No, it does not do anything about curses.
Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)
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No, it does not do anything about curses.
[X] Let the Vampires go
-[X] You are not going to betray your allies no matter how distasteful
-[X] Usum is right, you still have all that contact information
-[X] Stunt: Covered in blood, and cluthing a sword of brass and hellfire, your back is straight and posture regal, as you speak, no, declare your decision and their fate: "Go now, and know, that on this night, I hold np grudge against you and yours and will remember your service here. When our paths cross again, as long as no innocent is suffering from your actions, I do not foresee myself pronouncing judgement upon you"
-[X] You are not going to betray your allies no matter how distasteful
-[X] Usum is right, you still have all that contact information
-[X] Stunt: Covered in blood, and cluthing a sword of brass and hellfire, your back is straight and posture regal, as you speak, no, declare your decision and their fate: "Go now, and know, that on this night, I hold np grudge against you and yours and will remember your service here. When our paths cross again, as long as no innocent is suffering from your actions, I do not foresee myself pronouncing judgement upon you"
FriedIce
The Authentic Fake
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Honestly, having the information get out that we can no sell a death curse isn't inherently a bad thing.
It's impressive as all hell but it doesn't really give a good indication for our capabilities beyond 'scary'. It likely means the Red Court are less likely to pick fights with us, though they will be more prepared for any fights they do pick.
…they might also try to assassinate us, given our close ties with Dresden (and his well known hatred for their Court). But a reputation for being honourable is probably worth that risk.
It's impressive as all hell but it doesn't really give a good indication for our capabilities beyond 'scary'. It likely means the Red Court are less likely to pick fights with us, though they will be more prepared for any fights they do pick.
…they might also try to assassinate us, given our close ties with Dresden (and his well known hatred for their Court). But a reputation for being honourable is probably worth that risk.
Modus_Tollens
SCREAMING AT THE APOCALYPSE
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- ALSO SCREAMING.
[X] Let the Vampires go
-[X] You are not going to betray your allies no matter how distasteful
-[X] Usum is right, you still have all that contact information
-[X] Stunt: Covered in blood, and cluthing a sword of brass and hellfire, your back is straight and posture regal, as you speak, no, declare your decision and their fate: "Go now, and know, that on this night, I hold np grudge against you and yours and will remember your service here. When our paths cross again, as long as no innocent is suffering from your actions, I do not foresee myself pronouncing judgement upon you"
Yeah. We have to maintain realpolitik here. Many, possibly most, of the things we will end up interacting with will be ugly things in one respect or another. Monsters in the moment or in potentia, human or not, and we have the choice of burning down the world in a righteous crusade or letting things smolder and cause lasting but survivable harm. Ideally this goddamn war with the Reds would just fucking end.
It won't... but some simple understandings can exist with a party you are in war with. Even if you are ethically barren, even if your gut twists in hatred at the thought of the enemy, there can be understandings.
More men die by this war escalating by the slightest fraction than by these guys doing their thing until something comes along and kills them in a day or a century. Nor would I want to see what we would be if we start cutting gordian knots out of convenience or conviction. Its not a precedent we should want to set.
-[X] You are not going to betray your allies no matter how distasteful
-[X] Usum is right, you still have all that contact information
-[X] Stunt: Covered in blood, and cluthing a sword of brass and hellfire, your back is straight and posture regal, as you speak, no, declare your decision and their fate: "Go now, and know, that on this night, I hold np grudge against you and yours and will remember your service here. When our paths cross again, as long as no innocent is suffering from your actions, I do not foresee myself pronouncing judgement upon you"
Yeah. We have to maintain realpolitik here. Many, possibly most, of the things we will end up interacting with will be ugly things in one respect or another. Monsters in the moment or in potentia, human or not, and we have the choice of burning down the world in a righteous crusade or letting things smolder and cause lasting but survivable harm. Ideally this goddamn war with the Reds would just fucking end.
It won't... but some simple understandings can exist with a party you are in war with. Even if you are ethically barren, even if your gut twists in hatred at the thought of the enemy, there can be understandings.
More men die by this war escalating by the slightest fraction than by these guys doing their thing until something comes along and kills them in a day or a century. Nor would I want to see what we would be if we start cutting gordian knots out of convenience or conviction. Its not a precedent we should want to set.
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The field isn't clean yet. Even discounting how some of us want the red court reps to die here using them as fodder to soak up the remnants of the defenses still has practical value.
It'd hardly be betrayal to insist they finish chewing what they bit off rather than run to the hills and leaving us to finish it.
Especially since even the best case scenario has them running home to provide intelligence to a hostile faction.
[X] Insist that they help finish the fight (Charisma+Intimidation)
-[X] Use intimidation excellency
-[X] Stunt: As the vampire's words echo in the murky water, it begins to darken even as the eyes of Molly's aura seem to flare.
—[X] For a moment, she seems less like a demon shrouded by fire than some unspeakable thing haloed by the glare of hostile stars.
—[X] "parasite" She says in a voice of bitter sparks carried on biting wind. "Do you imagine that you can lightly break faith with me?"
It'd hardly be betrayal to insist they finish chewing what they bit off rather than run to the hills and leaving us to finish it.
Especially since even the best case scenario has them running home to provide intelligence to a hostile faction.
[X] Insist that they help finish the fight (Charisma+Intimidation)
-[X] Use intimidation excellency
-[X] Stunt: As the vampire's words echo in the murky water, it begins to darken even as the eyes of Molly's aura seem to flare.
—[X] For a moment, she seems less like a demon shrouded by fire than some unspeakable thing haloed by the glare of hostile stars.
—[X] "parasite" She says in a voice of bitter sparks carried on biting wind. "Do you imagine that you can lightly break faith with me?"
It also prevents people from trying. Because someone might luck into an "additive" curse. To which Exaltations are susceptible (see Great Curse).
Red Court reaction, though, would be interesting. I mean, they have reached Godzilla threshold and we are not even in our final form!
Betraying them would be killing them by surprise. They did agree to fight under our command, so by ruthless monster standards we have a claim to press to keep using them till we complete our objectives, they die, or they break and flee/attack us.
No it doesn't; it lets people know that standard stuff might have issue, so they should take the time to get clever if they need to come after us.
We can't keep it under wraps forever, but ideally we don't want people knowing/thinking that standard approaches aren't worth trying.
[X] Let the Vampires go
-[X] You are not going to betray your allies no matter how distasteful
-[X] You are not going to betray your allies no matter how distasteful
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[X] Insist that they help finish the fight (Charisma+Intimidation) -[X] Use intimidation excellency -[X] Stunt: As the vampire's words echo in the murky water, it begins to darken even as the eyes of Molly's aura seem to flare. —[X] For a moment, she seems less like a demon shrouded by fire than some unspeakable thing haloed by the glare of hostile stars. —[X] "parasite" She says in a voice of bitter sparks carried on biting wind. "Do you imagine that you can lightly break faith with me?"
[X] Let the Vampires go
-[X] You are not going to betray your allies no matter how distasteful
-[X] You are not going to betray your allies no matter how distasteful
Even if we let them go, that stunt seems a bit stilted to me. Not that it's bad, but it feels a bit like something even someone as dramatic as Molly has been would associate with a ren fair.
It also doesn't do a lot of scene setting, which could cost us a die.
[] Let the Vampires go
-[] You are not going to betray your allies no matter how distasteful
-[] Usum is right, you still have all that contact information
-[] Stunt: Covered in blood, and clutching a sword of brass and hellfire, something nameless and divine begins to burn in Molly's eyes.
—[] As the light of her anima stains the murky waters a poisonous green, Molly regards the vampire with the bearing of a queen in her own throne room.
—[] "Go, and know I will remember this"
It also doesn't do a lot of scene setting, which could cost us a die.
[] Let the Vampires go
-[] You are not going to betray your allies no matter how distasteful
-[] Usum is right, you still have all that contact information
-[] Stunt: Covered in blood, and clutching a sword of brass and hellfire, something nameless and divine begins to burn in Molly's eyes.
—[] As the light of her anima stains the murky waters a poisonous green, Molly regards the vampire with the bearing of a queen in her own throne room.
—[] "Go, and know I will remember this"
To be fair she has had a demon calling her Empress of Darkness in her head for the last month or so. The ren fair may not be so unreasonable.
[X] Yog
Modus_Tollens
SCREAMING AT THE APOCALYPSE
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- ALSO SCREAMING.
I'm kind of wondering if one of their number is going to be thrown under the bus and given the less than comfortable position of emissary, since we are willing to have polite if still very much not friendly relations with them. Its what I would do if I was their superior.
Particularly if I hated someone.
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Sorry abut that. I tried to lean into their expectations here. Which are:
1) We are a demon
2) We are working with a knight of the cross saving innocents
So, we are some sort of vengeance manifestation / judge of the damned.
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I also think it's... too much, I guess. It's better to be simple.
Be simple if you have to, but filing our reassurance that we like them in triplicate just doesn't sound natural to me.
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[X] Let the Vampires go
-[X] You are not going to betray your allies no matter how distasteful
-[x]Stunt: "Feel free to leave." Smile and gesture to the ruins, "but I will take all the spoils. Don't think that you can just come and try and take them from me afterwards."
-[X] You are not going to betray your allies no matter how distasteful
-[x]Stunt: "Feel free to leave." Smile and gesture to the ruins, "but I will take all the spoils. Don't think that you can just come and try and take them from me afterwards."
Worth noting that no vampires means no witnesses to what, if any, gossamer or other stuff we recover from the Fomor base.
And denying that level of intelligence has value all its own.
If we'd demanded a liaison, then there'd be an argument for leaving someone expendable behind. Now, not so much.
Especially if you have any contingency plans for retreating through the NeverNever, which is a scenario where you benefit from having as many combat troops as possible.
And remember, these are the Reds.
If De Leon really doesnt like one of his troops, he can justify a field execution and noone is likely to even ask any questions.
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And denying that level of intelligence has value all its own.
I rather doubt it.
If we'd demanded a liaison, then there'd be an argument for leaving someone expendable behind. Now, not so much.
Especially if you have any contingency plans for retreating through the NeverNever, which is a scenario where you benefit from having as many combat troops as possible.
And remember, these are the Reds.
If De Leon really doesnt like one of his troops, he can justify a field execution and noone is likely to even ask any questions.
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Eh... there would be some question for a field execution depending on who they were and how often he did it. Some people have skills that are hard to replicate. 'I killed the last tech guy in the assault group because he looked at me funny' isn't something you want to say to your boss. Also in any hierarchical society there has to be some minimal assurance of personal safety for people who serve the role of warrior or they will, reasonably, fight back until one is assured. The elders are strong but they cannot be everywhere
Not just that. As far as I can tell, so far they have only seen our flight, an aura of green flames full of eyes (which might be just a cosmetic effect, or might be inferred to give us some sort of sensory ability) and an ability to pull a sword of brass and hellfire out of our chest. That's all. No shintai. No Tool Transcending Constructs. Certainly no pulling knowledge out of ether.