The Long Night Part One: Embers in the Dusk: A Planetary Governor Quest (43k) Complete Sequel Up

Reynal · Mar 2, 2019

[X] Marry Baron Sigmund 'The Defiant' of the Aesir- best combat, decent Martial, allows formation of Knight House on Avernus.

Ultimately, for me this choice comes down to what we want to be good at long term, and my opinion there strongly favors elite combatants. The psyker piloted knights are likely to be game changers regardless of how well executed they are, but with an extremely skilled and innovative knight pilot at the helm with excellent teaching skills they're gonna be a whole new level of scary.

The other options offer more from a political and/or economic viewpoint, but I trust the Trust and Dragon's Nest to not need us in a position to massively influence polity wide politics. And while a strong economy is important for us, I see it as being important inasmuch as it enables us to raise and equip elite units. And right now at least our economy is entirely capable of that.

Joseph890 · Mar 2, 2019

I actually have a question. Where was the discussion about humans in the tau Empire? I tried looking for it but I could not find it

Dragon_352 · Mar 2, 2019

Adventwolf said:
The Psy-Knights get made much easier and better with Sigmund than without him and the Knights he brings along.

As for the Rogue Trader

See above on how he affects our training of Psy-Knights. Unless you are asking about the regular people doing a choir? That has been asked a few time during this quest mostly during the early years. I think it is in one of the FAQs or in the Compilation statements somewhere. Sorry, it took a bit to reply.

Everything I have said is based on what Durin put up along with simple extrapolation of what facts are available. This Sigmund is already very different from the one I made, so it is not me giving my character anything extra. The one I made had a higher piety and admin score, a lower intrigue, and he was never going to be a Marshal, so he is plenty different. Also based on his posts on just what Sigmund can bring and do. Sorry, it took a while to reply.

yeah, I have read the same things you have..the thing though is that "makes our trainees learn faster/better" is not much info...we need actual numbers to do a proper comparison

Adventwolf · Mar 2, 2019

Tom Smith said:
yeah, I have read the same things you have..the thing though is that "makes our trainees learn faster/better" is not much info...we need actual numbers to do a proper comparison

Fair enough but I don't think we will get an answer. That kind of information would probably take an investigation to find out about. If we do then that will be great and make a comparison so much easier.

Binge-Reader · Mar 2, 2019

Ugh this entire process is just reminding me why I hate marriage votes in general. I'm gonna peace out for the next few updates since frankly this makes me aggravated and stressed, I'm hear to have fun dammit.

Nurgle · Mar 2, 2019

@Durin can we get some more information about the two characters in the lead?
1 how much faster will the Baron allow us to train psyker knights?
2 how much better will he train psyker knights?
3 how big of a fleet does the Rogue trader house have?
4 can we send the rogue trader on expeditions?

Dragon_352 · Mar 2, 2019

Nurgle said:
@Durin can we get some more information about the two characters in the lead?
1 how much faster will the Baron allow us to train psyker knights?
2 how much better will he train psyker knights?
3 how big of a fleet does the Rogue trader house have?
4 can we send the rogue trader on expeditions?

durin might make us do a action where str meets said partys

Andres · Mar 2, 2019

@Durin, I think you missed this omake.

REAPER35 · Mar 2, 2019

[X] Marry Baron Sigmund 'The Defiant' of the Aesir- best combat, decent Martial, allows formation of Knight House on Avernus.

strauss · Mar 2, 2019

[X] Marry Alfons Uberti of the Uberti Dynasty- best admin by far, close ties with Uberti Rogue Trader Dynasty of Dragon's Nest, political ties with Dragon's Nest.

Dynamesmouse · Mar 3, 2019

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Adhoc vote count started by REAPER35 on Mar 2, 2019 at 11:58 PM, finished with 431 posts and 56 votes.

33 people have voted
[X] Marry Baron Sigmund 'The Defiant' of the Aesir- best combat, decent Martial, allows formation of Knight House on Avernus.
- Andres
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- DkArthas
- Rungni Khazadson
- Azgrin
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- DragonParadox
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- Adventwolf
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- Reynal
- REAPER35
19 people have voted
[X] Marry Alfons Uberti of the Uberti Dynasty- best admin by far, close ties with Uberti Rogue Trader Dynasty of Dragon's Nest, political ties with Dragon's Nest.
- huntsman0697
- Nurgle
- MonkeyTypewriter
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- cl20
- SirHades2.0
- noliar
- VE12
- Stormgear
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- Nikandros
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- NPC45
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2 people have voted
[X] Marry Prince Amrit Misra of Karnas
- Heavenly Body
- Klaus Wulfenback
1 people have voted
[X] Arrange meetings between Syr and suitors
-[X] Baron Sigmund 'The Defiant' of the Aesir
-[X] Alfons Uberti of the Uberti Dynasty
- Doomed Wombat
1 people have voted
[X] Marry Prince Amrit Misra of Karnas- best Intrigue, good diplomacy, far better political ties with Karnas Sub-Sector, better political ties with Dragon's Nest.
- Zedman7054

agumentic · Mar 3, 2019

Adventwolf said:
See above on how he affects our training of Psy-Knights.

Well, you notice how it is entirely possible and practical to have Psy-Knights without marrying Sigmund? That means, he doesn't give them. Yes, they would be better with him, but impossible without.

Adventwolf · Mar 3, 2019

agumentic said:
Well, you notice how it is entirely possible and practical to have Psy-Knights without marrying Sigmund? That means, he doesn't give them. Yes, they would be better with him, but impossible without.

I didn't say it was impossible I said they would be more practical with him.

DkArthas · Mar 3, 2019

[X] Marry Prince Amrit Misra of

agumentic · Mar 3, 2019

Adventwolf said:
I didn't say it was impossible I said they would be more practical with him.

What you said was:

Adventwolf said:
Possible but so difficult it is not worth the effort.

Which is, in essence, the same thing - you say that we won't be able to deploy Psy-Knights without him, because it would be too difficult, specifically comparing to not-psykers in the choir, which extremely rare and non-standard occurrence. Well, that is not true.

Doomed Wombat said:
Given the size of a polity like the Dragons that likely makes them individually stronger than any single core world, or potentially even two core worlds.

Not really. Vanaheim fleet by itself could take on the entire Dragon's Nest navy and have a shot at victory.

Adventwolf · Mar 3, 2019

agumentic said:
What you said was:

Which is, in essence, the same thing - you say that we won't be able to deploy Psy-Knights without him, because it would be too difficult, specifically comparing to not-psykers in the choir, which extremely rare and non-standard occurrence. Well, that is not true.

Not really. Vanaheim fleet by itself could take on the entire Dragon's Nest navy and have a shot at victory.

Right fair enough. Still more difficult and less effective without a Knight House.

Don't we as the Trust outnumber their Navy by a lot?

agumentic · Mar 3, 2019

Adventwolf said:
Don't we as the Trust outnumber their Navy by a lot?

Oh yeah, as Trust we outnumber them by a lot, especially in heavier classes.

Shard · Mar 3, 2019

agumentic said:
Well, you notice how it is entirely possible and practical to have Psy-Knights without marrying Sigmund? That means, he doesn't give them. Yes, they would be better with him, but impossible without.

They are better with Sigmund.

I think people are getting heated about this, which I suppose is as to be expected with a Husbando vote.

Durin · Mar 3, 2019

Nurgle said:
@Durin
1 can we get the high council to help with psyker titans?
2 can we send the rogue trader on expeditions if we pick him?
3 do we know how big the rogue trader fleet is?
4 would having the rogue trader make getting votes from Dragon's nest easier?

1. ask
2. yes
3. 1000ish merchens, 500ish escorts, a few dozen capital ships, none larger then crusier
4. ??

Nurgle said:
@Durin can we get some more information about the two characters in the lead?
1 how much faster will the Baron allow us to train psyker knights?
2 how much better will he train psyker knights?
3 how big of a fleet does the Rogue trader house have?
4 can we send the rogue trader on expeditions?

1. doulbe?
2. qute a bit, though over time itwill even out

Adventwolf · Mar 3, 2019

agumentic said:
Oh yeah, as Trust we outnumber them by a lot, especially in heavier classes.

What is the Vanir Navy's number I can't find them only numbers for the trust fleet as a whole?

Dragon_352 · Mar 3, 2019

Durin said:
1. ask
2. yes
3. 1000ish merchens, 500ish escorts, a few dozen capital ships, none larger then crusier
4. ??

1. doulbe?
2. qute a bit, though over time itwill even out

(3)...how likely are we on getting to make use of said fleet? I assume we don't just suddenly get 1500+ ships even if they are small......

to be honest, I'm not sure how important this even is...cas its not likely we would want to move them over here when they are still doing good over there....

Shard · Mar 3, 2019

@Durin If you wouldn't mind, could you post the scale of C -> Combat Bonus and the same for M -> Martial Bonus, or the formula used to calculate the bonus in either the charsheet or somewhere suitable?

agumentic · Mar 3, 2019

Shard said:
They are better with Sigmund.

Sure, I never disputed that. Just that we can still make them without Sigmund.

Adventwolf said:
What is the Vanir Navy's number I can't find them only numbers for the trust fleet as a whole?

Imperial Trust Systems: Turn 122 threadmark, Current fleets of the Imperial Trust, Vanaheim column in Warships.

HanEmpire · Mar 3, 2019

@Durin:
1) the Syr's Suitors threadmark isn't included in the Index.
2) would the Rogue Trader marriage option let us send expeditions to the local Petty Imperiums without High Council input?

Karugus · Mar 3, 2019

[X] Marry Prince Amrit Misra of Karnas

He's useful, interesting, and I find the angle of trying to reconcile Avernus of all things with his need for a cause fascinating. Especially when he'd be primarily interacting with mister 'I've buried my wife, some of my best friends, my son in all but name, my daughter in law, and billions of people who think I have all the answers' and his daughter who's thrown herself into work ever since her mother died before her eyes.

To me, he's the only character who really posits the question 'what do they take away from Avernus as a person?'.

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