Err. I had a new theory on Nictis being scum but I could also easily see him as this guard captain. So I guess I'll wait with typing up a post until we know who's dead?
Also nothing happened to me.
*Raises eyebrow*
LttL didn't seem like maf flavour to me, tbh.
Anyway wrt Nictis:
- Has been constantly leaking info and hinting at knowing more and it really feels like fishing to me (especially once we got the D2 start flavour)
- The focus on finding out whether I am an important role or not and trying to lynch me once he thinks I'm not <- this is probably the weakest reason for the rest of you but Nictis' reasons for lynching me still make little sense to me
- Switching off of me to LttL when he's convinced I am scum. This is just bad as Town unless he was much less certain than he acted. As scum he'd have better reasons because otherwise he could end up as main driver of a mislynch two Days in a row (even if it was a 3-way tie at the time). Tbh as I actually had this theory before the LttL flip this probably plays a role in me reading LttL as not Maf.
- I read this as trying to direct Town PR. It's much softer than I remembered now that I'm seeing it again but I don't super like it either.
With Nani dead the only other people that immediately come to mind are Ban, Evenstar and Cyricubed. But Ban is literally gutfeels still and thus not actually worth a vote, case against Cyri is still weak and Evenstar I'm hoping will be able to participate more today because that read feels outdated and based on low activity.
I'll try to look into a bunch of people not mentioned here to see if anything sticks out.
Disagree with points One and I'd like you to point out point 2.
Three is strange and wine-ish but at the same time I disagree with Nictis's swap despite the pleasant surprise. And 4 its very soft, it's not a "Somebody must do this sort of thing either."
Also, I was roleblocked last night, and would very much like the roleblocker to claim.
*Skeptism grows...slightly* Tbh I don't like the: "Oh they blocked me now, they gotta be scum" aspect to this that I'm garnering a vibe from.
"Flashes of claws and fangs" does not work together with pulped bodies and shattered bones.
No second kill just made me move towards survivor or them having decided not to kill.
Both of you said this, but this would mean all maf are assassins. That's possible of course but it's not what I've been expecting. Especially considering this assassin could hide in someone else's body skin which seemed like a cop-immune thing to me
I don't like this way of focusing heavily on the flavor, it's just as easy for this brotherhood to have non-beast assassins who can drink some potions of storm giant's strength or something and have a few levels in Monk obviously for that Unarmed attack.(This is an over stated DND reference)
I'd also like to note that if we go off flavors, a fair amount of times Ninja kills end up with no flavor coloring's.
We definitely have a roleblocker and, given the targets, probably a scummy one.
I'd Debate that, especially after -Rosen's ending post. If anything I'd say the roleblocker is a...hmm...no shouldn't complete that line of thought outloud. Curious to how you got your strong Even town read though.
I got no messages during the night. Did anybody besides Evenstar get any messages they can safely report?
Smells like Fishing...
The information created by general activity and posting. It's effectively the reason Nictis said he switched to LttL.
What I'm saying there is that if you're deciding between an activity lynch and an info-lynch (or at least one where getting info is what convinces you to vote), you also need to take into account if the immediate info gained is worth the loss of later activity. If there is no competing activity lynch that's not relevant because you'd lose future activity no matter what, and if there's no competing lynch at all you run into it generally being better to lynch someone than no one.
Hmm...I both like and dislike this
TurtleDuck thought Absum was town because... well I'm not sure they legitimately thought that, I think they wanted Absum alive to spread the idea that TurtleDucks was a night immune town character. This is accurate somewhat, but I'm not town I'm survivor. I'm an Armorsmith, you can't tell but I'm wearing a full suit of armor right now and am immune to some number of night kills before I can be eliminated by any faction in the night.
I've not played open for a long time and being open third party means I'm forever the back-up lynch so I should be forced to act for you all.
I'm sorry about everything, I'm just being garbage as a player.
So yeah, kinda a useless reason, but here we now have me to talk about.
Uhm...no...This is how Comi dies today. This doesn't make sense for you to have revealed this and will act as a "don't lynch me I'm on your side" shield while also waving a "Obviously scum wouldn't kill 3rd party" flag around.
I'm not buying this so hard that I went and checked to see if you could be distracting from Nictis. And while I could in theory see some things as TD helping with fishing early on this seems a weird time to start a distraction so I'm probably wrong about that.
I agree with not buying it, I disagree everything else.
Ah, okay. Yeah, that's actually somewhat fair on the flavor stuff.
Rrrgggg. Flavor traps....flavor traps everywhere.
I can always try to explain if you specify but it's probably a playstyle thing?
Me posting that stuff about Nani the previous day and this about you is because I am trying to "actually do things" more instead of just commenting on stuff others have done and also because the previous Day was a bit of a wasteland so I'd rather just put my shit out there so that at least people have something to talk about.
Why did I quote this?
Cyricubed: Is still alive? Nani?
No, Nani is dead. But yes, I am alive.
So @Nictis - If Turtles All The Way Down is an SK, where was their kill for two nights in a row? Did they holster?
I don't see any reason for TD to holster an Sk kill...Comi I totally do. But TD only played for a day...so *Shrugs* Idk.
Likewise, I don't believe there to be third-party Survivors either and therefore must assume that Comi is non-SK scum.
I read this wrong when I quoted it...I however refuse to remove it...
Welp you're town, was hoping to get more out of this ploy and play it until late game to make scum think they have victory with me.
Really wanted to get more analysis out of this but at least I have you confirmed town now.
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K let me explain myself as I said early I wanted to play this out longer for more bits but I legitimately can't beat Pyrros's logic, my mistake for assuming there wouldn't be real civilians, should've made up a country to hail from, certainly did think of being from the enemy kingdom when I first devised this plan, but felt that would get me killed, probably would've been better and stopped it from happening here, but Pyrros is town that much I can say with more confidence then I've ever really given any living player, especially this early with this little information.
So the plan was simple: Claim survivor, because well my predecessor set up the building blocks for the claim, it should've been believable, and I wasn't going to get what I really needed based on my performance so far in-game. But I could set a trap, a trap for myself to analyze how others reacted to my claim, and if it stuck if I made it to the point when scum would have vote majority if I helped them I'm certain they'd give me the offer openly and that when I'd strike and reveal myself as proper town, didn't work really wanted this to be a slow burn. But I'm impatient.
I do not wish to reveal my true role but I've literally been lying to you all, so while I disagree with Lynch-all-liars I do think I'm going to have to die at some point because I've made myself an untrustworthy liability.
However I find the way specifically Nictis has been playing around my claim fascinating, I would've sworn they would be able to call my trickery as town trickery and not scum. Them also not believing that LTTL isn't an SK based off that end and description and then trying to suggest such strange set-ups makes me look at them differently I'm going to have to reanalyze my previous town read of them.
I didn't get enough out of this to really tell if scum would want to push me or ally with me early though... probably should've not revealed the goose this early. Its undone, another mistake no matter. I enjoy the heat under me.
No...I don't like this moreso than the original claim. Like, I disbelieved the third party claim but this is...no it doesn't feel right. If you wanted to go on flavor perspective you could have easily stuck to that. This is a: Someone called my bluff, back out asap move and it was negative to town assuming Pyrros is telling the truth. Like...I want to know why you really did this? You could haved pulled this longer, If scum believed you they would have ignored it for the most part and you could have garnered info from that, but instead you just...the moment resistance to the claim came forward you backpedaled and gave a town claim for it...
Honestly, I'm kinda staring at that myself and trying to figure out where I made the connection right now.
Cool, figure that out yet cause it seems really weird.
Now I run into my problem, because gonna be honest, I don't see LttL as team-scum. Frankly it was...a bad lynch and I'm pretty sure he could have been coached on what to throw out to just avoid the lynch on new-guy policy(Yes this is winey) similar to how totadile did for a large portion of the clown game. Sk? Given what we saw from their lynch? Believable. Team-Scum? Possible, but I think not likely. If they are team-scum...I'd wager Even for one of their teammates atm but Even hasn't gotten a mechanic chance to play. Speaking of which...
@Evenstar can we get a good sized post yet or is school still a nightmare?
In addition with the idea of LttL being Sk or other 3rd party, it makes the lynch on him non-informational too from my PoV...so...where does that leave my thoughts on Nictis...ughh....Hmm cotton.
Urg I need Z's.
@ComiTurtle explain your reasonings better here, why didn't you try to keep your "ruse" up longer? You gave up rather quickly and I want to hear more on how you expected this strategy to actually work.
[X] Lynch Comiturtle
