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Digging for Nations in the Desert (No SV, You are a Micronation in the End of the World)

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[X]Unearth the River: You are going to reconnect the river to its tributary on the Surface. Doing something, and reversing what the Egyptians, at least in theory, did almost 5,000 years ago. (Will begin a large project to bring a river to the surface. Will not have any risk of starting an environmental catastrophe. Will make Drilling for oil harder.) Reward: Sustincene Agriculture, Comercial, will move up to Meh, and can be made to Perfect Levels

While oil would be infinitely more profitable in an absolute sense, particularly given our very limited space, water is leverage in the middle east (and everywhere, really, but especially here). I think we need leverage more than money right now.
 
[X]Unearth the River: You are going to reconnect the river to its tributary on the Surface. Doing something, and reversing what the Egyptians, at least in theory, did almost 5,000 years ago. (Will begin a large project to bring a river to the surface. Will not have any risk of starting an environmental catastrophe. Will make Drilling for oil harder.) Reward: Sustincene Agriculture, Comercial, will move up to Meh, and can be made to Perfect Levels
 
[X]Unearth the River: You are going to reconnect the river to its tributary on the Surface. Doing something, and reversing what the Egyptians, at least in theory, did almost 5,000 years ago. (Will begin a large project to bring a river to the surface. Will not have any risk of starting an environmental catastrophe. Will make Drilling for oil harder.) Reward: Sustincene Agriculture, Comercial, will move up to Meh, and can be made to Perfect Levels
 
[X]Unearth the River: You are going to reconnect the river to its tributary on the Surface. Doing something, and reversing what the Egyptians, at least in theory, did almost 5,000 years ago. (Will begin a large project to bring a river to the surface. Will not have any risk of starting an environmental catastrophe. Will make Drilling for oil harder.) Reward: Sustincene Agriculture, Comercial, will move up to Meh, and can be made to Perfect Levels
 
[X]Unearth the River: You are going to reconnect the river to its tributary on the Surface. Doing something, and reversing what the Egyptians, at least in theory, did almost 5,000 years ago. (Will begin a large project to bring a river to the surface. Will not have any risk of starting an environmental catastrophe. Will make Drilling for oil harder.) Reward: Sustincene Agriculture, Comercial, will move up to Meh, and can be made to Perfect Levels

we can always work on the oil later. This will have some interesting effects on the desert though... Kinda looking forwards to how people will react to "Oh, by the way, greenified more of the desert that's slowly encroaching the continent"
 
[X]Unearth the River: You are going to reconnect the river to its tributary on the Surface. Doing something, and reversing what the Egyptians, at least in theory, did almost 5,000 years ago. (Will begin a large project to bring a river to the surface. Will not have any risk of starting an environmental catastrophe. Will make Drilling for oil harder.) Reward: Sustincene Agriculture, Comercial, will move up to Meh, and can be made to Perfect Levels

Feels redundant to vote with it so stacked in agreement, but yeah, we can do oil later when the tech is better.
 
[X]Unearth the River: You are going to reconnect the river to its tributary on the Surface. Doing something, and reversing what the Egyptians, at least in theory, did almost 5,000 years ago. (Will begin a large project to bring a river to the surface. Will not have any risk of starting an environmental catastrophe. Will make Drilling for oil harder.) Reward: Sustincene Agriculture, Comercial, will move up to Meh, and can be made to Perfect Levels
 
Silversun17 said:
In that case he could fuck up and get black listed. Maybe he gets found feeding info to the KKK?
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Though, that may not change much except operating under a pseudonym. Though having Thomas P. Christie coming under fire for protecting the fighter mafia might be enough to kick things off in a way that takes out The Reformers as a group, with Lind possibly ending up getting screwed over trying to involve himself...
 
The fall of the Reformers
A group of like-minded individuals and under the protection of Thomas P. Christie, head of the Tac Air division. Notable for their loathing of tech, as shown through their disdain towards everything tech. One notable section was the 'fighter Mafia' whom was formed around John Boyd and Thomas P. Christie. While their attacks on the aircraft being fielded, had found some fertile ground due in part of how thinkers had thought that dogfighting would become largely irrelevant, they weren't prepared for the media war that would wage with the events of the Middle-east and Guangchou serving as a worrying backdrop.

After ab egregious incident with a member of the 'fighter mafia', all hell broke loose. While at the start, the reformers, being lead by William S. Lind managed to secure some ground using the distrust of the military and the fact there was indeed some truth in the criticisms. Being prepared for it, the opposition sought to brutally rip apart the sensationalist and spin doctoring MO that shown again and again whenever a 'Reformer' sought to strike a blow. People on both sides found their reputations and career sunk in the firestorm, with collateral becoming unavoidable from the sheer weight of both scrutiny and accusations being thrown around. By the time things finally calmed down after a full year of fire and brimstone, alongside tons of tests on both sides.

While The Reformers had eventually lost, with their methods being turned against them, thanks in part of the various factfinders trudging through the media war to uncover the truth. Partly because while sensationalist, there are kernels of mundane truth hidden inside their wonderous lies and exaggerations, ones that will hopefully be taken care with now that it is exposed.

A/N: I was inspired, so I decided to write this. The reformers died before they were able to branch out, like their scathing propaganda campaign against the Bradley IFV. But they likely still left an impression, though the US army could still come out ahead after recovering, assuming they decide to put effort to really try to fix the problems that did exist in the system. As far as why a year? Well, lots of testing, poking at existing projects, mud-slinging, and investigative reporting are likely to be going on. And well, even with it going hotter than IRL, it honestly might take even longer than just one year to be fully resolved.
Edit: Some relevant articles I used to help a bit in making this.
 
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[X]Unearth the River: You are going to reconnect the river to its tributary on the Surface. Doing something, and reversing what the Egyptians, at least in theory, did almost 5,000 years ago. (Will begin a large project to bring a river to the surface. Will not have any risk of starting an environmental catastrophe. Will make Drilling for oil harder.) Reward: Sustincene Agriculture, Comercial, will move up to Meh, and can be made to Perfect Levels
 
[X]Unearth the River: You are going to reconnect the river to its tributary on the Surface. Doing something, and reversing what the Egyptians, at least in theory, did almost 5,000 years ago. (Will begin a large project to bring a river to the surface. Will not have any risk of starting an environmental catastrophe. Will make Drilling for oil harder.) Reward: Sustenance Agriculture, Commercial, will move up to Meh, and can be made to Perfect Levels

No risk at present with near term benefits. We can get oil later when were better prepared.
 
[X]Unearth the River: You are going to reconnect the river to its tributary on the Surface. Doing something, and reversing what the Egyptians, at least in theory, did almost 5,000 years ago. (Will begin a large project to bring a river to the surface. Will not have any risk of starting an environmental catastrophe. Will make Drilling for oil harder.) Reward: Sustenance Agriculture, Commercial, will move up to Meh, and can be made to Perfect Levels
 
[X]Unearth the River: You are going to reconnect the river to its tributary on the Surface. Doing something, and reversing what the Egyptians, at least in theory, did almost 5,000 years ago. (Will begin a large project to bring a river to the surface. Will not have any risk of starting an environmental catastrophe. Will make Drilling for oil harder.) Reward: Sustincene Agriculture, Comercial, will move up to Meh, and can be made to Perfect Levels

Oil will need to wait for later. Possibly until we get some American engineers to have a look at it.
Better the Americans than others. The Americans will drive a hard bargain, the British and Russians would just shoot us and take it.
 
[X]Unearth the River: You are going to reconnect the river to its tributary on the Surface. Doing something, and reversing what the Egyptians, at least in theory, did almost 5,000 years ago. (Will begin a large project to bring a river to the surface. Will not have any risk of starting an environmental catastrophe. Will make Drilling for oil harder.) Reward: Sustincene Agriculture, Comercial, will move up to Meh, and can be made to Perfect Levels
The water is more important than oil right now we can do oil later
 
[X]Unearth the River: You are going to reconnect the river to its tributary on the Surface. Doing something, and reversing what the Egyptians, at least in theory, did almost 5,000 years ago. (Will begin a large project to bring a river to the surface. Will not have any risk of starting an environmental catastrophe. Will make Drilling for oil harder.) Reward: Sustincene Agriculture, Comercial, will move up to Meh, and can be made to Perfect Levels

Is there a way we can dig, so that we are trying to leave open the possibility of digging for oil later? I imagine that we could try to ensure certain pieces of land don't interact with the river (by making concrete levees to direct the river away from these places). It would make later oil excavation easier, and I imagine just going in with the idea of getting the water may cause problems later.

I really think we need to make it explicit that we are going to be trying to prep for oil excavation later. I don't think we should just say we could dig for oil later, but that we should make plans that leave digging for oil as an easier possibility in the future. Otherwise, someone down the ladder is not going to get the memo, and our entire potential oil field will be completely underwater, when it really didn't need to be.
 
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Themarineguy said:
Well, I hazard a guess that the differences between them is largely degrees of attempted resistance against the mind control.
Odds the one that Jadeite thought seemed fully willing was actually the least successful at trying to resist?

...Oh dear. So does that mean Jadeite could trigger a psudo-ripper mode?
Cause it sounds like he has similarities with Raiden...
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I think you are replying to the wrong thread.
 
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