- Location
- USA
Depends on what you buy with them, I need a bit more to go on than just a blanket statement.
Strange Aeons: A 40k Xeno Governor Quest
- Thread starter Leon12431
- Start date
The Froggy Ninja
The Blade Will Never Die
An example was getting another infiltrator directed here for backup.
Nicholas Brooks
Redeemer and Destroyer
- Location
- United States
[X] Plan I Still Serve
-[X] Comprehensive Subterranean and Void Fortifications
--[X] Atraxas
--[X] Harkar
---[X] Araahal
--[X] Urma
--[X] Private Army
--[X] Private Army
--[X] Private Army
--[X] Private Army
-[X] Improve The PDF
--[X] Private Army
--[X] Private Army
--[X] 100 R
-[X] Create Diplomatic Corps
--[X] Akiona
-[X] Contact the Pathfinders
--[X] Atraxas
-[X] Establish Subsector Spies
--[X] Atraxas
--[X] Nalka
-[X] Militant Citadel
--[X] Atraxas
--[X] Urma
-[X] Dig into planetary education system
--[X] Balkavus
-[X] Redesign Osiris' frame
--[X] Atraxas
--[X] Use Favor for a relevant Archmagos to lend assistance
--[X] 10 R
-[X] The Calculation Heart
--[X] Atraxas
--[X] Exatari Alloys
-[X] The Calculation Heart
--[X] Atraxas
--[X] Exatari Alloys
-[X] Research Osiris
--[X] Atraxas
--[X] Nameria
--[X] 5 R
-[X] Heart Forge
--[X] Atraxas
--[X] Calculation Heart
--[X] 150 R
--[X] Use Exatari Alloys
-[X] Buy 15 more units of Bauxanium
Edit: This is also good
[X] Plan Nameria works a lot
-[X] Comprehensive Subterranean and Void Fortifications
--[X] Atraxas
--[X] Harkar
---[X] Araahal
--[X] Urma
--[X] Private Army
--[X] Private Army
--[X] Private Army
--[X] Private Army
-[X] Improve The PDF
--[X] Private Army
--[X] Private Army
--[X] 100 R
-[X] Create Diplomatic Corps
--[X] Akiona
-[X] Contact the Pathfinders
--[X] Atraxas
-[X] Establish Subsector Spies
--[X] Atraxas
--[X] Nalka
-[X] Militant Citadel
--[X] Atraxas
--[X] Urma
-[X] Dig into planetary education system
--[X] Balkavus
-[X] Redesign Osiris' frame
--[X] Atraxas
--[X] Use Favor for a relevant Archmagos to lend assistance
--[X] 10 R
-[X] The Calculation Heart
--[X] Atraxas
--[X] Exatari Alloys
-[X] The Calculation Heart
--[X] Atraxas
--[X] Exatari Alloys
-[X] Research Osiris
--[X] Atraxas
--[X] Nameria
--[X] 5 R
-[X] Heart Forge
--[X] Atraxas
--[X] Calculation Heart
--[X] 150 R
--[X] Use Exatari Alloys
-[X] Buy 15 more units of Bauxanium
Edit: This is also good
[X] Plan Nameria works a lot
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Getting a other infiltrator would be nice, but i think the GM said at somepoint that is was not something we could do, buy maybe that has change
The Froggy Ninja
The Blade Will Never Die
Uhhh. I'm counting more than three personal actions, which would make our wounds worse and stop us from regenerating. Also, I thought we were assigning our current Heart to Harkar to better finish the fortifications.
Here's the reference:
Yeah, figured, just using it as a metric of how serious serious investment is. Some more alloys and an LM Blueprint for Meta Shields would be nice, though not immediately necessary.
Nicholas Brooks
Redeemer and Destroyer
- Location
- United States
Not exactly, you see Osiris' body is a Learning action and researching him is Faith. I used 2 Personal Actions to make the last 2 supercomputers and 1 more (plus our existing supercomputer) to work on the Heart Forge. So that's 1 Learning, 1 Faith, and 3 Personal. Also, the Fortifications will be finished regardless since there's plenty of dice assigned to it that even below-average rolls should finish it off. @The Froggy Ninja
Nicholas Brooks
Redeemer and Destroyer
- Location
- United States
The Heart Forge costs 50
Nicholas Brooks
Redeemer and Destroyer
- Location
- United States
It's a locked action, so we can't change that. Also, I think even if the Pathfinders did want to see us, it would cost an action anyway, much like Cadia
The info post has them with a bonus of +10 and one action per 2 bonus but in the planning vote the old values are still there.
For those making plans of their own A turn vote with only the locked in actions filled in:
Listing the source of each Atraxas action makes the tally pick it up(as it removes duplicate lines) and makes easier to see if you used the correct number of actions
Will post my plan soon
[] Plan Template
-[]Martial
--[] Comprehensive Subterranean and Void Fortifications
---[] Atraxas Martial
---[] Harkar
----[] Araahal
---[] Urma
---[] Private Army x5
-[] Diplomacy
--[] Create Diplomatic Corps DC: 55
---[] Akiona
--[] Contact the Pathfinders (Auto completed due to Ultramarine force arriving in Turn 6
---[] Atraxas Diplomacy
-[] Intigue
--[] Establish Subsector Spies DC: 148 (Result: gain direct access to the subsector plans. Have access to all the diplomatically important events)
---[] Atraxas Intigue
---[] Nalka
-[] Intigue
--[] Stewardship Citade lDC: 75 (Result: -10 suspicion, reduces suspicion of all actions by 5 as long as it exists)
---[] Atraxas Stewardship
---[] Urma
-[] Learning
--[] Dig into planetary education system DC: 14 (Result: Learn what if anything is broken in the eduction sector and how to correct it, unlocks actions to correct/improve the education system on Shogi)
---[] Balkavus
--[]
---[] Atraxas Learning
-[] Faith
--[]
---[] Atraxas Faith
-[] Personal
--[]
---[] Atraxas 1st
-[] Personal
--[]
---[] Atraxas 2nd
-[] Personal
--[]
---[] Atraxas 3th
All 5 army actions are locked into the void fortifications so the PDF cant be started this turn
Nameria is also locked in on the void fortifications
Redesign Osiris' frame requires two actions:
(Suspicion: -40) (Resource Cost: 10) (DC: 50) (Special: Requires 2 actions, does not gain extra dice)
(Effect: Osiris is much happier, has a slightly better view of Atraxas, is less likely to spill the secret, is more willing to be seen and act)
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- Location
- USA
It does not require 2 Atraxas actions, that part can be done by anyone technologically competent.
The private army can in fact be shifted around due to its nature as a non singular force.
Nameria can take extra actions at a cost to her bonus.
[X] Plan I Still Serve
How much Favor is required to get an Archmagos to perform an action?
The Vehicles (Resources: 5. Upkeep: 1 Military Services. DC: 25) are probably the best bet for that as those allow them to move around better.
Use Favor for a relevant Archmagos to lend assistance
How much Favor is required to get an Archmagos to perform an action?
As we are spending and earning resources in their hundreds buying these cheap ones for admech favor to see if having them increase the army bonus might be worth it
The Vehicles (Resources: 5. Upkeep: 1 Military Services. DC: 25) are probably the best bet for that as those allow them to move around better.
Us learning more about Grav has dropped the upkeep here from 25 to 10.
- Location
- USA
10 Favor
- Location
- USA
You would need to build them a notable base for that.
Robinton
Probably petting Schrödinger's cat
- Location
- Scientifically proving a miracle
Atraxas protecting the Star? I don't see the direct reference, but I'm not surprised and good to know.
@Leon12431, I'm assuming that System Overhaul needs to be done before any given Megaproject to gain benefits, but I'm curious about the rest of these. That is, if we don't finish Shadows and Medical Care and Divinity until after Megaproject 1, are we inherently losing some of the possible maximum bonus?
@Leon12431 Are there any actions that Created Assistants could take that would bypass this automatic suspicion cost? Something offworld? Something in a private lab (not yet constructed)? Something funded with Hidden Wealth?
Attention planners: If and when we can somehow get this, it will be incredibly valuable...
So next turn we contact them next turn and build them a base
Say even if we dont have a misson for things, but still learn new things that the Exatari will want, do we still gain favor?
Also if we get a Young Living Mausoleum, how would the humans react to that, and how strong is it and what benefits would it give us?
- Location
- USA
It's more that if you finish the Megaproject first it makes those harder to do since you have to patch holes that would otherwise have been done predicted and filled in prior.
Also system overhaul does not have to be done, its just a very good idea to do so.
If you built a hidden heart forge with hidden wealth that would in fact reduce the suspicion, but you would have to forge documents as well to fully negate it.
Focus on the second paragraph of what you quoted, that is what I was referencing Atraxas' reaction to the event. That is anomalous.
The Froggy Ninja
The Blade Will Never Die
@Leon12431, how much suspicion would using an Awakening Chamber to create a combat relevant number of Blanks in our private army be?
Also, are there any ways to increase sus-cap?
Also, are there any ways to increase sus-cap?
- Location
- USA
As long as you were careful and had taken reasonable precautions such as grabbing people from outside the sector or from other Subsectors, you could get away with little to no suspicion. Well unless you go hog wild and get like a 1000 blanks or something equally stupid. But you can easily do a bit of paperwork fuckery to hide around ten to twenty blanks per turn up to a max of around 200 per century before anyone starts getting overly suspicious.
As for sus cap, not really, at least directly. The best direction would be to work on cultural shifting, to make Shogi distinct from the greater imperium to make the local people less likely to ring the bell. Of course that would be pretty obvious so again not really something easily done.
Well if you built an Inquisition Base on Shogi that would be around +50 max suspicion, but you then have to deal with the Inquisition on your literal doorstep. Technically you could try to get the local Astartes chapters to agree to create a Chapter for Shogi which would do the same, but that would require a ton of favor trading.