Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)

Not just that. As far as I can tell, so far they have only seen our flight, an aura of green flames full of eyes (which might be just a cosmetic effect, or might be inferred to give us some sort of sensory ability) and an ability to pull a sword of brass and hellfire out of our chest. That's all. No shintai. No Tool Transcending Constructs. Certainly no pulling knowledge out of ether.

They have also seen Viridian Legend Exoskeleton, Melee and Leadership Excellency and they have felt Demonic Primacy of Essence.
 
Not just that. As far as I can tell, so far they have only seen our flight, an aura of green flames full of eyes (which might be just a cosmetic effect, or might be inferred to give us some sort of sensory ability) and an ability to pull a sword of brass and hellfire out of our chest. That's all. No shintai. No Tool Transcending Constructs. Certainly no pulling knowledge out of ether.
Also the armor and they certainly felt our Demonic Primacy of Essence, even if they couldn't name it.

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They have also seen Viridian Legend Exoskeleton, Melee and Leadership Excellency and they have felt Demonic Primacy of Essence.
Excellencies don't apply special obviously magical effects to others, they "merely" make us good at things. So, as far as they can tell, we are a powerful demon, who probably has experience in fighting and leading others in a fight.

They essentially saw nothing except some combat from us. No exotic abilities.
 
Excellencies don't apply special obviously magical effects to others, they "merely" make us good at things. So, as far as they can tell, we are a powerful demon, who probably has experience in fighting and leading others in a fight.

They essentially saw nothing except some combat from us. No exotic abilities.

If someone sees you get 10 Successes they are going to take note of it though as a generally inhuman skill range
 
They might not realize that we need to spend power to get the inhuman levels of skill, rather than just having it all the time. In fact, since I don't think that they've seen us fight or anything without the Excellency, they probably just think that we're that good all the time. Which means they won't try to mote-tap us, which is the one true fear of all Exalts. Yeah, I can live with these guys running off to tell their superiors what they know about our capabilities. Heck, the one weakness they could possibly report, our still needing air to breathe, is going to be outdated as soon as we buy BSM, which we're probably getting at the end of this arc, before they even report.

Yes, little vampires, tell people all about the Dread Lady of Chicago and how scary and unstoppable she is, fighting with inhuman ability and shrugging off death curses like they're nothing. Tell them all about our terrifying glory. That'll be just perfect.

[X] Let the Vampires go
-[X] You are not going to betray your allies no matter how distasteful
 
Eh... there would be some question for a field execution depending on who they were and how often he did it. Some people have skills that are hard to replicate. 'I killed the last tech guy in the assault group because he looked at me funny' isn't something you want to say to your boss. Also in any hierarchical society there has to be some minimal assurance of personal safety for people who serve the role of warrior or they will, reasonably, fight back until one is assured. The elders are strong but they cannot be everywhere
Fair enough.
I was under the impression that his Interlude anout all of his slaves, including those of the Blood, applies here.
Not just that. As far as I can tell, so far they have only seen our flight, an aura of green flames full of eyes (which might be just a cosmetic effect, or might be inferred to give us some sort of sensory ability) and an ability to pull a sword of brass and hellfire out of our chest. That's all. No shintai. No Tool Transcending Constructs. Certainly no pulling knowledge out of ether.
They have also seen Viridian Legend Exoskeleton, Melee and Leadership Excellency and they have felt Demonic Primacy of Essence.
Flight. Magic sword. Magic armor. Cosmetic aura thing. Countermagic/resistance to death curse.
Those are the only tangibles that can be pinned down, and Demonic Primacy of Essencr hit all of them with enough impact that it probably wont be in dispute.

Superhuman skill is much harder to quantify depending on witnesses, especially given as this was a battle underwater at night, with the opposition actively throwing mind magic around and trying to degrade visibility by dropping smoke screens.

I mean, dont get me wrong. Flight in particular is a very big deal in the Dresdenverse for human-sized supernaturals. You can count on one hand the number of people who have done it onscreen, whether on their own or assisted by some mechanism or mount, and that number includes Rashid, McCoy, Mab and Odin. Maybe Winter Lady Molly.

Its a pretty reliable marker for heavy hitter.

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I missed this on first read:
As most of the vampires not wracked in agony from the grey one's tendrils continue to rip and tear through any part of it they can reach through the murk you see with distant eyes one of them, gaunt and ashen-skinned, hang back and open its mouth to... sing. You had expected some kind of bestial screech or at best a single high note fit to shatter glass. Instead it sounds more like a symphony of instruments not meant for human hands, tones that defy the ear and melodies that twist back on themselves in haunting echo.
This one is probably the Red blood sorcerer.
De Leon has some magical skill of his own, given his ability to recognize Fomor magic spells, but this was either a VtM Discipline or a vampire magic spell. Something along the lines of a refluffed Mists of Eventide.
 
Fair enough.
I was under the impression that his Interlude anout all of his slaves, including those of the Blood, applies here.

All in the Red Court who are not 'nobles' are slaves of one sort or another, but that does not mean all are equally disposable. The Mameluke were slaves after all. The system is twisted, but there is a system other than simply the whim of one's master, societies need rules to function at all.
 
All in the Red Court who are not 'nobles' are slaves of one sort or another, but that does not mean all are equally disposable. The Mameluke were slaves after all. The system is twisted, but there is a system other than simply the whim of one's master, societies need rules to function at all.
Perhaps.
I'd need to find the time to reread Storm Front and in particular Grave Peril to see how Bianca's court and retainers worked.
Because I recall a more neofeudal relationship there.
 
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Adhoc vote count started by DragonParadox on Nov 26, 2022 at 11:37 AM, finished with 65 posts and 24 votes.

  • [X] Let the Vampires go
    -[X] You are not going to betray your allies no matter how distasteful
    [X] Let the Vampires go
    -[X] You are not going to betray your allies no matter how distasteful
    -[X] Usum is right, you still have all that contact information
    -[X] Stunt: Covered in blood, and cluthing a sword of brass and hellfire, your back is straight and posture regal, as you speak, no, declare your decision and their fate: "Go now, and know, that on this night, I hold np grudge against you and yours and will remember your service here. When our paths cross again, as long as no innocent is suffering from your actions, I do not foresee myself pronouncing judgement upon you"
    [X] Insist that they help finish the fight (Charisma+Intimidation)
    -[X] Use intimidation excellency
    -[X] Stunt: As the vampire's words echo in the murky water, it begins to darken even as the eyes of Molly's aura seem to flare.
    —[X] For a moment, she seems less like a demon shrouded by fire than some unspeakable thing haloed by the glare of hostile stars.
    —[X] "parasite" She says in a voice of bitter sparks carried on biting wind. "Do you imagine that you can lightly break faith with me?"
    [X] Insist that they help finish the fight (Charisma+Intimidation) -[X] Use intimidation excellency -[X] Stunt: As the vampire's words echo in the murky water, it begins to darken even as the eyes of Molly's aura seem to flare. —[X] For a moment, she seems less like a demon shrouded by fire than some unspeakable thing haloed by the glare of hostile stars. —[X] "parasite" She says in a voice of bitter sparks carried on biting wind. "Do you imagine that you can lightly break faith with me?"
    [X] Let the Vampires go
    -[X] You are not going to betray your allies no matter how distasteful
    -[x]Stunt: "Feel free to leave." Smile and gesture to the ruins, "but I will take all the spoils. Don't think that you can just come and try and take them from me afterwards."
 
Arc 3 Post 26: That Subtle Poison
That Subtle Poison

25st of July 2006 A.D.

After the first moment's thought you dismiss the thought of killing them altogether, no matter how distasteful they had been your allies this day, but if they could be persuaded to keep fighting, to bring an end to evil worse than their own by their own admission. Not to mention Usum has a point I do still have that contact information.

Covered in a thin layer of blood and worse things starting to freeze over, clutching in one hand a sword of balefire you speak their fate, voice as clear through water as it would have been through empty air: "Go now, and know, that on this night, I hold no grudge against you and yours and will remember your service here. When our paths cross again, as long as no innocent is suffering from your actions, I do not foresee myself pronouncing judgement upon you."

As you speak the relief is palpable in every motion of bloodied claws, in every twitch of ragged ears and bright it is in eyes accursed. If I would but reach out my hand... The thought is a little scary in how reasonable it sounds in your own head.

Nope, nope, I'll handle it later. Evil fleshshapers now, potential vampire minions later.

Turning you descend to the base through the dead water, bodies and bits of bodies floating down all around you like some bizarre precipitation. And on today's weather it will be pouring guts with a light drizzle of semi-intact corpses, you think in one of those cheery weather girl voices, the sort that make you want to throw your coffee at the TV in the morning

Usum finds it utterly hilarious... you aren't sure how to take that.

"Dad, Lydia, are you there?" You ask into the radio, but all you get is static.

Heart racing in your chest as it had not done through the whole battle you dive into the broken dome after them. Passing through an U bend you come to an air lock that hisses with an impotent hydraulic voice, opening onto a scene of carnage. What the guardian had been in life you cannot say other than it must have been some misbegotten melange of eel and octopus by way of rusted cybernetic implants.

Some of the bodies are more human-like, and humanlike it all that you can call them, as though someone had made one of those storefront in mannequins flesh and blood rather than plastic.

"Molly! Over here!" you hear Lydia call from up ahead. Her head poops behind a corner in the sterile looking corridors. She had tried to wipe the blood off her face, but there is no saving that T-Shirt without magic.

"What happened, where's..."

Then dad comes round as well as you can finally breathe free. "We're alright Molly"

Their radios had shorted out when they had fought the eel-thing, it had spit lighting apparently, though it had been no more able to resist the Sword than any other monster. The creepy mouthiness, eyeless thralls had been some kind of flesh-crafted siren, making them utterly powerless against dad's will and faith and the last flash of Lydia's power.

"Nothing's ever getting in my head again."

You are not the least surprised to find its' their blood Lydia is wearing.

In the third chamber, a equipped with metal tables, with straps of course, and surgical tools arrayed in a procession from the banal to the horrific dad and Lydia had finally caught up with the mysterious doctor Niemi as he was about to cut and run. Now that he was dealing with a threat more dire than tricked senior citizens he did not last long in spite of the spells he tried to use. After that well...

Clean up is hell, not because it's hard but because of how pathetically easy it is. Absent both the Grey Thing and Niemi all the thralls seemed to just fail. Most of them went unresponsive, a few bashed their heads into walls or took other more creative means to end their lives. One particularly motivated frog man killed five human Pathfinders, the last ones here before biding off his engorged tongue. You find him drowning in his own blood unable to speak, but he seems to find some comfort in Lydia's company at the end.

That is not the worst of it, the worst comes in the form of carefully labeled shelves and filing cabinets filled with experimental data. Pathfinder Pharmaceuticals is more than just a cover to fun a retirement home, far more, though it has no interest in healing people. Even just a cursory look is enough to confirm that Rhys the Ragged, the thing you had killed, had been looking into alchemical processes to create shock troops out of humans.

"A better way to make thralls out of humans..." you explain. "Normally they need to target someone with the Gift, you know, magic."

"But everyone's a bit magic," Lydia cuts in. "There is no such thing as a human with no... oh."

"I do not think they were using the gossamer in the transformation, not directly." You shake one of the pill boxes, this one with a bright red label that reads 'X-treme Supps for an X-treme Bod', the pills are X shaped, they are also neon green and you think somewhat magical, if they had been made directly from the stuff of dreams and nightmares that would be more than faint. "They prototyped the substance with Gosamer to get just the right effect and then they worked backwards to figure out a less exotic way to mass produce it. I think the act of taking it of your own free will day in and day out, hoping that it will give you say the perfect body is part of what triggers the transformation."

"The transformation into what?" your father asks.

So you tell him, describing the headless marrow-drinking thralls, the frogmen, though you are not sure what kind of desire for physical transformation would do that. Though you are pretty sure that the Illusion-spinning living mannequins are the final result of a diet tea called 'SlimDream'

You had never seen your dad look more sick and horrified before, not even at the museum.

"They are using people who want to change something about their bodies..." Lydia trails off. "No, people who are desperate to change something about their bodies. It's kind of like what we heard the Pathfinders do only instead of a one on one self-improvement sell that turns cult-y you can just use advertising. Does the stuff work, before it turns you into a thrall I mean."

You give a grim nod putting the files down on the nearest table, thankfully free of blood. "There are still some kinks to iron out, partly with making the victim sick, giving them nightmares, but also with inducing just the right psychic mental sensitivity that the minor sorcerers can do their Pied Piper impression and sneak their new thralls out of sight once they mutate beyond the bounds of what can be seen in public."

Though you had not found anymore gossamer you did find the pods in which it would have been stored for prototyping... and from the looks of things the tanks are not very good, they would have started seriously leaking in a matter of tens of minutes, an hour at most, what is why the experimental facility had to be near the extraction point

What do you do?

[] Take the files and a sampling of the pills, destroy the rest

[] Try to strip as much equipment and arcane machinery as you can out of the base

[] Write in


OOC: So you know how World of Darkness has Pentex... that gave me ideas for moving the Dresdenverse fomori into the modern age. Yes they are thee dregs and monsters of a thousand mythologies, but that does not mean they cannot adapt for greater evil in the twenty-first century.
 
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Yeah, this is not a giant super-arc, but we had done some neat stuff, saved some people. Maybe we could get 30 if we could somehow chain-slam into another sidequest. :V
 
So, would the notes be enough to justify being able to buy alchemy dots?

Also, potential magical transition drugs (if I understood the implications right). I wonder how many successes we would need to be able to create an industrially scalable production method and to work out "turns one into a thrall" side effects. That's definitely an exalt worthy project.

[X] Try to strip as much equipment and arcane machinery as you can out of the base
-[X] Use Tool Transcending Constructs to increase the rate of packing and to make an amphibious trailer to pack it all in.
--[X] Use craft excellency
-[X] stunt: as you stare at the horrific assembly, part of you wants to burn it all down. To smash and cut and destroy until not even a memory remains. But... "The best revenge is living well" you mutter, "We are taking it all, and putting it to better use. Using this for good is the best we can do for its victims now". As you speak, your aura unfurls, robotic tools manifesting. Some of them start reshaping the surgical tables, cabinets and other easily replaced objects into a watertight amphibious trailer. Others assist your father and Lydia in preparing everything you can see for transport.

Something like this.

Edit: also possibly a start of "heal Red Court vampires victims" project
 
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So, would the notes be enough to justify being able to buy alchemy dots?

Also, potential magical transition drugs (if I understood the implications right). I wonder how many successes we would need to be able to create an industrially scalable production method and to work out "turns one into a thrall" side effects. That's definitely an exalt worthy project.

[X] Try to strip as much equipment and arcane machinery as you can out of the base
-[X] Use Tool Transcending Constructs to increase the rate of packing and to make an amphibious trailer to pack it all in.
--[X] Use craft excellency
-[X] stunt: as you stare at the horrific assembly, part of you wants to burn it all down. To smash and cut and destroy until not even a memory remains. But... "The best revenge is living well" you mutter, "We are taking it all, and putting it to better use. Using this for good is the best we can do for its victims now". As you speak, your aura unfurls, robotic tools manifesting. Some of them start reshaping the surgical tables, cabinets and other easily replaced objects into a watertight amphibious trailer. Others assist your father and Lydia in preparing everything you can see for transport.

Something like this.

Edit: also possibly a start of "heal Red Court vampires victims" project

You cannot learn apprentice alchemy from the stuff it is too advanced, but once you get to 3 dots, it would grand you a 50% discount on the XP you pay for the forth dot.
 
Considering Molly knows that Dresden has an imprint of Lasciel in his mind and she has the background to know just how damning that can potentially be, I wonder if we can use the Crown to get occult tips similar to the below on how best Harry can gird himself against her corruption
Harry had not finished his question by the time you return to your body and with the biggest grin you had all day you explain what you had been looking for and what you had seen, about the old wizard at the farm talking about the lines of power that and how the wizard can anchor his mind in their hum when they are familiar, then over that you say what you learned from the monks of how the power of faith flows in holy ground and light of God can lead one back for it is constant and unchanging. "It's all one thing see whether it is a wellspring or a river what matters is that it's clear and to be clear it has to be too big for you to see the whole of it or to see how it changes, the illusion of constancy." you finish triumphantly.

Of course, then we'd probably have to (needlessly) apply the knowledge in regards to Usum just to avoid hypocrisy.
 
My only concern about staying to strip everything of value is the time involved. Lingering here for longer than necessary is just asking for a Fomori strike team to portal in via the Nevernever. Or for the Reds to toss a bundle of explosives overboard as they leave and collapse the place with us in it.

[X] Take the files and a sampling of the pills, destroy the rest
 
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