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The Path Unending (A Cultivation Quest)

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Oh thank god I was worried we'd have to buy more supplies if we wanted to get this done.
 
[X] Shatter, Smoke, and Craft


[] Plan: Yesterday's Craftsman

[] You are now a member of the Eighth Circle, and as such, your time is no longer your own. Elder Siani and his Caretakers require your service. (This action counts as 3 Actions. This action is mandatory.)

[] You have finished planning how to best use The Love Transfixed and images of a multifaceted puzzle dance through your head. You will settle into your workstation and turn your imaginings into reality. X2

[] Mo Hanying has begun work on her grand competition and you are in charge of judging the charmcrafters. Twelve currently remain with three weeks to go. You shall meet with 'your' charmcrafters and continue winnowing them down.

[] Kumi has gifted you a small stack of training manuals that focus on various breathing techniques. There is no new information here, but there is familiar knowledge presented in unfamiliar ways. By reviewing these teachings, perhaps you will be able to further refine your breathing technique.

[] The only true way to walk your path is to cycle the anam of the world. You will do so.
-[] A Second of Eternity
--[] Shatter the Mirror X2

I am a big fan of Cede's plan, except for the part where I feel like breaking more mirrors, and also trying to grow a tree in the second of eternity. We already have one questionably sentient item we're responsible for, at least wait until we can speak before going for another one.
 
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The Sandman said:
I'd want to know if there's anything we can drug Whatshisface with that would affect the Devil Deer when it links with him.
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We asked that question when we had the debrief with Sun Yijun. If we do anything to influence it's victim then the Phantom Point will realize something is wrong and vanish.

zang269 said:
I am a big fan of Cede's plan, except for the part where I feel like breaking more mirrors, and also trying to grow a tree in the second of eternity. We already have one questionably sentient item we're responsible for, at least wait until we can speak before going for another one.
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One part of Cede's plan that is essential is that we need to repair the Rainbow Eyes. 1s are really bad since they're not only a failure, but also they remove successes.
 
Honestly I can just change that to us thanking the Second out loud. I do wanna start the Time-chan friendship subplot at some point
 
Honestly I'm fine with Teng Lim being done, we took our time, showed him some pointers and his life is his own.

One act of charity does not a friendship make.
 
Prose_Piranha said:
One part of Cede's plan that is essential is that we need to repair the Rainbow Eyes. 1s are really bad since they're not only a failure, but also they remove successes.
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1s are a hassle, but a full action put into the Eyes is just a few more total successes than a second cycling action, and as we improve our cycling it gets less and less effective. Also, the more we practice cycling the sooner we rank up with it, probably, so I feel like it goes well to do two actions the turn we read the notes.
CedeTheBees said:
While I do agree, I also wanna get him completely out of Geng Tu's influence. The less minions he has the better.
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Yeah, shattering his base of power by making his threats less impactful is very, very important, we definitely should work on that as one of our next socials.
CedeTheBees said:
Honestly I can just change that to us thanking the Second out loud. I do wanna start the Time-chan friendship subplot at some point
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I actually missed your second plan, and now there's other differences I'm less interested in repairing the eyes. I'm also now seriously considering cycling with the pill for the first stage on Plume, because we aren't going to use a pill twice but having it in an emergency won't hurt, but maybe later, once StM is in a better state.
 
zang269 said:
I'm also now seriously considering cycling with the pill for the first stage on Plume, because we aren't going to use a pill twice but having it in an emergency won't hurt, but maybe later, once StM is in a better state.
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Idk tho. I'd prefer to have an extra attack available over just pinning everything on StM.
 
Formalising the plan I thought about earlier.

[] A bit of everything goes a long way.
-[] You are now a member of the Eighth Circle, and as such, your time is no longer your own. Elder Siani and his Caretakers require your service.
-[] Kumi has gifted you a small stack of training manuals that focus on various breathing techniques. There is no new information here, but there is familiar knowledge presented in unfamiliar ways. By reviewing these teachings, perhaps you will be able to further refine your breathing technique.
-[] You have finished planning how to best use The Love Transfixed and images of a multifaceted puzzle dance through your head. You will settle into your workstation and turn your imaginings into reality.
-[] Mo Hanying has begun work on her grand competition and you are in charge of judging the charmcrafters. Twelve currently remain with three weeks to go. You shall meet with 'your' charmcrafters and continue winnowing them down.
-[] Zhuan Kun is always on the lookout for new and interesting opponents. Though you have fought him in the past, that was a long time ago, before certain events occurred in your life. With your talon and claw more firmly under your control, it is time to test your mettle against the best once again.
-[] The only true way to walk your path is to cycle the anam of the world. You will do so.
--[] Cloud's Breath
---[] An Elegant Plume
-[] The only true way to walk your path is to cycle the anam of the world. You will do so.
--[] A Second of Eternity
---[] Shatter The Mirror

I don't need to relitigate my thoughts on why I don't think doing a heavy AFV turn for completion prior to the Deer fight is the right choice.

I think Zhaun Kun is one of the largest plot threads that needs to be taken up. The way to blunt Geng Tu's attempts to mess with KZ (& Nokai, I guess) is to get 2 out of the 3 nobles on KZ's side. I'm also interested in doing what looks like hybrid action looks like (from the wording) given there are a number of them all revolving around combat showing up recently, something that could be pretty good given KZ has a solo combat encounter coming up.
 
Mr8 said:
I think Zhaun Kun is one of the largest plot threads that needs to be taken up. The way to blunt Geng Tu's attempts to mess with KZ (& Nokai, I guess) is to get 2 out of the 3 nobles on KZ's side. I'm also interested in doing what looks like hybrid action looks like (from the wording) given there are a number of them all revolving around combat showing up recently, something that could be pretty good given KZ has a solo combat encounter coming up.
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Honestly? I'm down for that. I do think we should fix the Eyes at some point tho.
 
CedeTheBees said:
Idk tho. I'd prefer to have an extra attack available over just pinning everything on StM.
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Entirely fair point, but given the dicepool, the first level seems like it's mostly worth taking as utility, and taking multiple pills to get it higher is somewhat against the spirit of things.
Also, if we ever have a somewhat relaxed period of time with Nokai and Xu Yun, I want to teach her how to swear like a sailor. She seems like learning radiant would bring up bad memories, but learning how to call someone a limp-dick shitweasel horsefucker with proper grammer seems like it would be fun. And applicable, given Geng Tu.
 
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zang269 said:
Also, if we ever have a somewhat relaxed period of time with Nokai and Xu Yub, I want to teach her how to swear like a sailor. She seems like learning radiant would bring up bad memories, but learning how to call someone a limp-dick shitweasel horsefucker with proper grammer seems like it would be fun. And applicable, given Geng Tu.
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Sounds perfect for the Bathhouse 👀

Let's do it next week! We need the mental heal anyways
 
I don't support prioritizing crafting, as I am still in favor of DD on Fractal. Plinking away at it with 1-2 action a week is fine (we will need to reach BT eventually anyway) but not anything more before the Phantom Point hunt.

I am saying this to any other voter who feels the same as me regarding DD, ie. that the Fractal narrativelly deserves to be doubled downed upon.

Voting for more crafting actions (right now) essentially means voting for not doubling down on Fractal.
 
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[X] Shatter, Smoke, and Craft
-[] You are now a member of the Eighth Circle, and as such, your time is no longer your own. Elder Siani and his Caretakers require your service.
-[] Kumi has gifted you a small stack of training manuals that focus on various breathing techniques. There is no new information here, but there is familiar knowledge presented in unfamiliar ways. By reviewing these teachings, perhaps you will be able to further refine your breathing technique.
-[] You have finished planning how to best use The Love Transfixed and images of a multifaceted puzzle dance through your head. You will settle into your workstation and turn your imaginings into reality. X2
-[] Mo Hanying has begun work on her grand competition and you are in charge of judging the charmcrafters. Twelve currently remain with three weeks to go. You shall meet with 'your' charmcrafters and continue winnowing them down.
-[]The only true way to walk your path is to cycle the anam of the world. You will do so.
--[] Cloud's Breath and use Gasp
---[] An Elegant Plume
-[]The only true way to walk your path is to cycle the anam of the world. You will do so.
--[] A Second of Eternity
---[] Shatter The Mirror

3x Caretakers (which will probably be combat focused)
2x Fractal to continue progress
1X Kumi Scrolls to Improve our cycling efficiency for our techniques and for the next step of fractal
1X Mo's tournament to meet our obligations, tho we still need to plan a test
1X Shatter for consistent progress
1X Plume to get it ready for the Phantom Point fight.

Basically, prioritize our cycling efficiency, and getting our techs ready for the fight. Still keep working on the charm but I'm not inclined to rushing it and getting it done before the fight. Do one tournament action now and another in the final week. We need Plume to help with the fight and we should always do one Shatter action each week to get it integrated soon.

Btw @Vesvius do we need to have a plan for what challenge we'll give the tournament Participants right now or will we be able to do that later on in the week?

Also I love the Nokai scene!!! Really well written and emotional. Cool trait as well! KZxNokai is now Zhao approved!
 
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zang269 said:
[X] Plan: Yesterday's Craftsman

[] You are now a member of the Eighth Circle, and as such, your time is no longer your own. Elder Siani and his Caretakers require your service. (This action counts as 3 Actions. This action is mandatory.)

[] You have finished planning how to best use The Love Transfixed and images of a multifaceted puzzle dance through your head. You will settle into your workstation and turn your imaginings into reality. X2

[] Mo Hanying has begun work on her grand competition and you are in charge of judging the charmcrafters. Twelve currently remain with three weeks to go. You shall meet with 'your' charmcrafters and continue winnowing them down.

[] Kumi has gifted you a small stack of training manuals that focus on various breathing techniques. There is no new information here, but there is familiar knowledge presented in unfamiliar ways. By reviewing these teachings, perhaps you will be able to further refine your breathing technique.

[] The only true way to walk your path is to cycle the anam of the world. You will do so.
-[] A Second of Eternity
--[] Shatter the Mirror X2

I am a big fan of Cede's plan, except for the part where I feel like breaking more mirrors, and also trying to grow a tree in the second of eternity. We already have one questionably sentient item we're responsible for, at least wait until we can speak before going for another one.
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Rah13 said:
Edit: Voting is live, edited in the X's to not double post

[X] Shatter, Smoke, and Craft
-[X] You are now a member of the Eighth Circle, and as such, your time is no longer your own. Elder Siani and his Caretakers require your service.
-[X] Kumi has gifted you a small stack of training manuals that focus on various breathing techniques. There is no new information here, but there is familiar knowledge presented in unfamiliar ways. By reviewing these teachings, perhaps you will be able to further refine your breathing technique.
-[X] You have finished planning how to best use The Love Transfixed and images of a multifaceted puzzle dance through your head. You will settle into your workstation and turn your imaginings into reality. X2
-[X] Mo Hanying has begun work on her grand competition and you are in charge of judging the charmcrafters. Twelve currently remain with three weeks to go. You shall meet with 'your' charmcrafters and continue winnowing them down.
-[X] The only true way to walk your path is to cycle the anam of the world. You will do so.
--[X] Cloud's Breath and use Gasp
---[X] An Elegant Plume
-[X] The only true way to walk your path is to cycle the anam of the world. You will do so.
--[X] A Second of Eternity
---[X] Shatter The Mirror
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I'm just putting this in a quote because these plans are almost identical, and I'm almost considering switching to it because the difference has a really strong argument for it. Actually I'm just going to switch it now I like that one better.
 
Horium said:
I don't support prioritizing crafting, as I am still in favor of DD on Fractal. Plinking away at it with 1-2 action a week is fine (we will need to reach BT eventually anyway) but not anything more before the Phantom Point hunt.

I am saying this to any other voter who feels the same as me regarding DD, ie. that the Fractal narrativelly deserves to be doubled downed upon.

Voting for more crafting actions (right now) essentially means voting for not doubling down on Fractal.
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This boils down to "we want to work extra hard on Fractal, so we need to do less work on it."

I understand your argument, but it's resting on at least one assumption - that once we have the Deer fight over with, we won't have another deadline and will have more time. I'm highly skeptical.

FV is already late. We probably should have finished it before the Deeps. Since we didn't, Ves gave us this period right now to be our downtime to finish projects like FV and Fa's axe. In four weeks of play, we've put 2 actions into it. It's not great. We put off FV to prep for the Deeps. Now we put it off to prep for the Deerfight. Which turned out to be a week or two later than the prevailing theory, so more time put off. How long do we wait? I don't see any convincing reason why things will lighten up after the Deer - after all, that's when we'll have finished our training under our Seniors and will have proved ourselves fit for duty.

Do we need to have FV finished by the deer? Probably not. We're... probably fine now, tbh. But we do need to finish FV, because we committed to it, and we need to finish Fa's axe, and that's just our backlog, not whatever will be coming for us in the next 6+ weeks. Because stuff will always be coming down the pipe. What happens when FV isn't done and Fa finally decides she's waited long enough? What happens when Siani announces he's going to be taking us on a field trip next week? What happens when Geng Tu triggers whatever he's planning on triggering?

I know I wanted ALT to be used to make a 100 BT charm. But it looks like that's not happening. Ves forced the issue precisely because we were waiting on things to be perfect. Can we please stop doing that?

Tl,dr: If we want to DD FV, now's the time for 4-6y action Craft plans, not 0-1 action craft plans.
 
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I love that we all basically have the same plan with just a few minor differences. It's nice to be in such close agreement for once.
 
[x] Plan Blood, Sweat and Stars
-[] You are now a member of the Eighth Circle, and as such, your time is no longer your own. Elder Siani and his Caretakers require your service. (This action counts as 3 Actions. This action is mandatory.)
-[] You have finished planning how to best use The Love Transfixed and images of a multifaceted puzzle dance through your head. You will settle into your workstation and turn your imaginings into reality. x3
-[] Mo Hanying has begun work on her grand competition and you are in charge of judging the charmcrafters. Twelve currently remain with three weeks to go. You shall meet with 'your' charmcrafters and continue winnowing them down.
-[] Kumi has gifted you a small stack of training manuals that focus on various breathing techniques. There is no new information here, but there is familiar knowledge presented in unfamiliar ways. By reviewing these teachings, perhaps you will be able to further refine your breathing technique.
-[] The only true way to walk your path is to cycle the anam of the world. You will do so.
--[] A Second of Eternity
---[] Shatter the Mirror
-[] Jai Shouxi has recently indicated that his skills as a refiner are now available for purchase. While he may not have the backstock that the Inner Market has, he is a touch cheaper- if riskier. (Does not count as an option. Jai Shouxi can make you a maximum of 5 pills per action.) 1x Grade 2 Wind, 1x Grade 1 Healing Pill
 
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