Esquestria: The House of the Sun - A pony cultist experience

Voted best in category in the Users' Choice awards.
Dear reader! Whether you are new here, archive-reading and whatnot, or you are already someone who has been with us for quite a while, I would like to say a few words that I believe are best kept close to mind.

-This is an MLP quest. And more importantly, none of us are gratuitously cruel. So good things will happen on this quest, and I hope that enough good things have already happened to prove that.
-This is also a horror quest, so bad things will happen. Bad things might happen to good characters if you are not able to protect them, and you most certainly will not be able to intervene if you lack the tools to do so.
-And finally, this is a quest in which you jostle with powers greater than yourself, with all that it entails.

Please, do keep those things in mind as you go forward. But ultimately, this is also a quest in which it is hoped we all have fun! So if any of the above points is not exactly your cup of tea, or somehow make the experience as a whole "not worth it", then this quest might not be for you. Which is fine! Individual tastes are a thing, so don't think any more about it if you don't want to read anymore. And regardless, I hope you have a lovely day!

PSA for whoever needs to hear it:

Readers should take their own mental health into consideration when voting and not subject themselves to triggering narrative elements like rape or constant mental torture of a friend just for the Greatest Good of a world that doesn't exist.

If those are fine for you or Regrettable is even more triggering, then GREAT! More power to you. But you aren't a bad or selfish person for picking the option that keeps the characters you've emotionally connected with safe. [REDACTED for spoiler warning]

This is a high intensity quest that doesn't hold back when it comes to horror and negative consequences. Take care of yourself.
(Quote slightly edited to avoid spoilers)
 
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(Sips tea while reading through comments)

"Oh, but is this not exactly what you wanted?"

But my point was more that, well, Bird made it pretty clear a while ago that Shining Armor belongs to Cadence.
Chrysalys did show us, though, that complete override of will is possible and effective.

"It was mind control!" some might correctly state.

True, but that goes to show he was not immune to it.


This is, word for word, one of the things that I wrote down in one of my drafts.


Honestly? We've been assured that Velvet wouldn't lose control of herself under even a max Influence. We're too strong.
Remember, Velvet can control a max influence.
Kindly believe me when I say this is not me "rule lawyering".

But could you find me a quote on that?

I'll write down the usual spiel again. I don't do trap options, calling an Influence was not a trap, so on so forth. But I had something akin to "conflicting interests" while writing this.

After all, in CS itself the highest Influence is rated at "15", whilst the strongest possible Lore only reaches "14" when it comes to Lore intensity. Plus, Comet himself, a rather no-incompetent Edge-adept, was completely subsumed by the highest Edge intensity. But that can just as well mean that "Lore knowledge does not equate to Influence control". After all, a Name is knowledgeable in his own Lore, but is he not a slave to it in certain aspects?

Well, I digress.

The point that I am trying to make is, and I mean this in the greatest honesty, that I need to retain player agency (which I will, and I am not in the mood to retort to anyone screaming otherwise) whilst also transmitting how respectable the highest intensity of Influences are. Because this is the first time you are being exposed to an unfiltered one.

So, kindly read along the lines, take a good long look at the implications, and reach whatever conclusions you wish. Velvet Covers is currently willing to Leash Soft Sweeps, Velvet Covers is absolutely sure that she is in control of herself, and I believe I reached my desired compromise between narrative and game mechanics as QM.

After all, I feel very strongly about respecting the setting, I feel very strongly about having a consistent world, and I truly love Velvet's humanity. But I also believe in player agency, and believe that Velvet's humanity may only be maintained if I offer you certain options, every now and then, where you can choose to do something inhuman. I am not the one who keeps Velvet honest, you all are the ones who do that. And I will keep offering options to kill Selene rather than adopt her, turn Soft Sweeps into an Apostle, and lie through your teeth to Stormchaser until the end of the quest, because you can't say that you avoided tumbling down abyss if the abyss isn't right there.
(But I digress. This is not me telling that this or that action is morally better or worse, or that this is even one such vote where one of them is better or worse. Look at the update yourself and make your judgment. This is the realm of readers. I just type a story about ponies.)

Still, it did take me several weeks to write this, after all. And it wasn't because of writer's block.


the Gods-from-Nowhere are one and all tainted by the Worms
I object to that.

Sand may be abundant in deserts, but is it the only thing that exist in them? I would say no.


To be fair, it didn't amount to spit anyway, which seems to have been the point. The logic of the setting is for Velvet Covers to excise her morals and human foibles as quickly as possible, then ascend to hollow Glory on the backs of a billion flayed victims. If there ever was any hope through Harmony, we've already burnt it to ashes, and the ashes have flown into the sky and settled in the gulleys and been shit on by dogs.

This isn't a quest about being Edward Elric. It's a quest about becoming the Dwarf in the Flask.
Already been stated this isn't the case.



(Sips more tea)

Also, I truly believe that we, all of us, have a very nice relationship. I honestly appreciate all of you, and I hope that you trust me just as much. So! I will also open my heart a little bit, and make one thing abundantly clear.

I will really not appreciate the notion that this whole circumstance is a trap, or me trying to pull an "Ahah!" over you. Said lack of appreciation will most likely materialize as a request for a temporary ban, because to this day I still remember with a heavy heart what happened when we were first introduced to the Wolf.

But I say this in honesty and kindness. I hope you are all well, and see you all soon! Do ask me anything that you feel the mind for, I'll try to hop in throughout the day.
 
[X] "So the seeds . . . were planted, though for long years [they will be] nothing but an unfulfilled ache."
[X] Keep it in reserve
 
Rule 6: Acceptable Content on SV - Please do not try to justify rape.
It is ironic to me that there is so much concern for power dynamics and valid consent in this particular area when the goal is literally to become as a god, with no living equals and the ability to change ponies around us just by existing.

I don't think we can both accumulate power and avoid it's exercise.

Plus grave robbing horrifies me more on an ethical basis than having an affair, idk maybe I'm weird. This just seems like such a hypocritical line to draw.

Let's have her ask for what she actually wants. And do it best to make sure she has it.

[X] "The real Hours don't meet the Gods-from-Nowhere, but the Ring-Yew meets the Mare-in-the-Tree in where the Wood grows lush. Their couplings are forbidden, and forbidden things have power, and this is the story of their coupling."

[X] Keep it in reserve (Velvet will keep the Leash to herself, and consider using it if an unexpected circumstance arises, such as Twilight Sparkle or something else.)
 
[X] "So the seeds . . . were planted, though for long years [they will be] nothing but an unfulfilled ache."
[X] Keep it in reserve
 
I will really not appreciate the notion that this whole circumstance is a trap, or me trying to pull an "Ahah!" over you. Said lack of appreciation will most likely materialize as a request for a temporary ban, because to this day I still remember with a heavy heart what happened when we were first introduced to the Wolf.

Oh, this isn't a trap. For it to be a trap would require that we didn't do it to ourselves. We were the ones who choose to jump head first into Grail. Now we have to deal with the mess we made for ourselves.
 
[X] "The real Hours don't meet the Gods-from-Nowhere, but the Ring-Yew meets the Mare-in-the-Tree in where the Wood grows lush. Their couplings are forbidden, and forbidden things have power, and this is the story of their coupling."
 
It is ironic to me that there is so much concern for power dynamics and valid consent in this particular area when the goal is literally to become as a god, with no living equals and the ability to change ponies around us just by existing.

I don't think we can both accumulate power and avoid it's exercise.

Plus grave robbing horrifies me more on an ethical basis than having an affair, idk maybe I'm weird. This just seems like such a hypocritical line to draw.

Let's have her ask for what she actually wants. And do it best to make sure she has it.

[X] "The real Hours don't meet the Gods-from-Nowhere, but the Ring-Yew meets the Mare-in-the-Tree in where the Wood grows lush. Their couplings are forbidden, and forbidden things have power, and this is the story of their coupling."

[X] Keep it in reserve (Velvet will keep the Leash to herself, and consider using it if an unexpected circumstance arises, such as Twilight Sparkle or something else.)
It's not really great to gloss over stormchasers feelings like that. But brutal pragmatism is... still not great honestly. Especially given how much we stand to lose.
 
JFC people, BirdBodhisatva just fucking said that he offered us a pit to jump down. Why are so many people voting to dive into the Abyss?
 
[X] "So the seeds . . . were planted, though for long years [they will be] nothing but an unfulfilled ache."
[X] Keep it in reserve (Velvet will keep the Leash to herself, and consider using it if an unexpected circumstance arises, such as Twilight Sparkle or something else.)

Yeah, no. I'm not jumping into this pit.
 
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[X] "So the seeds . . . were planted, though for long years [they will be] nothing but an unfulfilled ache."
[X] Keep it in reserve (Velvet will keep the Leash to herself, and consider using it if an unexpected circumstance arises, such as Twilight Sparkle or something else.)

It may not be a trap but Bird has literally never stopped us from making horrible decisions and have not hesitated in showing their consequences
 
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[X] "So the seeds . . . were planted, though for long years [they will be] nothing but an unfulfilled ache."
[X] Keep it in reserve
 
JFC people, BirdBodhisatva just fucking said that he offered us a pit to jump down. Why are so many people voting to dive into the Abyss?
Here you go:

(But I digress. This is not me telling that this or that action is morally better or worse, or that this is even one such vote where one of them is better or worse. Look at the update yourself and make your judgment. This is the realm of readers. I just type a story about ponies.)
 
JFC people, BirdBodhisatva just fucking said that he offered us a pit to jump down. Why are so many people voting to dive into the Abyss?
To torture Bird by making him write a sufficiently Graily interactions between two Grail adepts one of which is completely intoxicated by another? After all, that *would* be a fairly hard writing challenge.

On a more serious note, narratively the choice might be fun because it shall introduce more drama down the line. After all, we are here to have fun, not to lawyer the quest rules to make Velvet's life easier.
 
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[X] "So the seeds . . . were planted, though for long years [they will be] nothing but an unfulfilled ache."
[X] Keep it in reserve (Velvet will keep the Leash to herself, and consider using it if an unexpected circumstance arises, such as Twilight Sparkle or something else.)

Even if it isn't a trap in the eldritch sense… do you guys honestly think Velvet is going to ever forgive herself for cheating on Stormchaser?
 
[X] "So the seeds . . . were planted, though for long years [they will be] nothing but an unfulfilled ache."
[X] Keep it in reserve (Velvet will keep the Leash to herself, and consider using it if an unexpected circumstance arises, such as Twilight Sparkle or something else.)

God, I am genuinely terrified of the other option. I felt palpable relief as I scrolled and the vote started turning away from it.
 
I think we can trust our QM to introduce enough drama into Velvet's life without having to add our own
Frankly we already have enough drama. What, with the soon-to-be-unhappy eldritch abomination, the secrets we must keep from the alicorns. The worms doing what worms do. The fact that we know where the Wolf is. The fact that the Winter council member would happily do the Wolf's bidding. The grail council member hates us. Etc.

We do not need to willfully add more drama to our lives.
 
Bird does not offer trap or abyss options.

Bird doesn't do trap options, but he just said he does abyss options.

And I will keep offering options to kill Selene rather than adopt her, turn Soft Sweeps into an Apostle, and lie through your teeth to Stormchaser until the end of the quest, because you can't say that you avoided tumbling down abyss if the abyss isn't right there.
 
Like our choice with Twilight.

Your treating power as if it is fundamental wrong but it is a lack of power that's the problem. This is an option to gift our friend power.
No. This is an option to get our friend wasted on grail, like we currently are.

It gains some power, sure, but there are consequences to this. Especially given the whole ever-faithful velvet cheating thing. Because I very much believe that will be a bigger problem than anything else to do with this option. Remember family is everything to Velvet.
 
[X] "So the seeds . . . were planted, though for long years [they will be] nothing but an unfulfilled ache."

[X] Keep it in reserve (Velvet will keep the Leash to herself, and consider using it if an unexpected circumstance arises, such as Twilight Sparkle or something else.)
 
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No. This is an option to get our friend wasted on grail, like we currently are.

Debatable

Especially given the whole ever-faithful velvet cheating thing.

I think you lack a fundamental understanding of Velvets character here.

It gains some power, sure, but there are consequences to this.

And their are consequences for lacking power. I wouldn't be so quick to be placing weakness as a virtue. Especially given what just happened with the changeling menace.
 
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