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- The state of Paranoia
I think we cut off the reign of terror early, so there's probably been less than 27,000 deaths.
La Chanson de la Victoire (The Song of Victory): La Petite Arpenteuse (Non, SV, you are a General of France in the Napoleonic War!)
- Thread starter Plausbius
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- Mature Alt. History
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- Somewhere
Honestly, I actually wish we knew what the hell was going on in the government, was Hebert ever dealt with? Did Jacques Roux and the Enrages still rise and cause trouble? Did Fabre d'Eglantine still commit fraud when he was sent to liquidate the East India Company? Is Camille Desmoulins still kicking? What about Couthon or Saint-Just? Did Robespierre ever successfully persecute Fouche?
- Location
- UK
Did, or in fact did not, Elsa let it go?
Nenshou Yuuki
I will fail you in every way
- Location
- London
Is it possible to just try them for their crimess?
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- Somewhere
Well she let go of the cape and the crown, so yeah, she did let it go.
But seriously, the politics here are very murky, we have no in to the mechanisms of the Committee of Public Safety or the Committee of General Security. For all we know, as Napoleon himself believed, Robespierre was planning to moderate the terror. Oddly enough, some historians that don't even like Robespierre all that much like J.M. Thompson and Hillaire Beloc believed that Robespierre wanted to end the terror and you'd know it if you read the papers at the time according to them.
I actually put in a write in action of putting them through trial, Robespierre and his followers all, also last one was we be calm and talk to Napoleon directly instead of being angry. Really, if we just put Robespierre on trial and put the blame on him, we'd be missing the actual criminals, the one with actual blood on their hands. Fouche escaped pretty handily despite committing some pretty horrible stuff in Lyon and a whole lot of worse people got off scott free in real life.
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- canada
[X] [Rob] Imprisonment: Criminals are to be imprisoned, and Robespierre is no different. He shall be imprisoned by the state, to live and see the growth of the republic, without his influence. Keep your enemies close, as it were.
[X] [Lackeys] Imprisonment: France may still need them close to home... but they will not serve as free men. They will be imprisoned where we may keep an eye on them.
These guys are too dangerous to be free but more executions as a start to a new ruling group in France is a HOPRRIBLE idea. Better we start by showing the rule of law is our foremost ideal and we will not sink to the lows of our predecessor government no matter the danger they may pose to us.
[X] [Napoleon] Yes: He used you. He had better come up with a damn good reason for you not to kill him. You have some stern words for him. (Continuing the Life of Brian.)
I am guessing this is to prevent him from becoming the Emperor? I just hope it does not hurt his relations with Therese.
just in case there was a moratorium despite there not being a note saying so.
[X] [Lackeys] Imprisonment: France may still need them close to home... but they will not serve as free men. They will be imprisoned where we may keep an eye on them.
These guys are too dangerous to be free but more executions as a start to a new ruling group in France is a HOPRRIBLE idea. Better we start by showing the rule of law is our foremost ideal and we will not sink to the lows of our predecessor government no matter the danger they may pose to us.
[X] [Napoleon] Yes: He used you. He had better come up with a damn good reason for you not to kill him. You have some stern words for him. (Continuing the Life of Brian.)
I am guessing this is to prevent him from becoming the Emperor? I just hope it does not hurt his relations with Therese.
just in case there was a moratorium despite there not being a note saying so.
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- She/Her
[X] [Rob] Imprisonment: Criminals are to be imprisoned, and Robespierre is no different. He shall be imprisoned by the state, to live and see the growth of the republic, without his influence. Keep your enemies close, as it were.
[X] [Lackeys] Imprisonment: France may still need them close to home... but they will not serve as free men. They will be imprisoned where we may keep an eye on them.
[X] [Napoleon] No: There is enough chaos and mistrust in the state as is. You will bide your time to meet him about this... unhappy dispute. (We return to Thérèse and the Army of the Rhine, and we see how the rest of the world is holding up.)
Moratorium over
[X] [Lackeys] Imprisonment: France may still need them close to home... but they will not serve as free men. They will be imprisoned where we may keep an eye on them.
[X] [Napoleon] No: There is enough chaos and mistrust in the state as is. You will bide your time to meet him about this... unhappy dispute. (We return to Thérèse and the Army of the Rhine, and we see how the rest of the world is holding up.)
Moratorium over
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- Somewhere
[X] [Rob] Trial: France has been in fear for much too long, the show trials have gone on for too long, what it needs is justice. So France shall receive it, Robespierre, once The Incorruptible and perhaps still is, shall be given trial, a free and fair trial. For the good of France and the Revolution.
[X] [Lackeys] Trial: Simply tossing them in prison or killing them shall be insufficient, they shall not die because of simple association as thousands already have, they shall be treated fairly as all Frenchmen should.
[X] [Napoleon] Talk: You shall speak to Napoleon with a clear mind and an open one. Perhaps he has manipulated you, perhaps he has not, you shall speak with him to understand his motivations and clear any misconceptions. (Continue with The Life of Brian.)
What France has a lack of is justice and calm. The Terror didn't come out of nowhere, it stemmed from a terrified populace with everything to lose, we must show ourselves to be above such attitudes. So the accused shall have their rights and we shall act like the grown ups we are and talk it out.
Also, if possible, I give 50 or as much as my points to Robespierre's trial in his favor if mine wins. I have a preference for him, and want him to get out of this with his head held high.
Last also, if I have to give it a name, I'll call it Plan Blah Blah Blah, Fancy Sounding Title.
[X] [Lackeys] Trial: Simply tossing them in prison or killing them shall be insufficient, they shall not die because of simple association as thousands already have, they shall be treated fairly as all Frenchmen should.
[X] [Napoleon] Talk: You shall speak to Napoleon with a clear mind and an open one. Perhaps he has manipulated you, perhaps he has not, you shall speak with him to understand his motivations and clear any misconceptions. (Continue with The Life of Brian.)
What France has a lack of is justice and calm. The Terror didn't come out of nowhere, it stemmed from a terrified populace with everything to lose, we must show ourselves to be above such attitudes. So the accused shall have their rights and we shall act like the grown ups we are and talk it out.
Also, if possible, I give 50 or as much as my points to Robespierre's trial in his favor if mine wins. I have a preference for him, and want him to get out of this with his head held high.
Last also, if I have to give it a name, I'll call it Plan Blah Blah Blah, Fancy Sounding Title.
Nenshou Yuuki
I will fail you in every way
- Location
- London
[X] [Rob] Trial: France has been in fear for much too long, the show trials have gone on for too long, what it needs is justice. So France shall receive it, Robespierre, once The Incorruptible and perhaps still is, shall be given trial, a free and fair trial. For the good of France and the Revolution.
[X] [Lackeys] Trial: Simply tossing them in prison or killing them shall be insufficient, they shall not die because of simple association as thousands already have, they shall be treated fairly as all Frenchmen should.
[X] [Napoleon] Talk: You shall speak to Napoleon with a clear mind and an open one. Perhaps he has manipulated you, perhaps he has not, you shall speak with him to understand his motivations and clear any misconceptions. (Continue with The Life of Brian.)
Like that?
[X] [Lackeys] Trial: Simply tossing them in prison or killing them shall be insufficient, they shall not die because of simple association as thousands already have, they shall be treated fairly as all Frenchmen should.
[X] [Napoleon] Talk: You shall speak to Napoleon with a clear mind and an open one. Perhaps he has manipulated you, perhaps he has not, you shall speak with him to understand his motivations and clear any misconceptions. (Continue with The Life of Brian.)
Like that?
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- Somewhere
Yeah, that's nice.
ThatGuyWithIdeas
Treize died for our sins
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- Romania
[X] [Rob] Imprisonment: Criminals are to be imprisoned, and Robespierre is no different. He shall be imprisoned by the state, to live and see the growth of the republic, without his influence. Keep your enemies close, as it were.
[X] [Lackeys] Imprisonment: France may still need them close to home... but they will not serve as free men. They will be imprisoned where we may keep an eye on them.
[X] [Napoleon] No: There is enough chaos and mistrust in the state as is. You will bide your time to meet him about this... unhappy dispute. (We return to Thérèse and the Army of the Rhine, and we see how the rest of the world is holding up.)
[X] [Lackeys] Imprisonment: France may still need them close to home... but they will not serve as free men. They will be imprisoned where we may keep an eye on them.
[X] [Napoleon] No: There is enough chaos and mistrust in the state as is. You will bide your time to meet him about this... unhappy dispute. (We return to Thérèse and the Army of the Rhine, and we see how the rest of the world is holding up.)
Kicker
A perfectionist with an inferiority complex.
- Location
- Malaysia
[X] [Rob] Imprisonment: Criminals are to be imprisoned, and Robespierre is no different. He shall be imprisoned by the state, to live and see the growth of the republic, without his influence. Keep your enemies close, as it were.
[X] [Lackeys] Imprisonment: France may still need them close to home... but they will not serve as free men. They will be imprisoned where we may keep an eye on them.
[X] [Napoleon] No: There is enough chaos and mistrust in the state as is. You will bide your time to meet him about this... unhappy dispute. (We return to Thérèse and the Army of the Rhine, and we see how the rest of the world is holding up.)
Oh hey, we have 60k troops now. Hope Jourdan brings in more cavalry and cannons.
[X] [Lackeys] Imprisonment: France may still need them close to home... but they will not serve as free men. They will be imprisoned where we may keep an eye on them.
[X] [Napoleon] No: There is enough chaos and mistrust in the state as is. You will bide your time to meet him about this... unhappy dispute. (We return to Thérèse and the Army of the Rhine, and we see how the rest of the world is holding up.)
Oh hey, we have 60k troops now. Hope Jourdan brings in more cavalry and cannons.
NoxOfUmbra
Shadow of the night
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- Colombia, South América
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- He/Him/His
[X] [Rob] Trial: France has been in fear for much too long, the show trials have gone on for too long, what it needs is justice. So France shall receive it, Robespierre, once The Incorruptible and perhaps still is, shall be given trial, a free and fair trial. For the good of France and the Revolution.
[X] [Lackeys] Trial: Simply tossing them in prison or killing them shall be insufficient, they shall not die because of simple association as thousands already have, they shall be treated fairly as all Frenchmen should.
[X] [Napoleon] Talk: You shall speak to Napoleon with a clear mind and an open one. Perhaps he has manipulated you, perhaps he has not, you shall speak with him to understand his motivations and clear any misconceptions. (Continue with The Life of Brian.)
Middle road always nice, not excess nor lack, like Aristotle wanted. If not possible the write in then someone pls ping me so i can change my vote
[X] [Lackeys] Trial: Simply tossing them in prison or killing them shall be insufficient, they shall not die because of simple association as thousands already have, they shall be treated fairly as all Frenchmen should.
[X] [Napoleon] Talk: You shall speak to Napoleon with a clear mind and an open one. Perhaps he has manipulated you, perhaps he has not, you shall speak with him to understand his motivations and clear any misconceptions. (Continue with The Life of Brian.)
Middle road always nice, not excess nor lack, like Aristotle wanted. If not possible the write in then someone pls ping me so i can change my vote
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- Somewhere
I find that the dice kind of makes every action we take irrelevant. We could fucking dance around naked in front of the Committee of Public Safety and if its a good dice roll, there wouldn't really be any significant consequences to it, feels like relying on it too much cheapens things.
Chimeraguard
We do deserve to exist.
[X] [Rob] Trial: France has been in fear for much too long, the show trials have gone on for too long, what it needs is justice. So France shall receive it, Robespierre, once The Incorruptible and perhaps still is, shall be given trial, a free and fair trial. For the good of France and the Revolution.
[X] [Lackeys] Trial: Simply tossing them in prison or killing them shall be insufficient, they shall not die because of simple association as thousands already have, they shall be treated fairly as all Frenchmen should.
[X] [Napoleon] Talk: You shall speak to Napoleon with a clear mind and an open one. Perhaps he has manipulated you, perhaps he has not, you shall speak with him to understand his motivations and clear any misconceptions. (Continue with The Life of Brian.)
[X] [Lackeys] Trial: Simply tossing them in prison or killing them shall be insufficient, they shall not die because of simple association as thousands already have, they shall be treated fairly as all Frenchmen should.
[X] [Napoleon] Talk: You shall speak to Napoleon with a clear mind and an open one. Perhaps he has manipulated you, perhaps he has not, you shall speak with him to understand his motivations and clear any misconceptions. (Continue with The Life of Brian.)
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Kicker
A perfectionist with an inferiority complex.
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- Malaysia
Nenshou Yuuki
I will fail you in every way
- Location
- London
Edited it.
You'll want to do the same
Macros
omnisciently vague councilman
- Location
- Dirac Sea
[X] [Rob] Imprisonment: Criminals are to be imprisoned, and Robespierre is no different. He shall be imprisoned by the state, to live and see the growth of the republic, without his influence. Keep your enemies close, as it were.
[X] [Lackeys] Imprisonment: France may still need them close to home... but they will not serve as free men. They will be imprisoned where we may keep an eye on them.
[X] [Napoleon] No: There is enough chaos and mistrust in the state as is. You will bide your time to meet him about this... unhappy dispute. (We return to Thérèse and the Army of the Rhine, and we see how the rest of the world is holding up.)
[X] [Lackeys] Imprisonment: France may still need them close to home... but they will not serve as free men. They will be imprisoned where we may keep an eye on them.
[X] [Napoleon] No: There is enough chaos and mistrust in the state as is. You will bide your time to meet him about this... unhappy dispute. (We return to Thérèse and the Army of the Rhine, and we see how the rest of the world is holding up.)
- Location
- UK
[X] [Rob] Imprisonment: Criminals are to be imprisoned, and Robespierre is no different. He shall be imprisoned by the state, to live and see the growth of the republic, without his influence. Keep your enemies close, as it were.
[X] [Lackeys] Imprisonment: France may still need them close to home... but they will not serve as free men. They will be imprisoned where we may keep an eye on them.
[X] [Napoleon] No: There is enough chaos and mistrust in the state as is. You will bide your time to meet him about this... unhappy dispute. (We return to Thérèse and the Army of the Rhine, and we see how the rest of the world is holding up.)
[X] [Lackeys] Imprisonment: France may still need them close to home... but they will not serve as free men. They will be imprisoned where we may keep an eye on them.
[X] [Napoleon] No: There is enough chaos and mistrust in the state as is. You will bide your time to meet him about this... unhappy dispute. (We return to Thérèse and the Army of the Rhine, and we see how the rest of the world is holding up.)
Random Member
Gardener of Human Happiness
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- Behind You
Ah typical, so much talk about justice and freedom and complaining about Terror, but in the end people go with what's more expedient for themselves than for what's actually just.
[X] [Rob] Trial: France has been in fear for much too long, the show trials have gone on for too long, what it needs is justice. So France shall receive it, Robespierre, once The Incorruptible and perhaps still is, shall be given trial, a free and fair trial. For the good of France and the Revolution.
[X] [Lackeys] Trial: Simply tossing them in prison or killing them shall be insufficient, they shall not die because of simple association as thousands already have, they shall be treated fairly as all Frenchmen should.
[X] [Napoleon] Talk: You shall speak to Napoleon with a clear mind and an open one. Perhaps he has manipulated you, perhaps he has not, you shall speak with him to understand his motivations and clear any misconceptions. (Continue with The Life of Brian.)
If Rob and the Committee are so guilty, why not just give them a fair trial? What are you so afraid of?
[X] [Rob] Trial: France has been in fear for much too long, the show trials have gone on for too long, what it needs is justice. So France shall receive it, Robespierre, once The Incorruptible and perhaps still is, shall be given trial, a free and fair trial. For the good of France and the Revolution.
[X] [Lackeys] Trial: Simply tossing them in prison or killing them shall be insufficient, they shall not die because of simple association as thousands already have, they shall be treated fairly as all Frenchmen should.
[X] [Napoleon] Talk: You shall speak to Napoleon with a clear mind and an open one. Perhaps he has manipulated you, perhaps he has not, you shall speak with him to understand his motivations and clear any misconceptions. (Continue with The Life of Brian.)
If Rob and the Committee are so guilty, why not just give them a fair trial? What are you so afraid of?
Sir_Travelsalot
Never wakes up tired.
- Location
- At Home
[X] [Rob] Trial: France has been in fear for much too long, the show trials have gone on for too long, what it needs is justice. So France shall receive it, Robespierre, once The Incorruptible and perhaps still is, shall be given trial, a free and fair trial. For the good of France and the Revolution.
[X] [Lackeys] Trial: Simply tossing them in prison or killing them shall be insufficient, they shall not die because of simple association as thousands already have, they shall be treated fairly as all Frenchmen should.
[X] [Napoleon] Talk: You shall speak to Napoleon with a clear mind and an open one. Perhaps he has manipulated you, perhaps he has not, you shall speak with him to understand his motivations and clear any misconceptions. (Continue with The Life of Brian.)
[X] [Lackeys] Trial: Simply tossing them in prison or killing them shall be insufficient, they shall not die because of simple association as thousands already have, they shall be treated fairly as all Frenchmen should.
[X] [Napoleon] Talk: You shall speak to Napoleon with a clear mind and an open one. Perhaps he has manipulated you, perhaps he has not, you shall speak with him to understand his motivations and clear any misconceptions. (Continue with The Life of Brian.)
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- My house, probably
- Pronouns
- He/Him
[X] [Rob] Trial: France has been in fear for much too long, the show trials have gone on for too long, what it needs is justice. So France shall receive it, Robespierre, once The Incorruptible and perhaps still is, shall be given trial, a free and fair trial. For the good of France and the Revolution.
[X] [Lackeys] Trial: Simply tossing them in prison or killing them shall be insufficient, they shall not die because of simple association as thousands already have, they shall be treated fairly as all Frenchmen should.
[X] [Napoleon] Talk: You shall speak to Napoleon with a clear mind and an open one. Perhaps he has manipulated you, perhaps he has not, you shall speak with him to understand his motivations and clear any misconceptions. (Continue with The Life of Brian.)
[X] [Lackeys] Trial: Simply tossing them in prison or killing them shall be insufficient, they shall not die because of simple association as thousands already have, they shall be treated fairly as all Frenchmen should.
[X] [Napoleon] Talk: You shall speak to Napoleon with a clear mind and an open one. Perhaps he has manipulated you, perhaps he has not, you shall speak with him to understand his motivations and clear any misconceptions. (Continue with The Life of Brian.)
- Location
- leiden (NL)
[X] [Rob] Imprisonment: Criminals are to be imprisoned, and Robespierre is no different. He shall be imprisoned by the state, to live and see the growth of the republic, without his influence. Keep your enemies close, as it were.
[X] [Lackeys] Imprisonment: France may still need them close to home... but they will not serve as free men. They will be imprisoned where we may keep an eye on them.
[X] [Napoleon] Talk: You shall speak to Napoleon with a clear mind and an open one. Perhaps he has manipulated you, perhaps he has not, you shall speak with him to understand his motivations and clear any misconceptions. (Continue with The Life of Brian.)
[X] [Lackeys] Imprisonment: France may still need them close to home... but they will not serve as free men. They will be imprisoned where we may keep an eye on them.
[X] [Napoleon] Talk: You shall speak to Napoleon with a clear mind and an open one. Perhaps he has manipulated you, perhaps he has not, you shall speak with him to understand his motivations and clear any misconceptions. (Continue with The Life of Brian.)
UNKNOWN01
Nobody knows me... I feel lonely!
- Location
- Nowhere
- Pronouns
- He/Him
[X] [Rob] Trial: France has been in fear for much too long, the show trials have gone on for too long, what it needs is justice. So France shall receive it, Robespierre, once The Incorruptible and perhaps still is, shall be given trial, a free and fair trial. For the good of France and the Revolution.
[X] [Lackeys] Trial: Simply tossing them in prison or killing them shall be insufficient, they shall not die because of simple association as thousands already have, they shall be treated fairly as all Frenchmen should.
The best choice from the ones we have; No matter how this goes (unless Rob manages a miracle, which i hope he doesn't), we will manage to reduce the unrest that the other options will produce and we will gain legitimacy in the eyes of the people, even if it's just a little.
[X] [Napoleon] Talk: You shall speak to Napoleon with a clear mind and an open one. Perhaps he has manipulated you, perhaps he has not, you shall speak with him to understand his motivations and clear any misconceptions. (Continue with The Life of Brian.)
Im interested, really interested in this.
[X] [Lackeys] Trial: Simply tossing them in prison or killing them shall be insufficient, they shall not die because of simple association as thousands already have, they shall be treated fairly as all Frenchmen should.
The best choice from the ones we have; No matter how this goes (unless Rob manages a miracle, which i hope he doesn't), we will manage to reduce the unrest that the other options will produce and we will gain legitimacy in the eyes of the people, even if it's just a little.
[X] [Napoleon] Talk: You shall speak to Napoleon with a clear mind and an open one. Perhaps he has manipulated you, perhaps he has not, you shall speak with him to understand his motivations and clear any misconceptions. (Continue with The Life of Brian.)
Im interested, really interested in this.
[X] [Rob] Trial: France has been in fear for much too long, the show trials have gone on for too long, what it needs is justice. So France shall receive it, Robespierre, once The Incorruptible and perhaps still is, shall be given trial, a free and fair trial. For the good of France and the Revolution.
[X] [Lackeys] Trial: Simply tossing them in prison or killing them shall be insufficient, they shall not die because of simple association as thousands already have, they shall be treated fairly as all Frenchmen should.
[X] [Napoleon] Talk: You shall speak to Napoleon with a clear mind and an open one. Perhaps he has manipulated you, perhaps he has not, you shall speak with him to understand his motivations and clear any misconceptions. (Continue with The Life of Brian.)
[X] [Lackeys] Trial: Simply tossing them in prison or killing them shall be insufficient, they shall not die because of simple association as thousands already have, they shall be treated fairly as all Frenchmen should.
[X] [Napoleon] Talk: You shall speak to Napoleon with a clear mind and an open one. Perhaps he has manipulated you, perhaps he has not, you shall speak with him to understand his motivations and clear any misconceptions. (Continue with The Life of Brian.)