Step down
-[X] Though on the condition that for the moment a council rules until a child of yours claims the throne. The child will have to gain the approval of the council and will be born and raised on Jotunheim while having contact with Loki and other members of his family on Asgard to have better relations with Asgard and Jotunheim.

Why? Like seriously why?
 
Thor has the intelligence and social graces of a shaved gorilla, no surprise there. Anyone else want to copy Doom & kill the opposition then use our massive army to install a military dictatorship over Jotunheim? Just me? Okay then 😑

[X] Plan Hey, Let's Save The Love Of Loki's Life, Why Don't We?
-[X] Step down and take your stuff with you, particularly the things you need (e.g. the Forge and the Cloning Facility)
-[X] Keep it for a better time
-[X] Go to Asgard
--[X] But you're saving Sigyn first; have Egil bring you to her location and prepare for combat and the possibility of needing to exfiltrate her via willing teleportation if she's really in trouble
 
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Well this looks like another instance of Loki working hard and others profiting. Honestly is there a point in staying in the nine realms? The only thing I can think of is Thor hovering. We really need to find a way to kill him.
 
Well this looks like another instance of Loki working hard and others profiting. Honestly is there a point in staying in the nine realms? The only thing I can think of is Thor hovering. We really need to find a way to kill him.
You couldn't in this life time or the next. And I tried warning you all about the serum, but you all ignored me.
 
You couldn't in this life time or the next. And I tried warning you all about the serum, but you all ignored me.
Well I hope Jotunheim leaves the nine realms so Thor can show them the side of an elbow drop. The problem also wasn't the serum considering we thought a threat (Tyr) was coming. The problem was we didn't put failsafes on all of our stuff and make Jotunheim reliant on Loki. I
 
Well this looks like another instance of Loki working hard and others profiting. Honestly is there a point in staying in the nine realms? The only thing I can think of is Thor hovering. We really need to find a way to kill him.
You are aware that you are largely responsible for us needing to step down? You were the one that came up with the plan that wrecked Jotunheim's climate with a write in without even bothering to confirm it with the QM just to get Sigyn on world instead of just making her a freaking artifact. Not to mention that your insistence on not calling Amora to deal with the adaptoids before even trying to move everyone off world and even suggesting to bomb Jotunheim turned out to be a stupid decision that also screwed us over and is being used against us.

Though knowing you you are likely going to try to deflect any blame whatsoever for this considering your past history and inability to admit any mistakes made on your part.
 
You are aware that you are largely responsible for us needing to step down? You were the one that came up with the plan that wrecked Jotunheim's climate with a write in without even bothering to confirm it with the QM just to get Sigyn on world instead of just making her a freaking artifact. Not to mention that your insistence on not calling Amora to deal with the adaptoids before even trying to move everyone off world and even suggesting to bomb Jotunheim turned out to be a stupid decision that also screwed us over and is being used against us.

Though knowing you you are likely going to try to deflect any blame whatsoever for this considering your past history and inability to admit any mistakes made on your part.
Actually if we had created fail safes like I always suggest it wouldn't matter what they think. On top of that I did ask and was pending a response. Considering it was suggested to me when I made the plan. On top of that the move was the issue not the calling of Amora. Red get off your high horse considering you stop most intrigue actions that could have prevented this.

Hell now we have to deal with an amped Lorelei because you didn't want to move against her earlier or even prepare for her.

Edit: I am staying out of this and you still blame your failures on me.
 
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I mean, it's more you guys refuse to appreciate your resources. Even now you could save Sigyn in an instant but you've forgotten how.
 
I mean, it's more you guys refuse to appreciate your resources. Even now you could save Sigyn in an instant but you've forgotten how.
What you want us to use the Chitari to teleport her out?

Edit: Honestly we should pick up Sigyn and just leave the universe. The only other person Loki cares about is Torunn. We can't leave Asgard unless we kill Thor. Jotunheim is probably going to be destroyed by Thor in a few turns and any outside planets are going to be Loreleis.
 
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Actually if we had created fail safes like I always suggest it wouldn't matter what they think. On top of that I did ask and was pending a response. Considering it was suggested to me when I made the plan. On top of that the move was the issue not the calling of Amora. Red get off your high horse considering you stop most intrigue actions that could have prevented this.

Hell now we have to deal with an amped Lorelei because you didn't want to move against her earlier or even prepare for her.

Edit: I am staying out of this and you still blame your failures on me.
And here you go again with refusing to accept that you made mistakes. It doesn't matter if it was pending, you shouldn't have put that shit in without making sure first and again you could have just made Sigyn an artifact which we could have easily made. The fact that you didn't immediately take out that vote even after the QM mentioned the insanely high DC and decided to use two of said votes was also a terrible mistake on your part. The Amora thing was also a big deal since it's been mentioned the issue was being forced to move the entire population to Pluto which literally could have been avoided if you're plan had us ask Amora to deal with the Adaptoids before even doing anything else. And I admit I may have also voted for studying the adaptoids and also played a role in messing up by not confirming with the QM where they would be put in but at least I admit that and I did outright suggest multiple times to call Amora once the situation went fubar.

Let me make this clear, I don't blame all the mistakes made on you. My issue is that you never admit any mistakes you made whatsoever and instead decided to deflect or even blame other people. Everyone fucks up, your issue is that you refuse to admit that you can even fuck up and thus have an issue learning from mistakes because you refuse you can even make any.
 
And here you go again with refusing to accept that you made mistakes. It doesn't matter if it was pending, you shouldn't have put that shit in without making sure first and again you could have just made Sigyn an artifact which we could have easily made. The fact that you didn't immediately take out that vote even after the QM mentioned the insanely high DC and decided to use two of said votes was also a terrible mistake on your part. The Amora thing was also a big deal since it's been mentioned the issue was being forced to move the entire population to Pluto which literally could have been avoided if you're plan had us ask Amora to deal with the Adaptoids before even doing anything else. And I admit I may have also voted for studying the adaptoids and also played a role in messing up by not confirming with the QM where they would be put in but at least I admit that and I did outright suggest multiple times to call Amora once the situation went fubar.

Let me make this clear, I don't blame all the mistakes made on you. My issue is that you never admit any mistakes you made whatsoever and instead decided to deflect or even blame other people. Everyone fucks up, your issue is that you refuse to admit that you can even fuck up and thus have an issue learning from mistakes because you refuse you can even make any.
Really Red pot calling the kettle black, considering you don't accept your mistakes. You always go full Opera and ignores when it blows up in your face. I left you alone for this turn and look how well that did. We all agreed at the time to move the Jotuns regardless of calling Amora or not. Their issue is the adaptoids and the move which would have happened regardless. The climate thing was an communication mistake. It was never meant to be the climate and you know that. You also conveniently forget about the surrounding circumstances of those choices. We were trying to get Sigyn our of a Dark elf invasion. Which was Justified considering in one time line she died.

Second you are literally to blame for Lorelei and our inability to deal with her. Any failsafe for her you would freak and say it's player bias. Now look at what happened with that. We basically lost everything outside of Asgard to NC.

Third it was you and very few others that wished to be in charge of Jotunheim in the first place. Even when people outright pointed out the issues that we are now suffering from.

Edit: When someone even suggests that Loki needs to be stronger you reject the idea. Now look at that we no longer have the force to subdue them.
 
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Who would we be warring with, I thought we had the members, or at least anyone important within it, of the rebellion under magical oath that they would not plot against loki as long as he is king
 
[X] Plan Hey, Let's Save The Love Of Loki's Life, Why Don't We?
-[X] Step down and inform him that you'll be taking your stuff with you, particularly the things you need (e.g. the Forge and the Cloning Facility)
--[X] Don't be rude about it, and if he protests bring up the fact that these things haven't been of much value to Jotunheim outside of your own use, and the only thing that's had some sort of limited impact (the Cloning Facility) you require to live, not to mention the fact that you used your own personal resources to construct them
-[X] Keep it for a better time
-[X] Go to Asgard
--[X] But you're saving Sigyn first; have Egil bring you to her location and prepare for combat and the possibility of needing to exfiltrate her via willing teleportation if she's really in trouble
---[X] Have some of your Chitauri teleport in to combat the robot while you focus on getting Sigyn out of harm's way

Sooo, I say we step down and heed Tyr's words from their last fight. Rulership really doesn't agree with Loki, and he could be spending more actions on self-improvement or on his company/R&D. He already has the Chitauri after all, and pseudo-rulership over the Skrulls. And let's be honest, the galaxy is already in chaos and is chock-full of those who are far more luckier, more capable, and more successful at ruling than Loki at the moment. Also Thor's ultimatum and all that. I wonder if it'd be a good idea to clone Thor a new body for him to inhabit? It might help cure some of his madness, anyways.

EDIT: Added in a sub-point to the first and last sub-votes.
 
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[X] Plan Hey, Let's Save The Love Of Loki's Life, Why Don't We?
-[X] Step down on the condition that you can take your stuff with you, particularly the things you need (e.g. the Forge and the Cloning Facility)
-[X] Keep it for a better time
-[X] Go to Asgard
--[X] But you're saving Sigyn first; have Egil bring you to her location and prepare for combat and the possibility of needing to exfiltrate her via willing teleportation if she's really in trouble

Sooo, I say we step down and heed Tyr's words from their last fight. Rulership really doesn't agree with Loki, and he could be spending more actions on self-improvement or on his company/R&D. He already has the Chitauri after all, and pseudo-rulership over the Skrulls. And let's be honest, the galaxy is already in chaos and is chock-full of those who are far more luckier, more capable, and more successful at ruling than Loki at the moment. Also Thor's ultimatum and all that. I wonder if it'd be a good idea to clone Thor a new body for him to inhabit? It might help cure some of his madness, anyways.
We don't actually have to ask to take our stuff. Just have the Chitari teleport them off planet. Also have the Chitari fight the robot and teleport Sigyn.

Have one Chitari come to Loki to test the formula on to see the side effects.
 
[X] Plan Hey, Let's Save The Love Of Loki's Life, Why Don't We?

Personally I'd also specify the records of those things and the satellite fortress.
 
Also Thor's ultimatum and all that. I wonder if it'd be a good idea to clone Thor a new body for him to inhabit? It might help cure some of his madness, anyways.
A 300+ Martial body?

Fam, why don't we make ourselves that body if we can.

Also how are you planning to get hold of Thor and ask him to switch bodies?
 
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