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Tohjo Military University [Pokémon]

Kotone's Starter Choice

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DeepWaters said:
You might want to put this info in spoilers, as large amounts of info are a bit easier to digest when they're in marked boxes, and a series of spoiler boxes are a good flag for something that's worth stopping and checking out. Maximizes the chance that people skimming through will actually read it.

Also it'll take up less of the forum page. :V
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Fixed, thanks. Typed it on cellphone, did not expect it to end up as long as it got to be. If enough people are interested, I'll do the rest of them (I'll probably do the rest of them either way, I'm just blatantly baiting to get people to read it).
 
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Sirrocco said:
I'm game for it if you are, but if the vote falls for Safari Zone North under those conditions, I don't want to see you putting up an equally "well, how about we commit completely to Oddish *this* turn?" vote next turn. That sort of thing gets real old, real fast, and it leads to poor choices, as everyone is basically forced to push votes to make their side win, rather than votes that are actually worthwhile for overall success of the character.
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Really, I think if we're not going for Oddish folks should try to consolidate behind one different pokemon this round. That's part of why I'm doing my side poll, to see which other pokemon might get support/strong opposition. We're so short on time, given that we need to talk to professors.

I mean, there's no perfect solution and someone's going to be unhappy. I am just continuing to vote for the thing I want.

I don't think we have time to look into Safari Zone North before our interviews.

Also, fixed the font.

Edit: And Poliwag pulls ahead in my minipoll. (Safari Zone)
 
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Sirrocco said:
Okay. You want to make this the poll, then?

- All-in for Oddish Nurse Joy -> "We're going with Oddish, deal with it and move on"
- Safari Zone North -> "We should identify one other pokemon that's worth examining, research it, and then decide between them"

I'm game for it if you are, but if the vote falls for Safari Zone North under those conditions, I don't want to see you putting up an equally "well, how about we commit completely to Oddish *this* turn?" vote next turn. That sort of thing gets real old, real fast, and it leads to poor choices, as everyone is basically forced to push votes to make their side win, rather than votes that are actually worthwhile for overall success of the character.

Also, could you change the color on your question-votes back to default? They're all showing up as black to me. I have to highlight them to read them.
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I am fine with this, though not with the way you put it. I find that caveat rather hypocritical, in fact, considering that my frustration comes from people lacking commitment towards the option we already chose, stating over and over, "Well, you know that pokemon we decided on before as a good compromise, and which was half the reason why going to the Safari Zone was considered viable? Why don't we change our minds at the last second and go for something else instead of maximizing our chances of survival and capture in a hardcore Nuzlocke quest?"

Still, this is essentially a democracy, people can vote for what they want, and that is exactly what that particular vote was going for, anyway. My main concern is that I doubt we're going to find it as easy to consolidate behind a different pokemon, though. I suspect more people will be unhappy than if we just stuck with Oddish, as votes fragment across several pokemon. If I'm wrong, though, and most people end up settling on a pokemon that makes them happier than Oddish, then I'll be happy with that.
 
Wysteria said:
Really, I think if we're not going for Oddish folks should try to consolidate behind one different pokemon this round. That's part of why I'm doing my side poll, to see which other pokemon might get support/strong opposition. We're so short on time, given that we need to talk to professors.

I mean, there's no perfect solution and someone's going to be unhappy. I am just continuing to vote for the thing I want.

I don't think we have time to look into Safari Zone North before our interviews.

Also, fixed the font.
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I'd like to see what Safari Zone North has to offer before we try to consolidate around one. There's a lot of important information there, including things like what pokemon are available, what are reasonably safe to catch, and how much travel time we're going to need to spend in the field. Also, I think this is a *good* time for the straw poll, because if we do it now, then the next vote (assuming we're not going with the "just oddish" plan) can be a matter of actually deciding which one we want, rather than a combination of that an having a bunch of people arguing that we should abandon that plan and go oddish.

We have seven days before the interviews. If we want an option other than oddish, we spend one day on Safari Zone North, we spend two days on researching whichever pokemon that is, we need one day for the meeting with Silver and Leaf, and then we have three days for meeting with professors. That seems like a reasonable amount of time to me.

I agree that there's no perfect solution, but I'd like to try to limit the degree to which people are unhappy, and one of the ways we can do that is to be reasonable to each other and not make things more acrimonious than they have to be. One of the ways to do *that* is to agree on when certain decisions get made. I'm not saying that this should be "Oddish yes" vs "Oddish no". I'm saying that it should be "Oddish yes" versus "give something else a reasonable shot at it".
 
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*sigh*

It's just that we've already had the 'let's have this be the decision vote and not talk about it again' vote once or twice. I think the issue is that new folks have joined who weren't part of the original agreement, so I've rather given up on the whole concept of 'this vote and no further votes on the issue.'

That said, I do absolutely want to keep things unacrimonious, and I'm not trying to argue for Oddish because ~inevitability~. I think it can and should win on the merits of catchability and utility.

I think folks would have luck with either Nidoran or Poliwag, if they wanted to start a bandwagon for one of those. Nidoran I'd like to research sometime anyway, since we need to catch one for Silver.
 
Sirrocco said:
I'm saying that it should be "Oddish yes" versus "give something else a reasonable shot at it".
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Except if we spend time researching another option and find out it's not feasible we've wasted resources that could have been used to improve our odds of success. Time is our constraining resource right now, and success is not guaranteed by any means. Gary and Ash returning from their mission to find out that Leaf, Silver, and Kotone never came back from the Safari Zone would be a continuation wdango would be perfectly happy with.

The give something else a reasonable shot was...when the quest started and we could research from a very large list of pokemon. We ended up focusing on Oddish due to its ease of capture and potential for furthering Kotone's personal quest. That hasn't changed. In fact, that's become more important because we're going into the Safari Zone.

[X] Talk to Professor Joy. (1 Day)
→ [X] About Oddish, Nidoran, and Kangaskhan behavior and evolution.
→ → [X] Are Oddish immune to sleep powder? What about other tranquilizers and status effects?
→ → [X] Will an Oddish be easier to tame than a Gloom?
→ → [X] Will an older Oddish be harder to tame than a younger Oddish?
→ → [X] Is there any benefit to trying to find an Oddish with a stronger poison?
→ → [X] Will an Oddish caught in the middle of evolution be mad at me?
→ → [X] What's the best way to bribe an Oddish to like me? I was thinking nice potting soil.
→ → [X] Is there a way to tell when my Oddish is ready to evolve? Is there a benefit to delays its evolution so it's stronger when attempting evolution?
→ → [X] I'm concerned about Gloom's scent, but I understand I can train it not to smell. How difficult is that training, and can you tell me more about it?
→ → [X] Is there some way to steer my Oddish towards a future as a Vileplume or Bellossom, depending on which I prefer? I am leaning towards a Bellossom, which I have read is rare. Will getting my Oddish to evolve into one be a problem?
→ → [X] The general outline of my Oddish capture plan is track a strong Oddish at night, wait for it to dig itself a hole for the day, put a steel mesh and then a fabric bag over it, dig it up carefully, send it to sleep with sleep powder, add more restraints, and then capture it. Could you give me your feedback on this plan?
→ → [X] How does an injured Kangaskan act?
→ → [X] How likely is a Nidoran to be off alone away from its Kingdom?
 
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Diomedon said:
The give something else a reasonable shot was...when the quest started and we could research from a very large list of pokemon. We ended up focusing on Oddish due to its ease of capture and potential for furthering Kotone's personal quest. That hasn't changed. In fact, that's become more important because we're going into the Safari Zone.
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On the other hand, opportunity cost has never been at such a premium as now, since we're going to the Saffari Zone anyways. If we are going to hardmode it for the sake of someone else, might as well try and catch something we will not be able to find anywhere else, particularly since we'll have support now.

Oddish is a fine compromise, a "default" option we can always come back to. We don't need desperately need to improve our chances of success, because Oddish is already easy anyways. If the choice is down to "looking into different possibilities for our starter" versus "improving Leaf's chance of getting her incredibly rare pokémon", you know where I'll vote.
 
Part of this issue is that we can't really look into that many other possibilities without hitting a time wall, isn't it? Nidoran, at least, we might want to look into anyway to improve Silver's chances. Anything else, we have to choose right the first time, or we end up defaulting right back to Oddish and wasting a day when we shouldn't waste a day. It's not like we can research our favorite three Safari Zone pokemon and then hold a free vote between them.
 
wdango said:
but if it doesn't make sense narratively, logic trumps typing.
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Yes! Lick can affect normal types and tackle from a really heavy Pokémon CRUSHES small Pokémon!

Or that's what I'm getting from this.
wdango said:
acting aggressively in the direction of a Chansey will provoke the ire of all of the Safari Zone's inhabitants.
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Ah the doctors of Pokémon. Perhaps there is hope for civility with these creatures after all. Just... totally not gonna be an issue going forward. :rolleyes:

*ignores polls*
Lets get finished with the general survey. Maybe we'll find a cool Pokémon, maybe not. These are areas we WILL have to go to! (Oh, @wdango are there shiny Pokémon in this setting?)

[x] Study Gary's Notes (1 Day)
→ [x] Safari Zone North (Safari Area 2) (in-depth)
Adhoc vote count started by Plausitivity on Jun 19, 2019 at 6:13 PM, finished with 914 posts and 7 votes.
  • [x] Talk to Professor Joy. (1 Day)
    → [x] About Oddish, Nidoran, and Kangaskhan behavior and evolution.
    → → [x] Are Oddish immune to sleep powder? What about other tranquilizers and status effects?
    → → [x] Will an Oddish be easier to tame than a Gloom?
    → → [x] Will an older Oddish be harder to tame than a younger Oddish?
    → → [x] Is there any benefit to trying to find an Oddish with a stronger poison?
    → → [x] Will an Oddish caught in the middle of evolution be mad at me?
    → → [x] What's the best way to bribe an Oddish to like me? I was thinking nice potting soil.
    → → [x] Is there a way to tell when my Oddish is ready to evolve? Is there a benefit to delays its evolution so it's stronger when attempting evolution?
    → → [x] Is there some way to steer my Oddish towards a future as a Vileplume or Bellossom, depending on which I prefer? I am leaning towards a Bellossom, which I have read is rare. Will getting my Oddish to evolve into one be a problem?
    → → [x] The general outline of my Oddish capture plan is track a strong Oddish at night, wait for it to dig itself a hole for the day, put a steel mesh and then a fabric bag over it, dig it up carefully, send it to sleep with sleep powder, add more restraints, and then capture it. Could you give me your feedback on this plan?
    → → [x] How does an injured Kangaskan act?
    → → [x] How likely is a Nidoran to be off alone away from its Kingdom?
    [x] Study Gary's Notes (1 Day)
    → [x] Poliwag (preliminary)
    -[x] Options
    [x] Study Gary's Notes (1 Day)
    - [x] Safari Zone North (Safari Area 2) (in-depth)
    [x] Study Gary's Notes (1 Day)
    → [x] Safari Zone North (Safari Area 2) (in-depth)
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Lab_Accident said:
On the other hand, opportunity cost has never been at such a premium as now, since we're going to the Saffari Zone anyways. If we are going to hardmode it for the sake of someone else, might as well try and catch something we will not be able to find anywhere else, particularly since we'll have support now.
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Mmmm, I think this way of thinking about it is a mistake. Like, this is not our only chance to catch a pokemon in the Safari Zone. We could leverage the help we give Leaf here into her returning later with her fully trained Kangaskhan to help us acquire a rare Safari Pokemon, or even another rare pokemon in another dangerous locale that suits us even better. If I had to choose between Kotone getting a slightly rarer pokemon and Leaf succeeding in her mission (and owing us), I'll choose Leaf. It's better for our group and better for humanity, and I think the benefits of having a solid teammate with a pokemon partner far outweighs a small gain in our own pokemon partner's power.

Like, we are never weaker than we are right now. Three cadets with no pokemon support, and survival (much less success) isn't guaranteed. Like...consider a scenario where things start going FUBAR. Oddish is relatively "easy," and we can push to get it taken care of first. Meaning if we're forced to abandon mission due to injured teammate or fleeing a herd of Chancey organized pokemon or whatever, Kotone is still covered and her dreams are not ruined.
 
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Somehow, I have talked myself into changing my vote. I present a potential bandwagon for your delectation:

[x] Study Gary's Notes (1 Day)
→ [x] Poliwag (preliminary)

Everyone likes Poliwag, right? And it has some of Oddish's benefits of being weaker at first, and I like the sound of the lake being full of weak pokemon.
Adhoc vote count started by Wysteria on Jun 19, 2019 at 5:50 PM, finished with 912 posts and 6 votes.
  • [x] Study Gary's Notes (1 Day)
    → [x] Poliwag (preliminary)
    [x] Talk to Professor Joy. (1 Day)
    → [x] About Oddish, Nidoran, and Kangaskhan behavior and evolution.
    → → [x] Are Oddish immune to sleep powder? What about other tranquilizers and status effects?
    → → [x] Will an Oddish be easier to tame than a Gloom?
    → → [x] Will an older Oddish be harder to tame than a younger Oddish?
    → → [x] Is there any benefit to trying to find an Oddish with a stronger poison?
    → → [x] Will an Oddish caught in the middle of evolution be mad at me?
    → → [x] What's the best way to bribe an Oddish to like me? I was thinking nice potting soil.
    → → [x] Is there a way to tell when my Oddish is ready to evolve? Is there a benefit to delays its evolution so it's stronger when attempting evolution?
    → → [x] Is there some way to steer my Oddish towards a future as a Vileplume or Bellossom, depending on which I prefer? I am leaning towards a Bellossom, which I have read is rare. Will getting my Oddish to evolve into one be a problem?
    → → [x] The general outline of my Oddish capture plan is track a strong Oddish at night, wait for it to dig itself a hole for the day, put a steel mesh and then a fabric bag over it, dig it up carefully, send it to sleep with sleep powder, add more restraints, and then capture it. Could you give me your feedback on this plan?
    → → [x] How does an injured Kangaskan act?
    → → [x] How likely is a Nidoran to be off alone away from its Kingdom?
    -[x] Options
    [x] Study Gary's Notes (1 Day)
    - [x] Safari Zone North (Safari Area 2) (in-depth)
    [x] Study Gary's Notes (1 Day)
    → [x] Safari Zone North (Safari Area 2) (in-depth)
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Adhoc vote count started by Wysteria on Jun 19, 2019 at 6:45 PM, finished with 914 posts and 7 votes.
  • [x] Talk to Professor Joy. (1 Day)
    → [x] About Oddish, Nidoran, and Kangaskhan behavior and evolution.
    → → [x] Are Oddish immune to sleep powder? What about other tranquilizers and status effects?
    → → [x] Will an Oddish be easier to tame than a Gloom?
    → → [x] Will an older Oddish be harder to tame than a younger Oddish?
    → → [x] Is there any benefit to trying to find an Oddish with a stronger poison?
    → → [x] Will an Oddish caught in the middle of evolution be mad at me?
    → → [x] What's the best way to bribe an Oddish to like me? I was thinking nice potting soil.
    → → [x] Is there a way to tell when my Oddish is ready to evolve? Is there a benefit to delays its evolution so it's stronger when attempting evolution?
    → → [x] Is there some way to steer my Oddish towards a future as a Vileplume or Bellossom, depending on which I prefer? I am leaning towards a Bellossom, which I have read is rare. Will getting my Oddish to evolve into one be a problem?
    → → [x] The general outline of my Oddish capture plan is track a strong Oddish at night, wait for it to dig itself a hole for the day, put a steel mesh and then a fabric bag over it, dig it up carefully, send it to sleep with sleep powder, add more restraints, and then capture it. Could you give me your feedback on this plan?
    → → [x] How does an injured Kangaskan act?
    → → [x] How likely is a Nidoran to be off alone away from its Kingdom?
    [x] Study Gary's Notes (1 Day)
    → [x] Poliwag (preliminary)
    -[x] Options
    [x] Study Gary's Notes (1 Day)
    - [x] Safari Zone North (Safari Area 2) (in-depth)
    [x] Study Gary's Notes (1 Day)
    → [x] Safari Zone North (Safari Area 2) (in-depth)
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At this point I'll commit to anything but Oddish.

[x] Study Gary's Notes (1 Day)
→ [x] Poliwag (preliminary)
 
[x] Talk to Professor Joy. (1 Day)
→ [x] About Oddish, Nidoran, and Kangaskhan behavior and evolution.
→ → [x] Are Oddish immune to sleep powder? What about other tranquilizers and status effects?
→ → [x] Will an Oddish be easier to tame than a Gloom?
→ → [x] Will an older Oddish be harder to tame than a younger Oddish?
→ → [x] Is there any benefit to trying to find an Oddish with a stronger poison?
→ → [x] Will an Oddish caught in the middle of evolution be mad at me?
→ → [x] What's the best way to bribe an Oddish to like me? I was thinking nice potting soil.
→ → [x] Is there a way to tell when my Oddish is ready to evolve? Is there a benefit to delays its evolution so it's stronger when attempting evolution?
→ → [x] Is there some way to steer my Oddish towards a future as a Vileplume or Bellossom, depending on which I prefer? I am leaning towards a Bellossom, which I have read is rare. Will getting my Oddish to evolve into one be a problem?
→ → [x] The general outline of my Oddish capture plan is track a strong Oddish at night, wait for it to dig itself a hole for the day, put a steel mesh and then a fabric bag over it, dig it up carefully, send it to sleep with sleep powder, add more restraints, and then capture it. Could you give me your feedback on this plan?
→ → [x] How does an injured Kangaskan act?
→ → [x] How likely is a Nidoran to be off alone away from its Kingdom?
 
Continuing my attempts to give everyone a fair chance under the spotlight, we have the plains dwellers:

-Doduo: the strange two-headed ostrich. Doduo has normal/flying type, but it can't actually fly. It can be ridden on, and Dodrio's three heads apparently automatically set rotating guard shifts, so it's a good guard pokémon. Having two heads and living on plains where it is hard to sneak up on, as well as commendable speed on top of the ability Run Away, capturing it might be a dicey proposition.

It's strong, and a fast runner, particularly fully evolved. It has a poor movepool outside it's two types, but honorable mention goes to Tri Attack for having a ridiculously high chance of afflicting enemies with one of three status conditions.

-Tauros: So, I didn't really give Tauros much thought before writing this. Standing at a base 490 atat points, it's only a shade weaker than Scyther.

It's about as fast and strong as Dodrio, if a bit beefier (heh). With an amazing Ability in Intimidate, on top of a natural learnset includind Thrash, Pursuit, Zen Headbutt, and goddamn Giga Impact. It also learns Rest, and Scary Face and Swagger as status moves.

It lives in huge herds, so it's impressive strenght is probably precisely what makes this Pokémon more trouble than they're worth to capture.

-Rhyhorn: everyone's favorite rocky rhino-slash-dinosaur creature. It's apparently steong enough to destroy buildings with it's tackle, but not very maneauverable or smart. It's ridable from the get go, but steering can be a problem, as well as a natural tendency to charge for the heck of it. It lives in herds, but considering it's not very fast it might be the easiest to trap or hobble, if you don't care about causing a stampede. It might also be the rarest to find outside the Safari Zone.

Rhyhorn is a tank, not particularly agile but strong and durable. It has 6 weaknesses to 5 resistances, one of those being outright immunity to Electric. Due to this, it's ability, Lightningrod, does not help it much, but may be valuable to allies that aren't as lightning-proof as itself.

It has three evolutions, with it's final form standing shouldrr to the shoulder with the likes of Charizard or Blastoise. It naturally learns such attack ad Earthquake, Drill Run, Rock Slide, and Megahorn. It's final form, Rhyperior, naturally learns Rock Wrecker, the rock-elemental version of Hyper Beam. It's the only thing to learn this move other than the Dwebble line, which is neither accessible nor as cool.

-Nidoran: Nidoran is actually two different evolutionary lines, with subtle but important differences. It lives in kingdoms presided by it's fully-evolved form, and difficulty doesn't matter since we're going to have to catch one of these for Silver anyways. Technically large enough to ride by their second evolution, doing so is ill-advised because of all the spiky, poisony bits. Females are docile, males are aggressive but possess sharp senses.

Nidoran male is the offensive pick, notable for having a slightly better movepool (Megahorn, for use against psychic types), while Nidoqueen is tankier. Both have respectable learnsets, including Toxic Spikes, which are basically ninja caltrops. Having Poison Point as a good defensive ability, earning a Ground typing in their final evolution, they stand at 4 weaknesses apiece and are solid pokémon.
 
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Lab_Accident said:
Continuing my attempts to give everyone a fair chance under the spotlight, we have the plains dwellers:

-Doduo: the strange two-headed ostrich. Doduo has normal/flying type, but it can't actually fly. It can be ridden on, and Dodrio's three heads apparently automatically set rotating guard shifts, so it's a good guard pokémon. Having two heads and living on plains where it is hard to sneak up on, as well as commendable speed on top of the ability Run Away, capturing it might be a dicey proposition.

It's strong, and a fast runner, particularly fully evolved. It has a poor movepool outside it's two types, but honorable mention goes to Tri Attack for having a ridiculously high chance of afflicting enemies with one of three status conditions.

-Tauros: So, I didn't really give Tauros much thought before writing this. Standing at a base 490 atat points, it's only a shade weaker than Scyther.

It's about as fast and strong as Dodrio, if a bit beefier (heh). With an amazing Ability in Intimidate, on top of a natural learnset includind Thrash, Pursuit, Zen Headbutt, and goddamn Giga Impact. It also learns Rest, and Scary Face and Swagger as status moves.

It lives in huge herds, so it's impressive strenght is probably precisely what makes this Pokémon more trouble than they're worth to capture.

-Rhyhorn: everyone's favorite rocky rhino-slash-dinosaur creature. It's apparently steong enough to destroy buildings with it's tackle, but not very maneauverable or smart. It's ridable from the get go, but steering can be a problem, as well as a natural tendency to charge for the heck of it. It lives in herds, but considering it's not very fast it might be the easiest to trap or hobble, if you don't care about causing a stampede. It might also be the rarest to find outside the Safari Zone.

Rhyhorn is a tank, not particularly agile but strong and durable. It has 6 weaknesses to 5 resistances, one of those being outright immunity to Electric. Due to this, it's ability, Lightningrod, does not help it much, but may be valuable to allies that aren't as lightning-proof as itself.

It has three evolutions, with it's final form standing shouldrr to the shoulder with the likes of Charizard or Blastoise. It naturally learns such attack ad Earthquake, Drill Run, Rock Slide, and Megahorn. It's final form, Rhyperior, naturally learns Rock Wrecker, the rock-elemental version of Hyper Beam. It's the only thing to learn this move other than the Dwebble line, which is neither accessible nor as cool.

-Nidoran: Nidoran is actually two different evolutionary lines, with subtle but important differences. It lives in kingdoms presided by it's fully-evolved form, and difficulty doesn't matter since we're going to have to catch one of these for Silver anyways. Technically large enough to ride by their second evolution, doing so is ill-advised because of all the spiky, poisony bits. Females are docile, males are aggressive but possess sharp senses.

Nidoran male is the offensive pick, notable for having a slightly better movepool (Megahorn, for use against psychic types), while Nidoqueen is tankier. Both have respectable learnsets, including Toxic Spikes, which are basically ninja caltrops. Having Poison Point as a good defensive ability, earning a Ground typing in their final evolution, they stand at 4 weaknesses apiece and are solid pokémon.
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Taurus is actually really good with that 490 because of the way it's stats line up. It only has 40 in SPA while it's really focused in speed and attack. In game it was a awesome sweeper first gen.

I think it'd be pretty easy to capture with a pit trap to break a leg and directing a stampede toward it with a flashbang or something. Nobody else seems to like it though. :/
 
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Shin said:
Taurus is actually really good with that 490 because of the way it's stats line up. It only has 40 in SPA while it's really focused in speed and attack. In game it was a awesome sweeper first gen.

I think it'd be pretty easy to capture with a pit trap to break a leg and directing a stampede toward it with a flashback or something. Nobody else seems to like it though. :/
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I adore Tauros, actually, if we had consensus and a good plan.

It's the consensus part that is hard. o_o
Adhoc vote count started by Wysteria on Jun 19, 2019 at 7:05 PM, finished with 916 posts and 8 votes.
  • [x] Talk to Professor Joy. (1 Day)
    → [x] About Oddish, Nidoran, and Kangaskhan behavior and evolution.
    → → [x] Are Oddish immune to sleep powder? What about other tranquilizers and status effects?
    → → [x] Will an Oddish be easier to tame than a Gloom?
    → → [x] Will an older Oddish be harder to tame than a younger Oddish?
    → → [x] Is there any benefit to trying to find an Oddish with a stronger poison?
    → → [x] Will an Oddish caught in the middle of evolution be mad at me?
    → → [x] What's the best way to bribe an Oddish to like me? I was thinking nice potting soil.
    → → [x] Is there a way to tell when my Oddish is ready to evolve? Is there a benefit to delays its evolution so it's stronger when attempting evolution?
    → → [x] Is there some way to steer my Oddish towards a future as a Vileplume or Bellossom, depending on which I prefer? I am leaning towards a Bellossom, which I have read is rare. Will getting my Oddish to evolve into one be a problem?
    → → [x] The general outline of my Oddish capture plan is track a strong Oddish at night, wait for it to dig itself a hole for the day, put a steel mesh and then a fabric bag over it, dig it up carefully, send it to sleep with sleep powder, add more restraints, and then capture it. Could you give me your feedback on this plan?
    → → [x] How does an injured Kangaskan act?
    → → [x] How likely is a Nidoran to be off alone away from its Kingdom?
    [x] Study Gary's Notes (1 Day)
    → [x] Poliwag (preliminary)
    -[x] Options
    [x] Study Gary's Notes (1 Day)
    - [x] Safari Zone North (Safari Area 2) (in-depth)
    [x] Study Gary's Notes (1 Day)
    → [x] Safari Zone North (Safari Area 2) (in-depth)
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What out of combat uses would a Tauros provide? It doesn't seem very useful for furthering Kotone's goals of pokemon being used beyond combat.
 
Wysteria said:
I adore Tauros, actually, if we had consensus and a good plan.

It's the consensus part that is hard. o_o
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If we just have two choices before we get to the vote, we can go to the professors with questions for both and then go into our interview with one or the other. Which might end up being poliwag.

Tauros got banned in some competitions first gen. Too op
 
Diomedon said:
What out of combat uses would a Tauros provide? It doesn't seem very useful for furthering Kotone's goals of pokemon being used beyond combat.
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Training Tauros so we can ride it! :) Like in Sun&Moon! We could dress it in cool ninja colors!
 
*snort*

Well, he is a big ol' cow - industrial-level fertilizer production?
Adhoc vote count started by Wysteria on Jun 19, 2019 at 7:56 PM, finished with 925 posts and 9 votes.
  • [x] Talk to Professor Joy. (1 Day)
    → [x] About Oddish, Nidoran, and Kangaskhan behavior and evolution.
    → → [x] Are Oddish immune to sleep powder? What about other tranquilizers and status effects?
    → → [x] Will an Oddish be easier to tame than a Gloom?
    → → [x] Will an older Oddish be harder to tame than a younger Oddish?
    → → [x] Is there any benefit to trying to find an Oddish with a stronger poison?
    → → [x] Will an Oddish caught in the middle of evolution be mad at me?
    → → [x] What's the best way to bribe an Oddish to like me? I was thinking nice potting soil.
    → → [x] Is there a way to tell when my Oddish is ready to evolve? Is there a benefit to delays its evolution so it's stronger when attempting evolution?
    → → [x] Is there some way to steer my Oddish towards a future as a Vileplume or Bellossom, depending on which I prefer? I am leaning towards a Bellossom, which I have read is rare. Will getting my Oddish to evolve into one be a problem?
    → → [x] The general outline of my Oddish capture plan is track a strong Oddish at night, wait for it to dig itself a hole for the day, put a steel mesh and then a fabric bag over it, dig it up carefully, send it to sleep with sleep powder, add more restraints, and then capture it. Could you give me your feedback on this plan?
    → → [x] How does an injured Kangaskan act?
    → → [x] How likely is a Nidoran to be off alone away from its Kingdom?
    [x] Study Gary's Notes (1 Day)
    → [x] Poliwag (preliminary)
    -[x] Options
    [x] Study Gary's Notes (1 Day)
    - [x] Safari Zone North (Safari Area 2) (in-depth)
    [x] Study Gary's Notes (1 Day)
    → [x] Safari Zone North (Safari Area 2) (in-depth)
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Adhoc vote count started by Wysteria on Jun 19, 2019 at 8:15 PM, finished with 928 posts and 11 votes.
  • [x] Talk to Professor Joy. (1 Day)
    → [x] About Oddish, Nidoran, and Kangaskhan behavior and evolution.
    → → [x] Are Oddish immune to sleep powder? What about other tranquilizers and status effects?
    → → [x] Will an Oddish be easier to tame than a Gloom?
    → → [x] Will an older Oddish be harder to tame than a younger Oddish?
    → → [x] Is there any benefit to trying to find an Oddish with a stronger poison?
    → → [x] Will an Oddish caught in the middle of evolution be mad at me?
    → → [x] What's the best way to bribe an Oddish to like me? I was thinking nice potting soil.
    → → [x] Is there a way to tell when my Oddish is ready to evolve? Is there a benefit to delays its evolution so it's stronger when attempting evolution?
    → → [x] Is there some way to steer my Oddish towards a future as a Vileplume or Bellossom, depending on which I prefer? I am leaning towards a Bellossom, which I have read is rare. Will getting my Oddish to evolve into one be a problem?
    → → [x] The general outline of my Oddish capture plan is track a strong Oddish at night, wait for it to dig itself a hole for the day, put a steel mesh and then a fabric bag over it, dig it up carefully, send it to sleep with sleep powder, add more restraints, and then capture it. Could you give me your feedback on this plan?
    → → [x] How does an injured Kangaskan act?
    → → [x] How likely is a Nidoran to be off alone away from its Kingdom?
    [x] Study Gary's Notes (1 Day)
    → [x] Poliwag (preliminary)
    -[x] Options
    [x] Study Gary's Notes (1 Day)
    - [x] Safari Zone North (Safari Area 2) (in-depth)
    [x] Study Gary's Notes (1 Day)
    → [x] Safari Zone North (Safari Area 2) (in-depth)
Click to expand...
 
[x] Talk to Professor Joy. (1 Day)
→ [x] About Oddish, Nidoran, and Kangaskhan behavior and evolution.
→ → [x] Are Oddish immune to sleep powder? What about other tranquilizers and status effects?
→ → [x] Will an Oddish be easier to tame than a Gloom?
→ → [x] Will an older Oddish be harder to tame than a younger Oddish?
→ → [x] Is there any benefit to trying to find an Oddish with a stronger poison?
→ → [x] Will an Oddish caught in the middle of evolution be mad at me?
→ → [x] What's the best way to bribe an Oddish to like me? I was thinking nice potting soil.
→ → [x] Is there a way to tell when my Oddish is ready to evolve? Is there a benefit to delays its evolution so it's stronger when attempting evolution?
→ → [x] Is there some way to steer my Oddish towards a future as a Vileplume or Bellossom, depending on which I prefer? I am leaning towards a Bellossom, which I have read is rare. Will getting my Oddish to evolve into one be a problem?
→ → [x] The general outline of my Oddish capture plan is track a strong Oddish at night, wait for it to dig itself a hole for the day, put a steel mesh and then a fabric bag over it, dig it up carefully, send it to sleep with sleep powder, add more restraints, and then capture it. Could you give me your feedback on this plan?
→ → [x] How does an injured Kangaskan act?
→ → [x] How likely is a Nidoran to be off alone away from its Kingdom?
 
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