Hmmph... this junior is a good seed [Cultivation Management Quest]

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Haven't thrown my hat in the ring with a plan in a while. Similar to some others, but mine has Plant Constructs!

The entire point of the invasion is to dominate the Jingshens conventional forces, capturing enough strongholds, cities and mines, to such an extent that the Jingshen Nascents have no choice but to emerge and fight Manuel and co on the ground of our choosing.

Invasion forces typically don't lead with their Nascents in 3rd sea conflicts for good reason, displaying your position openly is asking to be ambushed. The campaign is likely to take place over a huge enough landmass that not even our SuperCultivators could move fast enough to support each other if one of them gets ganged up on (or if both Jingshen Nascents attacked our two earlies, for example). That means that if our 7 legions are not suitable threatening and don't take enough territory in the next turn, J + J could sit back in their capital and watch (much like we did during the first half of the devil bee invasion) while aggressively lobbying their Righteous partners for aid. After all, they have every reason to be wary of Old Monster Manuel and decline a fight that he obviously wants. Even if their spies haven't picked up on our second Nascent or the Muyi Spear, it will be clear that we must have some kind of huge ace up our sleeve to make the defensive, plodding Devils take such a drastic step.

This is where the Shambler Legion comes in. If we are committing to taking stronghold after stronghold from a wealth focused faction, they are the perfect weapon. A hardy, remorseless and expendable wave of soldiers who can burn out their stockpile of defensive arrays, absorb the damage from big one use talismans and tank hits from those Spirit Cannons. Then they can rapidly replenish their numbers while we march onto the next objective. This kind of terror weapon is going to compel the Jingshen Nascents to come to the front lines, which is where we need them to be. This also strikes me as a good way to make up for any malus we might get to our rolls for sending those Array Masters to the south.

[X]Plan: Destasia Unleashed
-[X] Jin Muyi was a hero of the Clan to the very last

While his enemies deplored him as a monster, the Cultivator known as Jin Muyi was first and foremost an Optimatoi. One of the 'Best Men.' His path was one of sacrifice, pain and hardship, something which every Golden Devil can relate to. May his sense of honour be heralded throughout the land, the epitome of stoic duty. Protect the weak from the evil strong, and cultivate strength so that you can better strike down those that threaten our family.
-[X] Send the Clan's best Array-Engineers as well as several Legions south from the Great Battlefield to the Verdant South
The death toll in the recent raids on the Verdant South already eclipses that of the entire 9th Demon Annihilating war. Each dead mortal is not only its own tragedy but it is fuel for our enemies fires. Our ancient enemy grows fat and strong on the marrow of the southern sects bones. The chroniclers will not be able to say that he did so unopposed by the Optimatoi.
-[X] War (Jingshen) - Simply invade. Strike with all your might and seize territory. Kill cultivators. Requires your personal attention to prevent Nascent Souls from simply obliterating your forces. Uses your personal Action for the turn. War will open a set of new sub-turns.
We shall no longer tolerate peace with those who conspire to destroy us. With the strength we have cultivated, such indignities no longer need to be borne. The time has come for the Jingshen to be humbled, and for the Organ Meat Desert to recognise a single master.
Both of our Nascents will accompany the invading army, intent on finding opportunities to strike at their counterparts.

-[X] Purchase a Nascent Treasure - The Hateful Mirror (Major Purchase - costs 2 Purchases)
This war balances the entire fate of our Clan on a knife-edge. While we believe we have the advantage in Nascent power, a single false move could see that fade away faster than the shadow hides from the dawn. Any chance to secure that advantage must be seized with both hands.
-[X] Grow a Shambler Legion (Major Purchase - costs 2 Purchases)
Muyi's example leads us forward. For each of these constructs that are struck down, a Clansman's life will be spared. Remind these Jingshen that they do not face their own hidebound kind or the mindless hordes of the Blood Cannibals, but the terrifying ingenuity of a Clan whose legacy reaches back into the dawn of time and shuns their petty rules and taboos.
 
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[X] Plan For Forgiveness, Not Permission

as Occi said, this war locks our nascent actions until the subvotes come out.

On that note, i can see both version regarding Muyi, as my heart wants him die a Hero, but my mind understands the threat of our juniors dancing near Blood path would cause.

[X] Your sacrifices will not be wasted!
-[X] Jin Muyi was a fallen hero of the Clan, a victim of his own techniques
-[X] Send the Clan's best Array-Engineers as well as several Legions south from the Great Battlefield to the Verdant South
-[X] War (Jingshen)
-[X] The Hong Xuan Division
-[X] Purchase a Nascent Treasure - The Hateful Mirror
-[X] Raise Two Scorpion Legions


Because i'm bad with words and i believe Occi will come up with good IC reasons!
Also, PLEASE! lets put the zombie legions off for later! i want an LST for Kleisthenes to have now and more scorpions!

After reading Katana's plan as it includes my main sticking points, i will also vote for it

[X]Plan: Destasia Unleashed
 
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[X] Plan: Altar Lord's Last Chance
-[X]-"I am threading the eye of a needle, Ai'er. I am standing on a sinking ship aflame, standing in the last place of safety as I attempt to finish a great work left before me. But the ship is sinking, and time is rapidly running out. We must buy a little more time and space."

-[X] Manuel has divined that The Last Altar Lord is planning something big. He's desperately scrabbling for just a little more time to play his final card. The crowning achievement of his entire life. Altar Lord does not care for power, he simply took it because it was necessary for this very blow against Heaven, this final act. While we abhor his methods, we have a mutual enemy. We will not help the Righteous Path gain enough slack to crush the culmination of his dream that we share.
-[X] Jin Muyi was a fallen hero of the Clan, a victim of his own techniques
-[X] A tragic man with a tragic fate and a tragic ending will leave a tragic memory.
-[X] Don't
-[X] We will not give Heaven the slack required to remove the rebellion. We will not assist the Righteous Path to end the war that protects us.
-[X] War (Jingshen) - Simply invade. Strike with all your might and seize territory. Kill cultivators. Requires your personal attention to prevent Nascent Souls simply obliterating your forces. Uses your personal Action for the turn.
-[X] Manuel - War
-[X] It is time.
-[X] Kleisthenes - Work with Lady Yao to assassinate or subvert the Jingshen Nascent Soul candidates and steal their Nascent Soul Tribulation treasures.
-[X] The treasures Jingshen hold could catapult us to among the strongest powers immediately, protecting us from easy retaliation. We cannot allow Jingshen to user them first.
-[X] Raise Two Scorpion Legions (1 Purchase)
-Speed is of the essence.
-[X] A Thousand Spies, Ten Thousand Eyes on the Blood Oak (1 Purchase)
-A single unexpected Nascent Soul could be fatal.
-[X] Purchase a Nascent Treasure - The Hateful Mirror (Major Purchase - costs 2 Purchases)
-Kleisthenes must survive.

This plan gives Altar Lord one last turn to pull off the crowning achievement of his life. He told his adoptive daughter that he only needed a little more time to complete his life's work, time that the Righteous Powers will not give him if they're not suitably distracted. We can't allow them to finish this war yet.

I'm changing from Shambling Legion to the Hateful Mirror, changing Manuel's action to War, and am considering changing Jin Muyi's choice.

However, despite how unkind it is to denigrate a hero of the Clan, our single most useful aspect is our cohesion and loyalty. Praising Jin Muyi would harm that.

It's probably true that if they have diplomatic currency, that's what they'll likely use to punish us with. However, it's a huge slap in the face for SPS to sponsor us as an observer then have to remove us immediately after. It throws doubt on their judgment and publicly humiliates them. There's room to argue they'd be more punishing if we took their sponsorship then made them have to retract it immediately. It's less embarrassing to them if we don't take that public sponsorship in the first place.

Edit: I'll vote for any plan that doesn't send our array masters and legions to assist the South.
[X] Plan Conventional War

[X] Plan: All Hands on Deck
-[X] Recall several of your best Legions and Array Masters who have recently fought in large-scale war.
-[X] Jin Muyi was a hero of the Clan to the very last
-[X] Grow a Shambler Legion (Major Purchase - costs 2 Purchases)
-[X] Raise Two Scorpion Legions (1 Purchase)
-[X] Save Spirit Stones for use in Qi Drain Desert. (1 Purchase)
-[X] Manuel - War
-[X] Kleisthenes - Work with Lady Yao to assassinate or subvert the Jingshen Nascent Soul candidates and steal their Nascent Soul Tribulation treasures.
-[X] Clan - War
 
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[X] Plan: Destasia Unleashed

Was gonna back TehChron's plan, but katana makes a good point about how the shamblers can in fact be useful in the invasion. A little more dominance in the lower levels to beget a little more dominance on the Nascent level.
 
Rina Callista 44 - Teatime Downtime
Rina Callista
Teatime Downtime

"How incredibly frustrating".

The collapse of the Song Empire front of the Demon Annihilating War was something that could be called the beginning of the end of this particular go around. The Demonic Altar Sect's momentum was finally halted--and with no further victims to recruit and feed from, they had entered the fourth stage of the Blood Path Cycle--self cannibalization.

The weak were fed on by the stronger, who were in turn fed on by those stronger still. The entire collective turned from a united cult into a feeding frenzy. This would be a spectacular opportunity to sally out and assault the thicker concentrations of force normally--and this was ordinarily how the Demon Annihilating Wars go.

Unfortunately, with the allied Nascent Souls largely concerning themselves with containing the Insidious Poison Maze, desperately trying to prevent it from consuming what was left of the former Thousand Arrows and Flowers Sect, there was little cover to be had against an Alliance Nascent Soul striking back against any pursuit forces.

So the siege lines returned to the Fearless Line, and restored order there. The next stage of the conventional war would be to the South.

Which meant she had the time and leisure to reconnect with some of her friends. Oh sure, they remained in contact with the occasional letters, but with Xu Zhen playing a key role in the western front and bringing most of the rest of their ad-hoc fellowship with him, there wasn't much space for visits and vacations.

Especially when he was going from strength to strength.

"I just have no fate with the Man-as-Heaven array." Rina bonked her head against the table the three of them were sitting at--Bright Iron was recalled home when Old Cannibal's rampage started getting out of hand, and Leafsplitter was serving as a guide with the Coalition Forces. Xu Zhen had been regailing her about his tales of derring do in the Yuan Secret Realm while Rina was busy trying to jump ranks.

"Well, it could be worse." Xu Zhen tried to console her--tapping his newly empowered cane against one knee in the process unintentionally. "You might have suffered an injury that was more difficult to heal than that, or even lost ground on your cultivation base!"

"I know, I know--I prepared for it. But I used one of my Supreme Voidguard charges and mother's binding, and I ended up doing just a little better than treading water!" Rina complained. "I should have just left the damn bunny alone…"

"Hey, it's always the ones that are cute that'll getcha" Millet tittered over her tea. "Spatial magic isn't really something that fits you anyway, you're more one of those punchy sorts."

"I was going to use it as the binding for my spear though!" Rina complained, her voice raising. "In combination with the Celestial Bronze and the Resonant Heartwood I already had, I would have been able to create a Space Rippling Glaive!" She raised her head, a pout on her face.

"And then you got your legs cut off by a bunny lashing out," Millet giggled. "Seriously, you don't need something that powerful to grow with you--and you can't just force that kind of thing either. You need to trip over it and hope for the best!"

"You speak with conviction, and no small amount of authority." Xu Zhen frowned. "Is that some deep secret or something?"

"Well, let me put it this way…" Millet reaches for a stick of cinnamon, and stirs her tea, leaving a line of bubbles through it that she stares into mysteriously. "Luck's a quantifiable resource, right?"

Rina and Xu Zhen both nod, and Millet smugly grins. "Which means that it's finite. If someone's doing well somewhere, it means that it's coming at the cost of someone else--if only because the opportunity created by your advantage has closed off options elsewhere. Tell me, has anyone in your Clan had a fantastic stroke of luck?"

Rina nodded. "Yeah, we had one junior walk in--barely past being an Aspirant--and she walked out at the Twelfth Heavenstage"

Xu Zhen spat his tea out.

"Hah!" Millet laughed. "I told you! That girl there probably ate up most of your Clan's good fortune right there, and by the time you started poking around, there just wasn't any left for you!"

Rina reached for her forehead, fingers splayed out as she rubbed her temples. "It… no, it can't be that easy."

"It has to be," Xu Zhen groaned, matching Rina's expression. "How do you even plan for that?"

"You don't" Millet curtly concludes, taking the cinnamon stick out and biting a chunk off the end. "Mmm--very nice." She mumbles, setting it down beside the dish in an atrocity against good tea manners. "You can't force the hand of Fate. You can try--yeah, you can make all your preparations, you can bash your head against the wall, you can work at ten thousand percent of your normal effort. But if destiny isn't with you? You'll just find yourself disappointed and possibly overextended." Satisfied with the amount of added spice to her drink, Millet takes another probing taste, and nods in satisfaction. "So you do what comes naturally, and you takes the bads with the goods. As long as you hold true to that and know when to fold 'em, you'll do well enough."

Rina nodded at that. "I suppose you're right, I've been… Admittedly shaken in the past few decades." She hesitates then, a trace of reluctance on her features.

"Given you say decades…" Xu Zhen leads on, and Rina sighs, shaking her head before speaking up. "The Trials went historically well--outside of Qi Condensation, our losses were just slightly above peacetime attrition."

"You wouldn't have been spooked though if there wasn't more to it though, would you be?" Millet added, doing her part to keep Rina from clamming up.

"I was jumped by something new, almost immediately after the Foundation Establishment stage began." Rina shut her eyes, remembering the pitiless gaze of the Purifying Heavenly Star. "Take the physical power of a Core Formation expert." She lists out. "Add to that a nigh inexhaustible supply of Qi, the ability to project power from kilometers away in an instant. Total immunity to poisons, drugs, and other gap closers. Furthermore, any sneak attack that could plausibly deal damage just fails, somehow. She'll step out of the way, or the technique won't fire, or it'll just miss in defiance of all sanity and practice. Now take all of that and pack that in the cultivation base of a Foundation Establishment cultivator."

"Sounds a lot like you" Millet quipped, drawing Rina up short.

"Not quite…" Xu Zhen sifted the problem over. "You didn't describe anything like your Emanation coming out, did you?"

"I… Maybe?" Rina closed her eyes to think on the matter, drawing from her memory of the After Action Reports she had read in her frenzied recovery before heading to Yuan. "No, nobody else who fought her described that kind of pressure, she just struck them down and moved on. I only managed to drive her away with a one-off trick rather than any power of my own. She'd never let me get that close to her again."

"So why are you so worried?" Millet downed the last of her tea, and started chomping on the rest of her cinnamon stick. "You're already cultivating at a ferocious pace. So you couldn't beat her in a straight fight last Trial. How often have you just sat at one level for a hundred years though?" She stuffed the stick into her mouth, rolling it back and forth with her tongue. "Yew just gotta let things come naturally"

"Please don't talk with something in your mouth." Xu Zhen sighed, ignoring Millet's wide grin as she sucked the last of the stick into her mouth and chomped. He looked to Rina then. "That being said, you are treading new ground with your Cultivation. Dao Magic in Foundation Establishment is nigh unprecedented--if you've exhibited those sorts of abilities merely in the… What stage are you at?"

"It's not as easy to track as the orthodox path, but I should be Middle Single Pillar at the moment?" Rina considered. "Closing on Late I think. I've been coming up with pithy names for each stage as I come along for my reports to the Clan, but I'm not sure they're catching on."

"So you should have two more powerful abilities coming, if the earlier stages are any indication." Millet swallowed the last of her cinnamon stick and leaned back on her chair, crossing her hands behind her head and kicking her feet up. Xu Zhen looked on unamused, but Rina seemed more focused on what she had to say. "Cultivation never pays out the good stuff at the halfway point, after all, you have to pay your dues and get your chores out of the way before it'll pour goodies down after all."

"That's… Fair." Rina allowed after a moment, though she was still apprehensive. "I'll admit, it's been… Trying lately, the more I learn about the Single Pillar Path, the more concerned I become of where it's going." Millet perks up there, tilting her hat back to get a better view, Xu Zhen gestures for Rina to continue.

"I was thrown off by what Kinslaughterer said, when he tried to kill me." Rina's speech tended to meander when she was gathering up her courage. "The comparison he drew to Soup Chef. I dismissed it at first, but it was in the peak of the battle in the Trials that I started to figure out what he may have meant."

"Blood Path does tend to be crazy…" Xu Zhen cautioned, but Millet made a series of shushing noises, holding one finger to her lips. Rina nods in appreciation, and thinks.

"I'm… Reasonably sure, after the events of the last set of Trials, that the Blood Path and the Single Pillar Path share a common root." Rina seems almost asking the question as much as she is laying her observations down.

"That doesn't seem right?" Xu Zhen squints, trying to mull it over himself. "You've certainly shown no signs of being barred from other forms of cultivation, and your techniques are also no different from orthodox elementalism--save maybe in aesthetic and properties, but that can be attributed to your own Clan's mythologies influencing how your Dao manifests." His inner scholar rears its head--as it always does when a puzzle is presented to him.

"No, it makes perfect sense." Millet nods, which gets both of the other Experts to meet her lazy gaze. "What? You're going to ask me to explain it? You two are the book nerds!"

Rina and Xu Zhen continue to stare back, expressions wooden. Millet squirms in her seat, then groans as she tilts her hat back down. "Okay! Fine! Gah!" She kicks her feet off, her chair settling back on four legs as she crosses her legs before her. "Okay, what is Cultivation?"

"The act of drawing in the energies of Heaven and Earth to purify the body and enlighten the spirit?" Xu Zhen recited.

"It's the ability to empower one's body and spirit, drawing closer to an ideal self?" Rina supplied her own perspective.

"Nope!" Millet popped the last syllable, and leaned forward in a conspiratorial way. "You're overthinking it, both of you. It's way, way simpler than that." She bared her teeth, her grin taking on an ominous note. "It's taking from the environment to enrich the self."

Rina's eyes widened.

"Ahhhh, you get it now, right?" Millet whispered, as Xu Zhen tried to grapple with that idea. "Whether you're cultivating from ambient Qi, extracting Qi from Beast Cores, or absorbing Qi from spirit stones--the fundamental act is 'Taking from Without to evolve the Self.' The Blood Demon Path is no different."

"That doesn't follow through, does it?" Xu Zhen bit his bottom lip, eyes flickering through unseen memories. "There's three proper methods, and a heretical one cursed by the Heavens. One's got to be flawed, right?"

Rina shook her head. "No, I think Millet has a point." She crossed her arms before her. "While common doctrine says that Heaven is Emotionless, there's proof positive that it can be biased, and it can adjust the rules to further an unknown agenda."

"Bwuh?" Xu Zhen is cut out from his reverie as he meets Rina's gaze. "My Golden Devil clan is the greatest proof that the Heavens can be biased. We have been laboring under the weight of untold curses--many of those observed and documented even beyond our own realm. Until just recently, any region we dared reside in suddenly ceased producing all but a trickle of cultivation resources. We are invaded by warriors from another Sea in defiance of the usual difficulties travelling between the Nine Seas on a centennial basis, and the fact that slaying a Golden Devil provides noticeable improvements to one's good luck? The simple fact of being born with our blood is apparently a sinful act that no amount of righteous deeds can wash away?"

Xu Zhen opens his mouth, pauses, raises a finger, and then closes his mouth again, grappling with that.

"Yep" Millet nodded. "Meanwhile, you've got assholes like the Noble Knowledge Sect who can get away with any level of atrocity, and yet membership doesn't carry any discernible karmic costs. Yes, I know the Insidious Poison Maze is awful--but it's not capable of blocking the gaze of the Heavens either."

"Okay, okay." Xu Zhen raises his hands to ask the two women to stop. "Let's say for the sake of argument that the Blood Demon Path is structurally as viable as the other methods. How does this tie in with the Single Pillar Path sharing a common root?"

"Because that root is shared among all methods of Cultivation." Millet leans back, satisfied that she had won the point. "Rina, tell me, how do you Cultivate?"

Rina nodded. "I draw in Qi and pack it into my Pillar--most of it tends to leave, but the process of packing it causes my Pillar to change in nature, gradually picking up new capabilities as I go along… I thought for a while that I'd need to alter my Pillar personally, but it just kind of happens on it's own?"

Xu Zhen gasps then, and his eyes flicker with insight. "It's Qi Condensation!'

Rina blinks.

Millet leans forward, and wiggles her hand, clearly telling him to continue.

Xu Zhen flushes slightly, put on the spot the way he did, but nods, tapping his cane against the floor. "Ordinarily, once one enters Foundation Establishment, the process of gathering Qi is to forge the physical structure of one's Pillars. It's about philosophy. One explores the nature of their Dao, and assembles seven Pillars to support a future Core--seven fundamental clauses that make up a complete Dao to follow."

His cane continues to tap, and one of his feet gets in on it as Xu Zhen is caught up in his theory. "Qi Condensation is different. Anyone who can manipulate Qi in the slightest can enter that stage. It requires no special techniques, no special doctrine--as long as you have a rudimentary idea of how to strengthen the physical body, you can advance to the height. No mind is needed, no insights required. When taken to the extremes, it can forge a body perfectly suited to Cultivation--even raising one's innate Talent. It concludes at the Thirteenth Heavenstage, where one's own Dao is blessed by the Heavens--and it is at that point that the Single Pillar Path can be embarked upon…"

"Grand Elder Konstantinos mentioned that in his lectures before the Trials…" Rina mused. "That some cultures prioritize different aspects of being at different times, but All begin Cultivation with the Body."

"He would know, would he?" Millet mumbles mysteriously. Xu Zhen nods. "I think that's what's meant by a shared root. No matter what one's discipline is--it goes through Qi Condensation first... And the Single Pillar Path continues the work that Qi Condensation began!"

Rina's eyes widen, and she curls up on her seat. "... It fits…" She allows. "I needed a complete philosophy to enter Single Pillar in the first place, there's no need for alignment, there's no need for fusing the Cores. The work of Foundation Establishment was done from the moment I entered the stage…"

"Which means that Single Pillar is a cheat trick that exploits the fundamental nature of Cultivation to extend Qi Condensation far, far beyond its intended scope." Millet concludes. "Cultivation is the process of concentrating the power of the Universe into the Self, you can't just skip a stage, so instead of building Pillars, you just keep purifying your body and your Dao until you have the power needed to progress further."

"But that's expensive, the volumes of Qi needed to advance further are staggering. Just getting to the Thirteenth Heavenstage in the first place is already something only the most brilliantly talented can even dream of." Xu Zhen continues the line of thought. "But with a Pillar, one's capacity and pressure increase to the point where the impossible becomes possible--but not cheap."

"Normal resources just don't cut it anymore." Rina admitted. "I have to use Core level resources to do much more than tread water at this point--not the top quality stuff thankfully, but if I didn't have my rank as a Legate and a Legion at my back to help, I'd be stagnating by now."

"It's intended as a matched set." Xu Zhen grimaced. "Cultivation Resources are expensive and subject to conditions, but humans are cheap."

"No wonder Kinslaughterer was so angry." Rina mused. "How many organizations have the infrastructure to support Single Pillar Cultivators without converting to Blood Path?" She gave a ladylike snort and sneered. "It must have come off as literal theft of a weapon forged by their Founder."

"... Weapon…" Millet paused, letting that thought roll in her head for a moment. "Rina, you said you used a 'Cheap Trick', to defeat that powerful enemy, right?"

"Yeah--she was fueled by this little spark of power, constantly feeding energy into her." Rina explained. "Once I cottoned on that I could use my Pillar to absorb power rather than simply emit it, I found out that I could drain from that spark."

Millet's nose twitched, and she grimaced.

"Everything alright?" Xu Zhen asked, noticing her expression.

"I don't know, something about that feels important though…" Her mouth moved from side to side, almost as if chewing over a thought. After a few moments of this, she seemed to have something together. "I think…" She began, and froze as a rumble of thunder filled the room.

"Someone in the middle of a Tribulation?" Xu Zhen wondered as he glanced off into the distance.

"Downtime Is a good time to do it--you think it's anyone we know?" Rina wondered, glad for the change of subject against the heavy discussion.

Millet looked between the two of them, then up into the air, then chuckled darkly and said no more.

It was fine, for her to know it herself--she'd know what to watch out for now...
 
[x] Plan For Forgiveness, Not Permission

Also, just getting this in after my omake drop.

(Ninja Vanishes)
 
"There is only one chance for my Lord, Manuel Komnenos. Only one chance for me, only one chance for all your people. Join with me and seize it. I can't guarantee victory, but together we'll have a chance. Nothing more than that. If we win, you can end Blood Path yourself if you'd like. Rule the whole Third Sea as you please. Kill every criminal like me, for all that matters. All I ask is that you overthrow Heaven before it crushes us under its heel."
Altar Lord shook, his hands trembling.

"I knew this was the outcome, yet I had hoped. I am not too proud to beg, so I will do so. Please."

He bent to the ground, kowtowing once, twice, thrice.

"You do not know what you throw away. There is only a single chance left, and if we do not seize it-"
I implore people to reread The Elder and the Lord before sealing the doom of Altar Lord's gambit.

I said before that I thought he wanted to scar Heaven? I think he wants to free Soup Chef, who is somehow stuck as a body without a soul, unable to make new thoughts.
 
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I implore people to reread The Elder and the Lord before sealing the doom of Altar Lord's gambit.

I said before that I thought he wanted to scar Heaven? I think he wants to free Soup Chef, who is somehow stuck as a body without a soul, unable to make new thoughts.
If his plan requires the Devils to do absolutely nothing to contribute to the fighting to succeed, then it's a shitty plan that he didn't think through. He already knew that we were throwing our hat in there a bit for brownie points. I'd think he already took that into account.
 
If his plan requires the Devils to do absolutely nothing to contribute to the fighting to succeed, then it's a shitty plan that he didn't think through. He already knew that we were throwing our hat in there a bit for brownie points. I'd think he already took that into account.
He preferred to not unleash the Bees on the Plains and the Maze on the Arrows. Whether or not his plan was good, he has stated he only needs a little more time to complete it. I'm sure things would have been a lot less close to the wire if we'd cut off the stones like he'd requested.

He wanted a chance, he has a chance. We're currently voting to help take that away from him by sending our array masters and several Legions to hold back the Bees so RP can focus on finishing Altar Lord off.
"I am threading the eye of a needle, Ai'er. I am standing on a sinking ship aflame, standing in the last place of safety as I attempt to finish a great work left before me. But the ship is sinking, and time is rapidly running out. We must buy a little more time and space."
He's almost there. He just needs a little more time to pull off his grand finale. And we know that his goals, if not his methods, are compatible with our own.
 
He preferred to not unleash the Bees on the Plains and the Maze on the Arrows. Whether or not his plan was good, he has stated he only needs a little more time to complete it. I'm sure things would have been a lot less close to the wire if we'd cut off the stones like he'd requested.

He wanted a chance, he has a chance. We're currently voting to help take that away from him by sending our array masters and several Legions to hold back the Bees so RP can focus on finishing Altar Lord off.
He's almost there. He just needs a little more time to pull off his grand finale. And we know that his goals, if not his methods, are compatible with our own.
Again, your belief that us sending some support will ruin everything for him is totally baseless.maybe it will, maybe it won't, but we don't actually know either way.

And if it does… who cares? The Hedge Maze will still be a thing. The Devil Bees will still be ravaging the south. Altar Lord has no more usefulness to us.
 
Again, your belief that us sending some support will ruin everything for him is totally baseless.maybe it will, maybe it won't, but we don't actually know either way.

And if it does… who cares? The Hedge Maze will still be a thing. The Devil Bees will still be ravaging the south. Altar Lord has no more usefulness to us.
Altar Lord is an enemy of Heaven. A Heavenemy if you will. He doesn't care about personal power, he has a cause we share. Everything he and his entire dynasty have done has led up to his one final play. As fellow cursed Heavenemies, what battles or harms the Heavens helps us. Altar Lord believes this will open up a chance at winning.

Altar Lord has been confusing about whether or not he cares if his front collapses, but he needs the Righteous coalition to be distracted in order to put into play his master plan. If we help by putting the entire region's best array masters and roughly half the legions we'll be using for the entire Jingshen invasion in the south to defend against the distractions Altar Lord is praying that RP gets stuck on, we're giving our best shot at foiling his final play, what he thinks will give us a chance of winning against Heaven or at least forstalling our doom.

If our array masters and legions weren't significantly useful, SPS wouldn't be paying us for it. Sponsoring us for observership is a big deal, they're putting their face on the line that we won't embarrass them. They could have had us pay huge amounts of wealth for their sponsorship and it would have been worth it. They paid 1 Wealth in perpetuity for the use of our legions and arrays, that's not small potatoes.

Our assistance matters. If we send help to the South we could tip the balance away from a gamechanger against Heaven.
He had chosen to walk this path so long ago. His Lord had spoken to him about the truth of the world and he had agreed, had known that the horror must be perpetuated for any chance of winning to be had.
"I believe I spoke. They represent two of our greatest chances so far. There are only three chances left, and I will not hazard losing any of them."

"Now. Leave. Continue threatening the front. We need to push through and gain as many resources as we can before we are pushed back and the war turns against us. We are presently insufficient to the task we are facing. Go."

He had chosen to walk this path so long ago. His Lord had spoken to him about the truth of the world and he had agreed, had known that the horror must be perpetuated for any chance of winning to be had.

"Let me explain. Heaven is repairing itself, rebuilding the regulations that govern this world. At this rate in another ten or twenty thousand years there won't be a Blood Path. Shortly after that, it will destroy the only forces remaining in all the Seas capable of evading fate. The world will once again be properly regulated, and you will be helpless. Shortly after that, your people will be no more."

"All I ask is that you overthrow Heaven before it crushes us under its heel."

Edit: Anyone who argues that our legions would be a knife at RP's back as explicitly stated in the leading vote can't argue that our assistance is too small to matter.

How about me? While I argue that they don't have enough ATK to be a knife, I'm perfectly aware of how excellent our DEF is.
 
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Adhoc vote count started by Insane-Not-Crazy on Aug 15, 2021 at 10:04 AM, finished with 24 posts and 17 votes.

  • [x] Plan For Forgiveness, Not Permission
    -[x] Jin Muyi was a hero of the Clan to the very last
    -[X] Send the Clan's best Array-Engineers as well as several Legions south from the Great Battlefield to the Verdant South
    -[x] War against the Jingshen Clan- Simply invade. Strike with all your might and seize territory. Kill cultivators. Requires your personal attention to prevent Nascent Souls simply obliterating your forces. Uses your personal Action for the turn. War will open a set of new sub-turns.
    -[x] Manuel - Hunt An Enemy (Old Jingshen) - Why not? Hunt down enemies, see if you can kill someone. Usually used against an opposing Nascent Soul. Potentially very dangerous.
    -[x] Kleisthenes - Work with Lady Yao to Assassinate or Subvert the Jingshen Nascent Soul candidates and steal their Nascent Soul Tribulation treasures. Ensure that a third Jingshen Nascent Soul does not arise, let alone a fourth.
    -[x] The Hong Xuan Division (1 Purchase)
    -[x] Purchase a Nascent Treasure - The Hateful Mirror (Major Purchase - costs 2 Purchases)
    -[X] Raise Two Scorpion Legions (1 Purchase)
    [X]Plan: Destasia Unleashed
    -[x] Jin Muyi was a hero of the Clan to the very last
    -[X] Send the Clan's best Array-Engineers as well as several Legions south from the Great Battlefield to the Verdant South
    -[X] War (Jingshen) - Simply invade. Strike with all your might and seize territory. Kill cultivators. Requires your personal attention to prevent Nascent Souls from simply obliterating your forces. Uses your personal Action for the turn. War will open a set of new sub-turns.
    -[x] Purchase a Nascent Treasure - The Hateful Mirror (Major Purchase - costs 2 Purchases)
    -[X] Grow a Shambler Legion (Major Purchase - costs 2 Purchases)
    [X] Plan: The most important part of any summary execution is to remember to have fun and be yourself
    -[X] Jin Muyi was a fallen hero of the Clan, a victim of his own techniques
    --[X] Alas, for Jin Muyi a beloved hero of the Clan has fallen to the blood path in his lust for power and had to be struck down, he was tricked into being overcome by a blood path legacy by the scheming Jingshen who have been revealed to be blood path users
    -[X] Send the Clan's best Array-Engineers as well as several Legions south from the Great Battlefield to the Verdant South
    --[X] Given how we and the Strength Purity Sect have such an eternal friendship we will of course aid them against the vile blood path. Though times may be hard, together we stand against the demonic forces of the blood path.
    -[X] War - Jingshen
    --[X] The foul Jingshen have gone too far, they have assaulted the beautiful righteous Yao Zhihao with intent to murder her and consume her flesh using the vile blood path, they even used one of their secret blood path legacies to corrupt our beloved hero Jin Muyi. In hindsight we should have know that the Jingshen were blood path users from how they go about slaughtering mortals. Still it is to late to change the past all that remains in front of us in justice found in their summary execution.
    -[X] Manuel - War on Jingshen
    -[X] Kleisthenes - War on Jingshen
    -[X] Grow a Shambler Legion (Major Purchase - costs 2 Purchases)
    -[X] Raise Two Scorpion Legions (1 Purchase)
    [X] Plan Conventional War
    -[X] Jin Muyi was a fallen hero of the Clan, a victim of his own techniques
    -[x] Don't
    -[X] War (Jingshen) - You are as ever a loyal ally. The Flood Dragon Gang has called upon you to help them repay the insult made by Jingshen personally to Lady Yao. You march with the Gang to demand a reckoning and force out the Jingshen Nascents.
    -[x] (War) Manuel
    -[x] (War) Kleisthenes
    -[x] The Hong Xuan Division
    -[x] Purchase a Nascent Treasure - The Hateful Mirror
    -[x] Raise Two Scorpion Legions
    [X] Your sacrifices will not be wasted!
    -[X] Jin Muyi was a fallen hero of the Clan, a victim of his own techniques
    -[X] Send the Clan's best Array-Engineers as well as several Legions south from the Great Battlefield to the Verdant South
    -[X] War - Jingshen
    -[x] The Hong Xuan Division
    -[x] Purchase a Nascent Treasure - The Hateful Mirror
    -[x] Raise Two Scorpion Legions
    [X] Plan: Altar Lord's Last Chance
    -[X]-"I am threading the eye of a needle, Ai'er. I am standing on a sinking ship aflame, standing in the last place of safety as I attempt to finish a great work left before me. But the ship is sinking, and time is rapidly running out. We must buy a little more time and space."
    -[X] Manuel has divined that The Last Altar Lord is planning something big. He's desperately scrabbling for just a little more time to play his final card. The crowning achievement of his entire life. Altar Lord does not care for power, he simply took it because it was necessary for this very blow against Heaven, this final act. While we abhor his methods, we have a mutual enemy. We will not help the Righteous Path gain enough slack to crush the culmination of his dream that we share.
    -[X] Jin Muyi was a fallen hero of the Clan, a victim of his own techniques
    -[X] A tragic man with a tragic fate and a tragic ending will leave a tragic memory.
    -[x] Don't
    -[X] We will not give Heaven the slack required to remove the rebellion. We will not assist the Righteous Path to end the war that protects us.
    -[X] War (Jingshen) - Simply invade. Strike with all your might and seize territory. Kill cultivators. Requires your personal attention to prevent Nascent Souls simply obliterating your forces. Uses your personal Action for the turn.
    -[X] Manuel - War
    -[X] It is time.
    -[X] Kleisthenes - Work with Lady Yao to assassinate or subvert the Jingshen Nascent Soul candidates and steal their Nascent Soul Tribulation treasures.
    -[X] The treasures Jingshen hold could catapult us to among the strongest powers immediately, protecting us from easy retaliation. We cannot allow Jingshen to user them first.
    -[X] Raise Two Scorpion Legions (1 Purchase)
    -[X] A Thousand Spies, Ten Thousand Eyes on the Blood Oak (1 Purchase)
    -[x] Purchase a Nascent Treasure - The Hateful Mirror (Major Purchase - costs 2 Purchases)
    [X] Jin Muyi was a hero of the Clan to the very last
    [X] Your sacrifices will not be wasted!
 
Most of the finalized plans leave out the spies to Magic Oak, which is the only possible source of hired help for Jingshen.

[X] Plan: Altar Lord's Last Chance
 
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