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Palace of Greed, El Dorado (Library of Ruina)

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I didn't vote for the consumable version of the plan in the previous vote, and I'm not changing my mind now.

[X] Plan Free (Not Including the Cost of Bullets)

[X] Gun-Glove (Wearable) – product of the SilverSteel Workshop. One of the few Workshops involving Guns that Mao seems to frequent – even though it's a gun, it's only usable in punch-range. It's part of the reason why it's cheap and hasn't been sold – it is still expensive, though Mao's more than willing to foot the bill. That being said, you have to buy your own bullets. Effect: +4 Damage per Shot. Uses Melee instead of Ranged. Requires Bullet. Cost: 4,999,999 Ahn. 100,000 Ahn per Bullet. Can only Carry 12 at Maximum per Outing.
-[X] 6 Bullets
 
The flower drug just feels like a recipe for introducing more salt into things. I know if it's voted in then I'm going to vote against using it in most circumstances, including in this fight, because that's a lot of money. (And because I don't think it's needed, as demonstrated by the fact I didn't vote for that plan.) You're not voting for whether you think it'll be useful, you're voting for whether you think it'll be useful and whether everyone else will want to use it when you think it'd be useful. That feels like a pretty dicey thing to me.
 
Anderein said:
The flower drug just feels like a recipe for introducing more salt into things. I know if it's voted in then I'm going to vote against using it in most circumstances, including in this fight, because that's a lot of money. (And because I don't think it's needed, as demonstrated by the fact I didn't vote for that plan.) You're not voting for whether you think it'll be useful, you're voting for whether you think it'll be useful and whether everyone else will want to use it when you think it'd be useful. That feels like a pretty dicey thing to me.
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Fight against Fixers but what if the Distortion targets us?= No using the drug
Fight against Distortion but what if it has a phase 2? = No using the drug
Phase 2? well it would be a waste to use it right now since its winding down?=No using the drug

And thus the potion-I mean drug wasnt used in the whole game.
 
Anderein said:
The flower drug just feels like a recipe for introducing more salt into things. I know if it's voted in then I'm going to vote against using it in most circumstances, including in this fight, because that's a lot of money. (And because I don't think it's needed, as demonstrated by the fact I didn't vote for that plan.) You're not voting for whether you think it'll be useful, you're voting for whether you think it'll be useful and whether everyone else will want to use it when you think it'd be useful. That feels like a pretty dicey thing to me.
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What are you talking about.

This is a fight where we're massive outclassed, this is exactly the time to use a powerful, temporary buff to cosplay as a Grade 1!
 
I was looking at stats to remember how you calculate stats and their effects for my personal use, and I noticed a discrepancy (I think?)

SoothingCoffee said:
Additionally, Health Points correspond to Fortitude, while Sanity Points correspond to Prudence. Without any increase from either Stat, you will have 20 HP and SP... Each Rank Increase in the Stat adds 5 Points into the pool.
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So by default we have 20 HP and SP, and each Rank adds 5, and we have 3 Fortitude but we are only at 30 HP. Our SP is fine (as its at 25, due to 1 Prudence), so did something change (like default HP being lowered from 20 to 15) @SoothingCoffee

I could've missed something, but I just wanted to check in about that
 
Rhon said:
So by default we have 20 HP and SP, and each Rank adds 5, and we have 3 Fortitude but we are only at 30 HP. Our SP is fine (as its at 25, due to 1 Prudence), so did something change (like default HP being lowered from 20 to 15) @SoothingCoffee

I could've missed something, but I just wanted to check in about that
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They start at rank 1 so that's +10 for ranks 2 and 3.
 
Crow said:
Fight against Fixers but what if the Distortion targets us?= No using the drug
Fight against Distortion but what if it has a phase 2? = No using the drug
Phase 2? well it would be a waste to use it right now since its winding down?=No using the drug

And thus the potion-I mean drug wasnt used in the whole game.
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"Okay, we've already defeated All The Arbiters and a Bucket of Beholders, but after the Cadre of Claws we've still got to storm A Corp, and you can't tell me we won't have a multi-form boss fight. We've not using it!"

Alectai said:
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What are you talking about.

This is a fight where we're massive outclassed, this is exactly the time to use a powerful, temporary buff to cosplay as a Grade 1!
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Oh, if Mao had bought it for us and went, "hey, you really should use this for the fight," or we otherwise had GM nudging saying, "HEY," then I'd say to use it, sure. But it seems pretty fair to assume that the encounter isn't balanced to require it, and Mao will be there, among others. This isn't a case where Lily needs to be the one to save the day.

So if we buy it, I'm going to vote to use it when Lily is something other than a relatively unimportant back-up dancer, especially since she's got a "do not die" button and is otherwise disproportionately tough for her rank. Unless you're glory-hounding for increased rewards, what's the value? Do you think it's going to be worth all those sevens? I doubt it!
 
RiceRockRekt said:
Minor note, this should be 30/30, and while I'm here, I have a question @SoothingCoffee; if we took the Ego reduction from Strange Organ Transplant, wou
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25's right -- it's 20+5 from Sanity food buff.


RiceRockRekt said:
go back to a normal Untrained skill's 100 XP cost to raise to Rookie? Because with that possibility and this–
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It'd still remain at that rank.

Rhon said:
So by default we have 20 HP and SP, and each Rank adds 5, and we have 3 Fortitude but we are only at 30 HP. Our SP is fine (as its at 25, due to 1 Prudence), so did something change (like default HP being lowered from 20 to 15)
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20 includes the +5 from rank 1 Fortitude and Prudence. With 3 Fortitude, you total up to 30. Prudence has 25 thanks to the extra 5 from food buff.
 
Just finished reading up to here, expected it to take then one day but what do I know. Anyway hopefully I did this right...

[X] Plan Free (Not Including the Cost of Bullets)

[X] Strange Organ Transplant (Augment) – Doctor Nyorau, according to Mao, is apparently a Master of actual repute, and you're only able to afford this because it's both highly experimental, and the payment that he seeks is to see what change this brings you. He's a Master of Hybridization Augmentation – a way of strengthening someone through adding traits from other beings into you. This is incredibly, incredibly suspect. Effect: +1 to Melee: What, +1 to Endurance: Are, and +1 to Instinct: You?. -2 to Ego: Not Yourself. ???. Cost: Nothing. Yourself?


what can I say, weird potentially draconic spleen is just appealing to me. Tbh I wish I could peer into the alternate timeline where you also chose warped, full dragon run! Even though that would probably just be a distortion% speedrun.
 
[X] Plan 7 +3 = Kill
-[X] 'Seven Minutes of Heaven, Seven Hours of Purgatory, and Seven Days of Hell' Seed
-[X] Gun-Glove (Wearable)
--[X] 3 Bullets
 
Anderein said:
Oh, if Mao had bought it for us and went, "hey, you really should use this for the fight," or we otherwise had GM nudging saying, "HEY," then I'd say to use it, sure. But it seems pretty fair to assume that the encounter isn't balanced to require it, and Mao will be there, among others. This isn't a case where Lily needs to be the one to save the day.
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*Blink* ...Okay, this might just be me being stupid, but doesn't this logic mean there's no reason to buy anything here? Afterall, the GM didn't nudge us to go shopping. In fact, they kind of did the opposite by telling us we'd have to be really lucky to find anything worthwhile that cost under 1 mil?
 
RiceRockRekt said:
No one's thought to ask 'so, what happens with the flower?' Because there's gonna be a flower growing out of Lily after the seven days of pain are through.

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I was gonna make commentary about a flower from a girl named a flower, but then Memory struck.

So I was gonna say 'I'm fine with whatever wins, go nuts,' but apparently I'm the slightest bit here for wherever the hell botany goes, so that's, sure, okay.

(Yes, yes I recognize the one most likely to have a flower exit her empty eye socket is Kai, no, no this doesn't give me any thoughts on a desperate last minute Senzu Bean pass on Lily's part leading to Kai getting Intoner Mode for a boss duel, why, what makes you ask)
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One, welcome to the "Partners make for cool last stands" club. Those ideas have moved in my head and they have started redecorating. I can imagine when they are thrown into the corner, instead of one of them having an existential crisis to a voice no one else can hear, they both can hear Carmen and collectively rebuke her. I would say "or agree" but I do not want another Love Town incident. Saying that, I did have an idea for Kai is 'dancing' with a very Warped Lily with bits and pieces that show Kai herself might be a little Warped herself.

Two, I completely forgot about that theming and now I am all for it. I think the most fitting spot for a flower to emerge from is around her heart. I was working on an idea about the inside Lily's mind with four versions of herself talking about how the best way to grow. What it reminded me of specifically is that I imagined her mental world started with a single flower, herself, but more flowers and more types of flowers grow depending on how developed her stats and skills are. For example, there is an overwhelming majority of spider lilies because she favors Fortitude so much. Unfortunately, that idea stalled and now is in the bin of omakes that did not go anywhere.
 
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Ros and Los said:
One, welcome to the "Partners make for cool last stands" club. Those ideas have moved in my head and they have started redecorating. I can imagine when they are thrown into the corner, instead of one of them having an existential crisis to a voice no one else can hear, they both can hear Carmen and collectively rebuke her. I would say "or agree" but I do not want another Love Town incident. Saying I did have an idea for Kai is 'dancing' with a very Warped Lily with bits and pieces that show Kai herself might be a little Warped herself.

Two, I completely forgot about that theming and now I am all for it. I think the most fitting spot for a flower to emerge from is around her heart. I was working on an idea about the inside Lily's mind with four versions of herself talking about how the best way to grow. What it reminded me of specifically is that I imagined her mental world started with a single flower, herself, but more flowers and more types of flowers grow depending on how developed her stats and skills are. For example, there is an overwhelming majority of spider lilies because she favors Fortitude so much. Unfortunately, that idea stalled and now is in the bin of omakes that do not go anywhere.
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The majority of flowers growing on her would probably be Lycoris' (Spider lily) though there may be some Niles (Temperance) and Lilies of the Valley (Justice), and almost no Amaryllis' (Prudence).

Though if its just the one flower then a Resurrection Lily would work for obvious reasons.

A dark part of my mind makes me think she'd develop some form of hanahaki disease though due to her near inability to sort out her feelings on people.
 
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Mom's Shit Stir-Fry - the 'art' of not wasting food by throwing everything (and you mean everything) available into your preferable cooking vessel. What comes out of the other end is shit, predictably. Hundreds and thousands of explosions of flavors, but in a fucked up vomit-inducing way. Sweet, and sour, and salty, and spicy, and bitter, and just in general gut-curling. Yet, despite that, it fills you with great and addicting and deep Longing and Yearning. You've tasted this, so long ago, and it beckons. [-10 Sanity. Can't be recovered naturally.

+ 1 to Ego: Remember the Past.

+ 1 to Repression: Learn from the Past.

- 2 to Vision: Yearn for the Past.

Lasts for a Week.]
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Wow I didnt think of it but reaffirming Lily's own ego (if grabbing the heart) through Mom's shit cooking would slap so hard.

Never knew I needed something so badly till I though of it this way.
 
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The majority of flowers growing on her would probably be Lycoris' (Spider lily) though there may be some Niles (Temperance) and Lilies of the Valley (Justice), and almost no Amaryllis' (Prudence).

Though if its just the one flower then a Resurrection Lily would work for obvious reasons.

A dark part of my mind makes me think she'd develop some form of hanahaki disease though to her near inability to sort out her feelings on people.
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Yep yep, you are the one that gave me the idea by the way. Each version of Lily would be named after each of the lilies you mentioned, as you posted a while back.

Also, I did not know what hanahaki disease was before but now I can not stop seeing it either. Lily spitting up petals every time she catches herself having positive feelings for someone would be hilarious as it is morbid.

Lily: "Oi, none of that mushy crap with me." *coughs up petals*
Kai: *concern rises*
 
One thing I wanna point out regarding the drug+ 3 bullet plan (and part of the reason I didn't vote that way): Having less bullets also will make for more decision paralysis on a voting side (when do we partition out using them in combat vs saving them for later) vs having more bullets available to help win fights (we can be more liberal).

Yes, the drug does let us just crowbar our way to victory against....most things in our weight class, but the side effects will basically take us out of action after the mission meaning we HAVE to perform well and get a sizably larger cut to make up for it.

I dunno, I just don't prefer consumables in general (though I can understand the want for a safety net in this case). Like those Iron Pills we still have. Anyone else remember we have those? Cos I sure didn't!
 
To be honest, imo the Seed's a trade-off. Sure it'll boost the stats, but could a situation where Lily has to use it come about due to not having 3x more instances of +4 damage? Personally I'd advocate just the 6 bullets, one for each of the fixers in Vic's office for speedy finishing off. Well if their 9s are squishy enough we can save all 6 for the Grade 8/emergencies, but I doubt that's going to be the case. Hmm...
 
Also don't we have a mission after this one and the drugs side effects last for the rest of the week so any surprise encounters we didn't plan for or if the other mission we took goes horribly wrong I'm pretty sure the injured state comes with debuffs. Also maybe something happens that makes the fight last longer than seven minutes so something that can be chosen to be used at any time(gun glove) or is always on would be better(vest/heart).
 
Ismar_The_Beast said:
Also don't we have a mission after this one and the drugs side effects last for the rest of the week so any surprise encounters we didn't plan for or if the other mission we took goes horribly wrong I'm pretty sure the injured state comes with debuffs. Also maybe something happens that makes the fight last longer than seven minutes so something that can be chosen to be used at any time(gun glove) or is always on would be better(vest/heart).
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Injured is not a big problem, not for a Canard level mission.
 
I really want this to be a valid vote even though I know it's not.

[ ] Plan: Mom and Mao
-[ ] Strange Organ Transplant (Augment) – Doctor Nyorau, according to Mao, is apparently a Master of actual repute, and you're only able to afford this because it's both highly experimental, and the payment that he seeks is to see what change this brings you. He's a Master of Hybridization Augmentation – a way of strengthening someone through adding traits from other beings into you. This is incredibly, incredibly suspect. Effect: +1 to Melee: What, +1 to Endurance: Are, and +1 to Instinct: You?. -2 to Ego: Not Yourself. ???. Cost: Nothing. Yourself?
-[ ] Gun-Glove (Wearable) – product of the SilverSteel Workshop. One of the few Workshops involving Guns that Mao seems to frequent – even though it's a gun, it's only usable in punch-range. It's part of the reason why it's cheap and hasn't been sold – it is still expensive, though Mao's more than willing to foot the bill. That being said, you have to buy your own bullets. Effect: +4 Damage per Shot. Uses Melee instead of Ranged. Requires Bullet. Cost: 4,999,999 Ahn. 100,000 Ahn per Bullet. Can only Carry 12 at Maximum per Outing.
-[ ] 6 Bullets
-[ ] Switch diet plan
--[ ] Mom's Shitty Stir-Fry (30,000 Ahn): The logic of 'not wasting anything at all' is something that you're very much willing to internalize, but the execution on how this recipe's doing that is fucking stupid. Still, it's a taste of the past, and the past is an awfully addicting thing. [-10 Sanity. +1 to Repression and Ego, -2 to Vision]

Because I can imagine Lily seeing the name through the fourth wall and screaming "NOT LIKE THAT MAO", and Mao just closes her eyes and smiles because she knows, in that moment, she has won.
 
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