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Chronicles of Nations - Civ Quest

Should the world be a Low Fantasy setting?

  • Yes

    Votes: 63 70.0%

  • No

    Votes: 27 30.0%
  • Total voters
    90
  • Poll closed .
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[X] [Mega] Upgrade the Blessing of Arthryn.
[X] [Mega] Unlock another Divine Blessing.

[X] [React] Focus on infrastructure. ([SEC] More Farming, [SEC] Develop Mine = Sunrise Mountains: Tin, [SEC] Build Palisade = Greenbay
 
[X] [Mega] Gain at least two Technologies
[X] [Mega] Unlock another Divine Blessing.
[X] [React] Focus on infrastructure. ([SEC] More Farming, [SEC] Develop Mine = Sunrise Mountains: Tin, [SEC] Build Palisade = Greenbay)
 
[X] [Mega] Gain at least two Technologies
[X] [Mega] Unlock another Divine Blessing.
[X] [React] Focus on infrastructure. ([SEC] More Farming, [SEC] Develop Mine = Sunrise Mountains: Tin, [SEC] Build Palisade = Greenbay)
Adhoc vote count started by nkd1325 on Mar 23, 2019 at 1:13 AM, finished with 39 posts and 23 votes.
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[X] [Mega] Gain at least two Technologies
[X] [Mega] Unlock another Divine Blessing.

[X] [React] Focus on the magical knowledge ([SEC] More Farming, [MAIN] Study Magic)
 
[X] [React] Focus on infrastructure. ([SEC] More Farming, [SEC] Develop Mine = Sunrise Mountains: Tin, [SEC] Build Palisade = Greenbay)
[X] [React] Focus on exploring. ([SEC] More Fishing, [SEC] Explore Lands = Western Coast, [SEC] Explore Lands = Northern Coast)
[X] [Mega] Upgrade the Blessing of Arthryn
[X] [Mega] Unlock another Divine Blessing
 
[X] [Mega] Gain at least two Technologies
[X] [Mega] Unlock another Divine Blessing.

[X] [React] Focus on exploring. ([SEC] More Fishing, [SEC] Explore Lands = Western Coast, [SEC] Explore Lands = Northern Coast)

Definitely want to get exploring/fishing done. We need better boats, especially now that we have more actions. Also, should probably think about switching out our policy to infrastructure instead of diplomacy.
 
Kiba said:
By talking to lowlanders, we influence their thought pattern and gain information on the lowland. Ditto for the confederation. What we want is them not to attack us.



If we don't talk to the Caradysh, we don't know the fuck what they're doing. While I don't trust Urth as far as I can throw her, it doesn't mean we should restrict ourselves of information.
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The issue is, Diplo actions with a polity mean that our people are thinking of them as at worst, potential friends. As the players its our way of getting info, but we don't have any kind of intrigue action/stat yet. So we can't just get intel without also giving it away, or being easily mislead.
 
[X] [Mega] Upgrade a random Value
[X] [Mega] Gain a random Hero.
[X] [Mega] Gain at least two Technologies

Anything but upgrading the Blessing even more.

[X] [React] Focus on diplomacy. ([SEC] More Farming, [SEC] Trade Expedition = Caradysh, [SEC] Trade Expedition = Colryd)
[X] [React] Focus on exploring. ([SEC] More Fishing, [SEC] Explore Lands = Western Coast, [SEC] Explore Lands = Northern Coast)
 
[X] [Mega] Gain a new random Value
[X] [Mega] Unlock another Divine Blessing.
[X] [Mega] Gain at least two Technologies
[X] [React] Focus on exploring. ([SEC] More Fishing, [SEC] Explore Lands = Western Coast, [SEC] Explore Lands = Northern Coast)
[X] [React] Focus on infrastructure. ([SEC] More Farming, [SEC] Develop Mine = Sunrise Mountains: Tin, [SEC] Build Palisade = Greenbay)
 
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[X] [Mega] Gain at least two Technologies
[X] [Mega] Unlock another Divine Blessing.

[X] [React] Focus on exploring. ([SEC] More Fishing, [SEC] Explore Lands = Western Coast, [SEC] Explore Lands = Northern Coast)

I concur with Hallesworth
 
THE GREAT LEAP FORWARD
(Not a plan name just a meme because of the potential combination effects)

[X] [Mega] Gain at least two Technologies
[X] [Mega] Upgrade the Blessing of Arthryn.
[X] [React] Focus on exploring. ([SEC] More Fishing, [SEC] Explore Lands = Western Coast, [SEC] Explore Lands = Northern Coast)
[X] [React] Focus on infrastructure. ([SEC] More Farming, [SEC] Develop Mine = Sunrise Mountains: Tin, [SEC] Build Palisade = Greenbay)


  1. Sacred Forest:
    1. Blessing is fun, and could lead to greater innate magical abilities like increased shapeshifting or elf-like abilities such as extreme long life or supernatural strength and resilience.
    2. We already have blessings, so I personally would prefer not to get more because tech. seems like a fun thing to get in this case. We can hyper-advance.
  2. Exploration:
    1. Builds our world knowledge so we're aware of more threats, allies, trading partners, and opportunities.
    2. Uses fishing as economy generation rather than farming, which further increases our chance of getting boat technology. We need boat tech. right now more than we do better farming.
    3. Two naval exploration actions have a pretty good chance of generating better boat technology.
    4. When we combine a few free technologies, reliable lumber production, and a huge naval focus, we've got a good chance of them all working together for some really good tech.
  3. Infrastructure:
    1. Tin mine allows us to get full scale production of bronze up as soon as possible.
    2. Increased quantity of bronze increases our chances of getting the really good bronze related techs like armour, shields, swords, and axes.
    3. In relation to the above point, bronze spears:
      1. (3,2) also increases our chance of getting longer, stronger spears, especially when combined with the sacred forest.
      2. These would allow us to better resist cavalry charges, as well as just help us fight better in general. Bronze spears aren't just good in tight formation.
      3. Cavalry probably aren't trained to charge into a braced wall of spears, though they are of course accustomed to stone-age style spearmen.
      4. Boar cavalry may just be fine with charging into spears as they do do it when people hunt them, but afaik that's mostly when they're cornered.
    4. As covered elsewhere, the free technologies, the reliable and cultivated lumber, and the vastly increased volume of bronze may combine to give us some sweet, sweet techs instantly.
The gold mine has a good chance of being the trigger for "true" wealth to enter our society. We might be using something rudimentary (like rare seashells or something) for our medium of exchange but a gold mine will lead eventually into centrally controlled coinage, which will probably lead to more stratification but also control over our society and greater ease when trading. We all thought the gold mine was valuable already, but at least this is an exploration of why.

As with everyone else I'm a fan of the blessing upgrade, hopefully it starts going into elf-strength and long-life, but I don't really agree with more blessings. They will probably be good, sure, but it's just not really the flavour I'm into when compared with more tech. We have a divine blessing for our people, and a divine bloodline for our Cadlons, that's me good with bloodline flavour.

I definitely think we should go for one of the Reacts I voted for. Exploration allows us to start building knowledge and with a fishing and two naval explores has a huge chance of giving us good/decent boat tech. I mean if we combine tech gain, reliable lumber production, and a huge naval focus, we're probably going to get some really good naval stuff. Plus it has the bonus that the econ generating activity is fishing rather than farming as, again, we need better boat tech more than we do extra farming tech.

If not the exploration and fishing, then focusing on infrastructure allows us to ramp up our bronze production as soon as possible. Increased quantity of bronze in our society will increase the chance that we're going to start using it for the really, really good shit like armour, shields, swords, axes, and long spears that will allow us to standfast against a cavalry charge. Plus it will benefit our trade, possibly to the point that we could start generating wealth from it, who knows.
 
[X] [Mega] Gain at least two Technologies
[X] [React] Focus on infrastructure. ([SEC] More Farming, [SEC] Develop Mine = Sunrise Mountains: Tin, [SEC] Build Palisade = Greenbay)
 
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I dislike the two blessing upgrades.

First off, while I would normally think that Arthryn's divine blessing wouldn't do any harm, the sidestories have consistently reduced my opinion of her commitment to equality. She appears to be completely unwilling to take any action to further equality, while being completely willing to consider stuff like implementing cup-size based class systems. As such, I fear that a further blessing upgrade will contain elements that will further degrade equality and increase societal discrimination.

And that's just lame. It removes some of what was unique about this specific quest. It just means we move closer to the path that was already trodden by the Ymarin, with the same social dynamics.

Getting a new blessing would be far, far worse, because almost every other God we have is openly in favor societal discrimination. The only exception I think is the All-Seeress, but she's having her brain rewritten by Wryn, so I don't count that as an independent viewpoint. Intentionally or not, if you rewrite someone's brain to be more like yours, you'll end up with a brain that is more like yours. The biases are transferred.
 
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Task: Mega
[X][Mega] Unlock another Divine Blessing.
No. of Votes: 25
Raichu1972
065tdsa
ALanos
Cariyaga
demonthese2211
Donkey Hote
Gino
Hallesworth49
HanEmpire
jamie96969
jjffjhjf
Kiba
Killer_Whale
KlinkerKing
kobo
LordEdric
nat_401
nkd1325
Pyre
Raptor580
Redciv3
Richiecorus
taovkool
UlseDovThur
Zaealix
[X][Mega] Upgrade the Blessing of Arthryn.
No. of Votes: 18
Raichu1972
065tdsa
ALanos
Brogatar
Cariyaga
Gino
jamie96969
Kiba
Killer_Whale
Knight Draco
kobo
LordEdric
Lukepop
Pyre
Raptor580
Redciv3
Richiecorus
UlseDovThur
[x][Mega] Gain at least two Technologies
No. of Votes: 12
Rockeye
Hallesworth49
jjffjhjf
Just Some Guy
KlinkerKing
Lukepop
nat_401
nkd1325
Random Member
Redciv3
taovkool
Zaealix
[X][Mega] Gain a new random Value
No. of Votes: 2
Chiperninerm
Donkey Hote
[X][Mega] Upgrade a random Value
No. of Votes: 2
Chiperninerm
Random Member
[x][Mega] Gain a random Hero.
No. of Votes: 2
Rockeye
Random Member
[X][Mega] Upgrade the Blood of Evalyn.
No. of Votes: 1
demonthese2211
——————————————————————————————————————————————Task: React
[x][React] Focus on infrastructure. ([SEC] More Farming, [SEC] Develop Mine = Sunrise Mountains: Tin, [SEC] Build Palisade = Greenbay)
No. of Votes: 21
Raptor580
065tdsa
ALanos
Brogatar
Chiperninerm
demonthese2211
Donkey Hote
Gino
Just Some Guy
Killer_Whale
Knight Draco
kobo
Lukepop
nat_401
nkd1325
Pyre
Redciv3
Richiecorus
Rockeye
UlseDovThur
Zaealix
[X][React] Focus on exploring. ([SEC] More Fishing, [SEC] Explore Lands = Western Coast, [SEC] Explore Lands = Northern Coast)
No. of Votes: 11
Raichu1972
ALanos
Donkey Hote
Hallesworth49
jjffjhjf
Kiba
KlinkerKing
kobo
Lukepop
Random Member
Zaealix
[X][React] Focus on the magical knowledge ([SEC] More Farming, [MAIN] Study Magic)
No. of Votes: 4
Raichu1972
HanEmpire
Redciv3
taovkool
[X][React] Focus on diplomacy. ([SEC] More Farming, [SEC] Trade Expedition = Caradysh, [SEC] Trade Expedition = Colryd)
No. of Votes: 3
Cariyaga
LordEdric
Random Member
Total No. of Voters: 32
 
[X][Mega] Upgrade the Blood of Evalyn.
[x][Mega] Gain at least two Technologies
[x][React] Focus on infrastructure. ([SEC] More Farming, [SEC] Develop Mine = Sunrise Mountains: Tin, [SEC] Build Palisade = Greenbay)
 
[X] [Mega] Gain at least two Technologies
[X] [Mega] Gain a random Hero.
[X] [React] Focus on exploring. ([SEC] More Fishing, [SEC] Explore Lands = Western Coast, [SEC] Explore Lands = Northern Coast)
 
[X] [Mega] Unlock another Divine Blessing.
[X] [Mega] Upgrade the Blessing of Arthryn.
[X] [React] Focus on infrastructure. ([SEC] More Farming, [SEC] Develop Mine = Sunrise Mountains: Tin, [SEC] Build Palisade = Greenbay)

I hope we can pry out a Blessing for the All Seeress.
And infrastructure. God we need more of that.
 
[X] [Mega] Unlock another Divine Blessing.
[X] [Mega] Upgrade the Blessing of Arthryn.
[X] [React] Focus on the magical knowledge ([SEC] More Farming, [MAIN] Study Magic)
 
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