[X] How could we not?

This is who Amanda is. Her decision here feels just as obvious as mine not to eat babies. I feel there might even be a bit of confusion at the question.
 
Okay, finally, finally have a chance to catch up. Brilliant as always @Snowfire.

[x] Why wouldn't we?

This is just who we are.
I mean, I get it, but I think you put the [x] on the wrong line:

[x] This is who I am, who we are.

I'm sort of concerned that the "Why wouldn't we?" reply comes off as either flippant or somewhat naively unreasonable, as if, even after our Week of Sorrows, Humanity as a whole just doesn't get how devastating the Shiplords were to a race like the Tahkel. Remember that every one of the Uninvolved have a system-wide case of post-traumatic fatalistic depression: they have all, like WOPR before them, were worn down of the course of generations, did the math and come to the conclusion:



If we behave so flippantly as to say: "Yeah, of course we're going to hold back resources from this single hope in a billion years that a miracle might happen; what's the worst that could happen?" we might make some of the Uninvoled still on the fence about supporting us reconsider.

Saying instead that this is just who we are, that our compassion and concern for others is the core of why and how we were able to create this chance in the first place? That might be a better tack, while still being completely true and forthright with our potential ally.
 
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I'm sort of concerned that the "Why wouldn't we?" reply comes off as either flippant or somewhat naively unreasonable, as if, even after our Week of Sorrows, Humanity as a whole just doesn't get how devastating the Shiplords were to a race like the Tahkel. Remember that every one of the Uninvolved have a system-wide case of post-traumatic fatalistic depression: they have all, like WOPR before them, were worn down of the course of generations, did the math and come to the conclusion:
I disagree because we've got soul-to-soul communication here. This 'Why wouldn't we' is an expression of the basic tenet of the human(v2.1) condition - if we can help, if we can make the universe a better place, we do so.
 
I disagree because we've got soul-to-soul communication here. This 'Why wouldn't we' is an expression of the basic tenet of the human(v2.1) condition - if we can help, if we can make the universe a better place, we do so.
It's not Tahkel's reaction that concerns me: he/they are already on board with the idea, simply by virtue of being here in the first place. What concerns me is that Tahkel is going to take our words back to the other Uninvolved, in what seems to be some sort of conclave or gathering, and that is going to be a fraught political process that Amanda can't be present for. Tahkel will certainly be able to communicate her sentiments, but in an arena like that the words will carry further and faster, simply by nature of not requiring as intense a connection to communicate. Those words will be Humanity 2.1's first impression to the wider Uninvolved community, and that means that what we say, and how we say it, will matter.

As least that's what I'm assuming. After all, if what we say doesn't matter because "we've got soul-to-soul communication here", then why are we voting?
 
As least that's what I'm assuming. After all, if what we say doesn't matter because "we've got soul-to-soul communication here", then why are we voting?
To give Snowfire an idea how we feel about it - the thread doesn't have that kind of communication with the author. We still need to use words only.
 
Okay, finally, finally have a chance to catch up. Brilliant as always @Snowfire.


I mean, I get it, but I think you put the [x] on the wrong line:

[x] This is who I am, who we are.

I'm sort of concerned that the "Why wouldn't we?" reply comes off as either flippant or somewhat naively unreasonable, as if, even after our Week of Sorrows, Humanity as a whole just doesn't get how devastating the Shiplords were to a race like the Tahkel. Remember that every one of the Uninvolved have a system-wide case of post-traumatic fatalistic depression: they have all, like WOPR before them, were worn down of the course of generations, did the math and come to the conclusion:



If we behave so flippantly as to say: "Yeah, of course we're going to hold back resources from this single hope in a billion years that a miracle might happen; what's the worst that could happen?" we might make some of the Uninvoled still on the fence about supporting us reconsider.

Saying instead that this is just who we are, that our compassion and concern for others is the core of why and how we were able to create this chance in the first place? That might be a better tack, while still being completely true and forthright with our potential ally.

Okay, so given that, what do you think of []How could we not?, though?
 
I'm just waiting for the Neras Energence to show up again.

I do wonder if the Uninvolved have any idea about what it is in the dark between the stars that the Shiplords are concerned about.

Paying my vote tax:

[X] How could we not?
 
The Shiplords may be worried about the Uninvolved themselves. Because it's out in the dark between the stars that the Uninvolved can pop up, do something, and pop away before the Shiplords react. Apparently the Shiplords have some means of launching devastating attacks on the Uninvolved anyway, but the Shiplords themselves may not be sure how well that would work, or hesitate to do so over relatively minor provocations.

And so they consider it best to just avoid any possibility of the Uninvolved and the younger races coming into contact.

Then again, it could be the Neras (the space mushroom people, right?) Or some other thing.

@Snowfire , I know we kind of had our chance to ask questions, but what do we know about the Neras IC, and if we know about them IC, can we find out if the Uninvolved know more?
 
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