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Chronicles of Nations - Civ Quest

Should the world be a Low Fantasy setting?

  • Yes

    Votes: 63 70.0%

  • No

    Votes: 27 30.0%
  • Total voters
    90
  • Poll closed .
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[X] [Caradysh] Urth is offering to share her magical knowledge with the People. (Ends the War, Warriors are happy, Priestesses are unsure, ???)
[X] [Colryd] Send some Arthrynite priestesses to her court. (-1 Temp Mystic, Improved Relations with the Colryd, Gain Domesticated Animals or Information on the Caradysh, ???,)
[X] [Colryd] Send goods and gifts to the Colryd. (-1 Temp Econ, Improved Relations with the Colryd, Gain Domesticated Animals or Information on the Caradysh, ???)
[X] [Colryd] Send some experts to help them with the Colryd with their farming. (-1 Temp Econ, Improved Relations with the Colryd, Gain Domesticated Animals or Information on the Caradysh, ???)
[X] [Colryd] Send some Catclaws and Cateyes to help the Colryd secure their position. (-1 Temp Martial, Improved Relations with the Colryd, Gain Domesticated Animals or Information on the Caradysh, ???)
[X] [Colryd] Provide the Colryd with copper tools. (-1 Temp Culture, Improved Relations with the Colryd, Gain Domesticated Animals or Information on the Caradysh, ???)
 
Assholes with an inferiority complex who will attack us right now are worse than the undead who will betray us later. I'm still very concerned about this:
Oshha said:
Urth let her descendant go after she had repaid her cost of raising by providing a score of Daughters of her own
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Since it means Urth is most likely mass producing daughters at a prodigious rate. But ultimately the civilization that literally cannot abide us existing even for a moment comes first.
 
[X] [Caradysh] Reject their terms until they have been brought to justice. (-3 Temp Diplo, Continues the war, Warriors are unhappy, Priestesses are happy)
 
[X] [Colryd] Send some Arthrynite priestesses to her court. (-1 Temp Mystic, Improved Relations with the Colryd, Gain Domesticated Animals or Information on the Caradysh, ???,)
[X] [Colryd] Send goods and gifts to the Colryd. (-1 Temp Econ, Improved Relations with the Colryd, Gain Domesticated Animals or Information on the Caradysh, ???)


[X] [Caradysh] Urth is offering tamed animals from the lowlands as gifts to the People. (Ends the War, Warriors are happy, Priestesses are unhappy, ???)
[X] [Caradysh] The Caradysh are offering to help the Arthwyd in their future war against the Forluc. (Ends the War, Warriors are happy, Priestesses are unsure, ???)
[X] [Caradysh] Urth is offering to share her magical knowledge with the People. (Ends the War, Warriors are happy, Priestesses are unsure, ???)
 
[X] [Colryd] Send some Arthrynite priestesses to her court. (-1 Temp Mystic, Improved Relations with the Colryd, Gain Domesticated Animals or Information on the Caradysh, ???,)
[X] [Colryd] Send goods and gifts to the Colryd. (-1 Temp Econ, Improved Relations with the Colryd, Gain Domesticated Animals or Information on the Caradysh, ???)
[X] [Colryd] Send some experts to help them with the Colryd with their farming. (-1 Temp Econ, Improved Relations with the Colryd, Gain Domesticated Animals or Information on the Caradysh, ???)

[X] [Caradysh] The Caradysh are offering to help the Arthwyd in their future war against the Forluc. (Ends the War, Warriors are happy, Priestesses are unsure, ???)
[X] [Caradysh] The Caradysh is offering to provide a regular supply of free information from the lowlands and beyond to the People. (Ends the War, Warriors are happy, Priestesses are unhappy, ???)
[X] [Caradysh] Urth is offering tamed animals from the lowlands as gifts to the People. (Ends the War, Warriors are happy, Priestesses are unhappy, ???)
[X] [Caradysh] Urth is offering to share her magical knowledge with the People. (Ends the War, Warriors are happy, Priestesses are unsure, ???)
[X] [Caradysh] The Caradysh will provide the Arthwyd with regular tribute. (Ends the War, Warriors are happy, Priestesses are unhappy, ???)
 
[X] [Colryd] Send some Arthrynite priestesses to her court. (-1 Temp Mystic, Improved Relations with the Colryd, Gain Domesticated Animals or Information on the Caradysh, ???,)
[X] [Caradysh] Urth is offering to share her magical knowledge with the People. (Ends the War, Warriors are happy, Priestesses are unsure, ???)

Magic and animals.
Power. Power to fight assholes, be they smug Bliches or Ultra Lowlanders.

New magic may split part of power off from priestess, yet... it could make new fields to study and counter Urth's power.
 
[X] [Colryd] Send some Catclaws and Cateyes to help the Colryd secure their position. (-1 Temp Martial, Improved Relations with the Colryd, Gain Domesticated Animals or Information on the Caradysh, ???)
[X] [Caradysh] The Caradysh are offering to help the Arthwyd in their future war against the Forluc. (Ends the War, Warriors are happy, Priestesses are unsure, ???)
 
PurposefulZephyr said:
[X] [Colryd] Send some Arthrynite priestesses to her court. (-1 Temp Mystic, Improved Relations with the Colryd, Gain Domesticated Animals or Information on the Caradysh, ???,)
[X] [Caradysh] Urth is offering to share her magical knowledge with the People. (Ends the War, Warriors are happy, Priestesses are unsure, ???)

Magic and animals.
Power. Power to fight assholes, be they smug Bliches or Ultra Lowlanders.

New magic may split part of power off from priestess, yet... it could make new fields to study and counter Urth's power.
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Brogatar said:
[X] [Colryd] Send some Catclaws and Cateyes to help the Colryd secure their position. (-1 Temp Martial, Improved Relations with the Colryd, Gain Domesticated Animals or Information on the Caradysh, ???)
[X] [Caradysh] The Caradysh are offering to help the Arthwyd in their future war against the Forluc. (Ends the War, Warriors are happy, Priestesses are unsure, ???)
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Just as an FYI, this current vote is one of approval, where every vote with half the total votes counts.

I could see why you might not want to give the Corlyd much, but why wouldn't you want to ream the Caradysh for all they're worth?
 
[X] [Colryd] Send some Arthrynite priestesses to her court. (-1 Temp Mystic, Improved Relations with the Colryd, Gain Domesticated Animals or Information on the Caradysh, ???,)
[X] [Caradysh] Urth is offering to share her magical knowledge with the People. (Ends the War, Warriors are happy, Priestesses are unsure, ???)
 
Assessment time, didn't have time to do in detail earlier.
Note that the more we offer/demand the more likely to seem generous/greedy.

The Queen Eira of the Colryd seek to strengthen ties with the People. What do the Arthwyd do? Any option with over 50% of the voters voting for it will win they are compatible with the option that has the most votes.
[] [Colryd] Ignore her overtures. (No Change)

The obvious.

[] [Colryd] Send some Arthrynite priestesses to her court. (-1 Temp Mystic, Improved Relations with the Colryd, Gain Domesticated Animals or Information on the Caradysh, ???,)

This works to convert more people to our religion, and given our history this means more people will become People. Blessings proliferation(but they're already proliferated, thank Urth), and our values would spread to interesting results.

[] [Colryd] Send goods and gifts to the Colryd. (-1 Temp Econ, Improved Relations with the Colryd, Gain Domesticated Animals or Information on the Caradysh, ???)

Simple, least lasting.

[] [Colryd] Send some experts to help them with the Colryd with their farming. (-1 Temp Econ, Improved Relations with the Colryd, Gain Domesticated Animals or Information on the Caradysh, ???)

This lets them get the most independence. Once they got their farming brought up to spec they'd not have much incentive to keep working with us beyond gratitude(fades in 3-5 turns no doubt).

[] [Colryd] Send some Catclaws and Cateyes to help the Colryd secure their position. (-1 Temp Martial, Improved Relations with the Colryd, Gain Domesticated Animals or Information on the Caradysh, ???)

Foreign military intervention. Would get us military innovation rolls, but also lets others copy our military ideas and of course, our people die for foreigners.

[] [Colryd] Provide the Colryd with copper tools. (-1 Temp Culture, Improved Relations with the Colryd, Gain Domesticated Animals or Information on the Caradysh, ???)

Without their ability to make their own copper, this strongly increases dependency on us, but also gives some significant social changes. We can give this freely, but it does accelerate regional attainment of Copperworking.

The Caradysh have come again with a second peace offer. Do the People accept and if so, with what terms? Any option with over 50% of the voters voting for it will win they are compatible with the option that has the most votes.
[] [Caradysh] Reject their terms until they have been brought to justice. (-3 Temp Diplo, Continues the war, Warriors are unhappy, Priestesses are happy)

The obvious.

[] [Caradysh] The Caradysh are offering to provide the Arthwyd with a regular tribute of Daughters of Urth to serve them. (Ends the War, Warriors are unsure, Priestesses are unhappy, ???)

Theres a lot of possibilities here, depending on how its taken, but its hmm...sort of slavery? And gives Urth access to potentially extant Assuming Direct Control bloodline magics.
On the other hand if they live in the People, as the People...well, more Blessings. More immortals means more immortal hero chances.

More stratification. More Random Member Ree-ing as it gravitates towards Arthryn Blessed Royal Daughters of Urth.

[] [Caradysh] Urth is offering tamed animals from the lowlands as gifts to the People. (Ends the War, Warriors are happy, Priestesses are unhappy, ???)

Domestication. We can get this elsewhere, but more variety isn't bad.

[] [Caradysh] The Caradysh are offering to submit as a vassal to the Arthwyd. (Ends the War, Warriors are unsure, Priestesses are unsure, ???)

We'd be taking responsibility for them. They'd be People.
Depends rather strongly on how much control Urth actually has over things though.


[] [Caradysh] The Caradysh are offering to help the Arthwyd in their future war against the Forluc. (Ends the War, Warriors are happy, Priestesses are unsure, ???)

Common Foe. We want this regardless. The Forluc are a mutual threat and a military cooperation makes sense.

[] [Caradysh] The Caradysh is offering to provide a regular supply of free information from the lowlands and beyond to the People. (Ends the War, Warriors are happy, Priestesses are unhappy, ???)

Still useful, but of course its filtered through them and gives a lot of ways to influence us.

[] [Caradysh] Urth is offering to share her magical knowledge with the People. (Ends the War, Warriors are happy, Priestesses are unsure, ???)

If we want to stop screaming about Urth's OP magical bullshit we're going to need to catch up. And the first step is to learn their magic.

[] [Caradysh] The Caradysh will provide the Arthwyd with regular tribute. (Ends the War, Warriors are happy, Priestesses are unhappy, ???)

Note that this actually makes the peace less sustainable. The Caradysh will be asking questions like "why do we keep giving those assholes stuff" a generation later.
Regular tribute is often a good way to ensure regular war.
 
[X] [Colryd] Send some Arthrynite priestesses to her court. (-1 Temp Mystic, Improved Relations with the Colryd, Gain Domesticated Animals or Information on the Caradysh, ???,)
[X] [Colryd] Send goods and gifts to the Colryd. (-1 Temp Econ, Improved Relations with the Colryd, Gain Domesticated Animals or Information on the Caradysh, ???)
[X] [Colryd] Send some experts to help them with the Colryd with their farming. (-1 Temp Econ, Improved Relations with the Colryd, Gain Domesticated Animals or Information on the Caradysh, ???)
[X] [Colryd] Send some Catclaws and Cateyes to help the Colryd secure their position. (-1 Temp Martial, Improved Relations with the Colryd, Gain Domesticated Animals or Information on the Caradysh, ???)
[X] [Colryd] Provide the Colryd with copper tools. (-1 Temp Culture, Improved Relations with the Colryd, Gain Domesticated Animals or Information on the Caradysh, ???)
[X] [Caradysh] The Caradysh are offering to provide the Arthwyd with a regular tribute of Daughters of Urth to serve them. (Ends the War, Warriors are unsure, Priestesses are unhappy, ???)
[X] [Caradysh] Urth is offering tamed animals from the lowlands as gifts to the People. (Ends the War, Warriors are happy, Priestesses are unhappy, ???)
[X] [Caradysh] The Caradysh are offering to submit as a vassal to the Arthwyd. (Ends the War, Warriors are unsure, Priestesses are unsure, ???)
[X] [Caradysh] The Caradysh are offering to help the Arthwyd in their future war against the Forluc. (Ends the War, Warriors are happy, Priestesses are unsure, ???)
[X] [Caradysh] The Caradysh is offering to provide a regular supply of free information from the lowlands and beyond to the People. (Ends the War, Warriors are happy, Priestesses are unhappy, ???)
[X] [Caradysh] Urth is offering to share her magical knowledge with the People. (Ends the War, Warriors are happy, Priestesses are unsure, ???)
[X] [Caradysh] The Caradysh will provide the Arthwyd with regular tribute. (Ends the War, Warriors are happy, Priestesses are unhappy, ???)

Approval voting all the acceptance offers in the hopes of getting as many in as possible. Will possibly adjust as further votes come in and things need tweaking.
 
[X] [Colryd] Send some Arthrynite priestesses to her court. (-1 Temp Mystic, Improved Relations with the Colryd, Gain Domesticated Animals or Information on the Caradysh, ???,)
[X] [Caradysh] Urth is offering to share her magical knowledge with the People. (Ends the War, Warriors are happy, Priestesses are unsure, ???)

Send in our priestesses and convert the lot. Take the magical knowledge offered so that if/when war breaks out against Caradysh in the future, we can be better prepared.
 
[X] [Caradysh] Reject their terms until they have been brought to justice. (-3 Temp Diplo, Continues the war, Warriors are unhappy, Priestesses are happy)
 
[X] [Colryd] Send some Arthrynite priestesses to her court. (-1 Temp Mystic, Improved Relations with the Colryd, Gain Domesticated Animals or Information on the Caradysh, ???,)
[X] [Colryd] Send some experts to help them with the Colryd with their farming. (-1 Temp Econ, Improved Relations with the Colryd, Gain Domesticated Animals or Information on the Caradysh, ???)
[X] [Colryd] Send some Catclaws and Cateyes to help the Colryd secure their position. (-1 Temp Martial, Improved Relations with the Colryd, Gain Domesticated Animals or Information on the Caradysh, ???)

[X] [Caradysh] Urth is offering tamed animals from the lowlands as gifts to the People. (Ends the War, Warriors are happy, Priestesses are unhappy, ???)
[X] [Caradysh] The Caradysh are offering to submit as a vassal to the Arthwyd. (Ends the War, Warriors are unsure, Priestesses are unsure, ???)
[X] [Caradysh] The Caradysh are offering to help the Arthwyd in their future war against the Forluc. (Ends the War, Warriors are happy, Priestesses are unsure, ???)
[X] [Caradysh] Urth is offering to share her magical knowledge with the People. (Ends the War, Warriors are happy, Priestesses are unsure, ???)
[X][Caradysh] The Caradysh are offering to provide the Arthwyd with a regular tribute of Daughters of Urth to serve them. (Ends the War, Warriors are unsure, Priestesses are unhappy, ???)
[X][Caradysh] The Caradysh will provide the Arthwyd with regular tribute. (Ends the War, Warriors are happy, Priestesses are unhappy, ???)
 
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Task: Caradysh
[X][Caradysh] Urth is offering to share her magical knowledge with the People. (Ends the War, Warriors are happy, Priestesses are unsure, ???)
No. of Votes: 25
HanEmpire
10ebbor10
Cariyaga
Chiperninerm
Citino
ctulhuslp
Donkey Hote
Genji
Gino
Hallesworth49
Kiba
kilopi505
Knight Draco
masterofmadness
nat_401
nkd1325
PurposefulZephyr
Pyre
Raichu1972
Raptor580
Redciv3
Star
thefoolswriter
veekie
wingstrike96
[X][Caradysh] The Caradysh are offering to help the Arthwyd in their future war against the Forluc. (Ends the War, Warriors are happy, Priestesses are unsure, ???)
No. of Votes: 22
ctulhuslp
10ebbor10
Brogatar
Chiperninerm
Citino
demonthese2211
Donkey Hote
Gino
Hallesworth49
Kiba
Knight Draco
masterofmadness
nat_401
nkd1325
Raichu1972
Raptor580
Redciv3
Star
thefoolswriter
veekie
wingstrike96
Zaealix
[X][Caradysh] Urth is offering tamed animals from the lowlands as gifts to the People. (Ends the War, Warriors are happy, Priestesses are unhappy, ???)
No. of Votes: 11
Kiba
10ebbor10
Donkey Hote
Gino
Hallesworth49
Knight Draco
Raichu1972
Redciv3
Star
UlseDovThur
wingstrike96
[X][Caradysh] The Caradysh is offering to provide a regular supply of free information from the lowlands and beyond to the People. (Ends the War, Warriors are happy, Priestesses are unhappy, ???)
No. of Votes: 10
Kiba
10ebbor10
Citino
demonthese2211
Donkey Hote
Knight Draco
masterofmadness
Raichu1972
Raptor580
veekie
[X][Caradysh] The Caradysh will provide the Arthwyd with regular tribute. (Ends the War, Warriors are happy, Priestesses are unhappy, ???)
No. of Votes: 9
Kiba
10ebbor10
Donkey Hote
masterofmadness
nat_401
nkd1325
Raichu1972
Raptor580
thefoolswriter
[X][Caradysh] Reject their terms until they have been brought to justice. (-3 Temp Diplo, Continues the war, Warriors are unhappy, Priestesses are happy)
No. of Votes: 6
jamie96969
dudedorey
Kiba
Random Member
StarkDemise
taovkool
[X][Caradysh] The Caradysh are offering to submit as a vassal to the Arthwyd. (Ends the War, Warriors are unsure, Priestesses are unsure, ???)
No. of Votes: 4
Kiba
Gino
Raichu1972
Star
[X][Caradysh] The Caradysh are offering to provide the Arthwyd with a regular tribute of Daughters of Urth to serve them. (Ends the War, Warriors are unsure, Priestesses are unhappy, ???)
No. of Votes: 2
Kiba
Raichu1972
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[X][Colryd] Send some Arthrynite priestesses to her court. (-1 Temp Mystic, Improved Relations with the Colryd, Gain Domesticated Animals or Information on the Caradysh, ???,)
No. of Votes: 26
HanEmpire
10ebbor10
Cariyaga
Chiperninerm
Citino
ctulhuslp
demonthese2211
Donkey Hote
Genji
Gino
Hallesworth49
Kiba
kilopi505
kobo
masterofmadness
nat_401
nkd1325
PurposefulZephyr
Pyre
Raichu1972
Redciv3
Star
thefoolswriter
veekie
wingstrike96
Zaealix
[X][Colryd] Send goods and gifts to the Colryd. (-1 Temp Econ, Improved Relations with the Colryd, Gain Domesticated Animals or Information on the Caradysh, ???)
No. of Votes: 16
ctulhuslp
10ebbor10
Cariyaga
Chiperninerm
demonthese2211
Donkey Hote
Knight Draco
kobo
masterofmadness
nat_401
nkd1325
Raichu1972
Redciv3
thefoolswriter
UlseDovThur
wingstrike96
[X][Colryd] Send some experts to help them with the Colryd with their farming. (-1 Temp Econ, Improved Relations with the Colryd, Gain Domesticated Animals or Information on the Caradysh, ???)
No. of Votes: 14
nat_401
Cariyaga
Chiperninerm
Citino
demonthese2211
Donkey Hote
Gino
Hallesworth49
masterofmadness
Raichu1972
Raptor580
Star
thefoolswriter
veekie
[X][Colryd] Send some Catclaws and Cateyes to help the Colryd secure their position. (-1 Temp Martial, Improved Relations with the Colryd, Gain Domesticated Animals or Information on the Caradysh, ???)
No. of Votes: 5
Gino
Brogatar
Cariyaga
Raichu1972
Star
[X][Colryd] Provide the Colryd with copper tools. (-1 Temp Culture, Improved Relations with the Colryd, Gain Domesticated Animals or Information on the Caradysh, ???)
No. of Votes: 4
Random Member
Cariyaga
Knight Draco
Raichu1972
[X][Colryd] Ignore her overtures. (No Change)
No. of Votes: 1
taovkool
Total No. of Voters: 35
 
demonthese2211 said:
This quest uses approval voting not plan voting. If you want to vote for what Veekie did and have it count you need to copy what they voted for and paste it into your post.
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That sort of voting is allowed because it isn't plan voting, it is just hitching your vote to another poster's vote.
 
These are the current winning votes from the tally. I am not quite sure why we aren't demanding MOAR of the things from the Caradyash.

[][Caradysh] Urth is offering to share her magical knowledge with the People. (Ends the War, Warriors are happy, Priestesses are unsure, ???)
[][Caradysh] The Caradysh are offering to help the Arthwyd in their future war against the Forluc. (Ends the War, Warriors are happy, Priestesses are unsure, ???)

[][Colryd] Send some Arthrynite priestesses to her court. (-1 Temp Mystic, Improved Relations with the Colryd, Gain Domesticated Animals or Information on the Caradysh, ???,)
[][Colryd] Send goods and gifts to the Colryd. (-1 Temp Econ, Improved Relations with the Colryd, Gain Domesticated Animals or Information on the Caradysh, ???)
[][Colryd] Send some experts to help them with the Colryd with their farming. (-1 Temp Econ, Improved Relations with the Colryd, Gain Domesticated Animals or Information on the Caradysh, ???)
 
Oshha said:
The Caradysh have come again with a second peace offer. Do the People accept and if so, with what terms? Any option with over 50% of the voters voting for it will win they are compatible with the option that has the most votes.
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Just to clarify, does that mean we get everything that we vote for or that we ask for everything we vote for?
 
[X][Colryd] Send some Arthrynite priestesses to her court. (-1 Temp Mystic, Improved Relations with the Colryd, Gain Domesticated Animals or Information on the Caradysh, ???,)
[X][Colryd] Send goods and gifts to the Colryd. (-1 Temp Econ, Improved Relations with the Colryd, Gain Domesticated Animals or Information on the Caradysh, ???)

[X][Caradysh] Urth is offering to share her magical knowledge with the People. (Ends the War, Warriors are happy, Priestesses are unsure, ???)
[X][Caradysh] Urth is offering tamed animals from the lowlands as gifts to the People. (Ends the War, Warriors are happy, Priestesses are unhappy, ???)
[X][Caradysh] The Caradysh will provide the Arthwyd with regular tribute. (Ends the War, Warriors are happy, Priestesses are unhappy, ???)

[X][Caradysh] The Caradysh is offering to provide a regular supply of free information from the lowlands and beyond to the People. (Ends the War, Warriors are happy, Priestesses are unhappy, ???)
-With the caveat that we treat it with a mountain of salt, especially at first. Potential information isn't bad, but we should never trust Urth's info, only take is as a general indicator, a "better than nothing but we need to correlate before we use it, and even then we don't trust it"
 
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