Magical Girl Phantom Ascension
- Thread starter SpoopyGhost
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meanderingCephalopod
- Location
- Back in Mitakihara after like 1000 years.
[X] Hold off for now (Maybe you should wait and see if she's trustworthy; Nel did advise against telling anyone else)
I suspect it'll be a good idea to let our teammates in on our ghostliness eventually, just, as a general rule if they're all reasonable people, that way we don't have any... miscommunications, lack of tactically relevant information (re: us potentially being willing to take more risks because us dying a second time is harder than our teammates dying for their first), or troubles brought on by inconstancies in our behaviour (e.g. never having family obligations to run off to take care of; not going to school; always being available; any weirdness about not being able to hang out in our civilian identity). Stuff that we could explain away, but that would get complicated. But for now, definitely vetting everyone first. Making sure they're someone we want to tell.
I also think that it seems like we'll be around enough long enough that we really should let our family know. We died suddenly in a car accident, right? Even if we'll be leaving for good at some point- the chance to say goodbye, and give everyone the chance to leave nothing unresolved or unsaid... I feel like that's worth giving our family a chance to have. (Specifically, I think telling them we'll be around as a ghost for at least awhile is the way to go; I think that letting them suspect it without confirming it probably has more of a chance to let them convince themselves their grief is driving them mad, or something unfortunate like that.)
I suspect it'll be a good idea to let our teammates in on our ghostliness eventually, just, as a general rule if they're all reasonable people, that way we don't have any... miscommunications, lack of tactically relevant information (re: us potentially being willing to take more risks because us dying a second time is harder than our teammates dying for their first), or troubles brought on by inconstancies in our behaviour (e.g. never having family obligations to run off to take care of; not going to school; always being available; any weirdness about not being able to hang out in our civilian identity). Stuff that we could explain away, but that would get complicated. But for now, definitely vetting everyone first. Making sure they're someone we want to tell.
I also think that it seems like we'll be around enough long enough that we really should let our family know. We died suddenly in a car accident, right? Even if we'll be leaving for good at some point- the chance to say goodbye, and give everyone the chance to leave nothing unresolved or unsaid... I feel like that's worth giving our family a chance to have. (Specifically, I think telling them we'll be around as a ghost for at least awhile is the way to go; I think that letting them suspect it without confirming it probably has more of a chance to let them convince themselves their grief is driving them mad, or something unfortunate like that.)
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I mean... if we move out of the house... where exactly are we going to go? I think we'd prefer to not be hanging out outside all night. Midori is the main option but at the moment at least that sounds super awkward for both of them, and I don't feel like being a huge presence in her life is a smart idea; unless we both agree to become pro MGs, we're either going to perma-die or be apart forever once these crises are resolved. It'll just cause more trauma. And we have no idea how really trustworthy this new girl is, or how well she'll take the whole deal, or if she'd be wiling to do it, or if she is even able to anyway. Like if we're not going to be staying at our parents for the duration, we're going to be there a while and it's rather unlikely, not impossible but unlikely we'll go the entire time without them noticing SOMETHING.
Honestly my initial expectation is that they aren't going to take this being kept from them well if they ever find out, but our secret and not theirs i guess, and might as well get an impression of what they're like before committing to anything.
[X] Hold off for now (Maybe you should wait and see if she's trustworthy; Nel did advise against telling anyone else)
Honestly my initial expectation is that they aren't going to take this being kept from them well if they ever find out, but our secret and not theirs i guess, and might as well get an impression of what they're like before committing to anything.
[X] Hold off for now (Maybe you should wait and see if she's trustworthy; Nel did advise against telling anyone else)
- Location
- St. Petersburg
Technically? We can 'rent' any free hotel room they have, it's not like they are full all year long.
Alternatively, we don't need a roof over our head at all since we don't have mortal needs. We don't get cold, or hungry, or suffer from the elements.
But there is no good reason to move out of our home. It's full of things and people that are ours, and I am not ready to just give them up 'because it is time to move on'. No it isn't! Who is there to tell us otherwise?
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1. That is going to be incredibly messy and honestly ridiculously bothersome.
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2. I really don't think we would be inclined to do that at all; we'd probably get used to it, but I doubt it's something we'd even want to get used to. We like having a bed and sleeping in a house with other people.
- Location
- St. Petersburg
...why? The most that'll ever happen is that the suite will be rumoured to be haunted and no one will bother renting it... which suits us just fine.
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I was imagining your plan slightly wrong- think more akin to Kyouko from Madoka than the equivalent of Magical Girl Poltergeist. It's a theoretical option I guess? If we can find a nearby hotel and just float in then that's cool; I think sleeping next to strangers constantly would be a little awkward, but we can just make some noise and probably scare away people if that becomes an issue. The next problem is that we'd be sleeping alone, and I'm not sure we'd be particularly fond of that, but it's something we could probably get used to and wouldn't need to do for that long most probably anyway.
But our family has more convenience, the presence of other people (MG ghost or not people often feel safer when they're sleeping in some strange place alone), it's a place we recognize, and they're our family, so we agree this is the better option I think.
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- Around here
Could we change into our magical girl form, but then change out of costume and into normal clothes while still being transformed? Maybe we could stay with our new friend if we did that. You know, have a really long sleepover. We could chat, get to know one another, do our makeup, talk about boys, or girls, I'm not judging, make fun of bad movies together late at night, etc.
You know, the kind of stuff we'd be doing with her if we weren't dead.
You know, the kind of stuff we'd be doing with her if we weren't dead.
- Location
- St. Petersburg
I am not sure we can change out of our magical costume, but we probably could wear normal clothes over that, yeah. It might be a way to mask our 'always transformed' condition.
ColdGoldLazarus
Contrary Quester, Spreadsheet Queen, Pink Flamingo
- Location
- Challenger Deep
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- She/Her
[X] Tell the new girl (Better to have her informed, so she doesn't think Midori's crazy or something like that)
Just to play Devil's advocate here; we may not have met her yet, but both Nel's commentary and that little snippet from just before we woke up again seem to imply she's probably pretty chill. I feel like letting her know may not be the worst thing, (though I still kinda want to be mysterious too) with the other three maybe needing more caution.
As far as the Q&A goes, it's good to finally have confirmation of the Yellow Ring, and it seems Nel's higher-ups were aware that it was missing. Nel strikes me as legitimately trustworthy, but I still smell something fishy from the rest of it. And it sounds like that one is, swift and chaotic? So maybe it's more of a wild-card, in terms of abilities, fitting for its current ambiguous role.
And the backstory is really really interesting. I wonder how much of that may or may not be relevant to current events. I guess we'll see.
Just to play Devil's advocate here; we may not have met her yet, but both Nel's commentary and that little snippet from just before we woke up again seem to imply she's probably pretty chill. I feel like letting her know may not be the worst thing, (though I still kinda want to be mysterious too) with the other three maybe needing more caution.
As far as the Q&A goes, it's good to finally have confirmation of the Yellow Ring, and it seems Nel's higher-ups were aware that it was missing. Nel strikes me as legitimately trustworthy, but I still smell something fishy from the rest of it. And it sounds like that one is, swift and chaotic? So maybe it's more of a wild-card, in terms of abilities, fitting for its current ambiguous role.
And the backstory is really really interesting. I wonder how much of that may or may not be relevant to current events. I guess we'll see.
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Just a bit more devil's advocacy: I would like to point out that as mentioned, we revealed ourselves to a girl because she was sad about our funeral. Yes, the situation has changed since then, but I don't think massive detriments have been established that would necessarily make us ridiculously more cautious when we know the person isn't going to use that information for horrible ends, especially since REALLY the request to keep it secret boils down to "It's kind of up to you but I'd rather you not? Strictly speaking it might be better." Not that harsh a dictate. And it's worth noting in the update itself she seemed to have slight reservations about the idea regarding secrecy given how it would work with team cohesion. And as I mentioned, if we don't tell her now, either we never tell her (I don't like this plan) or there's going to be a bit of frustration and friction when we do.
Now, I kind of want to see exactly who we're dealing with, the friction could actually prove to make the story more interesting at least for a time, and it isn't strictly OOC in my idealization of her character to maybe be a little cautious with new people from now on, especially having been (softly granted) told that maybe she should be. But like I'm not sure the choice is obvious enough to warrant this mass bandwagon either.
mCooperative
meanderingCephalopod
- Location
- Back in Mitakihara after like 1000 years.
I mean, on my part the "hold off for now" vote is coming from a place of "so we may just tell her later this afternoon, or even like five minutes into this upcoming operation with her if it seems like Midori is having trouble not letting on we're... us... but I'd like to at least see her in person first". I dunno. Like- hey, @SpoopyGhost, with the current "hold off for now" vote, I've been taking it to mean "we're currently transformed and thus visible; we're going to be introduced to this Varma-san formally; and when we go question the guy, if we haven't changed our mind and decided by that point to tell Varma-san we're a ghost sometime after our initial introduction, we're going to go invisible and just not explain why that's a thing we can do, but she is going to know that's what we're doing". Is that correct?
My vote is mostly just for the sake of "let's not start a conversation with a complete stranger with the topic that we're the ghost of Midori's classmate, because it's possible this is something we'll decide we don't want to share with said complete stranger, although I think it's more likely we'll decide to tell her later".
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For wagon potential purposes I'll switch, but I'm honestly not toooo deeply attached to either option. From the way I see it both have upsides and downsides that'll be interesting.
[X] Tell the new girl (Better to have her informed, so she doesn't think Midori's crazy or something like that)
[X] Tell the new girl (Better to have her informed, so she doesn't think Midori's crazy or something like that)
SpoopyGhost
Undead Demi Kuudere Tsundere
- Location
- Your Haunted Attic
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- She/Her
I decided on Nel since it's relatively gender-neutral; it sounds like it could lead to Nelson, or it could be Nellie.
Kikuko's not quite at the point of being able to joke about that yet. It's only day two from her perspective.
Not hugely important, I'll admit. Just wanted to find adequately alien names without making it outright gibberish. Like, the leader of the revolution, the Aztec portion of their name apparently translates to "kind serpent" and the Emperor was "war serpent" but aside from that most of the names were chosen primarily for how they sounded.
Because of the very public nature of the mission, you would be invisible through all of it; the key difference being whether Varma is aware of your presence because she knows about the ghost aspect, or is unaware of that and so in the dark about you being there at all. In the latter case it would be easier to disappear again before she even arrives in the office, rather than introducing yourself and then having to dance around why you would, to her knowledge, not be coming along with on the hospital visit.
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While understandable, and I wouldn't ask you to make extra work for yourself, I was kind of hoping that the names would have had some deeper meaning to them. It would have been interesting to see how their interference in early Meso-American and Biblical territories had influenced humanity's development.
Still cool that you actually bothered to make the names have actual meaning to them, even if it doesn't have much bearing on the development of the world as a whole.
SpoopyGhost
Undead Demi Kuudere Tsundere
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- Your Haunted Attic
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- She/Her
Yeah. It is something I may come back to and flesh out more, perhaps, just as a point of interest, but the naming scheme I chose doesn't have a whole lot of direct bearing on the plot.
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Pretty much my thought on it.
- Location
- USA
[X] Hold off for now (Maybe you should wait and see if she's trustworthy; Nel did advise against telling anyone else)
mCooperative
meanderingCephalopod
- Location
- Back in Mitakihara after like 1000 years.
... we can't just say we're capable of being invisible after introducing ourself here?
ColdGoldLazarus
Contrary Quester, Spreadsheet Queen, Pink Flamingo
- Location
- Challenger Deep
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- She/Her
I think the issue with that is the next natural question becomes "why are you going invisible instead of just showing up in civilian mode like us?"
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- Somewhere!
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- She/Her
We can honestly say that our civilian mode is invisibility? Maybe play it off as part of our specialty, somehow? But it does lead to more questions after that.
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meanderingCephalopod
- Location
- Back in Mitakihara after like 1000 years.
I mean we can just say "due to personal reasons, whenever we're visible we're in magical girl mode, and it's a bit of a conspicuous bother. We're working on solutions." (Those solutions being: get some clothes to put on over our magical girl outfit.)
I dunno, it just feels like there's a way to do this.
I dunno, it just feels like there's a way to do this.
- Location
- Around here
Well, if we retain our physical features as a ghost, we can try caking ourselves in makeup and try to Invisible Man it as best as we can. That way, we're still visible even when we're not transformed. I have no idea if this would actually work, or even how feasible it would be if it worked, but it is an idea that might work if we're unable to wear civvie clothes as a magical girl.