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The Long Night Part One: Embers in the Dusk: A Planetary Governor Quest (43k) Complete Sequel Up
- Thread starter Durin
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Shard
One and Many
- Location
- Malaysia
Sounds like a way to give Turoq more tech.
- Location
- Lowton
Don't misunderstand this is mostly badly repressed frustration at his raiding and killing our asgaurd bro.
- Location
- Back in Cali
@Durin
1.So the material we get from melting them down will be the Battlebarge grade alloy right?
2. Will that make building more Battlebarges cheaper?
3. If we don't want to build them can we trade the alloy to someone who does want to?
- Location
- Toronto, Ontario(occasionally)
He wouldn't send his whole fleet to carry diplomats, a small force wiping out his messengers once they got far enough from his territory to avoid a timely response from his fleet might have been able to at least delay this attack by several years, maybe even multiple turns.
If we were extraordinarily lucky we might have even messed up his opprotunity to get one of his favored ally candidates in on the plan, either making the final force smaller, or forcing him to turn to less preferred sources for that force.
Edit: and if they're sending diplomats to him it could be even better.
Shard
One and Many
- Location
- Malaysia
With his daemons tracking all our ships this is folly.
- Location
- Brazil, Minas gerais
About they not attacking Avernus, I have the image of their leader seeing the horrible, horrible truth about this place and say in his head, 'nope, nope, Nope! Land of incredible warriors and tech I not going there.'
I mean he is not wrong^^.
re-lurking.
I mean he is not wrong^^.
re-lurking.
- Location
- western US
wait....so when does the interlude come in?
HanEmpire
Delicious
Next update will be the Interlude.
- Location
- Toronto, Ontario(occasionally)
The Roskilde expedition got through.
Though I acknowledge that should have provided him a significant bonus to efforts to avoid or stop interceptors.
Maybe ask Dragon's Nest or one of the minor polities to intercept them in exchange for a minor favor? Too late now anyways.
They would have the same problem that chaos ships are 10 times faster than imperial ships without the Astronomican.
- Location
- madison
Is niflheim getting more and more negative psykers like avernus is getting positive ones albeit at a slower rate? Because if so we might get might be getting a BlackSoul soon.
A BlackSoul or an omega- level psyker is on the opposite end of the spectrum to Alpha+, they are essentially blackholes in the warp, like Cadian plylon level of bullshit but on a smaller scale.
A BlackSoul or an omega- level psyker is on the opposite end of the spectrum to Alpha+, they are essentially blackholes in the warp, like Cadian plylon level of bullshit but on a smaller scale.
- Location
- To the left. No, not there, the other left.
They don't seem to be getting more strong blanks per capita, they're just growing in population thus more blanks. They always had some but kept quiet about it since it would have made them a huge target. And they won't be getting a Omega- any time soon, they have only handful of Chis and no Psis, much less Omegas.
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- Location
- United states
Whenever I read something like this this is how I imagine a non-avernites reaction to being sent to Avernus, chaos included.
Switch out Detroit with Avernus and it seems like a pretty accurate reaction.
- Location
- Toronto, Ontario(occasionally)
- Location
- To the left. No, not there, the other left.
We know that Atlas was taken over by Abominites.
- Location
- Toronto, Ontario(occasionally)
I was thinking that if Ridcully survives/recovers, we could steal their plans like we did for the crusade then concentrate forces on causing immense casualties in them and forcing them to call in the reserves before Turoq can do too much damage.
Cegorach's wondrous piles of assets plans and contingencies .*
- Location
- madison
Cegorach's wondrous piles of assets plans and contingencies .*
(*with helpful notations from Zahak!)
You are not my secretary.
Plans
(*with helpful notations from Zahak!)
You are not my secretary.
Plans
Plan: the Immaculate Order, let's find a job for all those minor gods lurking around.* the tau should be getting enough people with souls worth a damn under their aegis around the time that happens.
Requirements: Zahaks mob gets whipped into shape without losing to many, tau get enough soul power together.
Risks: minor gods are shifty and untrustworthy lot** Small chance of creating a minor uncontrollable holy war across a good chunk of the galaxy.
General overview : The tau are within a rounding error of being soulless, a generally smart move since it lets them opt out of most of the divine meddling thing. The issue is they are imperialistic little buggers and are going to have a whole lot of people under their aegis who foolishly opted in on having a statistically significant soul. This is kind of an issues because the tau are aggressively bad at religion***. It took them a hilariously long time to realize that other people could in fact pray themselves into exploding into demons, and they have not moved much past basic chaos stomping. Once their non tau population reaches the point where it will be able to sustain a few gods this is something of an opportunity. With a few incidents**** to demonstrate the need for greater religious control we might get them in the market for some tame gods. Something my pantheon should be able to hook them up with. I figure if we manage to beat the fact that big E is legit coming back and will be able to talk to his worshipers we'd be able to really sell them on pushing their own per-packaged religion. I suspect they will rather like having a wide choice of gods to choose from, that kind of every person in their place thing seems to appeal to them. Being the broker for a deal like that would be a fair bit of work, but if it works out not only will we be denying chaos a possible niche in a major player, but we'll have a good amount of leverage over the tau through the gods their subjects worship.***** It will also create a coalition of non chaotic gods, which is in and of itself useful. Or it could go wrong and spark a holy war between two nominal allies of the Aeldari, either or.
*aww, you do care.
** Hey!
*** it's a bit beyond that, you'd think they would see a 5ft women turn into a 20ft dragon and at least realize it's some kind of warp bullshit rather than rant about mass shifting. There's some kinda heavy duty blind spot there.
**** we might be able to get away with something flashy but harmless that quite clearly could have gone bloody, but i'm not super optimistic.
***** especially if I can get the other gods to make themselves useful. A bit of divine blessing can go a surprisingly long way if your smart and coordinated about it.
Requirements: Zahaks mob gets whipped into shape without losing to many, tau get enough soul power together.
Risks: minor gods are shifty and untrustworthy lot** Small chance of creating a minor uncontrollable holy war across a good chunk of the galaxy.
General overview : The tau are within a rounding error of being soulless, a generally smart move since it lets them opt out of most of the divine meddling thing. The issue is they are imperialistic little buggers and are going to have a whole lot of people under their aegis who foolishly opted in on having a statistically significant soul. This is kind of an issues because the tau are aggressively bad at religion***. It took them a hilariously long time to realize that other people could in fact pray themselves into exploding into demons, and they have not moved much past basic chaos stomping. Once their non tau population reaches the point where it will be able to sustain a few gods this is something of an opportunity. With a few incidents**** to demonstrate the need for greater religious control we might get them in the market for some tame gods. Something my pantheon should be able to hook them up with. I figure if we manage to beat the fact that big E is legit coming back and will be able to talk to his worshipers we'd be able to really sell them on pushing their own per-packaged religion. I suspect they will rather like having a wide choice of gods to choose from, that kind of every person in their place thing seems to appeal to them. Being the broker for a deal like that would be a fair bit of work, but if it works out not only will we be denying chaos a possible niche in a major player, but we'll have a good amount of leverage over the tau through the gods their subjects worship.***** It will also create a coalition of non chaotic gods, which is in and of itself useful. Or it could go wrong and spark a holy war between two nominal allies of the Aeldari, either or.
*aww, you do care.
** Hey!
*** it's a bit beyond that, you'd think they would see a 5ft women turn into a 20ft dragon and at least realize it's some kind of warp bullshit rather than rant about mass shifting. There's some kinda heavy duty blind spot there.
**** we might be able to get away with something flashy but harmless that quite clearly could have gone bloody, but i'm not super optimistic.
***** especially if I can get the other gods to make themselves useful. A bit of divine blessing can go a surprisingly long way if your smart and coordinated about it.
Plan: Little death* when you've got a pantheon headed by two diametrically opposed goddesses the relationship is going to be some kind of heavily charged. Marriage would be a useful way to channel that.**
Requirements: Isha is up for a new relationship when we save her. Her and Ynnead hit it off, Kurnous unrecoverable.
Risks: Ynnead will probably force feed me my own bells if she finds out about this, Isha would do worse. Sets a precedent that makes me wonder about how Zahak keeps pushing the have Eldard and Ridcully coordinate.***
General overview : this is both a very simple and very complicated plan. Isha and Ynnead have a whole boatload of duality and opposing themes, and the whole meddling with the dead thing we have going is not going to do that any favors. Typically a death god gets sequestered to demarcate the boundaries between the living and the dead, but that's not really viable.**** so doing the whole queen of the living and the queen of the dead is going to be setting the seeds for some nasty conflicts. Considering the high body count infighting reaped the last time we had more than 2 gods that's a risk that cannot be dismissed. Exactly how or if we can swing this is going to largely depend on Isha***** since assuming she's still coherent, she's always been petty aware of most ways one can nudge a deity. So if I start up a series of vaguely suggestive plays about the close bond between them to get the idea into the Aeldari zeitgeist she'll catch on pretty quick. We may have to sell Isha on this openly , and i'm not entirely sure how she's going to react to us wanting to set her up. If we pull this off tying life and death together like this would pay some pretty big dividends, closing the cycle of life death and rebirth tends to be useful. Though we'd likely avoid the no big deal resurrection on the old empire, but maybe the typical kind of reincarnation where the mortals lose most of their memories could lead to something useful.******
*EEEEEEEE!
**matchmaking makes everything better.
*** I just think they would both like to spend time with someone on their own level, maybe a lot of time…
**** the Aeldari have always been kinda bad at treating death as something untouchable.
***** oh yeah, Yennead was made to protect the living as the Aeldari goddess of the dead. I'd bet my next 3 meals she's going to get all sorts of warm fuzzy protective feelings when she meets Isha.
****** fully integrating death as a part of life would be kinda a big deal for all sorts of reasons.
Requirements: Isha is up for a new relationship when we save her. Her and Ynnead hit it off, Kurnous unrecoverable.
Risks: Ynnead will probably force feed me my own bells if she finds out about this, Isha would do worse. Sets a precedent that makes me wonder about how Zahak keeps pushing the have Eldard and Ridcully coordinate.***
General overview : this is both a very simple and very complicated plan. Isha and Ynnead have a whole boatload of duality and opposing themes, and the whole meddling with the dead thing we have going is not going to do that any favors. Typically a death god gets sequestered to demarcate the boundaries between the living and the dead, but that's not really viable.**** so doing the whole queen of the living and the queen of the dead is going to be setting the seeds for some nasty conflicts. Considering the high body count infighting reaped the last time we had more than 2 gods that's a risk that cannot be dismissed. Exactly how or if we can swing this is going to largely depend on Isha***** since assuming she's still coherent, she's always been petty aware of most ways one can nudge a deity. So if I start up a series of vaguely suggestive plays about the close bond between them to get the idea into the Aeldari zeitgeist she'll catch on pretty quick. We may have to sell Isha on this openly , and i'm not entirely sure how she's going to react to us wanting to set her up. If we pull this off tying life and death together like this would pay some pretty big dividends, closing the cycle of life death and rebirth tends to be useful. Though we'd likely avoid the no big deal resurrection on the old empire, but maybe the typical kind of reincarnation where the mortals lose most of their memories could lead to something useful.******
*EEEEEEEE!
**matchmaking makes everything better.
*** I just think they would both like to spend time with someone on their own level, maybe a lot of time…
**** the Aeldari have always been kinda bad at treating death as something untouchable.
***** oh yeah, Yennead was made to protect the living as the Aeldari goddess of the dead. I'd bet my next 3 meals she's going to get all sorts of warm fuzzy protective feelings when she meets Isha.
****** fully integrating death as a part of life would be kinda a big deal for all sorts of reasons.
Plan: fairy godmothers. Isha being back on the scene will open up some opportunity's, including a possible way to get another god. The long imprisoned goddess of life being free and getting hitched is the kind of pivotal moment where gods can be born, if you clever about it.
Requirements: Isha hooking up, Yennead* would work but most any other god would do, we're also going to need the Immaculate Order up and running.
Risk: hoo boy, if you think mortal births are risky. The number of ways that a divine birth can go bad start at the kid eating the mom and go from there.
General overview: So typically, a god gestating takes a long ass time, but like all things in the warp with enough power, knowledge, and narrative you can bend that. Now the narrative we have to play with here is Isha at long last being free, ushering in a new era of hope and growth and striking a grave blow against rot and stagnation, some pretty fantastic narrative fodder and relevant to huge swaths of the galaxy. Knowledge wise, well we have the black library, if there is a way it's in there somewhere. Power wise, is where things get interesting. See, when your trying to do something specific the kind of power matters, if your trying to do something boring i'd be no good, but even a small good of boring crap would be great**. Now you can again, bend that at a premium in power, but gods are tied to there themes. But what if you had a lot of gods? The story of a child being born and receiving divine gifts is an old one, and if things work out with Zahaks mob we're going to have a whole pile of gods with useful domain kicking around. The idea Zahak came up with, with no ulterior motive i'm sure,*** was to essentially use the members of her mob who proved themselves trustworthy to broker power. We'd give the gods with useful portfolios a big dollop of power, an exchange they'd use most of it to make a blessing for the kid. This could in theory let us do a whole lot to shape and enhance the god. Course there is a hard limit of what could be achieved, the story of the golden child who will fix everything forever tends to end poorly. That would still leave us a whole lot of wiggle room though, being able to build a god from a wide array of parts could be big.****
* work really well. tying life and death together adds another load of narrative weight.
** and you wonder why you can't get a secretary.
*** you can't prove anything!
**** they would also be someone unattached around for one Big E shows up. Divine marriage alliances across racial lines would be useful.
Requirements: Isha hooking up, Yennead* would work but most any other god would do, we're also going to need the Immaculate Order up and running.
Risk: hoo boy, if you think mortal births are risky. The number of ways that a divine birth can go bad start at the kid eating the mom and go from there.
General overview: So typically, a god gestating takes a long ass time, but like all things in the warp with enough power, knowledge, and narrative you can bend that. Now the narrative we have to play with here is Isha at long last being free, ushering in a new era of hope and growth and striking a grave blow against rot and stagnation, some pretty fantastic narrative fodder and relevant to huge swaths of the galaxy. Knowledge wise, well we have the black library, if there is a way it's in there somewhere. Power wise, is where things get interesting. See, when your trying to do something specific the kind of power matters, if your trying to do something boring i'd be no good, but even a small good of boring crap would be great**. Now you can again, bend that at a premium in power, but gods are tied to there themes. But what if you had a lot of gods? The story of a child being born and receiving divine gifts is an old one, and if things work out with Zahaks mob we're going to have a whole pile of gods with useful domain kicking around. The idea Zahak came up with, with no ulterior motive i'm sure,*** was to essentially use the members of her mob who proved themselves trustworthy to broker power. We'd give the gods with useful portfolios a big dollop of power, an exchange they'd use most of it to make a blessing for the kid. This could in theory let us do a whole lot to shape and enhance the god. Course there is a hard limit of what could be achieved, the story of the golden child who will fix everything forever tends to end poorly. That would still leave us a whole lot of wiggle room though, being able to build a god from a wide array of parts could be big.****
* work really well. tying life and death together adds another load of narrative weight.
** and you wonder why you can't get a secretary.
*** you can't prove anything!
**** they would also be someone unattached around for one Big E shows up. Divine marriage alliances across racial lines would be useful.
@Durin I made another silly thing. though I do think that the plans are at least viable, and thats only like 60% my shiping googles.
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HanEmpire
Delicious
You should find a replacement name for this. I don't know if you wanted to imply it between Isha and Ynnead, but "Little Death" is a euphemism for orgasm.
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- Location
- madison
probably should not have left that in. swapped it out for something a little less R.
- Location
- madison
Considering the nature of Cegorach I think it's intentional.
yeah, then I relized it's maybe a bit far to push it on SV. so I changed it.