly ancestor - we did promise to help her get a handle on her magic by Christmas

And that's 4 out of 6 actions per month. Given that we'll want to visit our kingdom, and probably won't want to miss school, that's one more than we can afford, unless we either finish Last Station this month or put it on hold
We should put the Jade dogs in this too, they're severely under equipped and it's hurting them.

Frankly we're not Murphy's minder and her ability to help is limited, I don't see a need to hold her hand so hard while we're busy instead of focusing on our people.

I'm game for Olivia, but I still disagree with your plans for her. A godly ancestor is neat, but unbinding her black magic adjacent powers is a red herring. They just don't add much to her kit that she can't get more value for her time out of elsewhere.

With the exception of an expensive and literally mind altering training charm there is no world where she actually gets to matter in combat by Christmas. Bakemono are chumps unless you add their power to an existing build that it synergizes well with, and she's an otherwise average teenager, so even that is a bust.

The best and most reasonable thing to do is get her on a more mundane training plan, guns from the ghouls and potentially magic from us.
Since we're able to train Rosie I don't see why we can't help Olivia get control over her current powers too.


The system isn't set up to turn mortals into super soldiers on a dime and without significant personal cost we largely can't pay for her. Trying to force it is a mistake born of working on game time instead of the IC scale.
 
Better to do this in house, and work out what to do with him afterwards.
The issue is that we don't really have any other options than execution at this point.
Frankly we're not Murphy's minder and her ability to help is limited, I don't see a need to hold her hand so hard while we're busy instead of focusing on our people.
Ok, we can delay that, it's not super-urgent, and we gave the order her phone.
I'm game for Olivia, but I still disagree with your plans for her. A godly ancestor is neat, but unbinding her black magic adjacent powers is a red herring. They just don't add much to her kit that she can't get more value for her time out of elsewhere.
I hope that it won't be just unbinding, but rather an investiture. I doubt that her raksha ancestor can exalt her, but they might be able to boost her power.
 
MHM requires concentration, if we're holding him down we'll take action penalties to do anything else personally.
Oh, damn. That's not what I actually meant. I meant "without touching the sniper". Like, use MHM to control the rope / belt / zip-ties / whatever. Yeah, sorry, my bad.
Liz is already involved, so I don't see value in trying to insulate her.
Liz lives / works here. She's not a passerby. Assuming that the witness actually lives here, even if we get the camera, they are likely to talk to her later. I want to insulate her for that reason (actually, @DragonParadox are there any other witnesses? Like customers in the greasy spoon? ). Right now she can easily say that she doesn't know us at all, and the attack was aimed at us / Dresden if anyone is curious.

I am adding asking her for zipties - there should probably be some in her restaurant.

[X] Have Liz get back inside and out of potential firing lines
[X]
Ask Thomas to go up there and persuade him to hand over the camera
-[X] Have him check if the man is a random witness or an accomplice. If he's a random witness, convince them they witnessed something mundane, like a movie being filmed. If he's an accomplice, detain him for questioning and signal you
[X] See if you can identify sniper's getaway vehicle
-[X] If it's identified and starts getting away, have Harry hex it / stop it.
[X] Restrain the sniper
-[X] Use MHM to manipulate restraints so we don't leave fingerprints.
-[X] Ask Liz and Harry if they have any zip-ties, and if they don't, use sniper's own belt.
-[X] Have Clippy run facial recognition on him.


Can someone write a stunt? I am tripping over what to say to Thomas and/or Harry.
 
The issue is that we don't really have any other options than execution at this point.
We can splash him with life changing social dice and let him go if we want to, but I'm not too broken up about it if we kill him.

The priority here is protecting the victims, and getting the authorities involved actively impedes that because they'll force us to split our defense coverage another way and cover new attack surfaces.

This happens multiple times in the DF and ends the same way in almost every case.

The cops are completely ineffectual at everything other than moving team good guys out of position and then dying in a hopeless struggle to stop whoever follows their supernatural PoE in after them.

The whamps probably won't take the same approach as a red court hit squad, but they'd still abuse it in their own way.

I hope that it won't be just unbinding, but rather an investiture. I doubt that her raksha ancestor can exalt her, but they might be able to boost her power.
That's a blind shot in the dark at best, and actively bad for the quest.

Everyone and their uncle getting divine investitures or whatever to shortcut the system blows the power levels up and cuts out something sort of significant from the narrative level of dealing with this complication in general.


If we don't want to push the setting out of the game we need to let mortals be mortal to an extent.
Liz lives / works here. She's not a passerby. Assuming that the witness actually lives here, even if we get the camera, they are likely to talk to her later. I want to insulate her for that reason (actually, @DragonParadox are there any other witnesses? Like customers in the greasy spoon? ). Right now she can easily say that she doesn't know us at all, and the attack was aimed at us / Dresden if anyone is curious.

I am adding asking her for zipties - there should probably be some in her restaurant.
That's what I'm saying though, she has zero insulation already. If anyone has seen this or gives any sort of credible report she's already known to be associated with us, she was literally leaving the building while talking directly with the group.

Tying his hands makes no difference at this stage.
 
That's what I'm saying though, she has zero insulation already. If anyone has seen this or gives any sort of credible report she's already known to be associated with us, she was literally leaving the building while talking directly with the group.

Tying his hands makes no difference at this stage.
Right now she can play it off easily enough as Harry Dresden being an investigator that came to her to ask about something, with Thomas being his partner / client and Molly an intern. The sniper could have been there for Dresden / Thomas. Anything more than giving us zip ties connects her too much to us, I feel.
 
Right now she can play it off easily enough as Harry Dresden being an investigator that came to her to ask about something, with Thomas being his partner / client and Molly an intern. The sniper could have been there for Dresden / Thomas. Anything more than giving us zip ties connects her too much to us, I feel.
That's sort of ridiculous; the cops aren't going just nod along with that. If they look into this at all they aren't going to just take some statements and go home.

America has a gun problem, but not to the point where you can hunt each other from glorified urban deer blinds without someone taking apart the lives of everyone involved. Some kinds of gun crime can be brushed off that way, unfortunately, but not something this weird.

If they do open an investigation then it will almost certainly blow up our effort to defend the Ordo in the immediate future. To my eye that's the priority here; we just have to do the best we can morally and practically with the aftermath even if we don't like all aspects of it.
 
Which means Liz gets pulled into a police department while being hunted, and in the Dresden Files that typically ends with the place getting knocked over. We also don't want them digging into her contacts while we're actively disappearing them, that would raise a lot of questions on its own.

We can't just toss a guy and a rifle at them and run away, if this goes anywhere it'll go straight into our business too.
I mean Molly is at her most powerful in a jail cell. Maybe we would get lucky and broken seeker would take the chance to attack us while we are 'vulnerable'.
 
We can't just toss a guy and a rifle at them and run away, if this goes anywhere it'll go straight into our business too.

Better to do this in house, and work out what to do with him afterwards.
Much as I'm usually the guy who wants to leave Murphy out of things, we really can't justify it to her this time. Supernatural-on-supernatural violence is one thing, but not telling her about a mortal sniper trying to kill a mortal practitioner really will destroy our working relationship for good.

Edit: It puts Harry's working relationship with her in jeopardy as well.
 
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Much as I'm usually the guy who wants to leave Murphy out of things, we really can't justify it to her this time. Supernatural-on-supernatural violence is one thing, but not telling her about a mortal sniper trying to kill a mortal practitioner really will destroy our working relationship for good.
Involving the cops will only make our job more difficult. If Murphy even learns of this event we can explain this fact to her. The police are fucking useless against the supernatural in fact sometimes they are actively detrimental because they don't know of the danger. That mortal sniper is working with the Whampires who would have no issue at all breaking into a police station to kill someone with a mortal protection detail.
 
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