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The Spark of Madness
Would being a bodyguard for the woman he loves ping the charm @DragonParadox ?
Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)
- Thread starter DragonParadox
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- Crossover Fantasy
To be accurate, if he were to spend all his time like an obsessive stalker while monofocused on trying to be as Usum as possible, it'll prolly actually trigger with this phrasing, but that is waaaaay waaaay more yuck than martial service or accounting or whatever.
I get that he has to be a vassal, but I don't see the need to decide any duty without asking him what he is willing to do.
- Location
- United States
a minion with no duties is not a minion
Pretty much, he has to serve, that is just how the charm works, it lets the accursed and damned do your will more effectively.
- Pronouns
- She/Her
[X] As a spy, there are a lot of things you would like to find out about the White Court, many of which they would rather keep a secret, assuming that role should be more than enough to satisfy the requirements of true and loyal service
I like this, it's basically the minimum while giving us access to yet more of the most important currency of the supernatural world: information. And it's also a good early warning system for if the White Court is going to try anything because of us recruiting their dregs in Undertown. Or because of our encounter at the car auction. Or… well, if they try anything, Thomas can let us know ahead of time.
Although, another thing we can ask, although it won't be as easily full-time as the spying, is seeing if he knows about a good legal way to turn our superhuman crafting abilities into cash. The White Court as a whole is probably pretty well connected into the market that sells superhumanly good works of craftsmanship, since it's the kind of expensive status symbol that only people connected to the supernatural world can really access. He might be able to find us a good broker.
But anyway, the reason that the spy option is good is that he doesn't really have to change much, since a spy is supposed to keep cover and pretend that they're not a spy, anyway. He just has to contact us when he finds out something that we would want to know, and then the rest of the time he's still technically actively serving by maintaining his cover. Relatively low burden while satisfying the requirements and still being a high-value minion for us. Best of all worlds, really.
I like this, it's basically the minimum while giving us access to yet more of the most important currency of the supernatural world: information. And it's also a good early warning system for if the White Court is going to try anything because of us recruiting their dregs in Undertown. Or because of our encounter at the car auction. Or… well, if they try anything, Thomas can let us know ahead of time.
Although, another thing we can ask, although it won't be as easily full-time as the spying, is seeing if he knows about a good legal way to turn our superhuman crafting abilities into cash. The White Court as a whole is probably pretty well connected into the market that sells superhumanly good works of craftsmanship, since it's the kind of expensive status symbol that only people connected to the supernatural world can really access. He might be able to find us a good broker.
But anyway, the reason that the spy option is good is that he doesn't really have to change much, since a spy is supposed to keep cover and pretend that they're not a spy, anyway. He just has to contact us when he finds out something that we would want to know, and then the rest of the time he's still technically actively serving by maintaining his cover. Relatively low burden while satisfying the requirements and still being a high-value minion for us. Best of all worlds, really.
My thought is having him beat spokesman or messenger.
Fits his strengths
Fits his strengths
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- Hive City Ares, Armageddon, Segmentum Solar
[X] write in: As a friend. You have made this offer to help him. We can discuss what he is willing to do for you later.
fictionfan
Please sir, may I have some Meows?
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- Tempe, AZ
[X] write in: As an bodyguard of sorts for Harry. Until Harry agrees to let us pay him back properly.
Let's kill two birds with one stone.
[X] As an financial agent, not that he has much experience in such matters, but 'not much' is still more than your none
Or this works as well. He was able to run a successful hair salon after all. We will find plenty of muscle in other places.
Let's kill two birds with one stone.
[X] As an financial agent, not that he has much experience in such matters, but 'not much' is still more than your none
Or this works as well. He was able to run a successful hair salon after all. We will find plenty of muscle in other places.
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[X] As an armsman of sorts, a martial adjunct. You have already seen how skilled Thomas could be against the Winter Court, he can cover this service as him doing favors to Harry
[X] As a spy, there are a lot of things you would like to find out about the White Court, many of which they would rather keep a secret, assuming that role should be more than enough to satisfy the requirements of true and loyal service
The White Court will gun for us when they hear that we are recruiting the dispossessed en mass. This might save us, and will definately save some of our new minions. Besides, He's already esentially doing this. Just alone instead of for a group. This way, he has back up.
The White Court will gun for us when they hear that we are recruiting the dispossessed en mass. This might save us, and will definately save some of our new minions. Besides, He's already esentially doing this. Just alone instead of for a group. This way, he has back up.
Something almost like this:
[X] As an aide of sorts, for Harry. Despite your new powers, Harry still mostly thinks of you as his friend's mostly helpless daughter. If Thomas can convince Harry that it's ok to get help from you, including monetary payments, and would be helpful to Harry on his own, that'd be great.
[X] As a researcher. If you are to truly help Thomas and his breathren, while probably coming in conflict with other white court vampires, you'll need to know much more of their condition than you do now. And there should be none who know more of the origins of white court, the true nature of their hunger, past attempts to affect it, than white court members themselves. He could look into such records for you.
JayTar
Idea briefcase
[X] As a spy, there are a lot of things you would like to find out about the White Court, many of which they would rather keep a secret, assuming that role should be more than enough to satisfy the requirements of true and loyal service
Spy seems interesting. We have already drawn the White Court's attention, and we likely will even more from dealing with under town.
Funny idea, but could we use "Deep cover spy" as an excuse to let anyone we want to live a normal life? As long as they are theoretically willing to do whatever we want when we call on them, and maybe occasionally send us reports it doesn't matter if they are a bank manager or a burger flipper. It's all in service of keeping their cover, and thus serving us. Because who knows when we might need someone right where they are. Getting reports on a broad cross-section of society has a value of it's own too. Our very own information network.
Spy seems interesting. We have already drawn the White Court's attention, and we likely will even more from dealing with under town.
Funny idea, but could we use "Deep cover spy" as an excuse to let anyone we want to live a normal life? As long as they are theoretically willing to do whatever we want when we call on them, and maybe occasionally send us reports it doesn't matter if they are a bank manager or a burger flipper. It's all in service of keeping their cover, and thus serving us. Because who knows when we might need someone right where they are. Getting reports on a broad cross-section of society has a value of it's own too. Our very own information network.
[X] As a researcher. If you are to truly help Thomas and his breathren, while probably coming in conflict with other white court vampires, you'll need to know much more of their condition than you do now. And there should be none who know more of the origins of white court, the true nature of their hunger, past attempts to affect it, than white court members themselves. He could look into such records for you.
Yog has a good idea here
Yog has a good idea here
The simplest way to "let them live their normal lives" would be to mandate church tithe (or some other regular donation). As long as they make monthly donations, they are following your will.
- Location
- United States
[X] As an armsman of sorts, a martial adjunct. You have already seen how skilled Thomas could be against the Winter Court, he can cover this service as him doing favors to Harry
[X] As an financial agent, not that he has much experience in such matters, but 'not much' is still more than your none
[X] As an financial agent, not that he has much experience in such matters, but 'not much' is still more than your none
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Researcher is valid, though it should be noted it would put him in a bit of risk, not as much as spy, but this klnd of deep lore is basically state secrets to the White Court
COMMENTARY
-Interesting. I didnt realize Molly could sense when MiS started working on someone.
-Poor Thomas is getting whipsawed.
-Interesting comment about changing a demon's nature. I wonder if VEE could do it.
Thats something else to add to the list of things we need to look into
Yeah. This will cause a fair bit of political upheaval inside the White Court when it gets out, as it will.
That particular clock starts ticking as soon as Molly descends into Undertown again.
I mean, if she uses MiS on any renegade Whites down there, it looks like she's putting together a force/faction of dispossessed and renegade Whamps and ghouls for some unknown reason, right here in Chicago.
It is going to come off as a potential threat, one that must be responded to one way or the other.
And that doesnt count whatever ambitious idiots in House Skavis or Malvora who decide that it sounds like a dandy idea to get control of Molly in order for her to use that power at their command. I say Skavis or Malvora because Im reasonably sure Lara is too smart to let House Raith risk it.
Which doesnt prevent a House Raith affiliate from trying, mind.
We are probably going to have to seek an advance meeting with Lara to attempt to spike any misunderstandings early.
Politics. Fun.
-Using him as a spy puts him at risk. OOC Dresden doesnt use him as a spy.
Its generally a bad idea to use a person as a spy against their family, especially when they have tangled loyalties.
And while he detests his father, he has complicated feelings about the rest of his family. He actually still loves his sisters, and them him. Lara kicked him out of the house to save face, but still gives him orders as head of the family, and twice has gone to significant lengths to try to save his life.
-We dont need a martial adjunct.
And frankly, there's no way to do that and remain lowkey.
-Which leaves financial.
He is a successful small business owner, which means he has at least a basic grasp of finance and how money works.
And importantly, he has financial connections, and knows who to talk to.
Outstanding rolls for the most part.
ALMOST everything.
The thing he'd want most, which would be bane immunity, would require VEE.
You dont hire bodyguards for an adult without their knowledge or assent.
Thats a degree of high handedness thats very similar to the points of friction between Molly and Charity, and Dresden is a 31 year old man, not a 17 year old teenager.
Furthermore, Dresden is a military commander for the White Council, while the White Court of vampires are in theory allied to the Red Court, even thouh they are noncombatants in the War.
Having Thomas as bodyguard instead of occasional covert ally causes both of them problems.
Note that he said:
Thomas Raith might be publicly the black sheep of the Raiths, but he's still publicly known as the White King's only living son.
His secret lover is Lara Raith's secretary. He's a significant political factor even as he tries to dodge politics.
There's a shitton of things he cannot do without consequences.
One of those is being the major domo and political agent for a new Power, especially one that looks to potentially be recruiting amongst disaffected Whites; its going to force a reaction from the White Court to the perceived loss of face.
Either the other Whampire Houses will react to the perceived weakness of House Raith by trying to overthrow them, or House Raith will be forced to act against him and potentially us to save face. Either option leads to blood in the streets.
fictionfan
Please sir, may I have some Meows?
- Location
- Tempe, AZ
Whatever job we assign him we should put a cyberdevil in his phone.
Its essentially the same as spy, just with a focus on magic, biology and history, instead of current politics.
And the White Court would probably treat it much the same way.