Hmmph... this junior is a good seed [Cultivation Management Quest]

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Adhoc vote count started by TheCount on Nov 27, 2021 at 11:22 AM, finished with 40 posts and 26 votes.

  • [X] Plan For Hire
    -[X] Dispatch Forces to Strength Purity in line with their request for aid. Maximum possible dispatch for as much wealth as can be feasibly paid to us in exchange.
    --[X] "It almost seems strange, to endlessly send our Legions out to war on the Plains when previously we shunned them to focus on our enemies in the desert. But yet it is not. For we have slain our foes and taken the desert for ourselves, and Strength Purity offers to pay us well, increasing out strength. For though we have slain one of our enemies...Yet still one remains. Waiting to the West for his time to strike at us in a great wave of blood. Let the Clan grow strong and disciplined at the expense of our friends in the Blood Defiance Pact."
    -[X] Manuel - Economic Activity - Carve arrays, scribe useful cultivation techniques onto scrolls, hunt down useful opportunities that might be dangerous to a Core Formation Elder. Make some money for the Clan. This earns you one purchase.
    --[X] "The desert is a hungry thing, as ever. Now most of all does that become apparent as the Clan seeks to consume it whole once and for all, digesting and making it our strength. Though the wealth of Jingshen is indeed staggering, it is not enough to feed our ambitions. So we shall find more wealth to contribute to the feast before us."
    -[X] Kleisthenes - Diplomatic Outreach (Sorrowful Blacksmiths) - They appear to have a problem with a Blood Path rebel at the level of Nascent Soul. One newly ascended to Mid Nascent, locked away in the mountains in fact. Finding things in the Turtlebone Mountain Range and killing Nascent Soul crafters, both of these are things you can do for them. For the right price.
    --[X] "A wise man once said that if you are good at something, never do it for free. Or was that a scoundrel? No matter, there remains a great number of Clan vaults hidden in the mountains beyond our casual reach. In exchange for the slaying of the fallen "Hammer Strikes Anvil Ten Thousand Times Righteously" the Sorrowful Blacksmiths are to assist our Elders with the opening of several such vaults in search of more strength to face this coming Great Era. At the very least, there is one that is most urgently necessary - the Gravebone Panoply we have on record, to better assist the Second Elder in facing her various Trials to come in this chaotic period ahead of us."
    -[X] The Underworld Devil Fortress (Major Purchase - costs 3 Purchases)
    -[X] Assault Gravity Itself (Major Purchase - costs 2 Purchases)
    -[X] Complete Control
    -[X] The Blood of Silver (20 Purchases)
    -[X] The Millennium Oasis Formation (5 Purchases)
    [X] Plan: If Old Cannibal is so predictable, why not bait him?
    -[X] Raiding (Abyssal Bee Sect) - The financial incentive is secondary. The main objective is to bait an enemy Nascent into the desert to die.
    -[X] Kleisthenes - Tend to Diplomacy (Sorrowful Blacksmiths/SPS) (~5 Purchases) - In this conflict only, we are willing to assist to the hilt, especially against the Abyssal Bee Invasion, if the Wei Princess stands ready to intercept Old Cannibal should he take the bait. SPS cannot afford the pass getting cut off by the rebellion. The desert will serve as an escape route if necessary. In return, we desire the Gravebronze Sword and Shield. We will sweeten the deal with up to 5 Purchases.
    -[X] Manuel - Assist a Faction (Sorrowful Blacksmiths(Righteous)) - Prepare the battlefield. Should Old Cannibal take the bait, should Old Altar pursue the Wei Princess into the desert, be ready and make them regret it. The Sorrowful Blacksmiths battlefield is an excellent place for a battle. The defenses are hard, the qi is thin, and Old Cannibal can't pursue an escape into the desert. The information we collect on the Sorrowful Blacksmiths' defenses will not hurt, either.
    [X] The Underworld Devil Fortress (Major Purchase - costs 3 Purchases) -We cannot afford to leave the Underworld Spirit Palace unfortified. We have destroyed its defenses, it is the juiciest target this side of the region, and we cannot spare a Nascent to live in it.
    -[X] Jingshen wealth - Complete Control
    -[X] Jingshen wealth - The Blood of Silver (20 Purchases)
    [X] Plan Maximum Consolidation
    -[X] Write-in (Clan + Kleisthenes): Large-Scale Recruitment.
    --[X] Vassal autonomy was cute when our influence was contested, but times change. Every large city in the Desert is getting a legion garrison, sign-up rewards are doubled, including pieces of Southlands for families and clans looking to convert wholesale, propaganda everywhere all day every day. Klei will pressure prominent individuals and groups to lead by example, parade new Silvers around and suppress discontent.
    -[X] Manuel - Headhunting.
    --[X] Sneak around amongst our immediate neighbours (Yuan, Qiguai, Blacksmith, Magic Oak), identify promising seeds and offer them a chance to roll dice for a bloodline with rank-defying punching power in a rebellion-free land that is stupid rich now. Obviously, erase their memories of the offer if they refuse.
    -[X] The Underworld Devil Fortress (Major Purchase - costs 3 Purchases)
    -[X] Complete Control
    -[X] The Blood of Silver (20 Purchases)
    -[X] The Millennium Oasis Formation (5 Purchases)
 
I'll add this for the sake of diversity... although, I quite like "Plan For Hire" too.

[X] The Great Eastern Alliance
- [X] Building Bridges (Sorrowful Blacksmiths) - Aim to create a power bloc to stabilize the East. Offer an alliance to the Sorrowful Blacksmiths, the Yuan Clan and the Quiguai Clan. For now, focus on the Sorrowful Blacksmiths, offer full support to them in exchange for joining an alliance with. The pass would turn into neutral territory defended by all members of the Alliance, with members states also having access to the facilities in the pass. The toll of the pass would remain to fund the fight against the Blood path, basicly bribing the Yuan and the Quiguai with some share of the desert wealth. In exchange for ceading the pass to the alliance, the Sorrowful Blacksmith sect is to get the whole of the Seven Saber Sect lands when they are reclaimed.
- [X] Manuel - Assist A Faction (Sorrowful Blacksmiths) - Either as a fellow alliance member or as a mercenary.
- [X] Kleisthenes - Assist A Faction (Sorrowful Blacksmiths) - Same as Manuel
- [X] Purchases (2)
-- [X] Send Spirit Stones to the Blacksmiths (1 Purchase)
-- [X] Raise Two Scorpion Legions (1 Purchase)
- [X] Complete Control
- [X] Loot Purchases (25)
-- [X] The Spear and Shield of Bronze (10 Purchases)
-- [X] Nascent Treasures (5 Purchases)
-- [X] The Spirit Railway Cannons (10 Purchases)
 
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So... I'm seeing a thing about the upcoming Trials. I suspect that others have seen it before me, but it seems really pertinent.

From the bits I've picked up along the way, Young Bhrigu is coming. He's coming after the Ninth Prince, yes, but he's also coming specifically after Manuel... and he's coming with the key in hand. Killing him would be great. Somehow wresting the key from him, though... that would end the Trials. Okay, Heaven could decide to create and hand off another key, but I feel like that's the kind of thing that takes more hate than they have left at this point, and would at least spend down that budget pretty severely.

By the way... for my own writing purposes, what kid of access does the clan offer to the arts in the Pavilion? Like, if my character wanted to pick up a few more, what kind of hoops would he have to jump through to get them?
 
By the way... for my own writing purposes, what kid of access does the clan offer to the arts in the Pavilion? Like, if my character wanted to pick up a few more, what kind of hoops would he have to jump through to get them?
My impression is that any and all members of the Optimatoi are permitted to access the Technique Pavillion, because it's intended to be a generalized boost to our Qi Condensation as a whole.

There might be a small obligatory charge in Sect Points tho, to make sure people remain productive.
 
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SPS NEGAVERSE Pre-Turn 13 Interludes - Collaboration with @Insane-Not-Crazy (Lipita)



Interlude: No quiet on the Eastern Front

"Explain it again, from the top." Elder Xi Shi commanded, sticking his pipe between his teeth. The Elder of Intrigue's windowless office was lavishly decorated with expensive rugs and wall-hangings commemorating famous ambushes of Blood Altar forces. On one corner of the large desk, two incense sticks burned away in their bowl.

"Yes, sir." The analyst standing before his desk, Sheng Xin, straightened. "Our reports indicate that the Golden Devil forces have successfully begun laying siege to the Jingshen clan's last and greatest fortress, the Underworld spirit Palace."

"Which means?" Xi Shi leaned back, eyes half-lidded. Waiting for the words to wash over him. Waiting to see how it all connected to the great web in his mind.

"The Underworld Spirit Palace is heavily reinforced and holds both Jinghsen clan Nascents. We should expect the siege to last some time, but barring further extraordinary events, we should treat the war as being essentially over."

"How long do we expect the defences to last?"

"Frankly sir, they should be able to last decades or more. However, with the failure of our prior estimates…" Xin's answer was not encouraging.

"Indeed." Xi Shi's exhaled smoke. "Continue."

"At present, we have heard no major reports of significant explosions in the vicinity of any of the major Jingshen Mines. As such, it is probable that they were captured at least somewhat intact." Xin cleared his throat. "In all sir, while the situation is not desirable for our strategic ambitions, there are potentially significant positives in the immediate term." He cleared his throat again, nervously.

Xi Shi waited impassively; eyes fixed as he puffed away at his pipe.

"Firstly, the incredible pace of the war and the intact capture of the mines means that the spirit stone supply is unlikely to be significantly disrupted by the war, which was a major logistical concern with the new offence."

"Secondly, with the Jingshen nascents besieged, we may be able to negotiate for Junjie and Jiao to come west to us, providing another two Nascent Souls, which are much needed."

"Mmph." The Elder made a sceptical noise. "Would Old Gold be willing to let them go?"

"Sir?" Sheng Xin asked. "I don't understand why he would not? A negotiated end would free him of decades or centuries of grinding siege. Time in which the Jingshen might well resurge. They have much strength still in the fortress and the Devils will have to spread themselves thin to cover their new territory and hold the siege; and if they can last until close to the next winnowing…."

The Elder snorted dismissively.

"Old Gold is no fool." He exhaled again, clouds of smoking darkening the room. "If the Jingshen come to us, they may be a problem for him for centuries to come. Given how we all regret the last… negotiation that let a bested foe of his escape, he will be all the more reluctant to do so again." More smoke drifted about the room, pipe smoke and incense mixing in the air. "He also knows that we face unpleasant odds in the west. If we wish to extract the Jingshen Nascents it will likely be… expensive."

He closed his eyes and sighed.

"Now, to the more important question." Sheng Xin felt the smoke around him as an almost physical presence.

"Tell me Sheng Xin. How were all our estimates so off?" The question thunders through his mind, driving him half to his knees. The smoke chokes at him, clawing at his lungs as if he was a weak and sickly mortal.

"S..i...r." The pressure recedes, but the Elder's eyes are still hard. The smoke is no longer choking, but it still coils about him like shackles.

"Sir." He rasps. He tries to clear his throat, but instead descends into hacking coughs. Eventually he rallies. "Sir. I. I have…" He stammers for a few moments, then recovers.

"Sir. I have identified a number of factors that led to the war ending much faster than anticipated." He stands straighter, staring at the wall a full foot above the sitting Elders head, delivering his report with perfect parade ground posture.

"While I stand by the earlier analyses by my people Elder, the strategic situation has moved fast, and most of our attention has been occupied with the Noble Devil alliance and the rapid rise of the Ancient Blood Demon in the south. The rapid change in the strategic calculus, along with a number of other surprises, led to the war being much shorter than anticipated."

A deep breath, trying not to taste the smoke.

"First, and most importantly, Nascent power. Old Gold has demonstrated significantly greater ability on the offence than previously expected. Despite his performance against the Ancient Blood Devil, it has been felt that Old Gold was an extremely defensively focused Nascent. Extraordinarily dangerous with preparation or on his own land, but with his powers dropping significantly outside prepared ground. Despite this, he took up a much more offensive tempo in the war than we expected."

"Additionally, reports from early in the war suggest that the Golden Devils may have successfully raised a new nascent, concealed from us until now." He paused for a second.

"Within months of the war beginning, the Jingshen early nascent attempted an ambush on Konstantinos, backed by a powerful nascent level spirit cannon. However, Jiao became distracted in eliminating one of the Devil's promising upcomers, and was caught off guard by an ascender's tribulation, unable to escape. With his new strength and the damage inflicted on Jiao for interference with a tribulation, Konstantinos was able to turn back this ambush and wound her."

"At the same time, the heretofore hidden nascent was able stall Junjie Jingshen, the mid-nascent patriarch, preventing him from freely inflicting destruction on the Devil's conventional forces or infrastructure. With Jiao's wounding, Junjie, was unable to challenge the devils lest he face a two to one nascent ambush. This left the Golden Devil nascents free to utilise their abilities to remove obstacles." He took a long breath.

We cannot also ignore the fact that Yao Zhihao of the Flood Dragon Bandits has apparently followed through on her faction's long-standing support for the Golden Devils. The initial assessment already had Nascent parity between the two forces from that alliance, a third Nascent tipped the scales in the Devils' favor. She might not have taken part in the offensive but her very visible presence in the Golden Devil territory means that Old Gold had his backline secured, which we felt was a major reason for his unusual offensive positioning.

"Additionally, whilst the nascent factor was most key, the Golden Devil's new Elder of War appears to have adapted an unusually aggressive andmuch more high mobility strategy, utilising giant Scorpions as cavalry to cover much more ground than a conventional legion would be able to."

Reports from the southern holdings of Jingshen indicate that the Golden Devils managed to subvert one of the vassal territories of the Jingshen, opening up an unexpected Southern front that bypassed the main defense lines established to prevent an attack from the West of Jingshen. The Flood Dragons appear to have lent the cachet of their reputation as Righteous Bandits to win over an unruly mass of barely suppressed bandits and raiders.

"This shift into high mobility warfare, a historical area of weakness for the devils, caught our analysts off guard and allowed a higher than expected operational tempo. Combined with the Jingshen being slow to start up their war machine due to corruption, much territory was taken without the resistance we anticipated."

"Finally, the Devils were reportedly able to turn back at least one trap which might have altered the course of the war through early detection."

Elder Xi Shi digested this, before his posture relaxed fractionally. Smoke began to clear from the room.

"Save their hidden nascent, none of this would be useful in further expansion beyond the desert, correct?"

"Correct, sir."

"So then," The Elder stroked his chin. "How can we improve things so our analyses cannot be so off again?"

"With permission sir, we'd need much greater investment. Our mortal networks are very good, but they were hampered by the trade disruption and both sides seeking out any sound transmission tablet uses due to suspicion of enemy action.

Our contacts among the devils themselves are sparse though. Their bloodline binding ritual enforcing their curse on anyone joining makes finding spies difficult. We have focused on guest elders previously, but with the war we were more inclined to bribe anyone that could be bribed to come West.

As for the Jingshen, their corrupt and competitive internal culture made any information extracted unreliable at best. We spent more time sorti….."

A great surge of qi from the east. Both turn and despite being unable to see the sky, both men feel the presence of a figure in the air. Thunder pealed, and the wrath of Heaven descended, as strong as either had ever felt.

An instant later, blood covered the skies, blotting out lightning and Sun alike.

Bloody Darkness descended.

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Enkidu said:

Clevernamehere said:
Well. That's concerning.
Temporalobe said:
If we wish to extract the Jingshen Nascents it will likely be… expensive."
How expensive is expensive?
Anarchist Lorekeeper said:
Well, let's take a look historically shall we? In the cannibal war, they negotiated 60% of the cannibal lands. 30% of that went to the Stork Clan refugees, but in return they got them as vassals. The Jinghshen got 30% of the lands, and we got 10% to set up buffer zones. We might have been able to negotiate 40%, 40%, 20%.

This also got Old Blood Devil out of the desert with the use of a soulbinding oath, which was a pretty penny for the artefact. And a lot more expensive given what the bastard did afterward too.

I'd guess their big demands would be:
  • Forbid Junjie and Jiao from coming back to the desert at all. Or for at least 500 years. I can't imagine we'd be allowed to get away with 200 again.
    • The tricky thing here would be getting the Jingshen to agree.
  • No sabotage of critical assets on the way out.
  • A large proportion of the wealth the Jingshen are storing in their fortress.
  • Nascent treasures.

Our desires:
  • The Nascents, obviously.
  • Dependants. I can't see this being too much of a problem. I can't imagine the Golden Devils would allow us to denude their new conquests entirely, but getting out the immediate family will at least remove a bunch of their big trouble makers.
  • As much wealth and treasures as they can carry.
  • This is the tricky one, but I think we could get some sort of decent settlement here.
So what cards can we play?
  • Threaten to reinforce the Jingshen with another nascent.
    • Hah. No. The threat would be beyond empty at best and probably tank the negotiations.
  • The bribes. It hurts, it really hurts. But we could let them stop sending massive bribes south for their observer position on the Righteous Council.
  • Wei Ning. The Golden Devils seem to be forming a nascent 4th Great power, but at present they're the only ones lacking a late nascent. Make a binding oath that Wei Ning won't come over the border to ruin their day unless attacked, even after the Noble Devil War is over. Not even in 500 years to help the Jingshen take back their lands.
  • Time. The Devils always have a 100-year countdown clock. When it hits, they're rolling the dice for how badly they get hammered. Emphasise, strongly, the time this gives them to consolidate their new territories.
  • Threaten – Blacksmiths. We've already given the Blacksmiths the ultimatum that they need to join up properly or leave. They're sitting on a bunch of Golden Devil ruins and legacies. Offer some covert help with raids or such. Or just a blind eye, and a promise to ignore anything they do there.
The Eyes have it said:
No touching the bribe money. :mob:

I'm really not convinced the last is a good idea. Focusing on the time aspect seems good. I don't really see much of a downside to agreeing to keep Ning out of the borders unless they come at us either.
Anarchist Lorekeeper said:
The Eyes have it said:
I don't really see much of a downside to agreeing to keep Ning out of the borders unless they come at us either.
The downside is that we're pressuring the rest of the RP to unite behind us, and hating on Golden Devils is one of the national sports. It's going to piss a bunch of people off. It might also be harder to convince the Jingshen to go with our rescue deal as well.

That said, we might be able to quietly point our allies to the fact the oath would bind Ning. Not any hypothetical successor. A few rumors about potential successors, or people pointing out the average lifespans of our Sect's Late Nascent leaders may help quiet things down.

I have no intention of losing Ning, but it is true that past leaders didn't tend to last long. It's 2 full nascent lifespans since soup chef and we've been through 31 Leaders for goodness sake.
I_WANNA_BE_THE_SEED said:
Is no-one going to talk about what happened at the end???
Marinated_in_Brine said:
I love a good panic as much as the next person, but there isn't much to go on until we get more info next post.

It did say it came from the East though. Ancient Blood Devil in his mountains or some god-awful legacy in the Deep Desert, do we think?
Thus_falls_the_Sword_of_Fate said:
Diaxang has been merrily screwing us ever since we let him go. So probably him again.
HATS_OFF said:
Doubt it. Unless he's ascending into Spirit severing I don't think it'd be visible from here. Who could he have even eaten to do that? This is something new.

Please don't let him be ascending to spirit severing.
Enkidu said:
Wasn't there the abyssal bee queen in the mountains? You don't think he could have taken her do you?
Yes said:
I wish you hadn't reminded me that existed.
ShackledSaint said:
Something odd here. I rolled 6 dice on a whim to predict the result of that ending and I got six 1s. That doesn't meant anything? Right guys?

Somebody tell me that everything's going to be okay because my spine is making like and icicle


THE BLOODY SKIES

To her eyes, Bo Chang felt the battle was going well.

Several hundred Foundation Building experts clashed against near equal numbers of Demonic experts, techniques flashing across the battlefield. Reaching out with her senses, she tried again to locate the enemy's two remaining leaders. Mothing, she could feel their presence, but their auras were too spread out amongst the enemy forces to pin down to individuals.

The enemy had begun with three core formations, but she and Chu Chang of the Windswept Leaves school had managed to take one out when he exposed himself to take out a heavy formation of Foundation builders. Chu Chang had bracketed him with the falling Autumn leaves technique, allowing her to blast him with a descending imperial palm technique.

The corpse retrieval teams were already on their way to secure his corpse. With any luck one of his companions would make a play for his body and provide an opening.

Corpse retrieval teams were not, strictly speaking a new idea, but they were one that had become much more important, and been expanded upon, since the rise of the Noble Devil alliance, and the increasing number of righteous cultivators from outside the SPS on the battlefield.

The reasoning was simple. The power of the blood Altar allowed the blood path to consume corpses with no loss of cultivation below nascent soul. It did not matter if they lost ten core formations in a single engagement. So long as their corpses were retrieved, the Blood Altar sect could instantly raise another ten core formations.

Historically, the SPS had focused on their own arts and overwhelming strength. Winning every battle was worth more than a few Altar acolytes escaping with a corpse or two. Especially when the SPS' own arts prevented their dead form being used to strengthen the Blood path.

With the increasing numbers of other righteous path cultivators joining the fight, the calculus had changed. Thus, the concept had been dusted off. Originally, the intention had been to create corpse destruction teams, but it proved quite difficult to destroy a body beyond usefulness to the Blood Altar, and the idea that this might be necessary for even the righteous dead remained deeply unpopular. In light of this, retrieval for later destruction was instead made the main objective.

However, such a duty was highly risky, as it often left the hands of the team members occupied and made the members high value targets to the Demonic forces. Worse the duty was seen as lacking in glory at best or even shameful. Thus, such teams were treated extremely generously in terms of contribution points.

Bo Chang watched carefully as the team made it to the dead core formation, the bodyguarding members of the squad holding off assaults. This was the time of greatest risk. The enemy knew what the team represented, and were likely to either strike at the team itself or try to take advantage of her need to watch them to assault her or Chu Chang directly. If not, then she would begin wiping out their foot soldiers until it either provoked a response or they retreated.

She waited, watching the battles play out in miniature around her. Feeling her subordinates wills clash against the power of the demonic. Felt the will of the Righteous path as a clean sharp blade clashing against the jagged, blood stained edge of the Blood path horde. As the body was loaded up onto a stretcher, she feels as parts of that blade fall away, dying as they slowly grind down that bloody blade. It grieves her, knowing she could save them. Yet the loss is necessary. Intervening now could lead to her own demise, and a battle lost would be far worse.

The body is moving now. The team sprinting back through the Righteous lines. It's nearly fully back to the reserves now, and she gathers her power. The enemy is not coming to her, so she must go to them. Her qi ignites, and amongst the Demoic lines she feels another power rising to answer her. The Sharp and Bloody blades in her mind begin to shine.

Then, suddenly, to the East a great power flares. She turns, and feels the entire battlefield do likewise, helpless to resist this thing that commands attention. An unknown figure is visible in the air for a moment, before she feels the power of heaven, vast and terrible and filled with a killing rage she has never felt.

She has faced tribulations before and the power of Heaven has always been nourishing as well as dangerous. A stern and deadly teacher, but one that gives life to the worthy who pass their trials. No such life giving force is present here. Power enough to crush even the Princess crashed down.

The sky darkens, bloody mist covers the earth in a haze of red...

Lightning deflects from the figure into the earth, the rage of heaven tainted crimson.

ReD
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The sky is full now, bloody clouds occasionally pierced by sanguine lightning reflecting from the great figure.

RED

Twin swords in her mind. One red, jagged, dripping blood and murderous intent. The other clean, sharp and promising a cold and relentless execution. But something is wrong.

The clean blade begins to tarnish. Flakes of metal on the edge begin to rust and fall away, forming into another jagged edge. Cold, relentless intent begins to warm. Pulsing, throbbing, emotion burst forth , no longer cold but a hot, ravening hunger for the blood of the foe. For the blood of the friend.

For Blood, and death, and Power.

She releases her power In an instant. The imperial palm, blasts out ahead of her, turning all in it's path to bloody mist. To her left she feels another power, equal to her own, doing the same.

She breathes in the bloody air, tasting the copper on her tongue. It isn't enough. Another great power rises across from her. Her foe, her prey. One whose blood could offer her true power, not the dregs of those who became this bloody rain.

She reaches out again with the imperial palm, now blood red. It is met in mid air by a gigantic finger of blood. Fool, do they not know that their arts cannot stand before the might of a
Righteous warrior?

Power flares far behind her, in the old lines. She cursed. Of course, the body. She should have gone there first. Not that it matters. A fresh ascendant? She'd finish her meal here, then take them too.

Another palm, and another. Met by bloody fingers, but each time, the fingers weaken. Her imperial palm comes closer. They cannot stand before the
Purity of her technique. Again, and again, until her foe is crushed beneath her power. She walks closer, seeing their terrified features, held beneath the giant translucent palm. An old man, long sideburns and goatee dyed red. Colour, not blood. How pathetic. He opens his mouth to beg, and your aura looms larger. He's speaking rapidly now, raving. She places a boot upon his chest, her foot sinking through her own technique.

Another flare of power behind, like the susurration of wind through the trees. New blood flares and gutters back.

Blood falls from his lips as sharpened, pointed teeth catch on his own tongue. She licked her own lips. Perhaps she'd take that tongue first. Why bother begging after all? She'd never spared any of the
Blood Pat-

She comes back to herself, waking from a dream. Around her the battlefield is a blood frenzy.

Half the battlefield is on the ground, biting and tearing at their foes, blood dripping from their faces. She sees young Honoured Root of the Sleeping Forest sect lapping at the blood of a foe he'd impaled on a new grown tree. A demonic cultivator (are they all demonic cultivators now?) lifts the leg of a paralysed opponent, pulls their boot off and bites at their toes.
Scenes of horror surround her in all directions. The cries of the battlefield turned into a cacophony of sleeping and chewing against the backdrop of pain. (What can she do? What can she do).

Laughter from the earth. The monster beneath her boot is laughing at her. No longer begging for his pathetic life but LAUGHING AT HER.

"What's the matter girlie? An attack of squeamishness? That blood rain you bathed in not-" Her foot crushes his skull.

No. There is plenty she can do. She clasps her hands, gathering her qi. First, hold them. Stop them from enacting the madness they are infected with. The imprisoning palm, for an entire battlefield. Justice of the Imperial seat: One Thousand Imprisoning palms. He power double, the redoubles. Her power is distant, weaker. She feels her channels straining at the cost. Too much, far too much even for a technique of this scale. But it must be borne.

She leaps, ready to deliver justice from above.

Ten Thousand Autumn leaves rise to meet her.

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Overhead, the blood mist gleams. Above the bloody battlefield where brother turns on sister. Above the world where the Righteous become the ruined. It glistens as kin feed on kin, as allies turn on each other, and beneath it's glow even the strongest may be found to be weak in will.

The mist waits in the skies. The wrath of heaven deflected again and again from the figure in the skies. Until with a final terrible crack of thunder deflected, the figure in the skies vanished.

The clouds wait. Their gleam tainting the earth. Then light descends.

For the first time in 10,000 years Qi falls to the earth. Light burns away the clouds. Shining treasures fall in shining beams of light. And above it all, shining more brilliant than the brightest treasure, are four characters.

天下万物

The Heavens had come.

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AN: Behold, the Fruits of your labour. Stick around there's more.

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Enkidu said:
YES said:
ACMEXPLOSIONS said:
Thus_falls_the_Sword_of_Fate said:
Ok, ok it's ok. I'm just a bit absolutely terrified. It's fine.

Heaven's back. That means everything is fine. Right. RIGHT?
Maximum Paranoia said:
I don't like this:
Temporallobe said:
It glistens as kin feed on kin, as allies turn on each other, and beneath it's glow even the strongest may be found to be weak in will.
I don't like this at all. What does this mean? I mean sure we just saw our core formations go crazy. But that's ok. We've got 400 of them. That's fine. That's ok. I'm sure it doesn't mean anything more than that.

I'm sure it doesn't actually mean what I think it means, right?
Marinated in Brine said:
Maximum Paranoia said:
I'm sure it doesn't actually mean what I think it means, right?
Well…
Temporallobe said:
Stick around there's more.
Yeah. I think it's time to PANIC.
The Collective Unconscious said:
Excellent Idea. *Slams panic button*

🔴🖐🖐🖐

Easily Attached said:
Did… did Chang live?
Temporallobe said:
Easily Attached said:
Did… did Chang live?
….Yyyeeeesss.
Well. Someone named Chang lived anyway.
Enkidu said:
….
You monster. I regret halloween has passed so I can't give the appropriate reaction.

Take my funny.
Faildspotcheck said:
What does this actually mean?
Temporallobe said:
ThepowrofGoogl said:
According to the mighty translation algorithm:
All under Heaven.

Also, next time, just search it
Na na na na na na HATMAN said:
So… Who was the mysterious figure?
RealityHater said:
Given the lightning was described as enough to flatten Ning, followed by the Blood clouds, could it have been someone ascending from the blood path to Spirit Severing?
Anarchistic_Lorekeeper said:
Maybe, but why would that trigger heaven? Spirit severings basically have to leave the sea or be sucked dry by the Qi differential. And all the other seas are still alive, so they have people above spirit severing that can swallow the blood path whole.

Sending down qi in response makes no sense, since it means they could possibly stay to get stronger rather than stay and die or leave and get stomped.
Na na na na na na HATMAN said:
On the other hand, Heaven is implied to be more akin to a bunch of automatic processes than something thinking. "Big threat detected, trigger great era" might be standard. I doubt the Heavenly processes were built to account for a dead turtle child.
Anarchistic_Lorekeeper said:
That's true, but the heavens did stop sending qi when the Turtle Child died. So clearly some procedures exist.

Granted, though they might not account for a big threat arising on a dead zone since well, how could it with a lack of Qi.
TheDevilandtheDeepBlue said:
It came from the east. So it could be the Golden Devils, could be the blacksmiths finding some horrible in the Golden Devil Ruins. Probably isn't the Bee queen, since that wouldn't be blood path, which this whole thing reeks of.
Marinated in Brine said:
Still betting on horrible blood path legacy.
Thus_falls_the_Sword_of_Fate said:
Dixang discovering a horrible blood path legacy?
Alltheseclevernames said:
Bleh. Please not more of him.

Bet it's soup chef bullshit again.
Lost LikeTears in rain said:
Please no. The Altar's bad enough.
Enkidu said:
Alltheseclevernames said:
Bleh. Please not more of him.
Weekly reminder that Glorious Strike has not been punished enough.

Lost LikeTears in rain said:
Please no. The Altar's bad enough.
On the other hand the compass went off again. Maybe this is to do with that plotline finally paying off?
Na na na na na na HATMAN said:
Ugh. I'm so nervous to see what we lost.

The Victor and the Grave

[SEE MAIN THREADMARK: INTERLUDE: THE WEI PRINCESS]

AN: Good news. With Heaven Awake we have entered a great era. All Qi Condensation juniors will roll an additional 1d21-1 cultivation roll. Additionally, Heavenly Treasures are available. Mechanically, these will only be found in secret realms, but offer power and more importantly, plot relevance.

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Na na na na na na HATMAN said:
God, I love Ning. She's absolutely my favourite character.
AXEOMATIC said:
The Altar is gone. Really gone. What?!
Enkidu said:
Soo.. we've... won? No more seeds?
Pokingatthings said:
"You're the idiot who didn't teach me how to scheme in the first place! Absolute strength is all well and good but it's not like you can just beat everyone up like that big dummy from the desert! That moron died and if I acted like him I'd die too!
So who was the desert moron?
Anarchist Lorekeeper said:
Pokingatthings said:
So who was the desert moron?
Previous Golden Devil leader. Super strong, got murdered via young master artefact during their temporing trials. Replaced by their current leader, Sneaky Mcambush
TheSaltFactory said:
"I should beat them up again...", she mused.
Aaw. Don't be sad Ning. You can always go help Elder Glorious Strike understand conceptual regret.

Again.
To_reign_over_Heaven said:
What is it with you people and Glorious Strike?
Enkidu said:
She knows what she did.
Temporalobe said:
Enkidu said:
Not quite, but you're in the endgame. That said, this cost you. A lot. A full accounting will be in a later post, but suffice to say this is the endgame. You have a chance to really win, but it will be an uphill battle.

Well, sort of. Technically you could call this a win, and it is. Even if you died right now, you achieved the long held objective of your Sect. But it isn't the end of the quest.

You may have wanted the Altar, but the Altar Lord was always playing his own game.
Notagain said:
I think I speak for everyone when I say. Panic button?

Panic button.

🔴🖐🖐🖐


The Lord of Sacrifice

[SEE MAIN THREADMARK: THE ALTAR AND THE LORD]

AN: You may commence screaming.... now.

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Notagain said:
Temporalobe said:
AN: You may commence screaming now.
Thank you, I will.

AHHHHHH.
Enkidu said:
Ok. Ok.

So, Altar Lord destroyed the Blood Altar intentionally, himself.

But what I don't get is: even if theTurle Shell wounded the blood Altar magnificently and it's been bleeding power ever since, I thought it still had enough power to kill hundreds of Nascents. It was going to be centuries until it was weak enough to truly destroy.

So, terrible as the mists are, with all that stored power it doesn't seem enough? Was the tribulation that powerful? Have we missed something?

Temporalobe said:
Altar Lord did three things with that Power. You haven't seen all of them yet.
ACMEXPLOSIONS said:
Thenorhc said:
Na na na na na na HATMAN said:
Marinated_in_Brine said:
No offense Enkidu but I kind of hate you right now.
Enkidu said:
Marinated_in_Brine said:
No offense Enkidu but I kind of hate you right now.
Yeah. Me too.
Dissatisfied said:
Don't you think this is a bit much temporal?
Temporalobe said:
Not really. As Ning said, even if your sect is destroyed. You would still have won a great victory.

Beyond that, Altar Lord said it himself, with the coming of a great era the righteous path have won. Under the will of heaven you can grind your way to victory even with crushing losses.

Your disciples can cultivate faster, and there are heavenly treasures for your juniors (or seeds) to find which could grant incredible power.

You could just grind your way to victory in a few dozen turns. But this is the endgame, I don't expect my players would be satisfied with a simple grinding victory. I think you'll want to win.


The Accounting

Elder Xi Shin felt like a condemned man marching to his execution as he presented himself before the Righteous Council of the Strength Purity Sect. Harkening back to distant origins in the Grand Wei Dynasty, the meeting hall of the gathered elders of the Strength Purity Sect was fashioned in the manner of a royal throne room hosting a noble court in attendance. At the end of the room was the tiered dais where the Nascent lords of the Scale-Blood Sea's Nine Islands were seated elevated above the assembly with the Wei Princess set apart alone on the highest tier on a simple throne of carved wood.

Spread out to the sides of the dais like avian wings, the host of elders looked on silently as he marched up the carpet to the foot of the dais and bowed once to each subordinate Nascent Soul and three times to the Holy Justice Maiden herself.

"Report," She said quickly, twining blond locks around an idle finger and tapping her left foot against the floor. The Late Nascent head of the strongest power in the Righteous Path at present looked deceptively at ease, left leg bouncing in the air crossed over right. Stilling his hand's instinctive reach for his pipe to calm his nerves, Xi Shin knew better than to accept the facade as truth, the genuine exuberance of her character going hand in hand with a ruthlessness backed by terrifying power. Certain elders waiting hand and foot on a mere Foundation Expert of the Golden Devils for their unwise daring were experiencing a playful reminder of that fact.

Even had that memory not been enough, the dainty hand that was worrying at the hand rest of her seat, gouging the substance of it, was proof enough of the gulf that spanned between him and his liege lord. Properly cured wood from a Ten-Thousand Year Celestial Redwood could withstand without blemish anything he could throw at it as a Core Formation elder of substantial martial achievement among a sect of accomplished combatants.

Without wasting time, he launched into his report. "As you all well know, our coalition of Righteous Powers has come under severe attack from Blood Path influence and the balance of power has changed drastically, not in our favor. Reports from our assets across the region as analysed by the Glorious Sixty-Two indicate that the initiating event was most likely the Single-Pillar tribulation of a junior of the Golden Devils, Gaius Antonius. It is not known what exactly distinguished this particular breakthrough from the six other successes in recent history, five of those also being by the same Golden Devils.

Whatever the trigger, we have confirmation that the Will residing in the Demonic Altar latched onto the tribulation and worked its power across the region, covering the heavens in mists of blood and seeking to corrupt all witnesses below to the Blood Path."

To the sides, he could hear a flurry of movement among his peer elders as bitter recollection of recent tragedy no doubt stung at fresh wounds. He did not let his attention move away from his primary audience to look at the missing fingers of his hand and continued apace.

"We are all aware of the sorrow that followed. Blood lust and madness flowered across the land. Men and women run amok, killing and consuming in cannibalistic frenzy. Gemstone Justice and the Yu clan lie broken at the hands of the renegade Ma and Chuan heads respectively. These two traitors have joined allegiance with the two axes of Demonic hegemony in the Green Scale Plains, Ma to the Noble Devil Alliance and Chuan to the Alliance of powers under the former Abyssal Devil Bee sect, now termed the Grand Abyssal Invasion.

The powers of the Hard Shell Mountains are dealing with Blood Path rebellions as well, with the Sorrowful Blacksmiths struggling to hold off a takeover by the former junior elder of the sect newly empowered to Mid Nascent in his defilement, while the Qiguai and Yuan clans are occupied with suppressing less potent insurrections. Notwithstanding the losses of two entire factions, the Seven Divine Saber Palace and Joyful Blacksmiths have lost much territory to an opportunistic expansion of the Grand Abyssal Invasion. Losses from rebellion and consumption across the plains and mountains are heavy, reaching as many one fifth in some cases among our allies."

The information he was presenting was not exactly new to anyone here but the stark reality of it presented so frankly stilled the air. Grimly he pressed on with what would have been unprecedented information in any other time. "Unfortunately, I must also announce that the Jingshen clan has been wholly conquered by the Golden Devils, their Nascent Souls killed and all holdings seized. Inquiries from their observer to the Council of Righteous Powers have not proven illuminating as to how this feat was achieved in the incredibly short timespan of just over a decade of open warfare. At present, our best estimation is that a combination of unleashed reserve strength and very auspicious timing are the cause."

Princess Facesmashing Dominator stilled in her seat and her attention exerted an incredible weight upon Xi Shin's shoulders that he bore stoically in silence. Addressing him, she slowly drawled in question, "Do you have reason to believe that the Golden Devils and the Demonic Altar were allied in this event?"

A terrible question to have to contemplate knowing what he did about the strategic picture of the region but thankfully one he'd prepared for and found a satisfactory answer. Standing tall and unshaken, he answered loudly. "All indications are that there was no collusion between the two factions, despite their shared distance from the Righteous Path. The Golden Devils are loudly proclaiming their continued aversion for the Blood Path and its adherents, a stance which myself and the analysts under me hold to be genuine. They have sworn themselves to maintain the integrity of the Spirit Stone trade and support the righteous forces of the Great Battlefield."

Nodding gently at his response, Wei Ning waved at him to continue. It probably helped sell the conviction of his reply that that line of questioning had been theatre arranged beforehand with the Princess. He was sure the watching elders knew so as well but that was how the game was played. In like manner, after delivering the bad news, it was time to offer the good.

"However, there is good fortune even in these times. The heavens have declared a Great Era, writ in the very skies and refreshed the spiritual energies of the region. We are already seeing juniors benefiting from the extra support in their advancement. The Yuan and Qiguai clans also report that their secret realms are flush with power and stand accessible continuously. In addition, the beneficence of the heavens has extended to the provision of superlative treasures that combined with the bounty of atmospheric qi allow their recipients to leap up the realms. Finally, it is the united conclusion of the Glorious Sixty-Two that taking the strength Demonic Altar has expended in this gambit combined with the damage inflicted by your own efforts, my Princess, the Altar is irreparably consumed and extinguished."

That final note was an almost unbelievable declaration. Bowing once again, he stepped back from the dais and stood at attention. The Wei Princess waved languidly at the gathered cultivators, given leave to the various elders to give voice to their thoughts.

There was going to be a long discussion and as the mouthpiece of much of the information presented he was going to be fielding inquiries and challenges for a while. He remained perfectly in position, not turning an inch in any direction, as much for propriety's sake as to avoid the temptation to look behind him. He'd looked before and there was no one there, yet still he felt the gaze of Sheng Xin upon the nape of his neck. His missing fingers still tingled where they'd been bitten off at the knuckles as he'd smashed through teeth and skull.

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ShackledSaint said:
Welp, that's done. I knew the dice were trying to tell us something but I did not believe it could get this bad. I'm gonna go cry in the corner a bit
Clevernamehere said:
This absolutely did not age well at all.
Temporalobe said:
If we wish to extract the Jingshen Nascents it will likely be… expensive."
I guess I don't have to worry about the cost of saving a pair of limp wristed idiots who couldn't even last a decade and half in an existential war on their own turf. Seriously even Child Corpse Gulper required two Mid Nascents to gang up on him and he was an overambitious brat who got too big for his britches
The Eyes have it said:
Clevernamehere said:
a pair of limp wristed idiots who couldn't even last a decade and half in an existential war on their own turf.
Huh… I guess there actually was something to those suspicions that Old Jingshen was hiding a vulnerability. No wonder they wanted 4 Nascents to take on Old Gold on his lonesome.

But seriously, that dumpster fire is nothing compared to the nuclear meltdown these Blood Mists appear to have caused. It looks like we're down 5 Nascents total and the Demonic Powers gained 3 new Nascents. Let's not even go into the fact that Chuan clan got cannibalized by their head, Gemstone and Yu straight up got gutted, oh and to garnish it all the force in charge of the transit between the Plains and the Desert where all that Spirit Stone we need is on the brink of takeover by Blood Path rebellion.

I'm not superstitious but I'm feeling a mighty urge to dig around my yard looking for buried earthenware pots with blood offerings to fetish idols. Our luck is just that bad
Temporalobe said:
I'll be honest I'm as surprised as you at the outcome. Let's just say that one Nascent flipping required remarkably bad odds. You got 3, two of whom were in unfortunately tragic positioning.
It's not all bad though. The Heavens always provide a way. Besides, the great goal of the Strength Purity Sect has been accomplished. The Demonic Altar is kaput

Na na na na na na HATMAN said:
Deep breaths. Ok, it's bad but there are still options. Analysis coming soon.
Monkeyswithtypewriters said:
Guys, I have a proposed write in for the council turn.
  • Queen Takes Pawn.
The Altar Lord has revealed his endgame. Thanks to the work of Xi Shin, you know the identity of the mysterious figure in the lightning. You can guess the identities of his pawns. Take them out. Now.
  • Pro's: Scuppers Altar Lord's Plans.
  • Cons - May not get all of them
Thenorhc said:
Lol. No this is suicide.
DeepThought said:
Yes said:
Because it puts us in immediate War with the Golden Devils.
  1. Ning is badly injured. So Ambush Mcambush may actually stand a chance of killing her since he was somehow able to 2v1 the Jingshen early and mid.
  2. I doubt they keep all the "Pawns" in one place, so there is a good chance we miss some.
    1. If we do, we may be doing a "Protagonists hometown/sect is destroyed. They flee to power level and revenge" and driving them into doing what Altar Lord wants.
  3. Even if both of the above succeed, cutting off the spirit stone trade right now will kill us and the remains of the RP. Since this is guaranteed to happen if we pick this, it is essentially elaborate suicide.
Na na na na na na HATMAN said:
Analysis Time:

Ok, it's bad, but it could be worse. What do we need to do next turn? Let's do some analysis:

Golden Devils. This is really high priority. Firstly, because Altar Lord's 5 Pawns lines up startlingly well with the 5 Single Pillars this update mentions. We need intel and we need it now. Secondly, because we need the spirit stone supply to remain constant to keep up any sort of war tempo.

Sorrowful Blacksmiths: Again, this is a big concern for us. With the increase in Qi to our frankly absurd home lands we can probably turtle up fairly well. Without this supply line and spirit stones though, we can't easily go on the offensive.

Great Mountain Bell: They're a strong ally, and they're surrounded by the Noble Demon alliance and the Ma clan at the Moment.
The Yuan and Qiguai clan's are probably not in too much trouble, as they're neutral and sell very valuable secret realm access. While it would be great to get them on-side it's not a priority at the moment.

We do need to look to the south at some point, since it's the regional breadbasket but at present I'm afraid we're going to have to leave it. If we can afford it in a few turns though when she's healed though, sending Ning here is a good idea. As an experienced and absurdly powerful Late Nascent she should stomp all over Dixang, even with another mid-nascent in Old Fish to help.

AnEternity said:
Guys, do you remember a couple of turns back where we got word that the Devil's had had light losses in their tribulation? There was mention of one Fifth Sea cultivator absolutely dumping in their guys. Temporallobe hinted that there was an uncommon player involved "chosen by heaven". I think that person had one of the treasures we're supposed to be seeing now. The Devils are ludicrously tough in the defense so if just one cultivator with this aid could wreck them, I can't wait to see what our juniors rain down on the Blood Path

ACMEXPLOSIONS said:
Yeah. Honestly I can't wait to see what that looks like.



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AN: Phew. 7726 Words. A massive thankyou to my collab @Insane-Not-Crazy who wrote the entirety of "The Accounting" and many of the responses to it, as well as various other sections.

Another big thank you to everyone in the discord who helped provide betaing services and clear up some of my grammar and syntax errors. And as ever, to Occipitallobe, who inspired all of this.

Final note: SV's text editor is the true final boss.
 
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What you perceive as "drumming up opposition"
You seriously need to stop making assumptions about my thought process

That's twice now you've done so both publicly and to hilariously inaccurate effect.

I was calling you out on apparent presumption when I had already asked Occi about it. You simply don't make that decision; they do.

And as I said repeatedly elsewhere and in the actual vote, if I'm wrong then I'll adjust to compensate. You telling me what my write in was supposed to look like simply was unsolicited advice you aren't actually in a position to give.
 
[X] Plan For Hire

I have warm up to the bullshit that is silver blood now that I thought this more carefully.

And I wanted full control of the other clan. so I am happy :D
 
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You seriously need to stop making assumptions about my thought process

That's twice now you've done so both publicly and to hilariously inaccurate effect.

I was calling you out on apparent presumption when I had already asked Occi about it. You simply don't make that decision; they do.

And as I said repeatedly elsewhere and in the actual vote, if I'm wrong then I'll adjust to compensate. You telling me what my write in was supposed to look like simply was unsolicited advice you aren't actually in a position to give.
I don't even know what your problem is at this point - apparently people aren't allowed to critique your plans? I never said what your write in was "supposed" to look like, I was pointing out that QM clarification would've been good, since deficit spending is new and it wasn't 100% confirmed if Write-ins are valid for that (deficit). If it's not, then it just needs to be tweaked, no big deal.

As for assuming your thought process, I was directly quoting your exact words because I find it bizarre that you immediately jumped to painting any discussion of your plan's feasibility as [sic] "drumming up opposition".

Like, how else do you want people to engage with your plans? Genuinely curious why this is triggering you.
 
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I don't even know what your problem is at this point - apparently people aren't allowed to critique your plans?
...Of course they are?

Am I not allowed to say anything back?

If you read the previously referred to vote post, you'll see that I thanked other people for pointing out my formatting error with the Nascent Actions and made note of my editing in the corrections

The difference between your comments and theirs is that their criticisms were warranted, on the mark, and thus welcome because of a genuine mistake I had made.
As for assuming your thought process, I was directly quoting your exact words because I find it bizarre that you immediately jumped to painting any discussion of your plan's feasibility as [sic] "drumming up opposition".
You mean the discord conversation where I also displayed how your thought process was based off the faulty assumption that any assassination action somehow intrinsically required Yao's presence in order to engage it? Which is why "people should take that into account" when considering my plan before I'd even posted it?

Not ten minutes after I'd already answered another couple of questions for you without any acrimony whatsoever?

Because those are two separate conversations, and what I was referring to with you being wrong twice.
 
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...Of course they are?

Am I not allowed to say anything back?

If you read the previously referred to vote post, you'll see that I thanked other people for pointing out my formatting error with the Nascent Actions and made note of my editing in the corrections

The difference between your comments and theirs is that their criticisms were warranted, on the mark, and thus welcome because of a genuine mistake I had made.
You could keep things polite and just say you've asked the QM for confirmation, instead of immediately flinging accusations of "presumption" regarding a post that was requesting further clarification.

For some reason, you jumped to the twisted conclusion that I was telling you what's correct, when it was the complete opposite.
 
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You could keep things polite and just say you've asked for confirmation instead of immediately flinging accusations of "presumption" because I quite honestly don't see anything wrong with confirming details.
That requires an extension of good faith you'd already done a decent job of knee capping earlier in the day, you realize.

And I already attempted to confirm details with Occi. You saw me do so, in fact.

Hence why I saw that post of yours and went "what the heck is this guy thinking...? He knows I'm already waiting on Occi to confirm one way or the other, right?"
 
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That requires an extension of good faith you'd already done a decent job of knee capping earlier in the day, you realize.

And I already attempted to confirm details with Occi. You saw me do so, in fact.

Hence why I saw that post of yours and went "what the heck is this guy thinking...?"
And that goes back to my earlier question of how exactly do you expect people to engage with your plans, when you perceive any discussion of potential flaws as being in bad faith? That's just ridiculous and I still don't get why you got triggered about the minor nitpicks earlier on Discord.

And for the record, no I hadn't seen you confirm details when I made that post. It's up in the air whether you believe that or not, since you might still jump to conclusions.
 
And that goes back to my earlier question of how exactly do you expect people to engage with your plans, when you perceive any discussion of potential flaws as being in bad faith?
I dont know why you keep conflating yourself with "everyone else" when I keep on citing an example of people criticizing my plan and my adjusting it in good cheer with my thanks for said correction. Right before you chimed in, no less.

You are not everyone.

Please stop confusing yourself for speaking for everyone elses individual experience. I deal in good faith as a first expectation with everyone.

You, specifically, flew in the face of that policy so naturally I'm not so free with trusting you now. Other people havent, so they get the benefit of the doubt.

It's as simple as that.
 
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So! There's been a request made to outsource the "Good Seed to Read" reports for this turn gone by, and as one who never passes up any opportunity to contribute to the story, I've taken up this charge!

And after great consideration, I'd like to nominate @Humbaba's Wei Feng for consideration!

It's somewhat of an unorthodox choice, I'll admit--he's not one of the players who's regularly churning out thousands of words of narrative for his Good Seed per turn, and you know what? That's Okay! We have literally millions of words of people who are contributing a solid narrative to their own stories, and then there's this undying phoenixboi who defies the normal narrative you'd expect from someone of his ability. He rose to Foundation Establishment after reaching the 12th Heavenstage of Qi Condensation, the high-point of his career being one of the key players of the Stand at Pleuron which left him a boiled, mushy wreck of a human being, despite being instrumental in ensuring the payload got to the target on time.

Then he flexed hard enough to snap his bonds, rose from his own ashes, and went from strength to strength after entering Foundation Establishment, rocketing through the Great Realm as one of the Clan's top juniors. When Kalki and his cohort came to the Third Sea off the back of the Trials in turn 10, he stood against the aspiring Single Pillar King and threw down against him, defying the Single Pillar's suppression again and again. Sure he kept getting tenderized, but the important thing is that he kept getting back up.

He has become--in effect--the Golden Devil Clan's undying shield. And as of the events of the previous turn? Now he explodes every time he regenerates as well, as though merely getting back up every time someone pounds him into dust wasn't good enough.

Some might ask me though "Yes, this is all well and good, but how much narrative content has he produced?"

In my humble perspective? "Who cares?" He still provides narrative from time to time--chiefly in collaborations of course, which is just as viable an approach as any other. But more importantly, he proves the rule that one doesn't need to produce a traditional narrative arc in order to get good results. Weird wacky negaverses? Alternate Universe discussions? Going on a meta level and treating this Quest like a television show, or a video game and posting responses? This too, is content!, and the beauty of Good Seed Quest is that all forms of content are welcome.

And Wei Feng's success proves that as long as you write to your strengths and persevere, anyone can rise to be one of the Clan's brightest stars. Any creative content is welcome! It's a wonderful environment for the most part, and the more we have, the merrier!
 
So! There's been a request made to outsource the "Good Seed to Read" reports for this turn gone by, and as one who never passes up any opportunity to contribute to the story, I've taken up this charge!

And after great consideration, I'd like to nominate @Humbaba's Wei Feng for consideration!

It's somewhat of an unorthodox choice, I'll admit--he's not one of the players who's regularly churning out thousands of words of narrative for his Good Seed per turn, and you know what? That's Okay! We have literally millions of words of people who are contributing a solid narrative to their own stories, and then there's this undying phoenixboi who defies the normal narrative you'd expect from someone of his ability. He rose to Foundation Establishment after reaching the 12th Heavenstage of Qi Condensation, the high-point of his career being one of the key players of the Stand at Pleuron which left him a boiled, mushy wreck of a human being, despite being instrumental in ensuring the payload got to the target on time.

Then he flexed hard enough to snap his bonds, rose from his own ashes, and went from strength to strength after entering Foundation Establishment, rocketing through the Great Realm as one of the Clan's top juniors. When Kalki and his cohort came to the Third Sea off the back of the Trials in turn 10, he stood against the aspiring Single Pillar King and threw down against him, defying the Single Pillar's suppression again and again. Sure he kept getting tenderized, but the important thing is that he kept getting back up.

He has become--in effect--the Golden Devil Clan's undying shield. And as of the events of the previous turn? Now he explodes every time he regenerates as well, as though merely getting back up every time someone pounds him into dust wasn't good enough.

Some might ask me though "Yes, this is all well and good, but how much narrative content has he produced?"

In my humble perspective? "Who cares?" He still provides narrative from time to time--chiefly in collaborations of course, which is just as viable an approach as any other. But more importantly, he proves the rule that one doesn't need to produce a traditional narrative arc in order to get good results. Weird wacky negaverses? Alternate Universe discussions? Going on a meta level and treating this Quest like a television show, or a video game and posting responses? This too, is content!, and the beauty of Good Seed Quest is that all forms of content are welcome.

And Wei Feng's success proves that as long as you write to your strengths and persevere, anyone can rise to be one of the Clan's brightest stars. Any creative content is welcome! It's a wonderful environment for the most part, and the more we have, the merrier!
Er…
Sorry to deflate you, but we're actually supposed to post these in a wiki page, not the thread. Unless I'm misunderstanding something.
 
first mentioned your plan by directly pinging you asking for clarification
You pinged me in #Plot Discussions, then after I answered your questions you took your weird conclusions and tried grabbing a bunch of peoples attention in #Good Seed Discussions around ten minutes later.

I actually discussed the matter with Occi in private and voiced my concerns with your behavior and he informed me that regardless of what you were saying, he felt my aggressive response to you was the more serious issue.

Like take this for example, you're blatantly misrepresenting how that course of events went down. If I wasn't mobile posting from work I'd actually take screenshots proving that wasnt the case, but anyone who is on the discord can check for themselves

Honestly.

You're going this far to try and paint yourself as some innocent victim so as to cause a stink over the fact that I dont trust you, and you're acting like this is some kind of wholly unwarranted thing in the face of your own drastic and wholly inappropriate escalation?

I dont like you and I dont trust you. Behaving like this just shows everyone why that is the case.

I guess I should be thanking you for saving me the trouble of having to present evidence to justify a personal opinion. That you're doing it in such misleading manner (constantly) just further justifies my take.

You're blatantly overreacting while accusing me of.toxicity. Does the irony not register, or something?

Your attempted explanations didn't even help resolve the debate because you fixated on a completely different tangent.
You were telling people.what the intent of my.plan was and Kaboom was asking me what my plan was while you tried to insist on speaking for me.

I...

You're really using out of context snippets to claim that you werent acting like that?

I'm honestly.just confused at this point. Of course I'm going to ask you to be quiet while I was answering Kabooms question on what I was planning.

Just...really?
 
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Gaius Antonius 74 - Leaving the Ordinary World
Gaius Antonius Omake #74: The Day of Fate, Part 3: Leaving the Ordinary World​

On the seventh floor, Gaius came upon a surprisingly familiar sight. Anyone who travelled to the Simmering Soup Sect's lands would immediately recognize the look and coloration of their specific breed of Mushroom Men. In particular, this species was notable for being not spirit beasts, but a particularly intelligent strain of fungus which sometimes budded off self-aware individuals, who would then cultivate.

And so, it was not unthinkable that, in a roughly circular chamber a hundred feet across - a common type of room which Gaius would later term the 'Arena Configuration', three Mushroom men stood. One was short and squat and festooned in belts loaded with glass vials, another stood at eight feet tall and carried a large wooden club in one brawny hand, and a third was a midpoint in height between the other two, was much thinner and wore a coat lined with many inner pockets.

Three enemies, all, by Gaius' estimate, at the Fifth Heavenstage. Roughly appropriate for the seventh floor, he supposed. And given their differing appearances, he could imagine they all fought in different, complimentary ways too. Fun! Just like the simulations back in the academy.

The academy, eh? Now that was a very, very long time ago. Back when Gaius was one soldier among many, searching for his place in the world. Even after his talent made itself known, he'd still just been an ordinary legionnaire, struggling to survive on the vicious battlefields against the Blood Cannibals.

"Maybe I ought to pay my respects." Gaius mused, cracking his neck and drawing a sword. "I'll play with you three for a while." With that, he leapt into battle.

The big mushroom interposed itself between Gaius and its compatriots before he could reach, blocking his sword with its club and beginning an exchange of strikes, which Gaius soon won in about five moves, ducking under a swing and slashing his enemy across the flank. Before The Seeker could follow up, he spotted a tendril of yellow gas closing in from behind and dashed to the side before it could ensnare him.

As if the deep wound was merely a little cut, the large mushroom-man regained its poise and took a defensive stance, ready to intercept other attacks, while the poisoner waved its hands, calling back its deadly concoction. That made sense; they were mushrooms after all. Simpler organisms are harder to kill than complex ones.

"You're a pretty good shot. Perhaps you do have some intelligence." Gaius called out, before sinking into the ground to avoid another yellow cloud. In a flash, he popped back out behind the humanoid fungus, impaling it through the back. Rather than follow up, he leapt back, and the club of the larger mushroom man crashed into the ground where he had been standing.

A poison artist, a body artist and an array-smith, all in the Fifth Heavenstage. Gaius got the idea; as most Cultivators never exceeded the Fifth, this trio represented a small group of ordinary cultivators. This was the sort of adventuring party one could find in the hundreds in any country, equipped to cover for each other's weaknesses and fight as a team.

In order to beat this trio, an entrant had to prove that they, by themself, were superior to such a group. A one-man squad, an exceptional Cultivator who stood above the masses. Simplicity itself.

The array-smith conjured fists made from stone and launched them at Gaius. In response, he conjured an Aegis large enough to catch and envelop them all, then turned, flinging the barrage at the body artist. With the big lug occupied, Gaius tossed Scylla's tank at the poison artist, who was forming another toxic cloud. The Sacred Carp leapt out of the water and spat out a dense, white fireball, intercepting the blast and setting the chemicals alight.

As the poison artist burned to death in its own concoction, Gaius dug his feet into the ground for greater speed, dodging fire, stone fists, sharp crystals and magical chains. However, before Gaius could close in, the array-smith pulled out one final slip and slammed its palms to the ground, spreading a thick layer of ice and trapping Gaius' feet.

Summoning an Aegis in one hand to block the Smith's incoming attacks - continuous streams of water, moving fast enough to cut through bone - Gaius raised his sword in a reverse grip with his other, blocking several of the melee figher's swings. Redirecting a stream was a lot harder than doing so with a projectile, as not keeping the shield in place left Gaius open to attacks. Thus, he had no choice but to weather the assault, droplets of water spraying all over the place and drenching Gaius as if he were fighting in the rain.

After a few seconds, though, it was enough. The cutting stream, which Gaius bad blocked at a downward angle to hit the ground, shattered much of the nearby ice, permitting Gaius to break his feet out. Leaping upward, he narrowly cleared the Body Artist's horizontal swing, then kicked it in its bulbous mushroom cap head, knocking it to its back. Landing atop the goliath, Gaius drove his sword straight through its brain, ending its life swiftly.

Turning to the one remaining foe, Gaius flung several knives, prompting the Smith to summon walls of stone from the ground to block the projectiles. Before the enemy could bring the walls back down, however, Gaius had already dug underneath, and rose up behind the Mushroom Man, splitting it vertically down the middle.

The last enemy fell to the ground in two pieces, and all went quiet. Stopping for a moment to make sure there wasn't anything left to deal with, Gaius concluded that the floor was indeed cleared, and went to retrieve Scylla's tank.

"You know what? That one was actually pretty tough." True, Gaius had limited his strength and qi output to that of a Ninth Heavenstages, and he hadn't used his new dagger, and he hadn't tried any soul blasts, and he hadn't let Scylla transform and cook them all in one shot… okay, maybe it hadn't been that tough. But still! It had felt nostalgic to pretend he was still in the Ninth Heavenstage, using his skills alone to overcome the odds.

Near the exit, a colorful flower bud opened its petals, revealing Gaius' prize: a human eyeball?

The Seeker approached cautiously, filled with wariness and more than a little disgust. "I don't have to eat this, do I?" Scylla burbled a disgusted affirmation; she wouldn't eat any eyeballs either. No surprise there - Scylla had always refused to eat eyes, brains or anything related to the head of an animal. Even when she ate a smaller fish whole, Scylla spat out the head, for reasons Gaius didn't fully understand.

Gaius kneeled down, creeping around the prize and observing it from all directions. He didn't dare touch it, not yet. "That's not glass, it's real flesh. Maybe it's a rege-"

Gaius' gaze met the eyeball's, and a bright flash blinded him. When The Seeker came to, he was in an unfamiliar place and time.

——

Dead. Dead dead dead. A mountain of corpses filled the Dawn Fortress, burning, boiling, bubbling until the Bronze separated from their flesh and pooled into a great white basin. The Seeker fell, sword broken, body giving way, no longer able to fight.

Before him stood an assailant, unfathomable, shrouded in smoke. All that could be made out was the shriveled countenance of a man nearing the end of his lifespan. Behind it all, a dull roar shook the ground and air, the entropic scream of a dying world.

Thin, cruel fingers wrapped around Gaius' throat, lifting him up above the carnage as if hoisting a banner. The old man, whose face he could not recognize, opened his mouth to speak… and then something came over him, sending his head and neck into a painful-looking spasm.

The old man's face contorted, eyes going glassy, crossed and unfocused, as his mind was taken someplace far, far away. A choked whisper forced its way out of his throat, and words echoed in Gaius' head. "The tree, the tree is rotten! The loser is he who trusts in the foothold and not his own power!"


——

The dream faded as quickly as it had arrived. Bleary eyes peeled themselves open, revealing Gaius' surroundings once more. The eyeball, now petrified into brittle stone, fell out of his hand and broke in two on the ground below. It corroded further, turning to sand, then dust.

Ignoring the urge to make a snide comment, Gaius ducked into the tunnel and continued on his way down. He would have to trust the Cave that this reward would not be completely useless. Still, would it have killed them to just give him some equipment, or something?

——

After choosing to metaphorically travel back into the Ninth Heavenstage, Gaius had freed himself of any lingering desire for weakness. Now, he would grow drunk on strength for a while, indulge himself fully in the power he had attained, through his own endless, bottomless effort.

As if reading Gaius' own thoughts, the Cloud Caves responded with an opportunity to do so. The eighth floor was delightfully straightforward in its challenge. A flat circle of stone the size of a coliseum arena, this chamber had no gimmicks to offer, only a challenge of martial might.

And what a challenge it was; Gaius had fought many groups of monsters thus far, but never an entire army. In fact, that was a bit odd - packs of animals were one thing, but these were no animals, they were soldiers.

At least fifty enemies stood before Gaius, perched upright atop long, coiled, whipcord tails. From below the waist these soldiers were all serpents of various breeds, but above they were mostly human, with a torso, two arms, a head and the like. Some looked more human in the face than others, but on the whole there was a uniformity to their bodies that other demihumans lacked. Moreover, each and every one of them brandished a weapon, and stood poised to attack. No emotion could be glimpsed in their faces, only the cold intelligence of methodical killers.

Well, perhaps not really an army. Still, they filled a lot of space, and fighting them all would make him feel impressive.

"Okay…" Gaius exhaled sharply, drawing a sword in one hand and his Gravebronze dagger in the other. Holding the dagger in his left hand in a reverse grip over his right shoulder, he pointed the sword in his right hand forward, holding his enemies at bay. A few circled behind Gaius, creeping up for a surprise attack, which the sharp-eared Seeker tracked cautiously. "Now we're talking; a nice light workout. Entertain me!"

One serpent-man charged at Gaius from behind, and he turned and beheaded it in one motion. Another leapt over the recently-dead attacker, swinging a saber. Gaius deflected the blade with his dagger, the almighty metal shattering the inferior spirit steel, and cleaved into the serpent's flank with his sword. With fleet steps, Gaius circles around the enemy, sword sliding out of its flesh, and kicked it into two other serpent-men. With a flash of steel, he then impaled two serpents in one motion, and returned to his defensive stance before the enemies could react.

Slow. They were all so unbearably slow. Two, three, four at a time they came, and all were cut down. The serpents could not surrender, could not retreat - whatever magic bound them to the cave compelled them to fight as long as they still had breath. Gaius was nearly twice as fast, and that was before taking into account their sloppy technique, and how fighting in groups limited one's options. Over the course of several minute, Gaius hacked through several dozen of the beasts. Most were Fifth Heavenstage; a few, probably intended to be squad leaders, were in the Sixth. One squad leader and five soldiers from this floor could conquer the previous floor, though likely while taking a casualty or two. Gaius, now that he was cutting loose, was so far beyond them that he couldn't tell the difference between the two types, as they all died in the same fashion.

They were weak enough that Gaius could snuff them all out with one huge soul attack, but there was no need to wear out the Twin Sala Trees here. Better to keep things simple. With one big burst of power, Gaius conjured up an Aegis twenty feet across, blowing the remaining ten or so serpent-men away. With a wave of both hands, he lifted up the fallen weapons which surrounded him - sabers, spears, shields and maces, mostly - and flung them haphazardly at the survivors. Several unlucky monsters were run through, the rest were merely battered and injured, but it made no difference either way; this skirmish was over.

One by one, Gaius sauntered up to the serpent-men and cut them down, until the chamber grew silent. Only Gaius and the chest remained. Kneeling down, The Seeker plucked out the contents, a single arrow made of glass-like wood which shimmered in the dim light. Turning it end over end, he found it nearly impossible to track, as not just his sight, but his spiritual sense seemed to slide over the little treasure. Nice.

"I'm not that great an archer, but I'm sure I can make use of you…"

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Floor nine. The Ninth Heavenstage was the peak of orthodox Qi Condensation and another big jump. Gaius knew this one would be a real danger. He rolled his neck as he followed the newest tunnel further down into the earth, muscles all warmed up and ready for action.

He burned with the urge to call down his tribulation, to stop stalling and burst forth onto the world stage, but that was the barbaric instinct of an uncivilized man. Sometimes it was good to be barbaric, but to plumb these caves for every bit of resources was an opportunity that Gaius would never see again.

This floor was rather large, enough that Gaius couldn't estimate the shape at a glance. The wet, firm ground went along for at least a mile, in rolling hills and valleys, with a creek running through the chamber halfway across. The Floor Guardians, meanwhile, were hard to miss, with their bright eyes and glowing yellow teeth. They clung to the ceiling here and there in small groups all around the chamber, their Ninth Heavenstage cultivation base clear as day. A few even went beyond that, Alpha Bats which had risen into a crude facsimile of Foundation Building.

Qi-Draining Bats. Far from the primitive Carrion Bats they descended from, this species was extremely dangerous, and known to devastate Spirit Beast ecosystems, as well as consuming arrays and even minor treasures if given the chance. Not just that, but they massacred unprepared Qi Condensation hunters due to their ability to eat certain kinds of techniques outright. Carrion Bats were allowed to live because they made such great advancement materials, but Qi-Draining Bats were ruthlessly exterminated whenever they were found. It spoke volumes of the species' strength that they were not extinct despite being so feared and hated by Cultivators.

"Figures this place would have some of those fucking things…" Gaius muttered with a disgusted expression. "And I doubt their cores are the prize. Let's just bail."

And so, The Seeker simply dove under the bats, sinking into the ground before the first wave of attackers could reach him. With the utmost smoothness, he literally glided past the challenge, facing no resistance. Every once in a while, a tremor would pass over his body as a frustrated bat aimed a blast of raw qi at him, but those crude attacks lacked the penetrative power to reach his depth.

This was a pretty damn big chamber, thought Gaius as he strapped the breathing mask to his face and began to inhale. The uncomfortable sensation of breathing air without oxygen was replaced immediately with the refreshing feeling of ordinary breath. Now that was a luxury no one appreciated until they lost it.

…he felt like shit.

It was insane to feel guilty for avoiding something that wanted to kill him, and yet it ate away at Gaius nonetheless. How many struggles, how much personal growth, had Gaius simply dug his way under throughout his life? Had gaining such a powerful technique at such a young age stunted his potential by handing him easy victories?

Before such thoughts could be resolved, Gaius found himself nearing the edge of the chamber. In a smooth, practiced motion, he emerged from the ground, turning to find the floor's prize waiting for him on a pedestal: shimmering yellow crystal. He reached out for it, only for the object to burst at the slightest brush of his fingertips.

Before Gaius could despair that he had somehow broken the treasure, he watched and felt as the motes of light that had been there prism sunk through Gaius' armor, through his skin and into his body, congregating in his dantian. Their passage soothed him, numbing the little spots of soreness and filling his limbs with vigor. He got the gist; if he took enough punishment, this little bundle of life would burst within his body and restore him. A luxurious comfort, to bait the entrant in deeper.

Far behind Gaius, one hundred bats returned to their posts as if pulled back by strings. Each and every one of the floor guardians turned themselves upside down and clung to the ceiling, evenly spaced out throughout the floor like artful decorations. He wondered how much free will these guardians possessed, if any at all? How complex were the inner workings of this cave network, to coordinate endless legions of organisms so seamlessly? He couldn't even comprehend it.

All the ordinary Heavenstage floors were done with, and all that remained were challenges designed for people like Gaius: the ambitious ones who performed unorthodox cultivation. The easy parts were done with, and only danger remained.

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This one cuts off in slightly anticlimactic fashion, I'm afraid. Originally it was going to be 7-10, but floor 10 is getting insanely long just by itself, so I split it off into its own chapter so as to not drag on too long.

Part of my goal here was to look back on Gaius' progress, and so I had him fight the seventh floor as if he were his thirty-year-old self on a lark. This also provides a nice contrast for the eighth floor, where we see a Thirteenth Heavenstage cutting loose.

After this what I'm probably gonna do is have one chapter just for floor ten, then one chapter for 11, 12 and the start of 13, then once chapter for the rest of thirteen and Gaius' ascension.
 
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