La Chanson de la Victoire (The Song of Victory): La Petite Arpenteuse (Non, SV, you are a General of France in the Napoleonic War!)

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If we're going for making Sicily into a sister republic, wouldn't it be better to not ask any reparations from them? Ferdinand might be the one paying it, but the money comes out of the coffers that they would start using, and they'll have enough obstacles to deal with as-is. Not to mention how we've already looted Pallermo.
 
I don't think we really need any reparations. All we need is the ports, and have him turn over his internal fortifications, possibly open up to French business investment and trade.
 
Sir_Travelsalot said:
If we're going for making Sicily into a sister republic, wouldn't it be better to not ask any reparations from them? Ferdinand might be the one paying it, but the money comes out of the coffers that they would start using, and they'll have enough obstacles to deal with as-is. Not to mention how we've already looted Palermo.
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Actually, we would be getting the money from Ferdinand, who is also the King of Naples. So even if we turn Sicily into a Republic, Ferdinand who will just be the King of Naples, will still have to pay for peace.

Edit: We also have to come up with a new flag for this republic of Sicily, may I suggest the symbol on this flag on a tricolor background.
 
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[]Plan Just let Brian do it
-[]Pay War Reparations (Light): The King will pay, from his state coffers a sum of money to the French State. (+5 The Payments that the king will need to pay are negligible to his economy.)
-[]Permanent Naval Docking Rights: The French Navy needs to have bases to maintain supply with your army and any future operations. (+10. The Navy will have a base in Syracuse, and the city will be under French control, and administration)
-[]Send Ferdinand to Paris: The King will be an honored guest in Paris for the foreseeable future. (+15 The King gets sent to Paris… where he thanks God and all the angels that Brian is in charge instead of Robespierre)

DC20 and let Brian and Napoleon decide what they want to do with him, we are negotiating for our army and establishing our supply line, do not involve yourselves in politics without having a complete picture of what's happening in mainland Europe.

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Magoose said:
The Stormrunner!: They claimed it was impossible. But you have a knack for doing the impossible. From Storms to Hurricanes, to the most brutal of weather the world throws at you, you can do battle with little trouble fighting in conditions that should otherwise be impossible for any sane commander. (Suffer no maluses when fighting or commanding in inclement weather like rain, snow, blizzards, sandstorms, etc.)

The Amphibious Frogs: The actions taken at your victory at Palermo and its immediate aftermath have unofficially made you one of the foremost experts on amphibious invasions in all of Europe. The kings and Emperors of Europe now fear their coastlines having a French Fleet beyond them, with you leading the Vanguard for an invasion that they can only barely predict. (When Amphibiously invading, you will gain a +10 to all rolls when the invasion is known, and an additional +30 if the invasion is unknown by the Enemy defenders.)
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Those sweet traits say "Hi" to Russia and the UK.
 
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NoxOfUmbra said:
Those sweet traits say "Hi" to Russia and the UK.
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When I say that You are now one of the most famous generals in Europe at this moment...

Believe when I say, everyone is watching your career with great interest.

Especially the pants-shittingly terrified British empire who really thinks that they should not have left the war now.
 
Our reputation is 10 now.
Hmmm, I wonder if Brian's and Therese's "kindness" towards their enemies will be as remembered as much as the brutal beatdowns they gave, the propaganda against them is very bad right now after all.
 
Ok fine SV, do not tell me this updated for some reason :<
Magoose said:
[]Ferdinand Abdicates from his Thrones: Ferdinand Bourbon, will abdicate his throne, and be replaced with his son, and be exiled from his kingdoms, never to return to his kingdoms. (+25. The European powers are very… surprised)
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Why would they be surprised? Is this too magnanimous?
 
NoxOfUmbra said:
Hmmm, I wonder if Brian's and Therese's "kindness" towards their enemies will be as remembered as much as the brutal beatdowns they gave, the propaganda against them is very bad right now after all.
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We have no propaganda. Only victory.
Sivantic said:
Ok fine SV, do not tell me this updated for some reason :<
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I should ask PAwn about that.
Sivantic said:
Why would they be surprised? Is this too magnanimous?
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Mostly because Ferdinand, in history, was a cockroach that maintained his throne despite everything going against him, and playing off of everyone and even expanded his own brutal regime after Napoleon fell.

Throwing him off his throne would be rather surprising.
 
I have a question @Magoose, apart from France how many republics are there in Europe?

[] The Republic of Sicile is totally not a French puppet
-[]Allow Ferdinand to keep his Throne (Naples): The Great Powers of Europe will never accept a king being removed from his throne so forcefully, and Ferdinand is one of the rare monarchs that retain two titles of the same Rank, Sicily, and Naples. You will take one, and remove the other, controlling the southern Italian Peninsula. (Grants +20. The Kingdom of Sicily will be transferred to the French Republic, with the administration transitioning towards a republic)
-[]Pay War Reparations (Light): The King will pay, from his state coffers a sum of money to the French State. (+5 The Payments that the king will need to pay are negligible to his economy.)
-[]Permanent Naval Docking Rights: The French Navy needs to have bases to maintain supply with your army and any future operations. (+10. The Navy will have a base in Syracuse, and the city will be under French control, and administration)

This plan okay, @Magoose?
 
[X] Stick to What We Came Here For
-[X] Allow Ferdinand to keep his Throne (Naples): The Great Powers of Europe will never accept a king being removed from his throne so forcefully, and Ferdinand is one of the rare monarchs that retain two titles of the same Rank, Sicily, and Naples. You will take one, and remove the other, controlling the southern Italian Peninsula. (Grants +20. The Kingdom of Sicily will be transferred to the French Republic, with the administration transitioning towards a republic)
-[X] Pay War Reparations (Light): The King will pay, from his state coffers a sum of money to the French State. (+5 The Payments that the king will need to pay are negligible to his economy.)
-[X] Permanent Naval Docking Rights: The French Navy needs to have bases to maintain supply with your army and any future operations. (+10. The Navy will have a base in Syracuse, and the city will be under French control, and administration)
-[X] Garrisons: You will be setting up Garrisons to Secure French interests on the Island will be normally under French control (+5 The island will be under French Occupation)
 
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Ramble said:
[] Stick to What We Came Here For
-[] Allow Ferdinand to keep his Throne (Naples): The Great Powers of Europe will never accept a king being removed from his throne so forcefully, and Ferdinand is one of the rare monarchs that retain two titles of the same Rank, Sicily, and Naples. You will take one, and remove the other, controlling the southern Italian Peninsula. (Grants +20. The Kingdom of Sicily will be transferred to the French Republic, with the administration transitioning towards a republic)
-[] Pay War Reparations (Light): The King will pay, from his state coffers a sum of money to the French State. (+5 The Payments that the king will need to pay are negligible to his economy.)
-[] Permanent Naval Docking Rights: The French Navy needs to have bases to maintain supply with your army and any future operations. (+10. The Navy will have a base in Syracuse, and the city will be under French control, and administration)
-[] Garrisons: You will be setting up Garrisons to Secure French interests on the Island will be normally under French control (+5 The island will be under French Occupation)
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What is the purpose of the Garrisons point, given that the first one includes 'The Kingdom of Sicily will be transferred to the French Republic, with the administration transitioning towards a republic'
 
Temes1066 said:
I have a question @Magoose, apart from France how many republics are there in Europe?
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THere are 8, all of them french vessel republics.

And the Netherlands, but since they got a name change, they are now in the French sphere.
wencitofrum said:
What is the purpose of the Garrisons point, given that the first one includes 'The Kingdom of Sicily will be transferred to the French Republic, with the administration transitioning towards a republic'
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Simple.

Securing our interests and not having some pesky Italian nationalists try and break away and reunify the Italian pennensula.
 
Magoose said:
THere are 8, all of them french vessel republics.

And the Netherlands, but since they got a name change, they are now in the French sphere.
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How about the Swiss, San Marino and Venice?

Magoose said:
Simple.

Securing our interests and not having some pesky Italian nationalists try and break away and reunify the Italian pennensula.
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Strictly speaking Sicily is not part of the peninsula.

And I don't know of any italian nationalist who seriously tried to get back Corsica (bar Mussolini)
 
wencitofrum said:
How about the Swiss, San Marino and Venice?
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They are entities that are either to small to make an impact politically, or just me forgetting shit again.

Or the Swiss, the eternally neutral people who will not budge, even if we offered them the Reich.

so make that 11.
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Strictly speaking Sicily is not part of the peninsula.
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Yes, but it could be a staging ground for Italian nationalists who want to seen the peninsula unified for the first time since Rome.

Especially if they decide that Sicily under the French would allow them to work in secrets.
Temes1066 said:
What are these Vassal Republics?
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Going off the historical list since that did not change, but we have The Batavian republic, the Republic of Lucca, Bolognese republic, Brescia, Genoa (a city state republic), the Transpadane Republic, And the Cisalpine republic. There is also the Milan Republic, but that is under military occupation by Massena.

Oh and the three I forgot about, San Marino, Venice, and Switzerland. but they are not vassels.
 
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Well I can safely say that next update will finally reveal what cyber wanted to have shown.

and he is really happy bout his idea making sense.
 
Magoose said:
Fresh forces.
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I now feel, much better, about @Ramble's plan

[X] Stick to What We Came Here For
-[X] Allow Ferdinand to keep his Throne (Naples): The Great Powers of Europe will never accept a king being removed from his throne so forcefully, and Ferdinand is one of the rare monarchs that retain two titles of the same Rank, Sicily, and Naples. You will take one, and remove the other, controlling the southern Italian Peninsula. (Grants +20. The Kingdom of Sicily will be transferred to the French Republic, with the administration transitioning towards a republic)
-[X] Pay War Reparations (Light): The King will pay, from his state coffers a sum of money to the French State. (+5 The Payments that the king will need to pay are negligible to his economy.)
-[X] Permanent Naval Docking Rights: The French Navy needs to have bases to maintain supply with your army and any future operations. (+10. The Navy will have a base in Syracuse, and the city will be under French control, and administration)
-[X] Garrisons: You will be setting up Garrisons to Secure French interests on the Island will be normally under French control (+5 The island will be under French Occupation)
 
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[X] Plan: Long Live the Republic!
-[X]Allow Ferdinand to keep his Throne (Naples): The Great Powers of Europe will never accept a king being removed from his throne so forcefully, and Ferdinand is one of the rare monarchs that retain two titles of the same Rank, Sicily, and Naples. You will take one, and remove the other, controlling the southern Italian Peninsula. (Grants +20. The Kingdom of Sicily will be transferred to the French Republic, with the administration transitioning towards a republic)
-[X]Permanent Naval Docking Rights: The French Navy needs to have bases to maintain supply with your army and any future operations. (+10. The Navy will have a base in Syracuse, and the city will be under French control, and administration)
 
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