I'd like to point out to people that teaching the great fireball jutsu is a whole coming of age thing.

Not doing it with our dad when he might not be around much longer feels wrong.
 
True to your prediction, your mother says, "that motherfucker! Fucking old goat fucker, with a goat chin, goat smelling, goat pissing, goat-tongue-speaking son of a whore!"
and successfully sent Mama on the warpath against the Hokage.
that's what you get for lying, old man.

[X]Beware of one-eyed men
+Kakashi can't be the only one who is covering an implanted dojutsu

Let's hope this warning will stick with Shisui.

[X]Decline
+A chance for one social link to go up (Suiho)
Let's do that with family only.

[]Sasuke
[X]Mama
[X]Papa
[]Grandma
[X]Shisui
[X]Naruto
 
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[X]Decline
+A chance for one social link to go up (Suiho)

[X]Beware of one-eyed men
+Kakashi can't be the only one who is covering an implanted dojutsu

[X]Mama
[X]Grandma
[X]Shisui
[X]Naruto
 
Has anybody noticed that virtually all our stats except Strength are at least C-rank which seems to be Chunin level. I really can't imagine how our six years in Academy are going to go considering we are going to be stronger then any teacher in a couple of years and stronger then all of them combined in six. Not to mention that with A-rank Intelligence and B-rank Ninja Academics we might know as much or more then them already.
 
Has anybody noticed that virtually all our stats except Strength are at least C-rank which seems to be Chunin level. I really can't imagine how our six years in Academy are going to go considering we are going to be stronger then any teacher in a couple of years and stronger then all of them combined in six. Not to mention that with A-rank Intelligence and B-rank Ninja Academics we might know as much or more then them already.
Just enjoy the gains dude. We're hitting a roadblock of massive proportions the moment the Massacre happens.
 
[X]Beware of Itachi
[X]Beware of one-eyed men

Yeah I know it's pointless to pick both. But I don't trust one eyed men or weasels

Accept/Decline

Going accept gives us two social links and that all important Fugaku link which might be useful for preventing the massacre or whatever.

On the other hand learning the coming of age technique with your dad and boosting that social link.


[X]Papa
[X]Naruto
[X]Shisui
[X]Mama
 
Itachi was an incredible genius to be sure, but nothing about him has ever indicated he had very good social skills.
And Rin does? Yes, we get along very well with our family. But only our family. First time we meet Sasuke we teased and bullied him. We know how to be respectful to the Clan Head but that doesn't mean anything social skills wise. And Naruto? Well...it's Naruto.
 
And Rin does? Yes, we get along very well with our family. But only our family. First time we meet Sasuke we teased and bullied him. We know how to be respectful to the Clan Head but that doesn't mean anything social skills wise. And Naruto? Well...it's Naruto.
Yeah, but having a high Reputation with Fugaku would let us get by with our - unknown level of Charisma, because we're apparently not tracking that in the Stats Screen. Hmmm.

Anyway, you might recall that in canon Itachi was ostracised from the Clan through first appearing to be loyal to the village over the Clan, and then due to suspicion over Shisui's death. We will presumably not face these same obstacles.
 
[X]Decline
+A chance for one social link to go up (Suiho)

[X]Beware of one-eyed men
+Kakashi can't be the only one who is covering an implanted dojutsu

[X]Mama
[X]Grandma
[X]Shisui
[X]Naruto
 
Yeah, but having a high Reputation with Fugaku would let us get by with our - unknown level of Charisma, because we're apparently not tracking that in the Stats Screen. Hmmm.

Anyway, you might recall that in canon Itachi was ostracised from the Clan through first appearing to be loyal to the village over the Clan, and then due to suspicion over Shisui's death. We will presumably not face these same obstacles.
Ya don't seem to understand. We can't change the Massacre happening. It's impossible. It will happen. Because the Uchiha won't stop planning a coup. Even if we convinced Fugaku somehow, which is bluntly speaking impossible, there'd still be the others planning it as well.

Also, don't say it's worth a try. It's impossible to try. Because we can't influence or prevent what we don't know.
 
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Ya don't seem to understand. We can't change the Massacre happening. It's impossible. It will happen. Because the Uchiha won't stop planning a coup. Even if we convinced Fugaku somehow, which is bluntly speaking impossible, there'd still be the others planning it as well.

Also, don't say it's worth a try. It's impossible to try. Because we can't influence or prevent what we don't know.
You are once again making bold statements as if they are empirical fact, as though you have evidence to back them up, when they are entirely your own opinion. Worse, you are coming across as extremely condescending while doing so. Please stop doing this.
 
You are once again making bold statements as if they are empirical fact, as though you have evidence to back them up, when they are entirely your own opinion. Worse, you are coming across as extremely condescending while doing so. Please stop doing this.
Ok. Explain to me then. How do we prevent the Massacre?
 
Ok. Explain to me then. How do we prevent the Massacre?
Pretty simple - we save Shisui. Shisui's death not only gave Danzo Kotoamatsukami to convince people to go along with his bullshit - including, I suspect, Itachi - but was also the key event that turned a few Uchiha suspicious of Itachi into the entire Clan shutting him out of their discussions, ruining the Hokage's plans to use him to spy on/manipulate the Uchiha into a peaceful resolution. As a respected prodigy of the Clan, our voice would also have disproportionate weight in calling for a peaceful resolution. Shisui also died before really being able to tell anyone about what Danzo had done except Itachi, which would have thrown the whole situation well off of the route it went in canon.

That's just one possibility. As you are taking the absolute stance that "the massacre cannot be stopped no matter what we do" the burden of proof is entirely on you to demonstrate that not only is this single route entirely impossible, but every other route like it is similarly impossible. I'm pretty sure proving the negative so conclusively is impossible to do here, which is why I'm so irritated by your claiming it to be absolute fact.

EDIT: Clan, not plan.
 
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