Sailor_Skarro
The Lurker
[X] Plan KnightDisciple v0.675
The INDEX Initiative: Not!XCOM Planquest
- Thread starter Oshha
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- Original Sci-Fi
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- Hollister
[X] Plan KnightDisciple v0.675
- Location
- United States
[X] Plan KnightDisciple v0.675
- Location
- Milky Way
[X] Plan Finish up, look at Aliens and rapid Transport
Infrastructure (4/3 Dice) 60R 1FD
-[X] Echo Base (Phase 1) (16/100, 2D, 20R)
-[X] Enigma Site (Phase 1) (0/100, 2D, 40R)
Industry (4/4 Dice) 35R
-[X] Top Off Stocks (65/100, 1D, 5R)
-[X] Establish Supplier Contracts (108/150, 1D, 10R)
-[X] Acquiring Factories (0/100, 2D, 20R)
Services (4/4 Dice) 40R
-[X] Medical Outreach (0/120, 2D, 20R)
-[X] Establish PR Office (0/100, 2D, 20R)
Research (4/4 Dice) 80R
-[X] Analyse Alien Encounters (0/100, 2D, 40R)
-[X] Study A-Class UFOs (0/100, 2D, 40R)
Military (5/6 Dice) 85R
-[X] Security Division (190/200, 1D, 15R)
-[X] National Liaisons (45/100, 1D, 10R)
-[X] Rapid Global Transport Development (0/120, 3D, 60R)
Administration (3/3 Dice) 15R
-[X] Strategic Planning (0/200, 3D, 15R)
60+35+40+80+85+15=315
Infrastructure (4/3 Dice) 60R 1FD
-[X] Echo Base (Phase 1) (16/100, 2D, 20R)
-[X] Enigma Site (Phase 1) (0/100, 2D, 40R)
Industry (4/4 Dice) 35R
-[X] Top Off Stocks (65/100, 1D, 5R)
-[X] Establish Supplier Contracts (108/150, 1D, 10R)
-[X] Acquiring Factories (0/100, 2D, 20R)
Services (4/4 Dice) 40R
-[X] Medical Outreach (0/120, 2D, 20R)
-[X] Establish PR Office (0/100, 2D, 20R)
Research (4/4 Dice) 80R
-[X] Analyse Alien Encounters (0/100, 2D, 40R)
-[X] Study A-Class UFOs (0/100, 2D, 40R)
Military (5/6 Dice) 85R
-[X] Security Division (190/200, 1D, 15R)
-[X] National Liaisons (45/100, 1D, 10R)
-[X] Rapid Global Transport Development (0/120, 3D, 60R)
Administration (3/3 Dice) 15R
-[X] Strategic Planning (0/200, 3D, 15R)
60+35+40+80+85+15=315
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Sailor_Skarro
The Lurker
So @Aerrow Shadow, just wondering, why are you making a plan that is leaving dice unfilled, considering our limiting factor isn't our budget but our dice right now? Are you anticipating a big price spike in all our stuff?
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The Industry dice i forgot.
The military die i dont use because i think we should analyse the aliens before we start develop new Vehicles
The military die i dont use because i think we should analyse the aliens before we start develop new Vehicles
Problem that i see is that a Reusable boosters have been tried by the Air force and canned due to DoD budget cuts and a Negative report but i presume that it did not produce any worthwhile results(Don't know anymore details because its behind a paywall I am NOT going to pay 20 dollars for that shit or am i gonna spend my time trying to find a Pirated copy)
And what you propose while the most fastest is gonna be the most expensive one as well and beyond a dozen or so launches i do not see it being feasible currently
Conventional missiles do work on UFOs as seen before but anything on an infantry level is unknown due to no encounters but from what has been shown i don't think anything that is too outrageous
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Well there's your problem!
But no, seriously, I can't stress how fucked up US military R&D and procurement is. The Pentagon has literally squashed any attempt at financial transparency because they would look inept at best. I would take anything they have to say on the matter with a serious grain of salt.
Send me the link to the paper? I'll see if SciHub has it.
I'm also skleptical that it would be more expensive than developing an aircraft for the task, simply because the loads and stresses a super/hypersonic aricraft has to deal with are so much more complex than the ones a rocket experiences. I think given equal amounts of spending on rocket and aircraft technology, rocket R&D gets us better capability per dollar simply because we can bypass so many of the inherent limitations of aircraft.
Ah I apologies i am not intimately familiar with the US internal politicksWell there's your problem!
But no, seriously, I can't stress how fucked up US military R&D and procurement is. The Pentagon has literally squashed any attempt at financial transparency because they would look inept at best. I would take anything they have to say on the matter with a serious grain of salt.
Name: Reusable Booster System – Review and Assessment
What you are saying is true but rockets are usually a one time use thing and current rocket tech is still expensive and it is gonna get more cheaper and easier and so on but reaching that level of Rocket sophistication is gonna take time
and in the time we are developing it better alternatives may show themselves from Alien salvages that make Aircrafts a better option, And there is much more experience doing high end Aircraft than Rockets
My main gripe with the Rocket idea is costs and efficiency of usage of it But it does not account for Reusable Boosters idea which there not much details that i know of
It IRL is currently is a huge mess...
In fact when someone mentioned trump....
Well sadly, if it was JUST TRUMP, it would be probably somewhat manageable. but, It seems very much having some random millionaire hijack the Republican Party from their party heads left the Democrat heads quite scared, and seemed to make a point of painting absolutely everything connected to him as possible in as negative a light as possible...
Now he doesn't exactly make it hard at times, considering his complete disregard for being 'politically correct' though...
Hopefully that nonsense gets completely derailed as a side affect of the invasion, both because of how inflammatory it is right now, and also the fact it likely would be quite problematic for us...
As far as the military stuff...
Not really sure, besides the fact that some stuff can be blown out of proportion, like the 'alleged troop carrier' that is actually rather simply explained by it not actually being a troop carrier.
Namely the fact that Troop carrier is technically part of it's function, but a bit of a misnomer.
Hopefully it wont mess with INDEX
KnightDisciple
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Pretty sure the guy who was a major "contributer" for Pentagon Wars is buddy-buddy with William Lind, the jackhole whe dreamed up the nightmare that is Victoria, so take it with 5 shakers of salt.
Anyways, I'll let @Oshha , who is running this game, elaborate on how our research into a rapid transport works instead of trying to dictate it to him.
Anyways, I'll let @Oshha , who is running this game, elaborate on how our research into a rapid transport works instead of trying to dictate it to him.
Ah yes the "reformers" those idiots who believe WW2 designs is suitable for a 21 century battlefield. This is showcased with they utter loathing for a plane mounted radar because it's too "fragile" and prone to errors.
This is ignoring the radar can help the pilot Sport enemy planes from several kilometres away and guides a middle to it.
And even they stay away from Lind because he's more radioactive than Chernobyl.
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Yeah, I'll try to type up a longer response when I get home, but I very deliberately didn't use Pentagon Wars as an example because IIRC it's not a very accurate rendition of how things went down.
The Pentagon IS in a highly incestuous relationship with the Military-Industrial complex, but the details are a lot more boring than that movie presents them as.
Yeah, I looked it up, and learned something new...
Namely, that a group that has the author of THAT ONE BOOK as their middle man, definitely makes little sense if actually looked at...
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Namely, that a group that has the author of THAT ONE BOOK as their middle man, definitely makes little sense if actually looked at...
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Didn't they at least at one point had him in their group?
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tankdrop24
Tread First into Hell
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For one thing the movie seems not to get the whole concept of an IFV. Like, the Bradley is not some kind of unique abomination among fighting vehicles. Most armies worldwide have an equivalent.
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Ok, here's a copy of the full paper. Don't have time to read it today, but I'll come back to it when I have more time for a more thorough accounting.
Off the top of my head it looks like they wanted to make the booster into a spaceplane type thing, which, yeah, that's was immediately going to introduce complications vs just doing a retro-propulsive burn.
So to go on to another topic.
How will we transport the remains of an alien craft we shot down to one of our bases for research?
We could possibly use the Rapid Global Transport, though since it's commissioned by our spec ops branch it may not have enough capacity to carry anything beyond a 12 person strike team and maybe an armed drone tank.
How will we transport the remains of an alien craft we shot down to one of our bases for research?
We could possibly use the Rapid Global Transport, though since it's commissioned by our spec ops branch it may not have enough capacity to carry anything beyond a 12 person strike team and maybe an armed drone tank.
It seems we are not moving it, at least not as a whole. We are building a base around it.
Oh, I'm not talking about the Big one just the other smaller UFOS that we will shoot in the course of this quest.
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Trucks, boats, cargo planes, those big crane helicopters?