Should the world be a Low Fantasy setting?

  • Yes

    Votes: 63 70.0%
  • No

    Votes: 27 30.0%

  • Total voters
    90
  • Poll closed .
Part of me feels the trick here is that Urth is planning on becoming a God.

So what if he thinks that if he gets a larger religious base then he is going to turn into a stronger god - possibly strong enough to make a play for the rulership of the Pantheon he may think?
 
I see what he's trying to do now, he knows a military fight will always end in a stalemate so why not win the cultural war? In essence use his daughters to slowly turn the men away from worshipping Arthryn and then the subsequent families will worship him. In due time he could gain a male body to posses and if that fails? Ascend to Godhood when enough people are worshipping him. Quite devious and with a high chance of suceeding too. Even if all that fails, he would gain the Maradysh quite easily and fuse them with the Caradysh to form an Empire to take the lowlands. The Eternal Empire of Urth has a nice ring to it and then use that to achieve Godhood.
 
Problem here is that if we do not accept any of these offers, the Maradysh are likely to rebel in few turns.
They are too easily swayed and the hate toward the People born from the thread's decisions on hero selection and bad dice rolls back then, will lead to them willingly siding with Urth over us. Not accepting will also cause the people to look like warmongers for continuing this war.
 
Urth can't and Urth is knowledgeable enough to know it. Urth wants to keep away from Arthryn and keep her from coming after them.

Hmm. So Urth wants peace so that Arthryn won't have a reason to go after him/her/it and probably knows a bit about Arthwyd culture and views so knows that so long as their is not peace the Arthwyd would continue to attack and in doing so bring Arthryn to wreck him which would be a major threat.

He probably cares little for what he has so long as he gets the time needed to ascend to godhood.
 
Problem here is that if we do not accept any of these offers, the Maradysh are likely to rebel in few turns.
They are too easily swayed and the hate toward the People born from the thread's decisions on hero selection and bad dice rolls back then, will lead to them willingly siding with Urth over us. Not accepting will also cause the people to look like warmongers for continuing this war.
Then we shall do what we should, in hindsight, have done before. Because we must face it, the Maradysh have been a giant mess from the very beginning: their influence changed our government but their people never actually converted properly, their irrational fear of the lowlands left us cut off from whoever lives next to their border, and they won't even help us in battle against our mutual foe as is their duty.

They have taken advantage of our kindness and tolerance too many times. If they break off now, there will be no easy forgiveness.
 
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[X] Refuse this the undead abomination and reject all of the offers it is making. (???)

Yeah, this doesn't sound sketchy in the least. There is more to this than it's face value.
 
Frankly, Urth feels like the antagonist that shall never die. You know, someone who The Plot just won't allow us to kill.
After all, our hero critted when Urth failed, his divine backup crit-failed while our goddess crit-succeeded
And yet: here he is, rolling and crushing our military LIKE A BOSS.
 
[x] Urth is offering to provide a regular supply of free information from the lowlands and beyond to the People. (Chance of Gaining Stability, ???)
[x] Urth is offering to share his magical knowledge with the People. (Chance of Gaining Stability, ???)
[x] Urth will provide regular tribute to the Arthwyd. (Chance of Gaining Stability, ???)
Adhoc vote count started by Raptor580 on Mar 13, 2019 at 11:11 AM, finished with 8692 posts and 37 votes.
 
[X] Refuse this the undead abomination and reject all of the offers it is making. (???)

Gotta agree I don't trust Urth at all. Seems like a poisoned apple.

Also kinda surprised that narratively we're even given this decision, I mean he's basically the devil, not only does he work with undead but also has taken our bodies and divine blessing and created a twisted blessing. Seems like peace shouldn't really be valid at all for a civ like ours that is so invested in our religion.

I wouldn't go so far as to say he has plot armor but if we kill him again and he revives it just becomes kind of annoying. The best option at this point seems to be having him ascend as fast as possible then our pantheon can just kill him. Shouldn't be any revives for a dead god.
 
[X] Refuse this the undead abomination and reject all of the offers it is making. (???)
 
Do note that you have Detect Undead as a spell so undead animals or undead spies are impossible. Additionally, Morbyn doesn't register for it and according to the priests and sacred warriors, she is alive like a normal person if infused with a twisting blessing. You also have a lot of first-hand accounts that her body has a full range of biological functions. So she is alive with supernatural powers and not undead.
Hrrm...Twisted blessing?
Okay this opens a potential hole. Once again, Urth does not want to tango with the Goddesses, so that's nice to remember.
Culture war-Do Not Want. Urth can Mind-Control people, and his daughters don't age. Given enough time they'll have tenure and be able to work all sorts of shenanigans, on top of having swiped our Beauty.
Martial- we'll need time to prep a new set of Catclaws and Cateyes. Plus all of whatever Urth's been building up in that Forest...Though we DO now have a Holy Hot-spot that the Goddesses might be able to do shenanigans with...Hrrm.
Mystic-interesting. Urth probably has more magic for the general populace (see all the Undead), but he doesn't want to tango with the Goddesses. Personally? I bet it'd be worth it to stick with the ladies.
 
I'm curious @Oshha is it safe to say that if we deny peace our friendly little vassals to the south have a decent chance of rebelling against us (again).
 
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[X] Refuse this the undead abomination and reject all of the offers it is making. (???)

Yeah, no. We do not want this bastard to start reviving. It's probably going to start another disaster but an evil civ is not worth letting stay alive.

Next choice turns I'm going to pick another war party. I really thought the scout rolls from the Crafters can be picked to the Cursed Forest though.
 
[X] Refuse this the undead abomination and reject all of the offers it is making. (???)
No way, this ends poorly for us long-term.
 
[X] Refuse this the undead abomination and reject all of the offers it is making. (???)

Urth should know he made a enemy of us, why should he seek peace?

Unless he has another enemy he wants us to fight...this we end his abominable existence.

Fuck undead and their bullshit.

A curse upon Urth and all
Who share his stolen blood! A curse untill he has repented what he has stolen a hundred fold!

May his efforts always fail just within the reach of his goals! His enemies surround and bite him like a swarm of insects to bleed him white and reduce his strength to ash! May his house be cursed with fallen luck and his powers wither and dry like a creek within a endless heat wave.

May Urth and his daughters be barren and seen through the lies and deceit to their black hearts and rejected by all untill Urth and his followers repent!
 
[X] Refuse this the undead abomination and reject all of the offers it is making. (???)

Urth should know he made a enemy of us, why should he seek peace?

Unless he has another enemy he wants us to fight...this we end his abominable existence.

Fuck undead and their bullshit.

A curse upon Urth and all
Who share his stolen blood! A curse untill he has repented what he has stolen a hundred fold!

May his efforts always fail just within the reach of his goals! His enemies surround and bite him like a swarm of insects to bleed him white and reduce his strength to ash! May his house be cursed with fallen luck and his powers wither and dry like a creek within a endless heat wave.

May Urth and his daughters be barren and seen through the lies and deceit to their black hearts and rejected by all untill Urth and his followers repent!
I feel like this could be a poem of some kind.
 
Part of me feels the trick here is that Urth is planning on becoming a God.

So what if he thinks that if he gets a larger religious base then he is going to turn into a stronger god - possibly strong enough to make a play for the rulership of the Pantheon he may think?

Urth is definitely trying to use this to become a god. They studied us right? So I'm assuming they know about the assimilation of the all-seeress? I'm sure treading on an already worn narrative rut into an established pantheon is much easier than bootstrapping your way up to sole divinity.
 
[X] Refuse this the undead abomination and reject all of the offers it is making. (???)
 
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