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The Path Unending (A Cultivation Quest)

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KreenWarrior said:
Tl,dr: If we want to DD FV, now's the time for 4-6y action Craft plans, not 0-1 action craft plans.
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Totally understand your argument about people (me included) wanting to DD fractal but putting less actions into it. My only concern with that is that we need to do certain actions before the fight that we might not be able to accomplish if we put in 4+ actions on Fractal every week. Getting Plume ready, improving Shatter (which should be an every week action imo) and doing Kumi's scrolls to improve our cycling (which will help with Fractal later) are pretty mandatory. And same with Tournament since we keep pushing it off. I think we can find a middle ground if 2-3 actions of fractal a week until it's finished, maybe 4-5 actions the week after the fight if nothing plot relevant comes up. Doing 4+ actions now will hurt our chances against the Phantom Point, especially if we don't finish the charm by then (which I wouldn't want to anyway cause DD).

I like your plan too tho lol, just means we need to do Plume cycling next week instead of this week, which isn't that big a deal to me.
 
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[x] Plan Blood, Sweat and Stars

Basically what I want lol, just gotta make sure we do plume next week and we should be all set!

Bandwagon to victory 😤
 
[X] A bit of everything goes a long way.
-[] You are now a member of the Eighth Circle, and as such, your time is no longer your own. Elder Siani and his Caretakers require your service.
-[] Kumi has gifted you a small stack of training manuals that focus on various breathing techniques. There is no new information here, but there is familiar knowledge presented in unfamiliar ways. By reviewing these teachings, perhaps you will be able to further refine your breathing technique.
-[] You have finished planning how to best use The Love Transfixed and images of a multifaceted puzzle dance through your head. You will settle into your workstation and turn your imaginings into reality.
-[] Mo Hanying has begun work on her grand competition and you are in charge of judging the charmcrafters. Twelve currently remain with three weeks to go. You shall meet with 'your' charmcrafters and continue winnowing them down.
-[] Zhuan Kun is always on the lookout for new and interesting opponents. Though you have fought him in the past, that was a long time ago, before certain events occurred in your life. With your talon and claw more firmly under your control, it is time to test your mettle against the best once again.
-[] The only true way to walk your path is to cycle the anam of the world. You will do so.
--[] Cloud's Breath
---[] An Elegant Plume
-[] The only true way to walk your path is to cycle the anam of the world. You will do so.
--[] A Second of Eternity
---[] Shatter The Mirror
 
KreenWarrior said:
I added an "Order 2 G2 Smoke Pills" action to Shouxi. Hope that doesn't change anyone's mind.
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We can't break our sect point bank on Smoke pills. We should have a healing pill for the fight as well. We need something to replenish anam as well and I dunno if you want to use a 2G smoke pill for that or a 2G Basic aspect pill. The smoke costs 2 sect points more.

We have some grade 1 pills we can use but then we're limited to an extra 5 anam and a healing for the fight and an extra 5 anam is just enough to activate the box.
 
Edkose said:
We can't break our sect point bank on Smoke pills. We should have a healing pill for the fight as well. We need something to replenish anam as well and I dunno if you want to use a 2G smoke pill for that or a 2G Basic aspect pill. The smoke costs 2 sect points more.

We have some grade 1 pills we can use but then we're limited to an extra 5 anam and a healing for the fight and an extra 5 anam is just enough to activate the box.
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Shouxi's pills aren't priced based on rarity as far as I know? It's 4 points per aspect.
 
That was a lovely update. It seems some of the social actions have changed.

[] Fa is undergoing one of the most harrowing trials she can endure: a trip to the Archives. With Jai Shouxi busy with his own pursuits, she has no aid in her war against the shelves. Be her guiding light. Fa has vanished within the confines of the Archives. Sometimes you can even still hear her voice.
Fa seems to have lost herself in the archives, maybe searching for new techs?

[x] Plan Blood, Sweat and Stars
 
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KreenWarrior said:
This boils down to "we want to work extra hard on Fractal, so we need to do less work on it."

I understand your argument, but it's resting on at least one assumption - that once we have the Deer fight over with, we won't have another deadline and will have more time. I'm highly skeptical.

FV is already late. We probably should have finished it before the Deeps. Since we didn't, Ves gave us this period right now to be our downtime to finish projects like FV and Fa's axe. In four weeks of play, we've put 2 actions into it. It's not great. We put off FV to prep for the Deeps. Now we put it off to prep for the Deerfight. Which turned out to be a week or two later than the prevailing theory, so more time put off. How long do we wait? I don't see any convincing reason why things will lighten up after the Deer - after all, that's when we'll have finished our training under our Seniors and will have proved ourselves fit for duty.

Do we need to have FV finished by the deer? Probably not. We're... probably fine now, tbh. But we do need to finish FV, because we committed to it, and we need to finish Fa's axe, and that's just our backlog, not whatever will be coming for us in the next 6+ weeks. Because stuff will always be coming down the pipe. What happens when FV isn't done and Fa finally decides she's waited long enough? What happens when Siani announces he's going to be taking us on a field trip next week? What happens when Geng Tu triggers whatever he's planning on triggering?

I know I wanted ALT to be used to make a 100 BT charm. But it looks like that's not happening. Ves forced the issue precisely because we were waiting on things to be perfect. Can we please stop doing that?

Tl,dr: If we want to DD FV, now's the time for 4-6y action Craft plans, not 0-1 action craft plans.
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I am not advocating waiting for things to be perfect. I am advocating a different spread of actions before combat against a farmer-level spirit beast.

Look, I partially agree with you. It's why I mentioned that we should continue to plink away at the Fractal's BT. An ap or two a week on it feels like a decent investment on making sure the Fractal gets done in a reasonable timeframe.

But I suspect that heavily prioritizing Fractal now will in a couple of weeks lead to the argument of "we are on a timecrunch for the deer fight, we need to infuse Fractal and not DD on it because we are not ready and we need that edge for it."

Something I definitely don't want.
 
[X] A bit of everything goes a long way.

I'm all for finishing AFV with as many actions as possible the second the Deer fight is concluded, but to do that KZ needs to get through the deer fight unscathed.

I remain unconvinced that KZ will be adequately prepared if the ~7-9? actions required to complete AND infuse AND meditate on (how AFV is actually used) are used in the time prior to the fight.
 
Corvo Montés said:
That was a lovely update. It seems some of the social actions have changed.

[] Fa is undergoing one of the most harrowing trials she can endure: a trip to the Archives. With Jai Shouxi busy with his own pursuits, she has no aid in her war against the shelves. Be her guiding light. Fa has vanished within the confines of the Archives. Sometimes you can even still hear her voice.
Fa seems to have lost herself in the archives, maybe searching for new techs?
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The previous week Social Action for Jai Fa was "Jai Fa is familiarizing herself with the Spire's new defensive charms. You will attempt to help her further her understanding of these inferior devices. No, no you will not lay eyes upon your crime."

Since Kong Zhi was physically and emotionally incapable of making himself available to help her understand the mass-produced charms, Jai Fa must have decided to go into the Archives to perform her own research into the charms.
 
Just had a charm idea:

A Drop of Decadence (Mud/Steam/Time)

A sealed crystal vial carved out of a mundane gemstone and containing a drop each from The Bathhouse, The Prospector's Tears, and A Second of Eternity.

The user opens the stopper and is hit with the full benefits of a luxurious spa day all at once.

Requires recharge after each use.
 
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[x] Plan Blood, Sweat and Stars

I think that might be asking too much from Shouxi though, but I guess it doesn't matter if it take two weeks to arrive.

Not really sure why people think the Cycling Manuals are critical for anything, but I guess this does get it out of the way.

I understand the argument for doing less crafting and more training. But I'm not sure what more training we can actually do. The only two options I can think of are to test Chui Dao as a weapon and learn An Elegant Plume. Which there should be time to do next week.
If we dropped down to only doing 2 crafting actions a week, we'd have a whole 2 extra actions available to spend on what? Training Plume isn't likely to get anywhere in another 2 actions. Physical training might work, but I doubt it will be much stronger the BSA until there is much more investment. 2 extra actions into training Shatter the Mirror probably won't make a difference. (Hard to tell with the bad rolls there.) Pay for 7th circle Tutoring in something?
 
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